#futct lore

[meat-wentz]

FOB LORE POST Pt. 2

this one is mainly links, plus resources at the end for more in depth dives.

some cool pre-fob/outside fob links:

arma angelus livejournal

where sleeplessness is rest from nightmares (arma album playlist, heychris is working at the moment to get these on spotify)

the grave end of the shovel (arma EP)

last arma show

first novena show (pre-arma arma angelus)

racetraitor "broken dust" ft. a young pete and a young andy

another one

racetraitor 2019

racetraitor 2022

interview with mani mostofi 2018

now some general lore, i'll bold the ones that are referenced most often:

"The Story" 2004 (from My Heart Will Always Be the B-Side to My Tongue dvd)

"Cutting Room Floor" (LOTS of classic moments in this, joe sleeping in a cage, patrick drinking garlic butter, dunking his head in a pool, getting nervous and shaking pete's hand, etc)

extra bits sorry this literally opens with a dirty toilet

the story behind the album cover (patrick, joe and pete all lived in a shitty apartment together, where the cover of tttyg was shot on their broken couch, i promise this link is so much more informative these are just the basics)

take this to your apartment pt. 1 (fall out boy return to the apartment)

take this to your apartment pt. 2

a little reflection on the van accident

notes between patrick and joe (resolution by pete)

patrick in high school

first interview

HALLOWEEN 2003 (THE PRIEST SHOW)

the hollister show (includes pete jumping off the roof with an umbrella, van tour, andy "what's goin' on guys" which is important TO ME)

2003 acoustic set (IMPORTANT TO ME)

the hollister show pt. 2 (the show, which is fucking insane, sweater, shorts and black socks mention, borders mention, patrick drinking half a bottle of tobasco, pete getting tazed, first ??? mention of jason which will be expanded upon later)

i'm not putting release the bats lmao that's your job, warning it's gross, it's a will-tester for sure.

but you do get bedussey, it's like, on the syllabus. there will be a test.

FOBR bio during futct

the jason interview

patrick and pete interview for the documentary bastards of young (2005)

behind the scenes AOL

TRL debut

nintendo ds makes me forget that i don't have any friends

mtv vma performance of sugar (iconic because of the uniforms)

mtv2 video awards arrival

mtv2 win

warped diary (fob did warped in a fucking van, which is hardcore af)

behind the scenes sugar we're going down

behind the scenes dance dance

behind the scenes a little less 16 candles

fuse rock star guide (IMPORTANT TO ME)

you look good in everything honey

behind the scenes live in phoenix

don't google yourself

you look like the unabomber

wind power

fall out boy gets uncomfortable

pete's do's and don'ts for valentine's day

moustachette

world's most in depth interview

gabe bothering patrick with socks and sandals

piss roulette

IMPORTANT PATRICK VIDEO TO ME (black clouds and underdogs tour)

gay above the belt

it's not a hot girl

the backpack

mark hoppus shaves pete's head (death of emo)

drum battle and this view of patrick

andy drum solo (live in phoenix)

thanks pete

boys of zummer

happy paintings

coffee's for closers dance

YBC commentary by patrick and pete

family feud

just a few reading extras because i'm tired and i've worked on this for so long i'm going crosseyed:

pete/patrick huge primer

interviews

what a catch donnie songfacts page

in defense of folie a deux

(btw patrick does a different song every intro for i hate myself, also it's very healing please listen to all 6 episodes)

Loud and Sad Radio (pete podcast)

@stumpomatic-blog and @fobomatic-blog are both archival projects to document the band

here's a giant video vault

peachy.stump on instagram, invaluable resource for updates, throwbacks and all the little tidbits you could want.

[thekidsarentalright]

hi! i know this is a super broad question but i was wondering if you had any idea where to start with fob lore? i've been a fan for years but i never really got deep into the lore, so i was wondering how to start because there is so much history lol

hi!! ooo this is such a good question!! i'm about to throw a lot of resources at you the covers a breadth of their history, all being good places to start learning about stuff in my opinion, and hopefully some of it helps!! (under the cut so this isn't super long and annoying lol):

none of this rocks- if you can afford to buy the book, and care to read about Joe's life mainly, it gives Very good, primary details of fob's inception and lore!

rolling stone article- if you Cannot afford to buy the book, or don't wanna read it for whatever reason, this rolling stone article takes an excerpt from the book about how fob formed (from Joe's perspective of course)!

my heart will always be the b-side dvd- essentially speaks on a lot of the stuff from above, but all 4 of them are in it and it gives insight into what they were up to post-tttyg, pre-futct!

early srar era interview- not Super lore heavy, but they talk about the hiatus and how coming off of it was for them/how it felt (was one of the first interviews of theirs i watched that helped me build my knowledge so. thought i'd throw it in)

fob fan wiki- honestly, this is probably one of the best most comprehensive primers on fob you could ever read. it goes over information from every single album cycle, as well as info on their musical inspiration, etc. if you don't mind reading a lot, or have any particular era you wanna know more about, this is great!

young blood chronicles- incase you haven't watched it, figured i'd throw it in! along with the bonus of the commentary on it!

bests & worsts interviews (parts 1, 2, 3, 4)- these interviews are referenced often enough i feel they're lore now lol, also just really enjoyable to watch!

take this to your apartment (parts 1 & 2)- more about tttyg era, but specifically how they lived together!

jason interview- referenced enough to include it. pete being silly

moustachette- short film. thing. patrick did and pete's in it and it's kinda iconic tbh

bedussey- another. uh. short film? pete and patrick are dumb

stumpomatic & fobomatic blogs- for pictures of them throughout the eras, as well as some lore filled posts here and there, you genuinely cannot go any better than these blogs. incredible archives of photos! That is all i can think of off the top of my head right now that best encapsulate their lore, for the most part! if there's anything more specific you'd like links to or to know about, absolutely feel free to ask!!! i love talking about them, clearly!!!

[knifetrickkk]

hey can someone pls infodump futct fall out boy lore on me I’m preparing to write a fanfic and I best consume information in the form of tumblr users being excited about something

[corktreesys]

Personally I think futct should've had lore. But I mean proper lore like in "Save Rock and Roll" not multiple snippets that sort of connect. Not to say we aren't making up our own little lore, but you know.

[sonofanactuallyveryniceperson]

is this too late I'd be very curious to hear your thoughts about themes on ioh

oh so you got me thinking!

Pete has said before that this album feels like nighttime. I agree. It feels like getting home from a party at 2am, still kind of tipsy and drifting.

I think it’s very easy to say that Infinity On High is about fame, and then just leave it there. You wouldn’t be wrong; but we’ve got more ground to cover.

Ever since futct, fob has had a bone to pick with the idea of fame (e.g. the album literally starts with the sound of ambient camera shutters). From Under The Cork Tree, Infinity On High, and Folie à Deux have always felt almost like a trilogy to me, in that regard. While ‘Cork Tree’ feels like the band’s introduction to the machinations of fame, and Folie is a definite exploration of the aftermath... Infinity On High is almost euphorically self-aware. Like it knows where it’s headed, but it just can’t stop. IOH is about the best part of fame: the midpoint. It’s about how, if you’re not careful, you’ll get caught in the dream and the dazzle of it. The high, if you will.

Despite that, it really is an album that decries everything about the industry machine. It’s a record that spends a lot of time screaming about how nothing is real, everyone is fake, and nothing can be trusted. The first three songs of the album (Thriller, The Take Over, and Arms Race) all have that tongue-in-cheek take on the band’s success: “I can take your problems away with a nod and a wave” / “Don’t pretend you’ll ever forget about me” / “As long as the room keeps singing / That’s just the business I’m in”.

However, the next three songs are interspersed with honest and incredibly visceral moments of sincerity (I’m like a Lawyer, Hum Hallelujah, Golden). Within the scope of the rest of the album, these songs feel like a moment of clarity. Like being lucid, before you’re swept back up in the headrush of being a fucking rockstar. The horror of being the next big thing.

For a while, I thought there might have been something significant about these trios of songs, but neither the original record — nor the deluxe album —are divisible by three. So, bummer. No cool lore there. There are, however, 14 songs on the original album. There’s nothing super significant about that except for the fact that it’s a very popular number within the bible: whether its 14 rains, 14 lambs, 14 plagues, 14 rams, 14 cubits, or 14 wives. There’s 24 mentions of the number within the bible. The lamb thing is fun, though. Hey Franklin!

But that’s my segue: religion in ioh. As we know, Pete loves a little bit of Catholic guilt. Uhhh it’s definitely there. It’s been talked about before. Lots of people have discussed it. But I would say that death, as a theme, is even more present than religion.

Pete, in particular, has always written about fame and death as though intertwined, like they can’t be explored separately. Like they’re consequences of each other, no matter which comes first. Which I suppose is interesting in the context of this album, named Infinity On High, after a passage from Vincent Van Gogh’s letters. Van Gogh’s story is so impactful because his artwork didn’t garner success until after he died. In fact, his death was the thing that skyrocketed his fame. It wouldn’t surprise me if this reference to Van Gogh is another indirect critique of the fickle nature of fame.

At the end of the day, I think the most prominent — yet somehow under-addressed — theme in ioh is love. The opening track, ‘Thriller’, is almost explicitly a love letter to the fans. Love is mentioned numerous times throughout the lyrics of ioh:

“Love songs for the genuinely cunning” / “I love a tree I used to lay beneath” / “Better off as lovers” / “This is a love song in my own way” / “I’ve loved everything about you that hurts” / “I know I’m supposed to love you” / “All the boys who the dance floor didn’t love” / “I thought I loved you, it was just how you looked in the light” / “And all the lovers with no time for me” / “Collecting page six lovers” / “Oh, put love on hold” /

Within Infinity On High, love is something that you give to the people who got you this far. Love is presented as something foreign. Love is something that you buy. Love is something that you can never have. Maybe that’s why it’s widely regarded as fob’s most beloved album, because that’s what it’s about, at the end of the day.

Love is fame, and fame is death. Easy as that.

[thehigh-waytohell]

every time I see you on my dash I feel compelled to shower you with praises and today's no different.

The way you've constructed this entire story and universe, in such a way that every single character has a unique personality and interesting backstory (even when it's not expanded upon for much) is show of how skilled a writer you are. I've seen so many hugely successful book/tv/movie series that don't have a cast even half as compelling as thwth's, and that's talking both main and side characters.

Also, the worldbuilding, the lore and how it's been foreshadowed and built up over time. Nothing new that shows up feels out of place or unrealistic for the world that's been set up, every new development feels like the perfect natural progression of events.

And the character growth, and the dynamics, and the action, and the scenery and the humor. Everything in this fic is just incredible, you deserve every ounce of recognition you've got and more.

Sorry to suddenly dump an entire love letter to your writing out of nowhere, but I've following this story for around 5 years now (started around futct season) and even though I never read other fob fics anymore I still tune in without fail to read every new update you put out.

I hope everything goes well with the job search, and I wish all the best to you and your partner!!

oh my gosh, this is so sweet, i don't even know where to start!! This is just so well-thought out and kind, I guess all i can say is thank you <3 I'm glad you've been enjoying it, and I hope you continue to do so going forward!

[falloutboywife]

do u have any fob fic recs?

HEWWO YES i have a fuckton of fics to rec, i mostly just read peterick ones (i can’t find a lot of wentzporta or the rarest of rarepairs: stumporta, but i wanna start seeing if i can find any good trohley or joetrick fics) but i have an INSANE amount that i can suggest, i’ll link them and then offer a summary and tags for the content.

disclaimer: i don’t know if you were asking for nsfw fics but that’s like. all that i ever read unless it’s a REALLY good fic or character study or things like that. i’m also gonna warn that some of these are very dark because i like stories that tackle dark themes and a lot of them uh. let’s just say i like tttyg and futct a lot because i love the lore and dynamics surrounding the band in its early days so the eras i like to read fics about will reflect that

there are some in this list that are decidedly more normal than others, and even if some of the tags i mention sound like the fic is gonna be messed up, i can assure you there are way more fics lighter in tone than others in this list. like if a fic is BAD i mention it

I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE IF THIS ISN’T WHAT YOU WERE ASKING also these are in the order that i was able to find them so the quality/how much i like it isn’t in order

https://adellyna.livejournal.com/358618.html this one is about pete letting patrick drink for his seventeeth birthday, warnings for underage up the wazoo

https://adellyna.livejournal.com/355836.html patricksitting is like, THE peterick fic it’s about pete being patrick’s babysitter while his parents are out of town, again underage tag

https://adellyna.livejournal.com/350184.html ANOTHER fic about pete letting underage patrick drink but this time? pete’s recording him. warnings for underage shit and potential dubcon (i wouldn’t call it that bc it’s not how i interpreted it but the author tagged it, so)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/254157 this is a dance dance au where patrick fucks nerd!pete

https://archiveofourown.org/works/1045467 this fic is SO good it’s about the time where pete and patrick got into that really bad fight behind the convenience store while on tour, the one where pete choked patrick so hard he couldn’t sing the next day, this one has like. fight sex i guess is the term. i guess you could call this a darkfic

https://archiveofourown.org/works/522666 this is one of my favorites, it’s about pete kidnapping babystump and patrick developing stockholm syndrome but i PROMISE it is way more heartwarming than that, it’s not a hardcore kidnapping darkfic i swear. underage warning WOW THERE’S A LOT OF THESE

https://archiveofourown.org/works/239403 this is one of the funniest fucking fics i ever read, the premise is that pete pretends to be patrick’s boyfriend to piss patrick’s parents off. underage warning yet again

https://archiveofourown.org/works/25420678 this one is short but literally anything by this author is great, this is @castleinthsky here on tumblr. wilson is a fantastic author and i wish she wrote more, i’d literally read a novel if she wrote it, same with adellyna on lj. this is about pete lusting after patrick but it’s all just him masturbating to the idea of him, underage warning YET AGAIN

https://archiveofourown.org/works/158907 this one is about pete and patrick right after a show fucking in one of the hallways

https://archiveofourown.org/works/1069202 OH GOD THIS ONE IS SO FUCKING HOT this is one where pete is super controlling over patrick during sex he acts like a fucking scumbag it’s SO sexy but The Ending Will Warm Your Heart. i know this one is van days so it MIGHT be underage because i’m just a fucking creep i guess

https://archiveofourown.org/works/443472 okay this is one of my favorite fics of all time, this is part two in a series the author wrote about the idea of patrick having a twin brother, the first one is shorter and just introduces you to the idea but the second one is a fully fleshed out story and i love it so fucking much, you should seriously check this one out because this is one of the best fics out there period. warning for underage and incest YES I’M AWARE OF WHAT I’M LINKING PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK

inb4 “nyan do you read any fics that aren’t weird as shit” PLEASE I JUST WANNA BE HAPPY

https://archiveofourown.org/works/9871037 this is also by castleinthsky and it’s a lot more tame than what i linked before, this is just a cute 2008 fic where they’re on their way to the next town at night and patrick is drunk in the back with pete

https://archiveofourown.org/works/4373366 okay this one is a double whammy and also one of my favorite aus, this is 2011 patrick and 2007 pete. i LOVE the idea of different eras with each other, like i love the idea of post-hiatus pete and patrick ganging up on one of their younger selves and this one specifically is 2011 trick with 2007 pete. the same author ALSO wrote...

https://archiveofourown.org/works/4168323 this, which is literally just post-hiatus pete and patrick fucking babystump. it is so goddamn good warnings for selfcest and underage yaddah yaddah you get the point by now

https://archiveofourown.org/works/24333673 this is like the creepiest fic on this list, it’s straight up just pete being a creep (i loooove creepy pete so much if you haven’t noticed) and hypersexualizing van days trick and i feel like at this point i don’t need to warn you what’s in it

https://archiveofourown.org/works/1163036 this is just really rough peterick sex but i also like stories where patrick is a fucking violent bitch so i’m throwing it in here. i love brattystump so much

https://archiveofourown.org/works/4307196 this is a two-part series that is also, that’s right, about patrick starring in a sex tape but this time instead of his consent being very dubious, he’s doing it intentionally as a gift for pete. i think patrick is 17 in this

i am deeply considering not even posting this list at this point because of how many times i’ve used the term “underage” to describe one of these. i swear to god it’s not how it looks

https://archiveofourown.org/works/20685 OKAY. BEWENTZED. THIS IS MY NUMBER ONE FAVORITE PETERICK FIC AND IT’S ONE OF MY FAVORITE FICS OF ALL TIME it’s like this REALLY long form bewitched au sort of thing where pete is the literal devil and he gives patrick seven wishes, but each wish patrick makes is turned into a lesson about how he can’t force friendships or fame or success and pete twists them in a way that backfires in his face. this is seriously one of the best fucking fics i’ve ever read and even though patrick is in high school in this PLEASE ignore that if that squicks you out because this fic is fucking legendary. this and patricksitting are CRUCIAL to the peterick extended universe

https://archiveofourown.org/works/32760 this is a short one where patrick needs to get laid but the only person around who can do it is pete because joe won’t make a direct offer and he’s pretty sure andy is far from interested

https://archiveofourown.org/works/335389 eden burns is another legendary fic that’s about pete treating patrick like shit as the two are growing up together, this has triggers up the fucking ass so i’d really suggest reading the tags and summary before reading this but it deals heavily with the psychological aspects of molestation rather than just as a kink thing. it’s THAT kind of dark fic i fucking love it i love looking completely insane

https://jamjar.livejournal.com/99731.html OKAY A FIC WHERE IT’S NOT PATRICK THAT’S IN HIGH SCHOOL FOR ONCE this is an age reversal fic and while it doesn’t explore the potential of the idea as much as i’d like it’s still a really good read, it’s about patrick and pete switching ages and it builds an entire setting around that, where pete goes to high school with joe and patrick is trying to establish himself as a musician with andy. pete is a very angsty and emotional teen in this it’s so good

https://swear-jar.livejournal.com/697877.html OH THIS IS A FIC I SERIOUSLY JUST DISCOVERED this one is sooooo fucking hot it’s so weird, it really elaborates on when pete was unmedicated when he was younger so the logic in this one is super fun to figure out. i love fics that try their own interpretation of pete when he was unmedicated and unstable because it’s so fascinating trying to explore his psychology in a safe and creative environment, and i relate to a lot of stories like these because i have bipolar like pete and when it was unmedicated while i was younger it destroyed my fucking life so i understand a lot of the things he used to do or say about himself, anyway in this fic he jerks off to patrick in his sleep without him knowing so warnings for that and for vomit. i wouldn’t call this a darkfic just really bizarre and i love it for that

https://giddygeek.livejournal.com/138523.html and this is the last rec i have for now, it’s another dance dance au where both pete and patrick gang up on nerd patrick and it’s very cute

please don’t be mean to me i pay my taxes on time and i vote democrat and bernie should have won the nomination instead of biden