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#comparing what happened with Cass in season 11 with what happened to Sam in hell was a choice
veeva-i0i · 8 months
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Sam's a better person than I will ever be, because if Cass would have said that 'lucifer used him too' after the kind of trauma Sam went through with Lucifer I would actually flip.
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spn-4-ever · 5 years
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About Destiel Canon..
After watching Supernatural 15 /9 and the last episode, I have some new ideas about the future of Destiel within the last 10 episodes. First, writers give us very exact and open Destiel moments and lines. If they don't have any intentions to make it Canon, there was no necessity to put such subtexts or parallels in the last season. These Destiel scenes are given on purpose. I am 100% sure that there will be some sort of Canon. But the main point is that Dean is such a tough guy, and he is speechless when it comes to his emotions or feelings, and he is not the man of words. On the other hand, Jensen is not a Destiel fan, either. So, I don't believe we will hear 'I love you' from Dean's mouth directly. But how will it happen? Of course, Sam will make it Canon. How? Lemme explain.
The deal with Empty wasn't meaningless at all, that deal was made to make Destiel canon. It is to clear that when Dean hears about the deal, he will lose his conscious again,like he always does. Then Sam will be open in his words like he was in the last night episode. For example,
SAM: "Dean, have you ever thought why an angel, an immortal celestial being, the strong and respectful soldier of Heaven rebelled, left the his home , became fallen, killed his brothers, and started to live with humans like a simple man? Why did Cass do all of them? He was always with us, he never thought twice to sacrifice himself for us and for the people who are important for us. He did all of them after rescuing you from the Hell. Why did he change, why couldn't he leave us? What made him stay with us? He chose to stay with us no matter what happened. Call him your brother, or best friend, but he is immortal and he has lived for thousands of years with his angel brothers, he has fought with them, do you really think you could become much closer friend or brother of him within 11 years compared to thousands of years? He has lost almost everything on us, the reason under that cannot be simple at all. What is it called in your world I don't know, but I know what is that in my world.
What about you, Dean? Every time when we lose Cass, or when there is problem about him, you just give up, you lose your hope, when he dies and you burned him, you weren't the same guy who raised me, but after his returning you turned back to your normal life. We have lost many people we care about, but you have never given up like that. I know those feelings, because I have experienced them when I lost Jess. Be honest with you, and talk about your feelings before it is too late. "
I think we will see Destiel canonically only in this way and honestly it is enough for me.
After Sam's speech, I don't think it is high possibility to hear ' I love you', but some sort of confessions are possible by Dean.
I have faith on Destiel anymore.
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ain-t-bovvered · 6 years
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14x12 Commentary (europe edition)
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Special episode where a bunch of tired and caffeinated Europeans ( plus a sleepy American) scream together, and then die and try to get on with their day ( lol AS IF)
Hello and welcome:
@purpleskiesandcherrypies  (Nat)
@dean-winchesters-bacon  (Kat)
@waywardbaby  (Zeta)
@ain-t-bovvered  (Giul)
1 2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11
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Giu: Oh donatello
Zeta : What a flashback
Nat: ugh... so sick of nick already
Giul: Whatever it takes oh yes cas is gonna do something stupid ?
Nat: "Not even an Archangel"
Giul: Dean doesn’t joke too in terms of stupid decisions.
Nat: Stop it Dean
Zeta : My heart will go on, I’m sorry
Giul: Well that’s creepy
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Nat: NO
Zeta: Ohhh fuck
Giul: I’m crying
Nat: Baby NOOO NOOOO Fuck
Zeta : Test drive
Kat :  the hand porn though
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Giul: That’s fucking terrifying
Zeta : True
Giu: Dean’s face will hunt me forever now. Jensen JFC .
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Zeta : Fuck
Nat: Shit
Giu: Dont
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Kat : I cried during this
Giu: I am crying
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Giu: Hell’s flashbacks tho
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I’m hating myself now.
[Dean pounding on the metal ]  : No. No!. Sam SAM!
-Up I’m having serious parallels with when he woke up in the coffin after hell.But this time he can’t get out. NICE
- Look at his hands trembling. CAN YALL NOT
[Cell’s lights goes off] the box is dark now. 
NO I HATE THIS ALREADY.
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-Oh thank god. 
Zeta : Sam is naked
Kat : They both are
Giu: OH FUCK
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Nat: Shit
- D:” Just a bad dream, it’s fine. I’m ok”
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Zeta : Never said I wasn’t scared
Giu: fucking hell
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- D: "Never said I wasn't scared.But it doesn’t matter”
Nat: Fuck you
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- S:” But what you are talking about is far worse than death. Michael is an archangel, he could literally keep you buried in a coffin, alive, forever.
Giu: Told ya
Kat : Hate this
Giu: That Henley. I love how it rest on Jensen’s hips. distracting.
Kat : Single layer porn!
Nat: I'm not ok .Do I have to keep watching? Ugh
Kat : YES
Giu: the fuck is happening
Zeta : What now?
Giu: They really want to play with this water and drowning bullshit
- Also this episode is already aesthetically pleasing . and that I appreciate .
Kat: They play with so many parallels this week
Kat : It’s like a Criminal Minds episode
Giul: I’m so loving this
Nat: who is he
Giul: Fucker of the week
Kat : UGH NICK GO AWAY
Zeta: Busy bee
Nat: None of that was my fault
Giul: He’s a serial killer so go off i guess
Giul: Yeah well the devil left the rest is all you bitch
Kat : I like the cop lol
- Nick is so empty right now. He’s the most dangerous human honestly.
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Giul: Goddammit mark. 
Nat: The TALK
- D:”You’re gonna see it through to the end”
Giul: Shut up
Zeta : Mom hates this
Giul: WE HATE THIS
Zeta: Yeah right
- S:” And Cas and Jack, you haven’t even told them”
- D:” Well that’s because I’m not good with the whole big goodbyes, all right? I don’t need to get shaky on this”
Giul: and HE DIDN T TOLD THEM . HOW DARE
Nat: Can I smack Dean over the head?
Nat: Am I allowed to?
Kat: ITS DEAN OF COURSE HE DIDN’T
-D:” Just put the end of this trip out of your head, okay?”
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Giul: MY BABE
- C:” Where you able to talk him out of it?”
 S:”No so I’m counting on you”
Giul: LOL SAM TOLD HIM
Nat: Awwww Cas knows tho
Giul: good sam
- He asked Rowena’s help too AAAAAH
Nat: of course he would
Giul: WE KNEW
Zeta: Remarkable command of profanity
Nat: LOL Cas about Rowena
Giul: “ Maybe if I spoke with Dean"BAAAABE
- S:”If we don’t find some way...Dean’s gone”
You have to step on my dead cold body first tho
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Nat: Dean washed his hands tho 
Nat: at least
Kat : He’s a clean freak
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Giul: Well remember how he barely touches the public phone booths?
-tHIS EPISODE IS BEAUTIFUL
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Kat: This dude is so whacked out
Giul: This is a criminal minds ep. WHEELS UP, where is Rossi when we need him?
Nat: I'm sick of this dude already
Giul: Finally some gore
Kat: BABY
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- D:” Do ever think about when we were kids? I know I wasn’t the greatest brother to you”
Giul: DUDE DON’T 
Zeta: Regrets
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- S:” Dean , you were the one who was always there for me. The only one. You practically raised me”
Giul: U MY DA
Kat: DUDE IMMA CRY AGAIN
Nat: Sammy, stop
Giul: FUCK
Nat: SAMMEEHHHH STOP
Nat: SHIT STOP IT GUYS
Giul: oh this is for the 300 mood
Kat:  I think so too
- D:” Things got dicey. You know with Dad, the way he was. I didn’t always look out for you the way I should’ve”
- lol Sam doesn’t want to hear this shit
- D:” I mean, I had my own stuff, you know. In order to keep peace I probably looked like I took his side quite a bit. Sometimes when I was away, you know it wasn't because I just ran out, right? Dad would , he would send me away when I really pissed him off. I think you knew that”
Nat:  I fucking cry
Kat: JOHN YOU FUCKER
- S: “ Man, I left that behind a long time ago, I had to-”
- Look you can pin point the exact moment the eyes starts to get watery...damn it Jared.
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- S:” And if we are gonna get through this, I have to do , like you said and try and keep my mind off of where we’re going. So if we could not have conversations that sound like deadbeat apologies, I would really appreciate it”
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Giul: YES. THANK YOU SAM.
Zeta: Yeah ok  I’m hating this
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Nat: Fuck, I'm not ok. 
Nat: I like the cop
Giul: BITCH DONT
Kat : Told you Ain’t God he’s praying to
Nat: DIGNITY hahahhaha
Zeta: Yep
Nat: FUck
Giul: WELL THAT’s
Zeta: That was so predictable
Nat: Nick's a fucking lsdhfishgoiewahgpieshgäahgeisladhflidshglidsea
Kat : Can he die already? I shouldn't smash my work computers keyboard that hard, probably
Giul: Hey gotta hand it to the guy tho, he’s pretty resourceful
- Sam finding a case. I’m not even surprised.
Zeta: The Winchester boys
Nat: ONE LAST CASE FOR THE WINCHESTER BOYS fuck you
- S:” You had to go there”
Kat: Damn it
Zeta: Enochian
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Zeta: FBI
Giul: YAS
Nat: I'd open up that door so fast tho
Nat: and get on my knees
Kat: Control yourself woman
Nat: You know who you're talking to, right?
( that sentence is knitted in the back of our watch biker gang jackets)
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Kat : THE COATS
Giul: FBI FBI FBI FBI
Giul: dean sitting so cutely
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Zeta: I’m sorry.Has anybody noticed how huge their feet are?? 
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Giul: licking lips
Nat: Dean's such a smol bean next to Sam.
Kat: Dean looks so tiny.GET OUT OF MY HEAD
- This all conversation with the twin is a real guilty trip for Dean. 
- Also this confirms that Dean and Sam knows some enochian. And that’s sexy.
Talk enochian to me * trumpet sounds*
Giul: CASTIEL MY BABE
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Zeta: Angel on call
Nat: Awww Cas smiles
- C:” Dean” “ [BIG FUCKING SMILE] “Is so good to hear from you”
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Giul: WOW he’s so- GODDAMMIT
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- [stammering] : ok...well ..good. Ah [clear throat] listen , Cass....
- C:” You are working a case? That Is So GoOd tO hEaR. So I assume that means you’re not going to go through with it. Because I have to say, Dean , this plans of yours, it was born of, of desperation , not reason”
Kat: BUSTED
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Giul: WE KNOW
- C:” I-I know that I’m not supposed to know , what I know,  but”
- D:”  "Look I'm fine with my plan"
Nat: LIAAAR
-C:” NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION”
Zeta: It’s good to hear your voice
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Giul: MARRIED
Zeta: I love you
- D:” Really?”  S: “ Dean, it’s your husband  Cass I had to tell him”
Giul: lol can we remember that Cas fucked up Donatello for them?
Nat: How he leans against Baby tho I caught myself staring at his crotch. oops
Zeta: Well....
Giul: Aaaaand flannel again
Giul: Shocking
Nat: SURPRISE It's funnier in Enochian I guess
- ALSO hell yeah for Dean being the smarty pants ! I live for these moments. We all know Sam is the main  brain , but seeing the writers giving us these brilliant Dean moments is life.
Giul: He cray. This is so creepy amazing. Finally some spn old style
Kat: I know, they finally have a proper almost scary ep again
Nat: Yes. I still remember how creepy sometimes Season 1 was. oh they're here to save the day
Zeta: The Winchester boys
Giul: MOOSE IS ANGRY . SQUIRREL TOO
Zeta: Bamf much?! The hiss
Nat: Dean, control your anger!
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Giul: H. O. T
- Poor guy tho, it’s not his fault .
Kat: Love snarly boys!
Giul: WELL FUCK
Zeta: Baby’s ass! I’m sorry again
Giul:  We end the ninja turtle
Giul: UUUUUUGH
Kat: Ugh this bitch again
-Vintage Nick
Nat: I wanna skip Nick. Can I skip Nick?
Giul: NO Mark acting is gold
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Kat I hate this whole scene
Nat: He's too good and I hate him
Giul: Wait Why is No NO , fuck no. WHAT
- The fucking ice .... 
- N: “Lucifer....?”
 Sarah : 
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Kat: ITS DUMB AF
Kat: I HATE THIS SCENE
Nat: SPN makes me question so many things
Giu: FUCK MARK OK
Nat: TELL HIM. I LIKE HER
Zeta: She kinda hates him
Kat: BUT SHE DOESN’T DO ANYTHING.SHE SHOULD BE THROWING HIM AGAINST WALLS AND SHIT
Giul: Let her leave bro
Nat: NICK LISTEN TO YOUR DAMN DEAD WIFE
- N: “ I can’t”
Kat: Nope he’s gonna be a little bitch
Giul: Oh I’m sorry he’s like a Stockholm victim.
Nat: "I'm sorry." Is he really tho?
- N:”Wherever is darkest”
Kat: Melodramatic much Nick?
Nat: DR CAS
- DR NOVAK
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Zeta: Oh hello
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Giul: THE OTHER Mr Winchester.  
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Giul: OOH OOH HOT
Nat: Dean's smirking
Giu: DOCTOR
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Zeta: Giuls, u ok??
Giul: I . AM.  NOT.  EARSKYHGZLYCBTSGKBP FUCK ME
- Doctor: follow me.
 Sam scrambling the fuck away from the sexual tension
Dean eyes on Cass [starts the sexual tension]
me [bathing in sexual tension]
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Nat: THE HAIR ON CAS THO
- C:” It was necessary, doesn’t mean I don’t regret it. Doesn’t mean I don’t wish there could've been another way”
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- C: 
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- “Please don’t compare this with your suicidal plan. Just stop it”
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[ tilting head in angry ]
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Zeta: Tell him Cas
- D:” Why don’t we talk about that later”
Nat: "according to your plan, there won't be a later." I love Cas
Giul: YES
Kat: THE SASS
Giul: CAS BABE
- D:” You think this is easy on me?”
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-Why does it always look like Cas is on the verge of tears and they never fucking show us the real deal 
- C:” So then, this is goodbye?”
Zeta:He’s hurting
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- ThE FuCK Is tHaT LoOk DeAN
Nat: "Guys.. stop bickering." Is what Sam should have said. lol
lol and Cas holding Dean’s gaze a bit before focusing on Sam. Good moment
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- D:” I thought he was too far gone”
 C: “Dean if there is a spark of hope. then I have to try “
- Damn these writers are not being subtle.
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-C: “ YOU taught me that”
Giul: GUYS I CAN T
Zeta: *pats your back *
Nat&Kat:"Get out."
Giul: when castiel get so riled up I get all tingly.YES ORDER ME AROUND
Zeta: @Giul control yourself woman
Giu: PSH HAVE U SEEN THIS...[gestures vaguely] HOW
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- Sam not being subtle too
Nat: Sam's throwing shades
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Kat: THE DIMPLES OF DISCONTENT
-I will never get tired of Cas glowly hand
Giul: ANGEL EYES YAAAASP
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Kat: Okay dude would be choking on that tube
Giul: CAN I WAKE UP LIKE THAT TOO
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Nat: I wanna wake up being surrounded by three hot boys
Giul: [clicks tongue]
Kat: With three handsome men? Yes please
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- yeah ok you can’t fucking say that and look up  at Castiel, Dean..you motherfucker 
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- C:” Would do like more grape jello?” [voice deepest than Dean’s closet]
Giul: WHAT WAS THAT VOICE CAS i felt it in my [censored] 
Kat: Donatello and his chicken
- Those two whispering like that .... fuck you
Nat: THE dimples
- Castiel’s little awkward smile 
- This episode is so beautifully shot I can’t
Kat: I need a gif of them legs @Giulia please ma’am
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Giul&Zeta: NO REST FOR THE SELF DESTRUCTIVE.
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- D: “We are going out on a high”
i wanna slap him....hard
- D: “ Sorry”
 S: “sOrRY “ *chuckles*
- Sam is not drinking beer, he’s drinking hot salty tea.
Nat: Sam's really at it, huh? Trying to guilt trip Dean out of it
Giul: i don’t blame him
Nat: Can't be mad at him, tho
- S:” I have to throw away everything we stand for” aaaaand the voice cracks....good....great...
Zeta: He’s soooooo angry
Kat: Sam’s hair is so fluffy
Nat: LISTEN TO SAMMY DEAN
-S.” You just don’t check out of it “ * snarls and pushed Dean*
Dean is offended of the push.
Bitch you don’t get to be offended
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- S: “ if you quit us today, there won’t be a tomorrow. What are you doing now it’s wrong,it’s QUITTING”
Giul: SAM MAD DESPERATE VOICE IS GOOD
Nat: I believe in us, Dean
-Dean doesn’t respond.
- Sam:
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- Sam is all of us
Zeta: Smack him
-[Enters desperate hug]
Nat: fuck, now i'm crying
Giul: sobs
Nat: fuck no shit
Giul: OH COME ON
Kat: THIS HUG
- [strained voice] S: “why don’t you believe in us too?”
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Giul: It’s too early for this.
-Sam looks like a kid here , a scared sad kid and I CAN’T DEAL WITH IT 
Kat: SAM HOLDS ON SO TIGHT
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- D:”Okay Sam”
 Sam sniffs
 D: “Let’s go home”
Nat: I need a cigarette and lots of wine
Giul: MOOD
Zeta: This fucking hurts so bad
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Nat: Why you gotta make me cry tho
Giul: GOOD LORD. Stop the voice breaking
- D:” And I’ll keep believing until I can’t”
Kat: MY BOYS 😭😭😭😭
Nat: NO
Giul: JARED WTF
- D:” you’ll have to take it for what it is....the end”
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Nat: SAM WON'T DO IT
Giul: STOP IT
-D:” and you have to promise me “ [Dean’s voice get high] “ that you’ll do then what you can’t do now. and that’s let me go”
Giul: HE FUCKING WON T
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Nat: FUCK YOU ALL
Kat: JARED STOP YOUR FACE
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Nat: FUCK YOU
Giul: JARED FUCK U
Kat: ALL OF YOU STOP YOUR FACES
Giul: FUCK IT FUCK ALL OF U
Nat: I'M DONE FUCK THIS SHIT
-D:” Just don’t hit me again”
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- STOP THIS FUCKING MUSIC RIGHT FUCKING NOW
Zeta: i HATE ALL OF THIS
Nat: I DON'T WANNA WATCH ANYMORE, NO MORE SPN FOR ME
Zeta: I HAAAAAAATE IT!!!!!
Giul: AND WE HAVE ALL SEASON 15 too
Nat: FUCK THIS
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Giul: YAAAASP GUYS
Kat : NO YOU HAVE TO WATCH NEXT WEEK
Giul: PROMO NOW
Zeta: Yeet
Kat: PREVIEW
Giul: GO WATCH THE PROMO BITCH
Kat : GO I CAN’T FREAKING WAIT
Giul: i LOVE IT 
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