#code of honor

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Star Trek: The Next Generation "Code of Honor"

[gettheorion]

Be sure to check your children's candy. I found the Star Trek The Next Generation Season 1, Episode 4 episode "Code of Honor" in ours.

[slashdementia7734]

[federationgothic]

The guest chairs were added between Code of Honor and The Last Outpost. There will be several iterations of these.

[seventhofcrows]

Who here Alaning their Gratz right now?

[vertigoartgore]

A badass Doctor Doom (with a freakin' flaming sword) by artist Steve Rude.

[thealienisacarpet]

oh so season 1 of tng is BAD

[piinkmoooon]

I’m on my second watch of TNG, and I’ve just finished watching Code of Honour, I guess my brain couldn’t handle the amount of cringe in this episode so it got completely erased from my memory because I don’t remember this episode from my first watch! I’m amazed at their ability to cram racism, sexism, and orientalism into 45 minutes of terrible plot.

[burgendee69]

season 4- code of honor

Kolivan leaving Keith behind makes literally no sense because he himself acknowledges that Voltron has tipped the scales to the Blade's side and that they had to stick to small scale infiltrations or be wiped out completely before Voltron came along. In this case, why on earth would he allow the Black Paladin, which is a position they only recently filled, TO BE LEFT BEHIND??? Not to mention that the team is already off balance with their new roles and that Kolivan himself felt the difference in strength in ep 1 of season three. The decision seems so strategically dumb and makes Kolivan, the leader of an infiltration organiser look like an absolute idiot.

If you exclude Kolivan leaving Keith to die and instead replace it with Regis sacrificing himself to make sure Keith got back (the pragmatic and even more tragic decision...maybe even deathbed dialogue iykyk), we can have the same build up of pressure and the same survivor's guilt without the idiotic implications.

[jormofyore]

Codes of Honour and How They Are BS

Screw it, I’m going to talk about codes of honour in Pathfinder and D&D, and the intrinsic problem with them all.

            For those who are curious as my background, I’m an English major who has taken some medieval studies classes, and I loved them all. I often get into arguments with a “certain friend” who is often, what feels like, frequently up in arms about alignment and codes of honour. He’s particularly against how Paizo got rid of alignment. This time I’ll be talking about how we look at codes of honour in some of our favourite TTRPG’s and how they are all bullshit.

            See, the initial problem with Paladin’s and other classes with codes, is that we have this idea of what chivalry constitutes. But people are mostly wrong about the when of them. The code of chivalry, as it’s often applied in classic Western TTRPGs, goes back to around the 12th and 13th centuries Europe. That part isn’t controversial. The problem is that the only real written code we properly know of dates to 1884 from a French historian named Leon Gautier who read too many medieval romance novels and epics. This is kind of like how the code of Bushido is sort of 11th century, but also 19th century kind of recent. Point being, these codes we have are far, far more romanticized than what they originally were, and what we see them as now is likely not what they were when originally formulated. It’s not just a case of history being written by the victors in the case of Central and South American histories (I can’t/won’t speak of African codes of honour because that’s a huge weakness in my education.) In fact, we have no written records of the actual Code’s of Chivalry and its predecessors, we only have Gautier’s fanfiction. Arguably, these codes date somewhere into Ancient Rome, but that’s a little fuzzier and based on Roman storytelling as opposed to non-romanticized record keeping.

            This leads into the second problem. Whose code of honour are we using in TTRPG-land? These European codes of honour are abstract and what we know of are only from, again, poems and epics and modern revisionisms. Cultures from all over the world had codes of honour, and I guess, sure, you can default to European codes of honour for your western-themed game, but that means you’ve fallen into the idea of thinking Europe had one code of honour. Guess you fell for my trap card. Here’s the thing, there are, at the very least in Europe, 5 main codes of chivalry in Europe. I stress “at least.” Loosely, there are the ones from what we know now as the Germanic Tribes, the Frankish Tribes, the British and Welsh, the Italians, and the Saracens. We know of 3 official ones in some random dude’s poem Ordene de chevalerie, and even then, it’s mostly romanticized ideals from the crusades, which, last I checked, wasn’t where a lot of honour was happening. “So Jorm,” you argue, “Then we’ll use the British one because we all speak English in America, right?” Oh yeah, did you know the British one, from what we can gather, either condoned or endorsed slavery, whereas the other European codes explicitly did not? Doesn’t sound much like what a Paladin does, does it? Last I checked everything we come across in TTRPG’s is that Paladins hate tyrants and slavery, so have fun with this argument in the future.

            So, this is where I like Paizo’s approach with trying to distance themselves from Christianity and it’s influences in our game worlds. They simply got rid of alignment and the silly line “Act with honour” by instead detailing what rules every deity has (Edicts and Anathema, if you’re curious), and a list for what each kind of Champion stands for. Bang. Done. It’s quite a simple and elegant solution to get past these arguments while also getting rid of that abstract code of honour BS. Sure it’s “More rules”, but honestly, it reduces the number of arguments and lets you get into the meat of gaming.

            Anywho, while I would like to continue my rant on this topic, it’s after 3AM and I’ve got a game of Civilization 6 to finish before I sleep.

Jorm of Yore out

[trekkingthroughtrek]

TNG Watchthrough: Code of Honor

So. Code of Honor. Yeah. People smarter than me have made many intelligent points about the racism here, and I’m not sure I have much personally to add on that point. I will say that these first few episodes are much closer in tone and style to tos than I generally think of when I compare the two series in my mind. Obviously the previous episode has a direct mapping to a tos episode, and this episode has racial and gender politics closer to what I expect form Kirk’s era than Picard’s. It’s interesting to think about from the perspective of how tng’s starting point is a sequel/remake of a then twenty year old show, and it will be fun to watch it grow and mature into it’s own thing.

They are shocked by a lady fighter! Gasp! Aren’t we so enlightened that we don’t think like that anymore 🙄

You remind us of the Chinese so we’re giving you a Chinese horse!

So, like, I appreciate that we’re inviting Wesley to the bridge as a sign of Picard softening towards him and becoming more comfortable and whatnot, but like, is during this emergency where one of your crew had been kidnapped really the time for inviting the kid for a field trip?

I like the callback to Riker not wanting the captain on away missions, and that they’re actually talking about why it makes sense in this case.

I’m not sure why Troi feels like she needs to out Tasha for thinking Lutan’s hot here. Like, dude. There’s no evidence Tasha’s making bad choices, let her keep her fantasies to herself. Picard certainly doesn’t need to know.

The choreography of this fight scene leaves something to be desired I think. Tasha is supposed to be a good fighter. And the wife is also supposed to be trained in this. But the wonky setup makes it hard for them to appear skilled even in the suspension of disbelief stage fighting way we get from Tasha earlier in the episode.

Sorry Lutan, sucks to be you I guess.

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Star Trek: The Next Generation "Code of Honor"

[anewstartrekfan]

Code of honor is some of the worst tv I’ve ever seen but I will say Tasha Yar is growing on me. I’m bummed she won’t last past this season.

[slashdementia7734]

[federationgothic]

More early cargo bay set dissection:

a very miminalist door to enter the cargo bay, we haven't bought more holodeck doors yet to put in its place:

The hallway behind the door is also not linked to the rest of the hallway sets and is clearly lacking details, depth, carpets.....

(it's used again in The Big Goobdye, possibly others but The Big Goodbye is the one I remember clearly)

It has a carpet, but still very bad.

Finally, the transporter pad? target mat? This thing is a kid's cutout project in grade school:

at leas the cargo bay door looks nice. That's where the money went.

[filmjunky-99]

s t a r t r e k t h e n e x t g e n e r a t i o n created by gene roddenberry Yareena of Ligon II [code of honor, s1ep4]

'Every hospitality will be accorded you.' - yareena [to picard]