Dante’s notes cutscene where everyone in the bus is having a meal together and each of them is enjoying their respective hamhampangpang dishes. Nothing too evocative, besides the fact it’s their favorites, except that... Ryoshu’s wordlessly crying over her oyakodon on her seat. Dante sees this and loudly train honks, catching everyone’s attention.
<Ryoshu????! Oh my god is she alright I’ve never seen her cry before??!>
She mutters out a “I.M.M.D.” to which Sinclair mindlessly translates with his mouth full of Rösti. That is when we get the reveal that, huh, she has a daughter.
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thank you for your posts! they've been super helpful in understanding far cry 5 lore better. if you don't mind, i have a lore question; i've seen people claiming that the faith seed in the game killed her predecessor (in the cult, not joseph's wife), and other people claiming that joseph and/or john killed her. do you know if there's anything in fc5 that says or implies who killed the former faith?
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People who claim that Faith killed her predecessor have probably played the Far Cry 6 Collapse DLC. In that game, she explains she pushed the previous Faith off the statue of Joseph and that’s how she took her place in the cult. It was her test, the “leap of faith” she talks about in Far Cry 5, but according to the DLC, she didn’t actually jump.
Technically, she isn’t really the one telling this story because everything Joseph experiences in Collapse is a creation of the Voice and/or his tortured mind. Still, even though he’s upset when “Faith” says what she did, it’s more in a “don’t remind me of my mistakes” way than in a “stop telling lies” way, I think, so it seems it’s supposed to be true and not Joseph/the Voice distorting the facts.
The problem is that this was never mentioned in Far Cry 5 and that the DLC has a different writing team. It’s still official, and to some people that’s enough to make it canon, but to me it’s not, and I’ve noted too many inconsistencies to consider it a reliable source of information. It was also Collapse that “revealed” Joseph’s wife was the first, original Faith Seed, but this was never mentioned anywhere before, either; she didn’t have a name in Far Cry 5.
So it’s not really wrong to say Faith killed her predecessor because it’s the story officially told in Collapse, but it’s not what Far Cry 5 said, so I don’t consider this canon (it’s just my opinion, though). Maybe the DLC’s writers felt they had to explain how she survived jumping off the statue because they thought it would have killed her (even though we know the leap of faith isn’t always lethal)...
In Far Cry 5, there unfortunately is almost no information about what happened to the other Faiths. We just know there were at least two, Lana and Selena, and that, according to the author of the “Grieving Note”, Lana died and her body was disposed of at the Horned Serpent Cave. It seems it was then Selena who replaced her and that she was the predecessor of the current Faith, Rachel, but her whereabouts are unknown.
The note “A Confession” implies the Faith who wrote it was afraid of Joseph’s reaction if he found out that her devotion to the Project was “plagued by doubt”, so that suggests he might be at least partly responsible for her presumed demise. That said, no one clearly explains anything and the previous Faiths are barely mentioned, so we can only speculate about what exactly became of them. The Father says Rachel “was not the first”, and he must know the truth about her predecessors, but we don’t.
As for John being the murderer of the former Faith(s), I guess it’s not completely improbable since we can imagine anything, but there’s zero evidence he was directly involved in whatever happened.
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Different anon,but flip the narrative. Replace Gregory with Evan. Put the boy in the pizzaplex, what would he do?
okay so we don't know exactly how Gregory got into the pizzaplex in the first place; maybe he was kidnapped and brought there specifically by Vanny, maybe he was glitchtrap-mindcontrolled and only broke free during a venture in the pizzaplex before Vanny chased after him; we don't know.
If Evan were to be kidnapped and brought there by Vanny, I'm not sure things would work out in his favor. There's no way he's overpowering her. I think the most chance he would have in that situation is if Vanny wasn't in her A-game at the time; either she got distracted and allowed Evan to escape, or she got cocky and made a mistake.
But if we're talking about an Evan who just gets dropped in the middle of the pizzaplex at night (either after escaping Vanny, or through time travel or mindcontrol shenanigans), then honestly, I think Evan would get through it just fine.
Would he be hella scared throughout the experience and have nightmares and trauma afterward? yeah. But I do think he'd be able to survive.
A lot of Gregory's difficulties in his night at the pizzaplex were because he was trying to escape. He kept moving throughout the pizzaplex, moving between one possible exit and the next, drawing more and more attention to himself and getting himself into more and more trouble as he went. He was on the offense through the entire night.
But as fnaf 4 showed us, Evan is more of an 'on the defense' and not 'on the offense' kid. He tries avoiding Mike, and he tries holing up in his room and not letting any animatronics in rather than going after them before they can get him. Honestly, I think Evan would hole up in a hidden spot and refuse to come out until the pizzaplex is open again and he'd be just fine. Even if the animatronics and Vanny are looking for him, the pizzaplex is HUGE. Finding a little kid who doesn't want to be found isn't going to be an easy feat.
Of course, Evan tends to assume the best of people, so if he didn't have any reason to suspect Vanessa (which could be anything as obvious as seeing her with the mask/knife or as subtle as picking up on her having similar mannerisms to Vanny or overhearing Vanessa say she wants him "dealt with"), then it's possible that Vanessa might coax him out only for Vanny to kill him. Buuuut, on the other hand, Vanessa's personality comes off as abrasive, to say the least, in Security Breach, which Evan would hardly find comforting; he could decide that it's best to just wait for the place to open rather than come out, anyway. Or he might have just picked up on the fact that Vanessa is out to get him. It could honestly go both ways when it comes to whether Evan would trust Vanessa.
And now for THE question on everyone's minds when it comes to an au where Evan is the one in the pizzaplex: how the heck is this child reacting to Glamrock Freddy?
I mean, obviously he's terrified. A giant real life manifestation of his greatest, most abused fear standing right there and towering over him?? Evan is NOT having a good time.
But the Glamrock animatronics have phenomenal AI. I would be genuinely surprised if these guys didn't have protocols put in place to calm down any kids who are scared of them (scared little kids don't put any money in Fazbear Enterteinment's pockets, do they?). I don't know if Glamrock Freddy would actually be able to get Evan to calm down and maybe-kinda trust him, but it sure would be fun to see him try.
I mean, it would take Evan completely by suprise; this kind of thing would probably have never happened to him before. The more basic animatronics that we see in all other fnaf locations wouldn't have any ''don't frighten the kids'' protocols or dialogue in their programming (their ai obviously isn't as good, and putting those protocols in place isn't as intuitive in such small locations where the animatronics are so basic and rarely even leave the stage). And no one wearing the animatronic springlock suits would have been allowed to talk; just like modern day mascots, it ruins the illusion for all ages if the animatronics' voices are constantly changing as the person behind the mask changes, too. No animatronic is likely to have ever tried comforting Evan before. Well... to be honest, few humans have ever tried doing that for him, either. It would be a new experience in more ways than one.
Whether Evan begins to trust Freddy or not, there is NO way this kid is ever willingly hopping inside Freddy's chest cavity XD
(though, it would be interesting to see Evan hiding inside Freddy's chest cavity because his options are 98% likelihood of dying in an animatronic vs 100% likelihood of dying to Vanny; then Evan wakes up inside Freddy's chest cavity, and the thing that gets Evan to trust Freddy is that Freddy actually listens when Ev says he's scared and doesn't trust Vanessa...)
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