#c: Lora

[void-botanist]

I'm curious about Jilor 👀

Send me a ship name and get some tea!

Oho time for coming to conclusions in real time!

Jilor - Jia & Lora

(probably should have been Jilora but. oh well)

This one's interesting because Lora, Spinder's youngest adoptive sister, has existed since Old Canon and honestly had a decently large part in Spinder & Georg, and Jia I just invented because I was changing Lora's family and I didn't want to use her Old Canon husband. He's a little bit based on someone I know IRL in terms of personality (laid-back), but honestly I haven't decided on a lot about him. He is a good dad though, and I think in the future he and Lora will achieve the three kids they had in Old Canon, where they were a lot older (everyone was because weird faery aging). But being married to Lora puts him in an intriguing position: Lora is the hub of the Pastearn family, the one who kept in touch with Michael when he moved several localities afield, the only member of the family who is allowed to know where Gwin is at any given time, who keeps track of Megan's model trains and Mick's extracurriculars and Corcra's TV appearances and Spinder's flight schedules and Nieram's home improvement projects. Jia cannot remember all of this and has stopped trying. His main contribution to her family connection activities (aside from obviously going to family gatherings and stuff like that) is to make sure that there's plenty of time where he's actively spending time of their baby daughter Ayna so that Lora can be doing video calls &c. Now that I say this actually I think he does commission/contract work, so he's at home a lot of the time. Still not sure what Lora does though, aside from being everyone's favorite sibling.

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[void-botanist]

Eat too much cake at his niece's birthday party for sure. It's been an hour. Is anyone going to miss one - well maybe two - pieces of cake? And he does this like every hour lol.

Michael: is anyone gonna miss this Lora: Michael there are no more sweets. the party is over. GO HOME

[ladystoneboobs]

since affc, there's been some mystery and debate about the state of loras tyrell. did aurane waters make up all his horrible injuries for some reason, and is he actually fine? or is he already dying on dragonstone as cersei wished? a secret third thing? for my part, i think it's somewhere in between, that septa scolera's interrupted words about him indicate he's still alive and could recover, but that the account of the battle is still mostly true, with loras simply surviving despite expectations. i just cannot believe that grrm, beauty and the beast lover that he is, would resist this chance for a new play on batb by having this tyrell beauty turned into another grostesque, complete with burn scars similar to another asoiaf beast known as the hound.

When the appointed night arrived, another of the Kingsguard came for her, a man as different from Sandor Clegane as . . . well, as a flower from a dog. The sight of Ser Loras Tyrell standing on her threshold made Sansa's heart beat a little faster. -Sansa I, aSoS In the dark, I am the Knight of Flowers, he[Tyrion] had said. I could be good to you. But that was only another Lannister lie. A dog can smell a lie, you know, the Hound had told her once. She could almost hear the rough rasp of his voice. [...] She wondered what had become of Sandor Clegane. -Sansa VI, aSoS If I close my eyes I can pretend he[Sweetrobin] is the Knight of Flowers. Ser Loras had given Sansa Stark a red rose once, but he had never kissed her . . . and no Tyrell would ever kiss Alayne Stone. Pretty as she was, she had been born on the wrong side of the blanket. As the boy's lips touched her own she found herself thinking of another kiss. She could still remember how it felt, when his cruel mouth pressed down on her own. He had come to Sansa in the darkness as green fire filled the sky. He took a song and a kiss, and left me nothing but a bloody cloak. -Sansa III(/Alayne II), aFfC

that's 3 times now (a magic number) since sandor clegane left her that sansa has thought of him linked with loras tyrell, her old crush that she fantasized about kissing and the scary weirdo that her truamatized pysche has wrongly convinced her she'd actually been kissed by. sansa doesn't mean much to loras, just another silly fangirl who may or may not be a kingslayer, but as she's the pov character and he's not his importance to her and association by her with the hound could well be clues to his future fate. just as sandor (likely) survived his seemingly fatal injuries in asos to return as the gravedigger on the quiet isle, so loras can survive his injuries against the odds to come back looking more beastly, beastly like this clegane not-a-knight he'd once named the champion of the hand's tourney back in the days when sansa first saw him.

[tichelcain]

yeah i'm a part of the homos fagot guild (homosexuals for asoiaf and game of thrones)

[demongemz]

Magnus navigated the bustling crowd of the city square, the lively chatter and vibrant stalls creating a symphony of urban life. As he paused to admire a street performer's act, his gaze was drawn to someone standing nearby, equally captivated by the display. The stranger's infectious laughter made Magnus smile. He stepped closer and remarked, "It's amazing how a simple performance can brighten the day, isn't it?" @furyfms

[randomrichards]

MIGHTY JOE YOUNG:

Girl raises an ape

Who repeats King Kong problems

Thanks to stupid drunks

[oathtorn]

🕸️ minthara first impression of the wood elf go -

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"As a general rule, I prefer a wizard over a druid. In terms of usefulness, at least. The druid's commitment to their own community makes them unreliable allies. The wizard, on the other hand, is committed only to himself. While still not ideal, they can be kept on a short leash to prevent them from blowing themselves up. Just give them something to be entertained with — and some other target to blow up."

"I do not object to his pursuit of the arcane arts. He has talent, and ambition. And he is too delicate a man to survive in the front lines. But I'd rather he keeps his most hazardous experiments far from my tent."

[thegreenrealmm]

it's actually fortunate for the captain of the huntress that humfrey didn't hear him call his sister lynesse a whore, he'd have killed him on the spot.

[wvrlock]

loras @ fal: why did chloras call you babygirl? :l

"Why does he do most things? Who even knows. I assume he's just eccentric like that. Frankly, I would not dare trying to scrutinize the inner workings of the mind of that self-proclamed genius."

"...but did that make you jealous?"

[ladystoneboobs]

ya ever think about how the lannister sibs all have big secrets kept from each other, like huge life-altering experiences? jaime's is the most obvious, the most talked-about, with the full story of his kingslaying and everything he endured from aerys leading up to it. it's clear enough to me that brienne was the first he opened up to about that, including either sibling. they never asked, but unlike ned stark and the rest deriding him as kingslayer, their lack of curiosity is no offense in itself bc as tywin's other children they would never judge him for turning his cloak purely out of family loyalty. ned's assumption of jaime's motives is directly tied to his judgment of jaime, but it's the judgment that rankles jaime so. choosing your father's life over a king's is hardly the worst crime in itself. how can he explain all the other reasons without prompting when its not just about his crime but all his trauma too? is there any basis for that in his relationship with cersei, who always relied on him for comfort and consolation but seems less adept at providing the same to him? or even with tyrion, his only real male friend for years, but also his baby brother, the one he was meant to protect and take care of, who was only 10 at the time of the kingslaying? even to fully share all with tyrion years later, both adults, could be something of a role reversal, forever shattering tyrion's image of him as the strong invulnerable golden big brother by revealing his own broken inner child. jaime can't break out from those sibling roles and patterns, so neither can ever understand that part of him, never knowing the early life he had at court without either of them with him.

and tyrion, who trusted jaime more than anyone in the world before learning the truth about tysha, still could not confide in him freely even when all that trust was still intact. jaime must have heard some story of what tywin did to tysha to feel the need to confess his lie, but he def didn't hear it straight from tyrion bc imo there's no way he could still think confessing would help anything if he understood how scarred tyrion was by what he witnessed and esp not knowing that tywin ordered him to participate at the end. tyrion could reveal all that to bronn when they barely knew each other but not to his beloved brother, his first and best friend. how can the most abused child explain all his unknown abuse to the golden child, the big brother meant to protect him who couldn't always do so? how does he even begin to reveal the deepest trauma that happened to him when jaime wasn't in the room, esp when the story does start with jaime apparently trying to help him by fixing him up with tysha?

and then there's cersei and all her secrets. she always turned to jaime for consolation, or at least when he knew she needed it, but how many times did he not know? how personally could she confide in him as they grew older and their paths diverged? we know the first big secret was maggy the frog's prophecy, her first big scare, which came on the cusp of puberty, an experience she couldn't share with her twin bc he would prob just laugh and make a joke of it. in their first real scene together, in bran's pov, he mocks lysa's motherly fears and likens her to cersei. ("I think birthing does something to your minds. You are all mad." He laughed.) then he makes light of her marital discord, ("And whose fault is that, sweet sister?"), having no idea of the depth of pain she'd suffered from robert, beyond his infidelities. he later blames her for being robert's queen, not his, only thinking of how she managed to arrange his kg post, that power to forever tie him to her in secret, never grasping her lack of control in marriage, that "a queen is only a woman after all". in her pride it was hard to reveal all she'd suffered as a woman, but she also couldn't rely on jaime's response if he knew of her abuse, knowing he would kill robert and get himself killed too, only making her and their children's lives more precarious. she couldn't trust him to listen about securing the throne before dealing with robert or that as robert's victim it was her right to decide such matters, to choose his fate, not jaime's place to avenge her without her say-so first. all bc they were both too stuck in their idea of jaime as her sword, nothing more, with jaime determined to protect her and tyrion, always a bodyguard before he ever donned a white cloak.

something something tywin did his best to play his children off each other and the most effective thing he did to divide them was by setting jaime up as the golden child and family protector. the designated lannister sword only pointing at threats outside their house. a knight serving his family whose protection was always limited, who could never protect them from the person who first hurt cersei and tyrion and made them who they were at a distance from him, bc ofc he couldn't fight his own father, much less slay him with a sword.

something something maybe the reason that joff+marg+loras was a surer recipe for kingslayer stew than robert+cersei+jaime is all down to that tyrell lack of abusive structure. not that loras cared more about marg, was more willing to kill for her than jaime was to kill robert, but that there wasn't a chance of marg hiding her misery from him if/when her husband abused her in their shared household. it's not like he understood her to the point of mind-reading but when their previous royal marital household involved her bearding for his boyfriend then they prob had a pretty good basis of open communication. in that sense, the lannicest twins with all their sexual and physical intimacy still had less emotional intimacy than the tyrell queen and her kg brother.

[silvcrignis]

Loras Gold, one of the STRAIGHTEST of Keira’s kids sometimes wears her dresses & I think that’s great. He also returns them actually how he got them because she’s scary & he shan’t cross his mum. She’s sacred.

[warriorfavoured]

[jeyneofpoole]

acok dash simulator

🐺 winterscumming

i’m sorry but the lannisters licherally can’t expect us to just ignore what they did to our liege lord lmao???? sitting up there on that jank throne like i won’t answer the summons as soon as lord starks’ kid calls the banners goddddds the blonde hair makes those cunts stupid. also the incest probably. what is the north known for again??? forgetting??? that’s what i thought…….

🦁 gains-of-castamere

typical northern scum lmao. bring up the ‘incest’ allegations all you want but nobody’s ever allowed to mention stark’s actual bastard as if it’s just, like, fine????? we’ll see who’s laughing when king joffrey seizes your lands and holdfasts ig

🧜‍♂️ womanderly

cersei lannister isn’t gonna fuck you bro

⛓️ iron-pryce

you will never fucking guess what i saw lady asha and lord greyjoy’s other kid doing on the docks today ohhhhhhhh my god

🍑 rainbowhard

LORAS TYRELL BESTED BY A WENCH THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY OF MY LIFEEEEE

🦄 renlybrocade

she should’ve killed him the realm can afford to lose one twink

❤️‍🔥 rhollor-wifee

the comet is a sign of his coming

🦊 flor-aunt-it

me and the comet are making out sloppy style

❤️‍🔥 rhollor-wifee

you will burn

⬛️ dontcallmecrow

not my ass going on the great ranging lmao i should’ve deserted 🙏😭

🐻 lordcommandr

Report to command tent. Immediately.

⬛️ dontcallmecrow

oh my god

🛶 c-bitch

they really expect me to follow this metrosexual into battle. ok. gold price looking nepo baby cunt he fucking shot todric and i’m just supposed to steal a castle with him. ok!!!!!! i miss asha……..

🩸 reek

heyyyyyyy i’m in the dungeon fornormal reasons does someone wannacome say hi?

🦑 princee-of-winterfell

ok lol

🐉 that-one-loyalist

i swear to fucking god i just saw daenerys targaryen burn down the house of the undying????? queen???? hello???

🐴 in-the-whoarde

likely place for her to be

⚓️ sonsshine

i love my dad i love boats this is great we’re going to blackwater next i’m sure our victory will be righteous in the eyes of our lord

⚓️ sonsshine

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[ruleof3bobby]

THOSE WHO WISH ME DEAD (2021) Grade: C-

1st, terrible title. 2nd, script was all over the map. Had some solid bones with the plot points but kinda felt like two different scripts smashed into one.

[demongemz]

Jaime wasn’t sure who he’d find in this world after all things were so different yet he’d be able to slowly make the adjustments to be able to adapt to this new place and the advancements that this world offered. He’d had a moment before his next appointment as he started working out throwing a few test punches against the bag training his newest addition to be more like the hand that he’d lost instead of just a machine now attached to him. “I’m sorry, were you planning on using equipment? I saw it was open and thought I’d waste a little time between my appointments” he mused when he noticed the other. @furyfms

[chickren]

Which in-universe character do you think have an idea about Jaime’s feelings towards Brienne? It’s a bit interesting that this hasn’t come up yet in the books, given how quickly the threesome rumor and Jaime Catelyn and Brienne is circulating in-universe haha. I think Qyburn definitely suspects since he referred to Brienne as “your Maid of Tarth” to Jaime. Red Ronnet probably suspects something after the punch. I sort of wondered if Loras had any suspicion given how much Jaime spoke in defense of Brienne. Anyone else you could think of, and do you think this rumor would show up in the books?

We don’t talk a lot about how far spread Brienne and Jaime’s story is in-universe, but we should, so I’m gonna hijack this ask for a sec and do that.

These dummies are already legendary before we get to the good stuff. Obviously, kingslayer Jaime is (in)famous already—not going to go into the depth and breadth of his fame. But Renly(king)slayer Brienne is pretty infamous herself by Storm. The Renly story is apparently one of the first things Cleos tells Jaime about her. Then Loras very publicly confronts Brienne in King’s Landing about Renly’s death, so Jaime has her arrested (ostensibly on a murder charge.) This is before we get to Feast and find out even hedge knights have heard of Brienne’s supposed Renlyslaying.

More interesting than their individual infamy, however, is Jaime and Brienne’s new joint lore. Roose implies Brienne is even more infamous as a traitor to a second king for being part of the plot to free Jaime. We also get wind in Storm that the threesome rumors have spread far and wide in the Riverlands. But it is not until we get to Feast that we realize that the Bear Pit™ incident has also gone viral. Red Ronnet knows about the bear pit, and while at Harrenhal goes to see the pit itself specifically because of what he’s heard about the story. Then, of course, there is the fact that Jaime is believed to have simply run off somewhere with Brienne—which is an absolutely salacious final detail.

Considering the quasi-medieval world of ASoIaF and the amount of pretty important earth-shattering news about Westeros falling apart around their ears, it’s sort of hilarious that people find time to gossip enough about Jaime and Brienne’s story that word of it has traveled so far so fast.

But back to your question, as I feel you imply, it wouldn’t be difficult for people to believe Brienne fell in love with Jaime, but who might be in a position to suspect Jaime’s feelings for her?

It’s clear that the bear pit story is not enough to make people think Jaime has feelings for Brienne. Otherwise, Ronnet wouldn’t have been dumb enough to run his mouth in front of Jaime. However, one must wonder if people generally have started to suspect he has feelings after he leaves Pennytree with her in Dance. He saves her, then runs off with her? Sounds romantic.

Qyburn, as you mentioned, has spent time around the two of them. It’s possible he picked up a vibe. Beyond that, he’s witness to Jaime’s mini-freakout after he finds out what Vargo intends to do with Brienne, then he’s witness to his massive freakout after the weirwoood dream. However, Qyburn also spent the whole journey from Harrenhal to King’s Landing with them, and to hear Jaime tell it, he and Brienne were not at the top of their relationship game during this portion of their trip. So that might cool any suspicions Qyburn has about them. The only thing that could strongly counteract that is the fact that Qyburn knows Cersei sent the old “I love you” x3 letter to Jaime, which Jaime then ignored in favor of running off with Brienne.

Ronnet? I mean. If someone else had seen all that, they’d understand Jaime has serious feelings for her. But Ronnet’s emotional intelligence seems low. Obviously, he knows Jaime feels some sort of attachment to Brienne. I would question if he understands it’s romantic.

Loras is a self-centered heartbroken teenage superstar who is either embroiled in some elaborate conspiracy pretending to be injured at Dragonstone, or was actually gravely injured at Dragonstone, and his beloved sister has just been arrested for a capital offense. Even if he marginally had a whiff of suspicion about Jaime and Brienne, he’s not making room in his mind to contemplate anyone else’s love life. So no, I don’t think Loras knows.

If there’s a wildcard person who could possibly be in a position to have heard something incriminating from Jaime himself, I’d say it would be Ilyn Payne. Chatterbox Jaime’s been using the guy like a confessional box, so it’s within the realm of feasibility that George could create a scene in Winds where Ilyn Payne raises his eyebrows at the mention of Brienne in a way that would indicate to readers that he knows something. I think it’s unlikely, but it is floating in the ether of technical possibility. (Or lol, it might get a mention in the event of an Ilyn prologue pov.)

So, to answer your question, from the precise moment where we leave them in Dance, I don’t think there is a single person who could definitively raise their hand and go, “Oh, btw? Jaime’s in love with that lady.” This is likely to change fast in Winds, especially if someone like Hyle is witness to their interactions.

The circumstantial evidence for their relationship by the end of Dance, though? lmao. Damning. The blind items? Flying. The top comment: he’s hitting that.

tl;dr - Between the rampant threesome rumors, the viral bear pit story, and the tale of Jaime running off with Brienne, the general public is probably more suspicious of Jaime’s feelings for Brienne than the man himself.