#general robotnik post

[robotnik-apologist]

Was listening to Tear you Apart by She wants revenge and it kinda gave me eggman vibes

Like the whole, ignores feelings first and then it explodes inside him

Do you think he'd get obsessive?

ohhhh yeah, he'd 100% be obsessive after denying himself for so long. i love eggman, but his emotional maturity is... lacking, to put it mildly - if he wants something and doesn't get it, whether due to failings or simple self-discipline, it takes a toll. hence why he's so obsessed with getting rid of sonic when bro isn't even actively doing anything 💔

as for releasing all of that pressure, i don't think it would be all that huge or extravagant - more of a mental crash out that manifests in him literally not being able to leave your side. it'll take him awhile to openly admit his attraction, either way - he's the kinda guy to confess to having a crush on a person he's been dating for well over a year 💀

his obsession would probably chill out after he finally interacts with the object of his attraction in a romantic manner - i think a kiss on the cheek would probably chill bro out lmfao. eggman has come to appreciate the small victories after years of dealing with sonic.

and i use the word 'obsession' lightly - i don't think he'd be the type to enter stalker territory or anything like that. he copes with his emotions and his denial thereof by learning as much about you as he can, but even he has enough decorum to know when his 'intense observation and research' turns into genuine creeping.

is he possessive? 100%. but if he hasn't admitted to his feelings and is genuinely attracted to you beyond physical appearance, he's not going to try and keep you from doing your own thing (seeing other people, basically). he respects you too much to stoop to that level, as weird as it sounds.

i know a lot of people enjoy that 'stalker dark romance' vibe but i honestly don't see eggman (modern, at least,) falling into that trope. his feelings will definitely eat at him, but i don't foresee him just losing all control and going apeshit 💀

in the song itself, though (and forgive me if i'm incorrect), it focuses a lot more on the yearning and need for another, which does suit eggman quite well, imo.

[humming-fly]

I love how Gerald was trying to keep Shadow from spoiling anything about the future meanwhile literally everything Shadow says and does around Maria is the biggest death flag ever

[cheysu1i]

Gang I think they deserved a Real Hug

[ohmygawditssunnyout]

[cloud-ya]

sobbing.....her little brother is her guardian angel

[couch-house]

"Do you know why I named you Mr. Incredible? It's because you love your family :)" -- Was honestly expecting a scene like this toward the end, but maybe we didn't need THAT much emotional excess. Which is to say, it's so perfect. It's so good. Shadow da freaking hedgehog......

[breadbugg]

who does bro think he is 💀

[justarandomart]

Ark siblings lyric comic

you can find the video version of this here

all images under the cut :)

thanks for looking :)

[fettiowi]

The robotniks referring to their creations as their children...

[glitchedcosmos]

Can we talk about this? Because I just gotta.

I feel like he needed to hear these words so much, he needed to hear that he’s not a beacon of darkness and destruction, that he can find the light, he can spread light and he absolutely needed to hear Maria tell him she wants him to be happy. He needed to hear that without it being a trick of the mind, or a dream for once, he needed it to feel real and it did.

And those words from Gerald, I think he needed to hear that too, that someone who took part in carving his dark path, was sorry for it, that even though it was his fault, regardless of intentions, he was sorry that , this, was the path he put him on, I feel like shadow needed to hear that, that he was sorry for his fate, but proud of him for how he walked it, and proud of him for how he fights. Saying he believes in him ( calling him son , he and Maria are such cannon siblings it’s crazy), I feel like he needed to hear these things, and remember every word.

And in return he made a new promise to her, he’s gonna fight, as a shadow with light in his heart, with her wish, being his light.

He absolutely needed to hear those words from his family.

[robotnik-apologist]

Dr. Robotnik/Eggman in Regards to Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD):

Something I haven't seen talked about a lot in the larger Sonic fandom is this topic - though, as a woman with autism, I've brought it upon myself to write a small collective discussion about the common traits of ASD that Robotnik displays across various continuities. As with all of my other posts, everything said here is up for discussion - questions, comments, elaborations... regardless of what it is, feel free to drop it in my asks inbox.

Disclaimer: No, I am not using ASD to excuse any of Robotnik's actions, regardless of the media. If you haven't seen my page before, I assure you that my blog name is a joke.

This topic as a whole might sound silly, given how often autism is dumbed down in media. Robotnik wasn't written with ASD in mind, I'm sure - but he makes for surprisingly accurate representation.

(And for God's sake, not every character meant to represent a minority has to be morally good! Real representation is acknowledging that a character is a minority whilst also writing them as a genuine human being who isn't defined by that sole trait.)

Outside of that tangent, cough cough, not only is ASD sorely lacking in matters of representation for people with high-functioning variations, but it's often written in highly infantilizing ways, too.

So why do I personally believe Robotnik has some form of ASD?

There are a variety of reasons, but let's start with one that's a key component of his character: his intellect. We admittedly don't know much about the causes of ASD or the causes of high intelligence/IQ, but there is a correlative (though not necessarily causative) relationship between the two. Regardless of the theories, statistically people with high-functioning ASD are proportionately more likely to be geniuses (as defined by the American psychologist Lewis M. Terman, who set the IQ for “potential genius” at 140 and above). It's stated countless times across various kinds of media that Robotnik has an IQ around 300, which far exceeds the 'genius' quota.

This is going to get very technical from here (until I move onto the next category) so feel free to skip to that point. The average IQ test contains four kinds of questions: verbal comprehension, perceptual reasoning, working memory, and processing speed. More specifically, things such as pattern recognition and comprehension can also appear as subcategories. In high-functioning ASD, it's very common for individuals to experience heightened abilities in these categories, which leads to the overall higher average IQ, and therefore the qualification of genius being somewhat correlated with ASD. This isn't to imply that every person with ASD is a genius or vice versa, but rather that ASD changes the way a person's brain works. If the wires cross in just the right way, sometimes you end up with a genius (albeit realistically not as extreme as 300. that's ridiculous.).

For my next reason, I present hyperfixation. In almost every StH media, there are moments therein where Robotnik seems genuinely ready to risk his own life or the lives of his allies if it means eliminating Sonic. Why would a man built on logical reasoning do such a thing? It's simple - the prospect of winning against the object of his fixation is an instant dopamine rush. Dopamine and serotonin receptors are often 'messed up' in people with mental conditions such as ASD or AD(H)D, which leads to the formation of hyperfixations - it's simply a focus on the constant source of the chemical.

Now, it's reasonable to ask: why is he fixated on Sonic? Hell if I know. It's like asking why I'm so fixated on Robotnik. Sometimes logic doesn't need to explain everything, though that probably seems ironic in a post like this. As food for thought, though, Robotnik is a scientist in every definition of the word - and Sonic regularly defies basically every law of multiple studies of science. If I had built my life around the understand of these rules, only to have them all collapse because of one random teenager, I would probably be a little obsessed, too.

Now, my third reason for this is routine. ASD is known for manifesting as a heavy reliance on routines and familiarity. This can be found in COUNTLESS places, including the clothes that he wears. Now, yes, I understand that it's super common for cartoon/video game characters to wear the same outfit simply because nobody has the time to design a new outfit for each episode, installment, or issue that a character appears in. But in some contexts, I think it could be argued that Robotnik chooses to wear the same outfit because he's simply adjusted to them - though I'll return to this topic later. I think it's also arguable that Robotnik's focus on Sonic is built around routine - even if it's played as a joke. Once again, I'm aware that it's simply because of the often episodic nature of StH media, but it's undeniable that Robotnik is often depicted as doing the same thing every day with slight variations when necessary.

My fourth reason is empathy. People with ASD can often feel disconnected from others simply because they don't feel like they know the same 'moral code' that appears to be almost programmed into others. They may not understand why familial love is so commonplace, for example, which I think could be applied to Robotnik's lack of compassion towards Snively in SatAM and Archie (not defending it, of course, but it's definitely a possible cause).

This is also strongly connected to my next point, which is Robotnik's understanding of emotion. He's often depicted as immature in many aspects, which is fairly common for those with ASD - they often appear to be immature in the eyes of people who don't fully understand ASD. Not only this, but Robotnik is a master manipulator - he understands conversation incredibly well. Now, this might seem to detract from the point that I believe he has ASD, but it's quite the opposite. To become a master manipulator, one must study conversation, cultural norms, body language, and a variety of other things. But for people with ASD, studying these things is commonplace so that they can imitate what is deemed as 'normal' behavior - or, in other words, so that they can mask. With a person that has the intellect of Robotnik, it's reasonable to believe that this intimate understanding of conversation and persuasion could easily be twisted into manipulation.

Finally, though least convincingly, is sensory. It should go unspoken that ASD interferes with the sensory experiences of the brain and the body. As I mentioned earlier, Robotnik's consistent wardrobe is an example of satisfying a sensory need - and can even be found in the way that he dresses when he's not in his typical outfit. Take his racing outfit, for example - it very closely resembles his usual attire, at least in a material sense. People with ASD usually prefer/find certain materials or styles of clothing to be more comfortable than others. Hell, you could even argue that his (comically-intended) obsession with eggs is a sensory issue. You could also argue that he's unaware of his own strength, to an extent, given the multiple times that it's displayed across various medias. But his consistency in his grooming (mustache lol), clothing, routines, and other things all suggest that he's very aware of his own sensory needs.

Thanks for reading to the end of my crackpot theory, lmao. Like I said, I'm always up for discussion. Below here, I'm just linking to a few sources in case anyone wants to read more about my justifications for this post, or just about ASD and IQ tests in general!

[robiinurheart33]

“It didn’t take him long to find Earth 138’s Stone and Robotnik; their severe loathing of each other had prompted Stone to become a supervillain in his own right. He and Robotnik 138 were locked in an epic battle that was razing most of New York City in its wake. Drone fought drone; robot battled robot; civilians fled for their lives; and, in the middle of the destruction, Stone and Robotnik traded blows and scathing, silver-tongued insults.

Stone mockingly spat the phrase ‘ My Ivo ’ through bloodied teeth. Robotnik didn’t wait to see who won.”

Ever since I’ve read this one paragraph I haven’t stopped thinking about it since actually no im not normal @vonlipwig ‘s Have We Met Before? Made me so ill when i first read it pls go check it out i was like biting my fist while reading it if ur the author hi i hope u like it !!1!

Without the blood and filters below⏬⏬

[egg-emperor]

love Eggman stamping his logo over the G.U.N one like nuh uh mine now bitch

his feelings of entitlement to all his grandfather's stuff persists. his journal and Shadow!

[mogosketchpad]

Never forget what you have, in here.

[number-one-shadisper-shipper]

Shadow Generations as text posts!

(Spoilers obviously so please scroll past if you don't want to see)

[pirate-hats-are-gay]

Why has no one in Stobotnik nation considered Love, Me Normally by Will Wood :(