#dr soong

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Remade this post of mine

[marshwaters]

Data, Lore, and Noonien Soong

The suffering they have put Data through already is destroying me. All his family has DIED or been EVIL.

Made this after watching S04E03 for the first time. It destroyed me. Convinced If they just hugged their dad everything would be ok.

[startrekmemequeen]

Soong family + reCAPTCHA

(bonus Geordi)

The one with Noonien is Cold Equations reference

[spocks-husband]

My favorite thing about Brent Spiner playing all the Soong men is the fact that these mfs must have the STRONGEST genes in the universe. Literally all of them since the 2100s have looked and sounded and debatably acted EXACTLY the same. It's so funny.

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data wasnt bad at being a human he was just weird because he was a poet

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S c r e a m i n g

Brent Spiner as Dr Soong-S6:E16 Birthright i/ii

[nothingbeforenothingagain]

How would Lal surviving The Offspring have changed Data’s career trajectory?

If he lost custody of Lal, would he have accepted it? Would he really keep working for an institution that enslaved his child? I doubt it. Though he seemed ready to give her up until Picard told him to stand his ground, I’ve always thought he knew he’d have to fight for her outside Starfleet and was planning on resigning immediately.

If he successfully maintained custody, and she was allowed to stay on the Enterprise, I still think Starfleet would have eventually disrespected her, treated her as lesser, etc. Would this have soured him on Starfleet? I think it very inevitably would. I think it would have eroded his trust in the institution and he might have still left to protect her. Which would have been an interesting dilemma for him considering he originally wanted her to join Starfleet.

I also think it’s funny Noonien wanted him to be a cyberneticist, and like his father, he wanted Lal to follow in his footsteps.

Thoughts?

[thelastdayalive]

BRENT SPINER as dr. Arik Soong in Star Trek: Enterprise

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“Often Wrong's got a broken heart - Can't even tell his boys apart.”

My fav ST siblings ❤️

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Bee and Puppycat style Noonien Soong

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Love love love your writing! Do you have any hcs on activities that Data enjoys doing in the holodeck? (besides what we see on TNG)

I'm so glad you enjoy my writing, and thank you so much for dropping this into my inbox!

To be honest, I didn't really think about this before, mostly because the show gave us a decent amount of insight into the kinds of activities Data does in the holodeck. However, now that you mention it, I think there are actually a lot of things we could have (or if I may be so bold to declare, should have) seen Data do in the holodeck. I feel like the show touched on the sort of "obvious" activities he'd do, but not exactly his more hobby-esque/personal activities.

Anyway, long story short, I do have some headcanons about this for you! I hope you enjoy, and please feel free to add on, if you have any more ideas or if you feel I left something out 😊

I think Data would have 3 types of holodeck programs: ones for him to practice his skills and hobbies, ones that he does with his friends, and ones that are a bit more personal and private.

The most obvious hobby-esque programs would be those for practicing plays he would later perform for the other crew members. However, I think he would also have programs for his poetry. I think his cadence and tone when he verbally shared his poetry indicates that he practiced verbal reading before. I believe he developed a program with some poets that he wanted to emulate, and he practiced writing and reading poetry aloud with them.

The same goes for his instrument playing. Although he had all the information about every single instrument, musician, and how to play them in his data banks, I think he still would have needed to actually see someone play an instrument to fully understand how to play it himself. So, I think he definitely would have needed to make a few programs of the best musicians for each instrument he wanted to play.

I think he'd also do this with painting, and his favorite painters.

Honestly, I'm surprised TNG never had Data paint a "live" scene in the holodeck because he definitely would do that!

I think he loves nature, so he'd probably have several nature programs to paint. Things like an ocean/beach, a forest, a desert, etc.

I also thought it was kind of odd that Data did all his hobbies in his quarters. Even though he can't exactly get distracted, I feel like everyone always needs him/lowkey interrupts him, even (read: especially) when he's off duty. I think at some point, he'd realize that sometimes, he'd want to do his recreational activities uninterrupted, and that's when he'd create holodeck programs that he can have a little bit more peace and freedom in.

For the holodeck programs for his friends, I think he'd also have at least one program per each of his friends, that he individually does together with them.

For Geordi, we saw that they solved Holmes mysteries together. I couldn't really think of any other activities they might do together, so I'm going to say that this is their main one.

They might change it up a bit and solve other mysteries together, but that's all I can really see them doing together in the holodeck.

Because Data is well-revered in the Klingon empire for his strength, and I'm sure Worf also admires this about him, I think Data would have some type of fighting program that he does with Worf.

I don't think he'd participate in the fighting program Worf did with K'ehleyr (I feel like it's a bit too violent for Data's taste), but I think he does like the teamwork aspect of it, so he'd probably construct a program that involved them fighting enemies together.

Every once in a while, usually when Worf is in a really bad mood, he'll want to do some hand-to-hand combat with Data to blow off steam, so Data might try to incorporate that into the program, as well (i.e. maybe the last level is they have to fight each other, as only one can win the game).

Also, I just want to say that it's a CRIME we didn't have more Worf and Data friend interactions. I'm not sure why they made Worf sort of apprehensive and not very friendly with Data because I personally think they are great friends and get along well!

For Riker, I think Data would have a program of a little jazz bar where they'd play together.

Riker, of course, would play his beloved trombone, and I think Data would love playing the clarinet or the harmonica.

They'd be their own little duo, and call themselves The Lady Killers (per Riker's suggestion).

They'd invite the other crew members every once in a while to the program to come watch them play.

Data would also have that classic hat and a pair of those classic sunglasses lots of jazz musicians wear that he'd have on when he played.

For Picard's designated program, I think it would be the same as the theatrical programs Data did with him in the show, except instead of doing them for Picard and asking his opinions on his performances, they'd perform together and provide critiques/advice for each other.

Most of them are Shakespeare plays, of course, and the programs would be an equal mix of both Picard's and Data's favorite ones.

Personally, I think Data's favorite Shakespeare plays would be The Merchant of Venice, A Midsummer Night's Dream, The Comedy of Errors, and The Tempest (I will spare you all from my in-depth analysis of why I think he'd enjoy these in particular because this post is already too long 😅)

For Beverly, I think Data would have a dancing program. Although she doesn't want to be known as "The Dancing Doctor" again, I think she still loves and sometimes even misses dancing. So, I think Data would try to remedy this dilemma by making a program for them, in which she can teach him new dances, and they can both learn new dances together.

She's very touched by this, and is always happy to dance with him and/or teach him a new dance!

I think Data's favorite dances would be ballet (it's a great way for him to practice his strength and balance) and the tango (he loves the fast pace and I feel like the moves are bit stiffer than other dances, which would work in his favor).

I think this could also technically be considered as one of Data's private and personal programs, since Beverly likely would prefer if he didn't tell others about it.

For Deanna, I feel like she's always wanted to have her very own proper tea party. So, I think he'd make a program for her so they could have a little tea party together!

The first time they tried out the program, Data had misunderstood that she wanted a child's tea party, so everything in the program was very small.

Additionally, she showed up dressed in regal clothes (including a fancy feathered hat), while he showed up in big goofy sunglasses and a pink, sparkly feather boa.

After she laughed for a good 10 minutes, leaving the poor baby so confused, she explained that she had wanted an English-esque, adult tea party. He adjusted the program and his wardrobe accordingly (but she insisted he keep the boa and sunglasses).

Riker also sometimes joins them in this program (he's also a big fan of the boa and sunglasses).

I have to point out that it was also a crime that Data and Deanna's friendship wasn't developed more in the show. I think they both have equal amounts of intrigue and curiosity for one another. Data would want to learn so much about human emotions and behavior from her, and she wants to learn more about his emotions and how she can help him realize they're real and valid. As a result, I think they'd be very good friends.

For Spot, Data would have a "feline enrichment" program, consisting of a large pond with lots of koi fish, trees with lots of birds, and tall grass/shrubbery with insects for her to play with and chase.

He'd take her to this program at least once a week, to help her get her excess energy (and anger) out.

She absolutely LOVES it, and he accidentally Pavlov-ed her because whenever he brings out her leash and harness, she knows exactly where they're going. This leads to her meowing very loudly and excitedly, and aggressively rubbing against his legs.

Lastly, for his more personal and private programs, I think they'd be programs that are for his eyes/participation only, and he wouldn't share them with anyone else.

Despite his stoicism, I think Lal's death really had an effect on him, and he'd make a hologram of her in the holodeck to help cope with the loss.

Whenever he especially "misses" her, like when he rescued another child/orphan or spent his day around children, he'd go to the holodeck to see her afterwards.

I think this program would just be a replicate of his quarters, and he'd mostly just sit and talk with her.

Sometimes he'll do activities with her, like teaching her to play an instrument or make art.

This program he would especially keep to himself, and wouldn't talk about or show it to anyone.

The only person I can think of him maybe showing it to would be his significant other, if it ever got to the point in their relationship where he'd want them to meet Lal.

Otherwise though, it's his little secret.

I think he'd also have a private program with a hologram of Noonien in it.

I think he partially blames himself for his father's death, and he barely got to know him or ask him everything he wanted to ask, so I think that would be the main purpose of this program.

He just wants some closure and a better understanding of himself, as well as his father, and I think this is the way he'd seek both of those things.

He wouldn't show this program to anyone either, except maybe his significant other, if their relationship progressed that far.

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Literally me

[oswaldsplace]

is it really an episode of star trek if brent spiner isn’t there doing something ever so slightly unhinged?

[devotionsforconfession]

Always shook to my core that Dr Soong DISASSEMBLED LORE bc he was behaving strangely.

Like. That's his dad. And!!! He's an android, he's programed like that!! He's an android with emotions and irrational responses - he's as close to human as he could get at that time.

Like imagine being Lore - as people our flaws and foibles are still are own, yknow? Like we can be mean and cruel and petty and selfish, and Lore does too, but unlike a human, the standards set for Lore mean that when he fails to be ontologically perfect, his dad DECIDES TO SWITCH HIM OFF, TAKE HIM TO BITS AND LOBOTOMISE HIM!!

Baffling, honestly.

Like of course he's pissed of course he hatesloveshates Data, of course he goes on an anti human murder spree.

To Lore, his odd behaviours and less than pleasant manner are probably just as much him as everything else. It's giving stepfird wives honestly.

And I know he was like a murderer or whatever but I do feel like if you're going to take the step of Creating New Life as a God Frankenstein Gepetto hybrid, you should have to come to terms with the idea that your creation might not be perfect.

(I mean none of the three I just mentioned did except for God maybe if you cherry pick)

You can Create New Sentient Life or you can fuck about w AI turning it on and off at your leisure, but doing both makes you a bit evil honestly. You might have to reckon with the fact that your creature may be less than perfect, may be distasteful, unpleasant to be around, might even be evil. Like all parents. You don't get to switch your kid off bc you made them wrong this time. You have to reckon with their failures yourself.

Imagine if your parent decided to do open brain surgery on you bc he didn't like how you turned out AND YOURE AN ADULT AND NOTHING CAN STOP HIM.

Like. If you're a murderer or whatever, the punishment is not forcible lobotomy. It's so creepy the way androids are like... casually dehumanised (for want of a better word) in the show.

I don't think I'm phrasing this as well a I'd like but I just wanted to get it out of my system lol. Maybe this is covered in the show or the movies and I've memory holed it bc it's been a while since I've watched them but like... jfc.

[gallwithapall]

I do wonder, how much they paid Brent Spiner to do this... because I WHEEZE every time I watch this...he made Arik Soong so unhinged like?

BABE?!? B A B E!!! B A B E!!!

What...what made you think THAT WOULD WORK?!

His face in the last pic IM SEIZING