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#episode is called Fionna and cake and Fionna btw
calicobel · 1 year
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I can’t believe Fionna and Cakes universe in Ice King/Simons mind was foreshadowed back in season 9
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forgetbeam · 1 year
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marshall pequeño 🤏
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sleepyteapartybackup · 11 months
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I'm a fake simon fan btw... didnt care about him before fionna and cake because even though i grew up on adventure time, somehow out of all the adventure time eps I've watched, i never watched his backstory ones?? I just knew him as "simon is what some chrs call the ice king", a vague idea that his crown is why he's Like That, and also watching the final episode when it came out and being like "why is ice king hot. Why does he have a gf. What."
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z3ny44 · 1 year
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Spoilers for Fionna and Cake ep 7
OMG SO MANY STUFF ON THIS EPISODE;;
So in this Dimenson it looks like Simon died long before he met Marceline, from the looks he was bit by a vampire, before he even found the crown, which is really weird, since he found the crown before the War and from what I can remember there were no vampires before the Great Mushroom War.
Right off the bat we see that PB is leading some sort of rebellion against the vampires, she has a tank with the voice of Peppermint Buttler, along with FINN'S DAD!! Martin, and Huntress Wizard but she doesn't have magic here... So yea this trio is weird as fuck lmaom but it gets even weirder as it seems that Fionna has brought baby Finn along by mistake, but I'll get back to baby Finn later.
Meanwhile we get to see Scarab, he's with Prismo and trying to figure out how to get to Fionna's current dimension. That man's obsessed lmao, he's been declining calls from the Boss for a while now, he might get into trouble lol
THE COSMIC OWL IS WANTED WHAT??? what did my boy do.....
Suddenly Scarab is transported somewhere else and we don't see him anymore this episode... he's so done ahahahah
Back to the vampire's dimension, clearly Cake is much more comfortable with her powers, she even wrote her name perfectly with her arm lol.
So Marceline was raised by the Vampire King here, and so yeah she's the villain here... and WHAT NO?! She just killed Martin... man... Not good Martin ffs... oh yeah Billy is also dead here:
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Fionna really stressed me a lot in this episode... She lacks the hero trait man... Cake is confident about her powers and wants to help but Fionna keeps messing it up! I know she's scared and worried about Cake but DO something to help then... don't ruin Cake's plan...
But yea they ran away this time, they couldn't solve shit.
Tbh my theorie here is that Finn, which stayed in the peppermint tank btw, will eventually grow up and defeat all them vampires... idk he's a hero by nature, it's just my headcannon lol
As a subplot we saw Gary and Marshall from Fionna's original dimension, they went to Mom Abadeer's house, and yeah it wasn't anything special imo, but it was nice to see the human version of the likes of Magic Man, Maja, and the Pianist lol. I also loved to see Gary's ideas having so much attention from the rest of the peeps
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quietwingsinthesky · 1 year
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Friend, could you explain to me the newest adventure time stuff? Like the simon/ice king thing, what's the plot/backstory that got revealed? At first I assumed these designs I kept seeing were new characters but then I started seeing art of the simon guy turning into the ice king. It's not a big deal but I'm curious what the context is
Sure! So the Simon thing is actually a plot point from the original show! If you’re like me and your adventure time knowledge was mainly the bumpers on Cartoon Network and covers of Marceline songs, then obviously, that’s not something you’d know because it absolutely hit me out of left field. And uh, goes without saying this whole thing is a massive spoiler for the original show. I’ve tried to keep any Fionna & Cake spoilers out, in case you want to watch that. (You should. You should also watch the original. And the Distant Lands shorts. Join us. You won’t regret it. Just maybe pace yourself and don’t watch it all in four nights like I did lol)
Anyway, to the best of my knowledge, it goes like this! Ice King was once a man named Simon Petrikov. When the world ended because of necromancy atomic bombs (btw the world ended), he survived because he discovered a magical crown. It continues to be the source of his ice magic in the main show, but at the time, when he was still Simon, he tried to keep himself from using it as each time he did, he lost a little more of himself. It’s so fucking tragic and way too goddamn relatable for me and my memory issues to see this man struggling to hold onto what makes him him, to the names of the people he loved or to what happened to them. Ice King in the main show has lost all of that. He doesn’t even know he was Simon. He doesn’t recognize Marceline, the girl he raised in the post-apocalypse and who he wore the crown to protect countless times.
It turns out a big theme of Adventure Time is destroying yourself to save the people you love. Who knew. But you watch the show and it just. keeps. happening. And you’re screaming at the characters to stop, to not make this sacrifice, that it isn’t worth it, that there is some other way. But of course, they do it anyway. Simon becomes the Ice King to protect Marceline, and in the end, loses everything that he was.
AND NOW FOR LORE. For you see, the crown does this for a reason! It is cursed! Throughout the show, Ice King calls his penguin companion and sometimes other characters “Gunther”, which seems like a funny gag for the first few seasons, and then! It turns out that Gunther was the name of the apprentice of the Ice Elemental (Original Ice King) who created the crown in the first place to stop a comet from destroying the Earth. When he couldn’t wear the crown himself, he told his apprentice, who he had consistently belittled and kept in the dark about most magic, to do it instead and make a wish to send the comet away.
Gunther wishes to become the Ice King instead. And now, anyone, including a Finn the Human of an alternate timeline where he got the crown, will be corrupted into Gunther’s idea of the Ice King, with a little of the original person’s identity left to shape the new person they become with the crown. (Also interesting and probably just a shortcut for time in the episode, is that alternate Finn corrupts very quickly whereas Simon fights the crown for years. I just think it’s fascinating that Simon could do that! He’s just some guy!!! But he resisted turning into the Ice King for so long!!! He faltered eventually, sure, but it’s still impressive!!!)
So, main show, we’ve got the Ice King, once Simon Petrikov, and he runs around kidnapping princess and making a nuisance of himself (until the rest of the cast befriends him once they learn about what happened to him. There’s a moment in the Elementals series of the original show where Finn calls the Ice King “Simon” for i think the first time? And the Ice King doesn’t know who that is, but Finn still calls him by his real name, something s1 Finn would never have done even if he knew it, and it’s!!! that scene makes my heart melt, it’s so small but it’s!!! yes! character growth for my boy and recognition of his tragedy for my old man!!!)
But why does he kidnap princesses? Where did this fixation come from? Well, when he first found the crown, he was dating a woman named Betty. His princess. Fionna & Cake goes deeper into their relationship, so I won’t spoil beyond where the original show goes. When he puts the crown on for the first time, he loses it, scaring her away when the crown takes over his mind and he shoots ice everywhere. Far in the future, a currently depowered Simon creates a time portal in order to just apologize to her, because he never saw her again after this incident. And why didn’t he see her again? Because, crazy insane fantastic woman that she is, she jumps THROUGH HIS TIME PORTAL. Betty then joins the main show’s timeline, spending the rest of the series trying to find a cure for the crown’s curse.
And. I reiterate, spoilers now for the AT finale, which is. so good. god i cried multiple times during it. that may have been the sleep deprivation though.
Betty’s last hope to save Simon is an ancient god of chaos they used to study together called GOLB. At this point, magic has begun to corrupt her too, due to shenanigans with the Magic man turned Normal man from Mars. (it’s a whole thing) and she’s desperate! In the victory of the Candy Kingdom over Bubblegum’s evil uncle (unrelated to the Ice King plotline, don’t worry about it, Bubblegum did some war crimes) Betty summons GOLB. It’s going to destroy the whole world. Eventually, it ends up eating Betty, the Ice King, and Finn. In the process of “digesting” them, it reverts them back to who they were before the magic got to them. Betty becomes normal Betty, Simon becomes Simon, Finn is perfect so he’s fine. The crown also reverts back to it’s precursed state, able to be used for wishing again. Through the power of love and song, Jake the Dog and all their friends create a passage out of GOLB for them to escape through.
Betty stays behind. Because this show is about destroying yourself if it means saving the people you love. And as the walls close in, she wishes for a way to save Simon. She becomes GOLB. GOLBetty. Simon doesn’t turn back into the Ice King. But she can never be changed back. She leaves, and Simon loses her again. But he’s free. After a thousand years, he’s himself.
(The crown is then put on by Gunther the Penguin, who turns into the Ice Thing. Another version of the Ice King, who the gang are still friends with but who the framing device of two friends far in the future learning about the tale of the Candy Kingdom’s war informs us that his happiness couldn’t last forever. Eventually, all the characters die or part ways with him, and the Ice Thing goes back to being a wizard in the mountains causing problems, without even a piece of Simon buried deep within him to help. Because, you know, Adventure Time needs to break your heart even about this little penguin dude.)
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nicoledemera · 1 year
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Btw where are you watching fionna and cake on? and also does it take place post adventure time finale/do you need to have adventure time complerely finished to know whats going on? Becuae i might want to watch it but im just wondering
hbomax (its just called max now but idgaf)
and ummm well one of the main plot things is about something that happens in the final episode of adventure time. so like whike you dont have to watch all of it it’d probably best to watch at least most of it and also the last episode
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