#fuck u malenia

[theloathsometwinkeater]

me genuinely tweaking everytime i think about the fact malenia was cowardly enough to use her aeonia or whatever i dont give a shit and absolutely nuked caelid and radahn and caused the death of an entire continent

[nerice]

(SHOVES MESSMER IN A DITCH) OUTTA MY WAY GAYBOY WE’RE GETTING BLUE DANCER LORE

[toastsnaffler]

once again saved by elden ring 🙏

[kuromi-hoemie]

finished millicent's questline in elden ring 😔 girlll i was ROOTING for you 😭 i told myself then the Next Thing i was going to look for was whichever talisman greatly boosts incantations and at least it was the literal Next Thing i got after killing gowry. idk What Now but it was a fun interesting storyline.

fighting that thing in the pool of rot was sooo fucking awful though. shout out to that person in the comment section of the wiki that said just go back to the roots and cheese it bc REAL. i got slammed to death the first time and knocked off the cliff like 6 times before just looking up What To Do and settling for cheesing it from the roots. this area of the game in general was so hard 😵‍💫 love the lore around Malenia and Millicent n her sisters.

I'm abt to make dinner and think I'll watch a lore video abt them :3c

[sadlazzle]

i think i shot myself in the foot taking so much time to learn malenia’s battle as a ranged sorcery build cause now i jst can’t figure it with any other build

[cat-mermaid]

I was just talking to a friend of mine who still playing the DLC and I fucking was struck by a fucking galaxy brain theory

Remember good 'ol tragic Millicent? Remember her whole thing was that she was one of 5 "offshoots" that were born when Malenia did the big no fuck u to Radahn and fucked up Caelid?

Remember how at some point Milli says the following?

"There is something I must return to Malenia. The will that was once her own. The dignity, the sense of self, that allowed her to resist the call of the scarlet rot. The pride she abandoned, to meet Radahn's measure."

What if she meant that literally? That she literally is Malenia's dignity?

Shadow of the Erdtree is all about Miquella going around and shedding aspects of himself, fear love doubt and so on. Most people agree that St. Trina is the human manifestation of Miquella's love, so what if Millicent was the same?

Millicent is the human manifestation of Malenia's pride, and she was shed, just like Trina, when Mal decided to play dirty because she wanted to win at any cost

That includes Milli's sisters, I bet you they too are also aspects of Malenia's self, and when you fight her at the Haligtree, what you are actually fighting is a husk, a hallow imitation of what she used to be

Thats why she seems so out of it, she just wants to fight and win, thats all thats left of her :(

Milli wanted to return to Mal and merge back together, even if she didn't truly understand thats what she wanted, but alas she couldn't make it and Malenia was doomed to remain a husk of herself untill the very end

[art-from-within]

Radagon probably had the biggest “I could never be better than first elden lord” thoughts everyday marika let him swap bodies. Like think abt it. He becomes elden lord, but every one is still. BITCHINg about motherfucking GODFREY. The FIRST ELDEN CHAD. GET IT RADAGON. FIRST ELDEN C H A D. Even Miriel is confused as to how he came abt right? Like yea he was a champion…but the successor to the legend GODFREY? GOD in his name Godfrey? Ehhhhhhhhh you know the ER denizens was shitting tears everytime he walked anywhere. Betting u 100 mil runes ppl were crying abt Godfrey’s exile during his own crowning ceremony

Godfrey is so seductively astonishing in his bearing that he gets passes Radagon can only dream of. Godfrey is tarnished? Dgaf he is top tier. Godfrey grafts? (Serosh) what a madlad. Godfrey wants to genocide so bad he needs a beast to hold him back? That’s what makes him soooo cool. Then comes unkown radagon and all the colosseum fun leaves with Godfrey. And what does Radagon do? What is he cool with? “Magic maths (golden order fudamentalism)” oh. A fucking nerd.

Man becomes concious, right infront of him is a big Godfrey portrait that some dumbass stuck up. Marika probably has wet dreams about Godfrey still. Loud omens (ahem morgott ahem) singing abt Godfrey from the shunning grounds. Serosh symbol everywhere. People don’t remember seconds…they remember firsts. And its quite obvious the lands between still remembers. You have got godrick and his bannermen, well yea makes sense he is his descendant right? Then explain starscourge Radahn having more lions covering his body than red hair cells. Ranni probably hates his guts. Rykard resorts to blasphemy (also probably hates his guts.) Atleast he had malenia and miquella…for a while atleast until Miquella said “your maths aren’t mathing enough” and left him….

sucks to be radagon. But hey, he gets to selfcest atleast. Except Marika fucking hates his guts too because they are polar opposites.

“Hey babe-“

“LEAL hound of the GoLdEn OrDeR”

“Yea….(turns off)”

[miquella-everywhere]

Also you talked about how strange mogh kidnapping miquella is:

This is just my theory but the way I see it miquella charms mogh to gain a powerful follower. He might even serve as a symbol for other omens to rally. I don't think the kidnapping and the blood cult was the part of the plan at all. Mogh came up with that after coming into contact with the formless mother. To me it seems like the best explanation, no way miquella wanted to be separated from the haligtree the whole point of that was so he could break his curse but during the battle of aeonia while malenia was away mogh under the influence of an outer god takes miquella and ruins his plans. Evrything miquella does is shadow of the erdtree is then a final desperate attempt to succeed and return to haligtree as a god.

I prefer this theory way more that the ones that say Miquella wanted to be kidnapped.

The blood cult is 100% a Mohg thing Miquella probably had no had in that, and honestly if we take into consideration the way that Miqs charm works it's plausible to say the version of Mohg that we kill is like one of those dogs that has to be put on sedatives before they go to the vet/groomers. I would argue that Mohg was actually way worse and Miqs charm made him arguably tamer. But I don't think Miq using Mohg to rally the Omens is true because weirdly enough both at the Haligtree and the Mohgwyn Palace there is not a single Omen to be seen anywhere.

But here's the thing with the Kidnapping: The kidnapping was always up to furious debate within the community, and my go-to belief was that Mohg snatched Miquella while Malenia was away during the Shattering; but now with Freyjas account that Miquella actually appeared after the Battle of Aeonia to provide aid, this ROYALLY FUCKS the timeline of the kidnapping.

So then the DLC is trying to convince us that Miquella actually embedded himself into the Haligtree after Malenia peaced out with Scarlet Rot Itis and then was to just immediately be kidnapped by Mohg.... What the fuck is all of this???? LITERALLY WHAT WAS EVEN THE POINT OF EMBEDDING HIMSELF INTO THE HALIGTREE????

And honestly gets worse tho, because hell, with what they're implying apparently Miq went with Malenia to the Battle and returned to the Haligtree with her unconscious ass being carried by Finlay(WHICH MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE)

I just

OH AND MIQUELLA COULD APPARENTLY JUST CURE FREYJAS SCARLET ROT WHEN THE UNALLOYED NEEDLE WHICH WAS QUOTED AS NOT BEING A CURE FOR THE INCURABLE SCARLET ROT, COULD NOT CURE MILLICIENT AND IT COULDNT EVEN CURE MALENIA, AND YET MIQUELLA CAN CONTRADICTALLY C U R E F R E Y J A

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF UNALLOYED GOLD AT THIS POINT????

[miquellah]

sorry i honestly hate bitching about other people probably even more than u hate to see it. last time for a while. but i rly do wish that more people would realize that what they might think they hate about dlc lore is just something they made up in their head. or that someone else made up in their head

"man i hate how it turns out MIQUELLA was the one to make mohg kidnap him" they didn't say that actually

"man i hate how they made it so miquella wants to fuck radahn??" they didn't say that either

"i hate how they completely annulled the cool bond between malenia and miquella!!" nope! they sure didn't say that

even "yeah it's fucked up mohg had sex with his sleeping half-brother like that". it's pulled from one (1) line that is still reasonably obtuse in its implications, just widely accepted by many (and often just to be used for "jokes" made in poor taste!)

like. a lot of stuff is genuinely so obtuse and that is something that can very much be used to your advantage. so many interpretations could be pulled, so why lean into the directions that you hate? the ones told to you, and not your own? ESPECIALLY when it comes to miquella, you can either take things in good faith, or in bad faith. that really is up to you

if you enjoy him as more of a manipulative character, sure, go for it if that's your most enjoyed version. do you wish he was earnest in his motivations? honestly, yes, that does fit too. YOU are part of the experience! YOU can control what you take from the game itself! soulsbornes have always been leaning into open directions like this. so if the narrative gives you that much wiggle room, why not use it?

[lmaonade]

I think the Martyr Logarius fight sucks worse than Ludwig or Orphan, which bloodborne fight is the most painful 2 u

logarious was so fucking hard i feel you, but i do think oprhan is one of the hardest fromsoft bosses ever. that fight was my malenia back in the day, but i played it when the dlc came out at first. in hindsight it's probably not as hard as i remember

[katyspersonal]

Also, today me and @fantomette22 tried to defeat Malenia together but ended up getting our ass kicked many times (and then me having to leave)

I just don't even know why we suck at it SO much lmao gfhhhfh ;-; Using Frost does help, btw, but we still lack practice, both :U With how MUCH time we are spending with this woman, she can qualify as 5th member of the Lore Council 💀💀💀

1) Katya, the lore deep diver 2) Fantomette, the sweet summer child 3) Crow, the dealer of fucked up babygirls 4) Val, the emotional support Italian and 5) Malenia, blade of Miquella 💀💀💀

[ladygwyndolin]

Yeah the most popular fan take currently is that the vow was non consensual and pure evil Miquella is controlling poor uwu radahn because these guys don't want their fav to be an incestuous pedo warlord. It's so bad because they outright refuse to believe anything freyja says on the basis that "she isn't radahn" as if her being in his inner circle means nothing, all while taking ansbach word for word even though he also was only in mohgs inner circle and is not mohg himself therefore by their logic is also not completely trustworthy. It's so dumb because the final cutscene spelled it all out and was hilariously in your face to the point that I rolled my eyes about it because we could've gotten anything else we didn't already know but apparently shame on me for expecting radahn fanboys to have literacy because a majority still didn't get it. Why would Miquella beg Radahn to be his consort in the vision and for him to honor the vow if it all was all one-sided, in general why would he be lying to himself? The final fight labeling radahn as his promised consort is also pure evidence for it. Idk I guess the reality is now setting in for them that the price of prime radahn was the complete butchering of his character so they're now scrambling for coping theories

Man I had a whole long winded response to this prepared ready to talk about shallow critique and stuff but honestly there isn't really any point to it when it boils down to radahn fans being fucking cringe reddit morons who are only into radahn because he's simple enough to turn into a gigachad meme and love coping with malenia being stronger than them by being misogynistic about it so ofc they're gonna be stupid here. Lore only matters when it's surface level shit that u can use to make ur fun guts guy cooler. I hate men

[kuromi-hoemie]

bleh meetings until 3 today 😵‍💫

[sadlazzle]

apparently my entire personality as a souls fan is just to be a contrarian. whole fandom loves it ? well i guess i hate it then

[cat-mermaid]

Ok so ya'll know how I wrote this here theory about Malenia and Millicent?

WELL I was watching this video by Zullie the Witch-

-and holy shit I think she just threw the doors open on a reason why Godwyn seems to be spreading through the land like a tumor.

Just like how I think that Millicent and her sisters are to Malenia what St. Trina is to Miquella AND what Radagon is to Marika...

I think that Godwyn is mindlessly splitting off "aspects" of himself who, since his soul was killed, are also just empty husks

This all goes back to how Marika, being a Shaman(and a Numen AND an Empyrean and seemly a whole buncha other things) has the ability to both meld her body (like the grafting done by Godrick) with others and also to posses "other selves" like Radagon

Check this out:

I really think these "cadaver surrogates" are the same thing as whats going on with Millicent/Malenia + Trina/Miquella, its just that since ol Goddy is just a vegetable now-

and you can take that literally wat with how he's hijacked the roots of the erdtree to spread himself across the land

-his living demigod body is just firing off his godly powers like a glitching machine repeating the same processes because of a coding error or what have you

these are just really shitty attempts of his power to "split", manifesting itself as weird fungus tumor death growths that taint everything....

....or you could say that they're "melding" with other parts of the land between:

anyway thats wat I've had cooking in my skull for a week!

tank u 4 attending my ted talk

[questionablepastries]

Wahoo I beat armored core (just now now!) thoughts below (and spoilers of course)

I can’t believe they made me fight an upgraded balteus lmao but what balteus wasn’t ready for was an upgraded ME 😈

Good game! Visually very very pretty to look at, mentally I’m clapping a lot at the credits rn lol

And the choices the game made me do lol aaaaaghhh. I almost considered putting the game down for the day when it asked me to betray carla. Same thing with eliminating G1 Michigan, only because I thought VIII Pater was my friend (turns out he’s sick in da head!! Scary guy. Really lives up to his AC name “dual nature” whew) less messed up arquebus members the better. In the end I went with ayre all the way but not because I like ayre but because of 2 things

1) carla she did try to kill me once (she made up for it by saving my ass out of prison tho)

2) (the more important reason why I sided with Ayres idea) — who knows what the ecosystem of the planet would be like with the complete removal of coral, not to mention coral is semi sentient so it’d be like super massacre if I went with Carla (and Walters) idea of destroying it all. ALSO, the destruction of the giant space ship crashing into that coral harvesting place, like what would life be like for the rubiconians? Even worse? Nobody has their interests in minds bc as far as they’re concerned they’re always caught in the middle of some corporation war, so if I sided with Carla it’d be adding fuel to that corporation war fire :(

Like ayre says at the end though, I’m sure we can avoid a fires of ibis situation 2.0 if we work really hard together. 621 is a human that didn’t lose their mind completely after contact with coral voices and maybe it has to do with the fact that they’re a fourth generation human (since the later generations worked out the kinks of not having to hear coral anymore)

Also. During the very sad heartbreaking (for me) killing carla mission, do u know how excited I was to beat the shit out of snail lmao

After reading that his augmentations were only perfected thanks to who knows how many innocent deaths, and his mind re-education shenanigans I’ve hated his ass since DAY ONE. Even IF he’s a sassy funny guy

Ok the ps just told me the trophy for this ending is called liberator of rubricon. Whatever ending that is lol idk what ppl are calling it

God I already miss Walter why’d they make me kill him too lol

ON THAT NOTE I MISS RUSTY I THINK WALTER MAY HAVE KILLED HIM. I’m gonna stick to anime rules for this one and that’s “no body seen no death” yup rusty is still out there (<- copium)

Oh wow ok I guess NG+ just starts like that huh, that’s ok w me I’ll do a NG+ run just to see the other endings, they better not make me actually kill rusty tho that’d break my heart more than it did to take out carla and chatty : (

Also pvp is fun but I’m ok at it lol I keep losing a ton but I’ve had a couple of close matches and won like 4 matches so far

Oh right about snail tho, back in the Carla mission? I was talking mad shit while fighting him like “I ALREADY BEAT YOUR DATA IN THE ARENA YOU THINK YOURE HOT SHIT??” that sorta thing. And u know how dissapointed I was that I didn’t kill him right then and there? His ass escaped that ass beating. Don’t matter tho I terminated his ass for good when he was riding that toddler ass upgraded baby chair balteus 2.0

Idk how from soft does it but they keep making these super super climatic boss fights and super fucking awesome attack patterns that are both visually appealing and difficult to evade/survive but when you do it’s like you’re really in the fight in that moment it’s awesome :) this happened with balteus, balteus 2 purple laser moment, and the fuckinnggggg icewormmmm, malenia elden ring comes to mind (alongside demon souls king of storm)

And I can’t believe they got me with the sekiro monkey “it’s not dead! It’s getting up again!” Moment too god damn that flying boss whew, sad the game wouldn’t let me use that boss’ sweet ass wings as a part to equip :(

Rusty really warmed up to me, initially I was a hater because his ass was always setting me up with these missions that always had an extra lil spice in them meant to kill me or set me up in some way (probably arquebus’ fault) but he…. Waghhhggg………”the first to join” ok cool….ty for being so eager to reunite with me rusty…I honestly thought he was dead after the ice worm mission….and the fucking line he says “there’s only one person who can keep up with me” with 621 in on the comm to listen in on….what are we…….(we’re buddies…)

Great game. And amazing cast of characters, like maybe it’s the voice acting that really nailed it but for me to care about a bunch of people (g1 Michigan…..) that you never actually see in game and only hear is wild lol

I do not care for ayre tho. I’m sorry I’m a hater, she always said some common sense stuff like “remember to dodge” baby we been on how many missions together now please. If she was a deep voiced lady I would’ve been on my hands and knees tho, and if she had a male voice I’d be even worse lol

Cortana ass!!!! Anyways cutest ayre moment was 621 and her watching these giant nuke missles hit a massive structure and she’s like (cutely) “they’re really like fireworks” & I had to laugh and be like we gotta get u some real fireworks ayre they don’t look like this gsvdvdvd

Right and do u know how much I was pogging when the fake raven or Rather the Real Raven showed up??? Damn what was that guys situation about and their handler too? Hmmmmm (dlc potential?)

Fun ass game! Slow start but momentum wise it keeps speeding up and then the end is like WHAM did ya like it and I gotta be like YEAH. I DID. Now I have the urge to play the other endings in ng+ since my AC is geared the fuck up to handle anything I feel like. Kinda wish the pacing at the start stayed the whole way as in slow pacing the entire game with the game letting me kill more shounen protagonist types lol (although that would mean killing ppl like Rusty hmmm my sadism for wanting more murder of naive protagonist types and love for rusty is like oil and water when it comes to that idea lol)

One complaint tho just one, the ost can be somewhat lacking. It has its moments tho!! There’s like 3 tracks that really kill it, and they’re at important moments too. Iceworm, balteus 2.0/snail showdown, and Carla fight are good. The rest went over my head tho sowwy

Now that I’ve achieved credits in this game im a certified armored core fan (even tho this is my first one) and I’m glad this game is getting attention! I really hope they release more AC games bc this kicked ass, maybe they can take a break before taking that on though, because every single mission is pretty breath taking visually, and MASSIVE in terms of sheer size sometimes like damn. Lots of love!