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hellzyeahthewebwieldingavenger · 5 years

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Marvel Comics #1000 Thoughts

This is going to be short. To review or even just give my thoughts on this comic is kind of insane as it’s less a story unto itself as it is the most ambitious anthology project in Marvel history.

On that front I give Marvel, really Al Ewing, credit.

As I was reading the book Ewing’s story was the one drawing me in and wanting me to learn more. As is common with Ewing it’s a bold, ambitious idea that embraces Marvel history for the most part. I’m not certain but it almost seems to me Ewing was kind of implying that a lot of Marvel characters across history to have worn a generic black mask might’ve been wearing in fact the exact same one. The part about the story that did tick me off though was that Cebulski and others implied Ewing’s story would be threading through every story in the comic, but it really doesn’t, it stops and starts so other creators can do their totally unconnected pages.

As for the other stories themselves, as is the case with anthologies, they vacillate in quality vastly.

What makes the project befuddling is that some of them are clearly intended to be canonical, others ambiguously so and others obviously not as they break the fourth wall (no it’s not just Deadpool who does it either). Hell there is a STAR WARS story in this, which is definitely not part of the Marvel Universe.

I’m not going to cover them individually sans the Spider-Man specific ones in another post(s?).

What did annoy or confuse me was that the gimmick for this comic is that every page represents a year between 1939-now and the subject of every page connects to something related to Marvel that happened that year.

Whilst this comic does hold true to that idea a lot of the pages are very tangential in their connection.

Perhaps the most poignant example is the first page set in the modern day, which features America Chavez. The page is supposed to touch upon the original Miss America, whom America Chavez is basically a legacy character to. Featuring America Chavez makes sense, but the original Miss America is never mentioned, alluded to, or anything. Other examples include 1994 being notable for the Clone Saga so the page is about Spider-Man, but it hasn’t got anything to do with the Clone Saga. The most obnoxious example is from Chip Zdarsky (what a shock). It’s the 2008 page and represents how Iron Man the movie was released. It’s literally just panels of face shots of Iron Man’s suit as he changes from one to another. That isn’t even a story!

More frustratingly is the fact that for something celebrating 80 years of Marvel you’d think every year would zero in on something really notable, really iconic, something really famous about each of those years right? And the comic makes it clear that we aren’t just talking comics either as Iron Man and Deadpool’s movies get pages dedicated to them.

But the choices are just really weird a lot of the times.

Case in point the 2000 page is used to commemorate Chris Claremont returning to the X-Men. Like...really? Surely the start of the ULTIMATE universe was a bigger deal that year? Same thing for 2002. You’d think Spider-Man the movie would get a page marking it? Nope...Elsa Bloodstone. Proportionally how many people reading this comic even knew who the fuck Elsa Bloodstone was? 2012 sees Slott and Martin return to mark the fact that ASM #700 came out that year. Surely the Avengers movie was a bigger deal that year?

Over all, much like Action and Detective Comics #1000 (though they EARNED their high numbers) this comic is worth a pick up just as a piece of history, there will never be an 80th anniversary of Marvel ever again...well I mean technically there could be because Marvel go back and forth over whether they begin counting in 1939 or in 1961 but you know what I mean!

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alivses · 5 years

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⎣ krysten ritter, cisfemale, she/her ⎤I just saw [ JESSICA JONES ] walking around new york, they’re [ 47 ] years old and go by [ JEWEL ]. they had kids with [ CLAIRE TEMPLE & LUKE CAGE ] and I’ve heard they’re [ IN AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP ]. they’re also [ A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR ]. at their best they’re [ PROTECTIVE & UNYIELDING ] but at their worst they can be [ ORNERY & SELF-DESTRUCTIVE ].

{ trigger warnings : mentions/implications of alcoholism, sexual assault, death, hospitals/comas, & mental illness }

ohhhmygod im nervous kfjghdkfj okay HEY EVERYONE i’m ty, i took about a year hiatus from tumblr roleplaying to focus on my final year of university but now that i’ve graduated, i’m ready to get back into it! more about me & my angry dotter under the cut ~

ABOUT ME //

i’m ty, i’m 21, almost 22! canadian born & raised, ive got a degree in criminology & psychology, doing my masters in social work, and ive got a pending job with ubisoft aka the video game company responsible for the amazing assassin’s creed franchise! oh yeah, i’m also a huge video game nerd lmao. i love love comics and anything comic related, and im super fucking stoked to be here to write with all of you guys! tbh feel free to hit me up at anytime for plots & other shenanigans, i’m always up for just about anything really!

ok so now for the fun part and the reason youre all reading this prob lmaoo ~ ABOUT JJ //

jessica jones is my angry trash daughter

i mean that literally

how many dumpsters have you fallen into, jessica?

but in all seriousness.

for the most part ( i say this because who’s to know what’ll happen in s3 of jessica jones? ) i’ll be keeping the tv show canon and just adding it into jessica’s canon comic timeline.

so i want to say she was with killgrave at around age 22-23 and had danielle a couple of years after that, at around 25/26? again this timeline might change depending on s3

otherwise for anyone who’s not very familiar with this trash icon, heres a brief synopsis:

jessica jones had a relatively,,, normal childhood until she went out on a family vacation, got into a car wreck, her parents and younger brother died, she went into a coma, and woke up with powers

i wont spoil jessica jones for anyone who hasnt seen it and therefore i wont delve more into the nature of how she got her powers -- also that canon has me a little iiick so maybe ill just skip that ok next

trish walker convinced jj to take up a superhero mantle,,, designed her a costume & she went by jewel for a while

so that backfired lmao,,, cue her meeting killgrave

then all that Bad Shit happened and she became Even More Angry Child

she got together with luke ( and claire in my canon ) after getting freed from killgrave , they had and raised dani together , jessica went through her whole angsty knightress phase ( also a big disaster )

now she’s a raging alcoholic who curses like a sailor and a badass PI & sole employee of alias investigation ( tho sole employee can also be subject to change if someone wants to plot something out because she really does need someone like malcolm in her life )

she has ptsd and especially under stress ( particularly when concerning her being responsible for someones murder / death ) she’ll hallucinate killgrave

her powers consist of super strength & enhanced durability, and the power of “flight” aka more like jumping really high and far,,, lmao. she also built up a telepathic resistance to mind control.

she cannot,,, fight,,, like the other defenders. she doesnt really have combat training lke the rest of them. so catch this beautiful idiot just ripping doors off of cars and yeeting them around,,, i like to say she cant throw down like the other defenders so she just,,, throws people around instead. or punches them in the face. usually the latter.

along those lines she is a ( begrudging ) member of the defenders but somehow manages to find connections for herself with random unaffiliated people ( carol danvers as her best friend, elsa bloodstone, & emma frost to name a few )

for this reason i mean it when i say jj can plot with just about anyone, seriously. marvel or dc, throw them at me. it’s likely she owes someone a favour or she’ll call in a favour with someone. she knows,,, everyone. somehow.

i think that’s about it for now ! please please hmu to plot i am SO EXCITED and can’t wait to meet all of you !!

#unstoppable;intro #﹠⋅ 。✗ ꜰɪʟᴇ. ⋮「 ── some cases just won’t let you go. 」#﹠⋅ 。✗ ᴊᴇᴡᴇʟ. ⋮「 ── jessica jones. 」#「 classified. 」#「 ᴏᴏᴄ. ⋮ ── hi guys im SO EXCITED to be here dfkgjhdfjkgd #please hmu for plots! 」

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mrsspidermanmaryjanewatsonparker · 6 years

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Jessica Jones #2 Chapters 2-3

So annoyingly I didn’t understand that each issue was two chapters so I pre-ordered issue #3 by accident because I was told Chapter 3 would feature MJ.

Thoughts on this scene.

Um...well...

Okay so first of all, I’m far from the first person to have brought this up but...why is MJ referred to as iconic.

Given her various jobs, her age and her almost mayfly longevity in each of those jobs there is no reason for her to be regarded as iconic by Jessica Jones (who lest we forget is actual a personal friend of MJ’s, she was IIRC at her and Luke’s wedding) or by the news let alone general public. I get that she’s an iconic Marvel/comic book character, especially since they put her in her ASM #42 outfit. But in-universe it’s unbelievable that she would be.

It’s like if Stan Lee walked into that room and Jessica Jones referred to him as iconic. He is, in the real world. Because he created most of the Marvel Universe. But in the Marvel Universe itself, he really isn’t an icon.

So...what’s the deal?

Additionally, I’m not one those morons who regards MJ being an actress or model for a brief time as making her famous to the point where she just couldn’t be with Peter, but whilst being a famous actress, model, tv show host (especially in a world of superheros) is mayfly fame most of the time, being iconic is basically forever. And I don’t think it’s that great of an idea for Spider-Man to be involved with someone who’s like Marilyn Munroe famous.

But again...it makes no sense that she even would be so easy enough to ignore.

Equally MJ’s death and Peter’s reaction to it can be ignored too. This is after all a brief guest appearance in a digital comic that isn’t even a Spider title (although Jessica did first appear technically in Lee/Ditko ASM).

I’ve said before when it comes to canon guest appearances should be treated warily. These are stories not written by the regular writers, not written by the regular editors, featuring characters and events not depicted in the main monthly titles that are supposed to actually dictate the lives of the characters and such guest appearances are more for the sake of the main cast of said series rather than the guest characters themselves.

So consequently the best way to treat it, unless an actual Spider-Man title substantially references the events depicted, is to basically say it’s relevant to the continuity/canon of the series the character is guesting in but not necessarily relevant to the series that primarily features the guest star themselves.

So case in point, MJ died and Spider-Man was devastated by that...within Jessica Jones continuity.

But in Spider-Man continuity that either didn’t happen or you should treat it as though it didn’t until the day comes where that event is directly enough acknowledged.

After all, it seems highly unlikely Spencer will be referencing the events of Jessica Jones #2 and if they were to truly count it’d make no sense for them to be unmentioned.

Peter has lost his parents (technically twice), he’s lost Uncle Ben, he’s lived through simulations of losing aunt May three times (four if you count Back in Black), he’s lost Gwen and gone through simulations of her death multiple times and he believed MJ to have died once before as well as losing her romantically before too, only recently having gotten her back.

Even if you hadn’t seen his realistic shock and despair in this issue, 100% if he found out from out the blue that MJ was dead you’d see evidence of serious emotional and mental effects upon him. Even if she came back soon after he found out she was dead and it was a false alarm, him believing she was truly dead however briefly would obviously have an impact upon him and their relationship in the immediate future.

Ironically it may even have more of an effect than it would upon MJ depending upon the nature of her death and resurrection. If it was sudden and the equivalent from her POV of being knocked out for several hours, she might intellectually know she was dead but wouldn’t go through any major mental or emotional ramifications from the experience.

But they’d HAVE to talk about it if it really mattered.

In spite of what I said about how you should probably treat guest appearances, that doens’t mean I think writers of guest stars should be given free reign to do as they wish.

Why should such a major event as the death of Mary Jane and Spider-Man’s emotional devastation over such a thing transpire in 2 short guest appearance scenes from a 40 page digital comic about a non-Spider-Man character?

For Elsa Bloodstone that may fly. She isn’t Spider-Man or MJ famous and hasn’t got a place she regularly appears.

This is in the history of both characters a major noteworthy event and it’s brief and inconsequential and is dictated by something as inconsequential as a brief guest appearance.

That doesn’t seem right at all.

#Jessica Jones #Kelly Thompson #Elsa Bloodstone #MJ Watson #mjwatsonedit #mary jane watson #Mary Jane Watson Parker #Spider-Man #Peter Parker

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leilawhittaker · 11 months

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Talk about jace and wade!!

THANK YOU MY ANGEL!!! <3 Putting under a cut

(CW for incest, sexual violence)

OKAY so this is a little convoluted but Jace having a convoluted backstory and knowing like everyone in the multiverse is like a running gag for me so it works in context.

This also all relies on the idea that comics!Jace and Deadpool have had this iconic odd friendship for decades, and XMCU Deadpool is aware of that. However, Jace doesn’t exist in the XMCU (or if she does, it’s in an extremely minor and unrecognizable way, like Emma Frost in Wolverine Origins.)

So basically: in MM, there are actually seven infinity stones (seven stones for seven OG avengers.) The seventh stone is the life stone, also known as the bloodstone or blood gem by the hunting community and the Bloodstone family. It’s been in the possession of Jace’s biological father, Ulysses Bloodstone, for hundreds of years and is the source of his longevity (not true immortality; he got the stone in his twenties and in the span of 700 years with the stone, he’s only aged about 30 years, putting him biologically in his fifties when we meet him. The life stone CAN be used for immortality, but Ulysses isn’t as smart as he thinks he is and doesn’t know what an infinity stone even is.)

Quick primer on Jace’s backstory: her birth name is Jocelyn Camilla Bloodstone. Her mother was Alyssa Bloodstone. (I will be changing Alyssa’s name, this is her working title if you will.) Before Alyssa, Ulysses had two other children from a prior marriage, Elsa and Cullen. Ulysses treated them cruelly, especially Elsa, forcing them into dangerous situations to teach them to hunt monsters–imagine fanon!John Winchester dialed up to 100.

(In the comics, there’s an incident where Elsa as a child killed a monster, but got its blood all over her head, and Ulysses refused to let her or her mother shave her head, instead making her keep it there to infect her scalp to punish her for her inadequacy. Elsa and Cullen’s mother Elise’s objection to the situation caused Ulysses to have her institutionalized. In the fic, though, he arranged for Elise to have an “accident” with some monsters, killing her. He quickly remarried to Jace’s mother, and they had her shortly thereafter.)

Jace’s mother, Alyssa, knew she didn’t want this treatment for her and when Jace was five, Alyssa arranged for Jace to be taken in by a local circus troupe, where she was raised by Clint and Barney Barton as their younger sister (alongside Wes, another abandoned kid who became family with them.)

When Jace was fourteen, her superpowers manifested. Her brothers didn’t handle it well–they weren’t mean, they just didn’t know what to do or how to handle it and she needed more guidance than they knew how to give. So Jace left to find her birth family in the hopes of finding answers. She did manage to find the Bloodstones, and Ulysses trained her to hunt for a few years. Jace had the skills that Cullen lacked, but like Cullen, she was too soft to meet Ulysses’ standards, unable to stomach his ruthless methods and philosophy about monsters. Ulysses would take out an entire pack of werewolves including babies without question; Jace didn’t have that in her. She cried after hunting a lot and tried to hide this from her father, but he knew.

However, Ulysses was intrigued by the potential of Jace’s power, and wanted to replicate it with a child he could raise from a younger age to hopefully stamp out that “weakness.” Alyssa was long dead at this point, having met the same fate as Elsa’s mother after saving Jace by letting her go. So instead, with the help of his wife, Verussa, he tried to sexually assault Jace to have a child with her.

Jace managed to escape but accidentally temporarily killed Ulysses in the process. (Temporarily because the Bloodstone would bring him to life.) Elsa was on one of her rare visits home at that point and helped Jace escape to Ireland, and Jace didn’t see any of her biological family for years after that.

I’m still figuring out what triggers Jace going back to confront Ulysses–I think she’s found out through the grapevine that he’s doing something so awful that she can’t sit back and let it happen, and she goes to kill him for good.

There’s a lot of overlap between the hunting community and the mercenary community, and that’s how she meets Wade Wilson. At least, she thinks that’s how.

On Wade’s side–this is during his time travel adventure at the end of Deadpool 2. We know that time travel has to do with the multiverse so I won’t worry too much for now on how he gets into the MCU, just know that he does, and he comes specifically for Jace, specifically at this moment. (More on this soon.)

Jace is initially put off by him–he acts bizarrely familiar with her, as if they’ve met before, which bothers her more than the weird meta commentary–but she’s kind of glad to not be alone, so she accepts his offer to team up. (Unsure what excuse he gives for wanting to team up, maybe he pretends someone paid him to kill Ulysses. Jace is tempted to just let him, but she knows she has to be a part of taking him down, to make sure it sticks this time.)

So they go to Bloodstone Manor, and while Wade is in another part of the house, Jace confronts Ulysses and gets to a point where she scream/sobs “YOU RUINED MY LIFE, YOU RUINED ME” at him (potentially at his dead body at this point, it’s a very charged moment for her.)

Later, Wade and Jace sit on the edge of the Brooklyn bridge, about to throw the Bloodstone into the water so no one can use it to bring Ulysses back. Wade brings up that he overheard what Jace had said to Ulysses.

(“Speaking of that fuckwaffle–”

“That’s an insult to waffles.”

“Fucknugget?”

“Continue.”)

He tells her that she’s not ruined, and her life doesn’t have to be, either, and she genuinely takes it to heart.

Despite that she still has very mixed feelings about it because…like she literally murdered her father with malice aforethought, I think killing him at first was an accident but throwing the stone into the ocean was very much an intentional attempt to make him stay dead. And I think anyone would have complicated feelings about that, even if he was a monster. So for years she kind of has this sense of shame and she thinks about what that weirdo w the red suit said a lot and it does bring her comfort.

Flash forward to End Game. Jace actually isn't on the team to get the life stone. She’s with Rhodey and Nebula to get the power stone. Team New York is supposed to get the life stone from Ulysses while he happened to be there in 2012.

However, things go wrong on their end–Jace’s information was incomplete. She didn’t know that while Ulysses was in New York in May 2012, he’d loaned the blood gem to Elsa, who wasn’t there.

Meanwhile, things also go wrong–but also right–on Jace’s end, because while Nebula gets taken by Thanos, Jace gets taken by the Shi’ar. Specifically the Dragozera people that Adira (GOTG OC) was born into.

The Dragozera people are the guardians of the dragon force, which I’ve told you about but I’ll go into again here. The dragon force in MM is the opposite of the phoenix force, and it’s based on the goblin force from a comics AU timeline. It’s basically hunger personified, it’s consumed entire galaxies before in an attempt to satiate itself. It’s not the kind of entity you can let wander around of its own accord, it NEEDS a host to keep it under control or else the entire universe could die.

(I changed the name because goblin force really only makes sense in the context of Maddy Pryor, the host of it, being the goblin queen; because the dragon feels like a more natural opposite to the phoenix; and also because Jace is Jewish and there’s like, implications to think about.)

Anyway, the dragozera take her for two reasons:

One: They want the snap undone, too, and they know (via seer) that the time heist is going to fail if nobody intervenes and helps them get the life stone.

Two: The dragon force, which has been asleep for millenia, has started to stir ever since Thanos’ snap. They know that undoing the snap will cause a second burst of cosmic energy that will wake up the dragon force completely, and they want to have a host ready for it to minimize casualties. They’ve sought out Jace specifically for…reasons, idk, I’ll figure it out.

Anyways. The Shi’ar Dragozera send her back in time to the first time she killed Ulysses by accident, the temporary one. They want to test her to see what she’ll do in that kind of emotionally charged moment, facing something like that. Jace finds the shame inside her transforms into rage, partly because she’s seeing how young she actually was at the time and is realizing that she was a literal child and it wasn’t her fault. She manages to stay in control and get the stone, though.

While she’s there, she runs into Deadpool, who has once again popped in from multiversal shenanigans to hang out with her. When asked about his presence, he says “I couldn’t miss the biggest crossover event in movie history!”, turns directly to the camera, says “don’t get excited, this is just a cameo,” and then turns back to Jace and says “plus, I like seeing this guy get murdered.”

Jace is, once again, very perplexed by him but still happy to see him and to not be alone.

Anyways, Jace returns with Rhodey and Nebula (secretly past!Nebula) with the life and power stones. End Game battle happens, they bring everyone back (snap), they destroy Thanos and his army (snap), and this begins the process of the dragon force’s awakening, which causes Jace to become its host in the aftermath of the blip. Deadpool 3 happens and Wade gets to hang out with Jace more.

But the thing I wanna mention is why Wade has been continually showing up for Jace in these moments with her father. Wade is not the reason Jace killed Ulysses permanently. She was on that path anyway. And it wasn’t easy for her to do or live with.

Wade can be flippant all he wants about how he just likes seeing rapists die or he just wanted to hang out with her, both of which are true, but I think ultimately, he saw the opportunity to be a part of this part of Jace’s life and he took it because he didn’t want her to be alone through it.

#cat #qna #jace barton #wade wilson

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