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kingskyless · 5 months
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typing my theory out here too but:
Murata, and therefore Natlan, knows about the samsaras/timeloops Teyvat is experiencing:
since it's confirmed that Teyvat does go under samsara cycles (confirmed through a note in the tower if ipssisimus) and Natlan is the new nation we'll be visiting
My friend and I put our two mexican braincells together and came to the conclusion Natlan (since it's inspired by pre-columbian america) is probably deeply linked with the Aztec legend of the Five Suns (in which the world comes into being, perishes, and comes into being again)
A HUGE character involving the five suns is the deity Quetzalcoatl, who is probably the most known deity in Mexico AND he's often depicted as a feathered dragon.
Considering Natlan is a nation of dragons, well. YEAH????
Quetzalcoatl and his brother Tezcatlipoca (who took the form of a Jaguar) were essentially responsible for these five suns.
In these five suns, the world was destroyed either by a fall from grace, the world burning up or a giant flood.
I go waaaaay more in depth in this in my video but the gist of it is:
Murata knows about samsaras and these are deeply linked with dragons or just Quetzalcoatl. These samsaras may be linked with "resurrection" and Possibly Istaroth, as Venti is also basically confirmed to know of samsaras taking his "hello" line in mind.
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Let's just assume that v5.2 is giving us a highly desirable 5★ Pyro character who is at least Raiden levels of versatile, and maybe Furina or Nahida levels of "changes what teams are viable". (I'll be using female pronouns but let's also assume it's not a Himeko expy. Expectation management etc.) Let's also assume no new reactions / buffs, etc. Worst of all, let's assume the "Pyro is passion damage" truism holds.
4 potential Pyro kits that I hope we don't get (and 2 I'm okay with)
1: On-field Pyro DPS
(Why I don't like it: power creep.)
You know the drill. Big numbers, Pyro infusion, low enough ICD (or fast enough attacks) for reasonable XQ+YL reverse vape setups.
Less shield-dependent than HT+Arle, less poise-dependent than Yoimiya and Lyney, faster than Yanfei and Diluc, and, idk, stupidly high multipliers. ATK buff that scales on ATK because why not.
Example:
Press E to enter the Fiery Fire state, gaining a Pyro infusion increasing ATK by 50% of her current ATK.
Talent: after dealing a certain amount of DMG, deal a blast of AoE DMG.
Talent: when in the party in the overworld, if playing on mobile, all enemies move at 50% speed
2: Off-field Pyro DPS
(Why I don't like it: power creep.)
Example:
Press E to summon a Pyronado (20s duration 10s cooldown).
Press Q for a few hits of burst damage (Miko but 2× speed and homing), which simultaneously count as NA CA Skill and Burst DMG.
Talent: Elegy of the End
Talent: Alley Hunter
No ICD on anything.
When crafting Character Talent Materials, 50% chance to receive double the
3: fast weak off-field Pyro application
(Why I don't like it:) Burgeon is a niche, Thoma. I love and respect you but it's a very specific niche.
Example:
Press E to summon the Salon Des Dragons[...], which deals frequent Pyro damage and also coordinated attacks.
Talent: Burning can stack up to 3× damage and remains even after the Pyro or Dendro aura leaves. The Salon's attacks do not deplete Hydro aura. Overloaded pulls enemies in.
When crafting Character Ascension Gemstones, 50% chance to refund a portion of the materials used.
4: ATK buffer
(I.e. power creep)
You know, Pyro!Bennett. Less circle impact and more Navia's deal (or a Nahida sized circle). Swap the healing for damage prevention, perhaps, or follow Furina's footsteps and throw in some all-Element DMG% or Crit DMG% buff.
Green eyes optional.
5: Debuff (Pyro!Mona, Pyro!Lisa)
If Pyro is the "more damage" element and we don't want a Bennett 2.0, how about shredding RES better that Zhongli, or a less front-loaded Mona, or... all of the above?
Apply a debuff however we see fit. Nahida (E), Arlecchino (E), Mona (Q), Hu Tao (Q or E+CA), all have reasonable debuff triggers, as is a passive off-field effect. For wave clearing specifically(*), Yoimiya's target-jumping burst aura would also be pretty reasonable.
(*) after 4.1 (Peaks and Troughs) and 4.4 (Triumphant Frenzy) I think an endurance wave-clearing mode might be a viable endgame mode direction, RIP Nahida.
As for the debuffs, RES shred and/or DEF shred seem fine (the former being a nice boon for transformative reactions). Status curse that lowers enemy level if you want to be fancy :P
6: Off-field chip damage support
Consider our favourite leyline disorders, Smoldering Flames and Tracking Fire Ball, I guess this would... work? Arle+HT already do a little bit in the "DoT" niche but that's not their main deal.
E: Grant party a Curtain of Smolder. While under this effect, gain a Morning Star every 0.8s. If there are 4+ Morning Stars, consume them and launch a fireball at a nearby enemy (prioritising high HP) for stupid amounts of AoE damage. Whenever a party member under the Curtain of Smolder uses a Burst, gain a Morning Star. Whenever a party member deals DMG (max once per character per 1s), gain a Morning Star.
Q: oh yeah also all the enemies are taking ATK scaling Pyro DoT. Yeah it ignores defence. Yeah not removable.
Talent: While in the Curtain of Smolder state, the active character's attacks deal additional poise damage if they're not a Claymore user, additional fixed DMG if they're not a Bow/Catalyst User, and have increased ATK SPD if they're not a Sword/Polearm user.
When forging Mystic Enhancement Ore, 50% chance to receive 1 Primogem
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filmflam-and-nonsense · 6 months
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Natlan Dump from the past year and a half because I said I'll do it myself and now my files are filled with stuff like this.
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syn-amin · 2 months
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Natlan + Murata Speculation
(crack theory)
With the recent uproar surrounding the supposed leaks of Murata's design, i've been thinking a TON about what Natlan is going to be like. The lack of information in game is really infuriating, but it is most definitely for a reason, right? We know its location (Fontanian NPC Augustus Lovelace, Quest: Recollections of a Fontanian), we know about the existence of the Mare Jivari (from Venti's story quest), we know about some of the geography, how it has hot springs and volcanoes (two Inazuman NPCs), and we also know that there were, at a point in time, six tribes that ruled the land (reference the "Walking Stick" weapon story). According to Neuvillette, war ravages the land, and it is often referred to as "the nation of dragons." Other than those small bits and pieces, we know nothing. No NPCs from Natlan, and no information on the current Pyro Archon.
So here's a whole bunch of speculation brought to you by yours truly!
Spanish influence in both the Murata leaks and the Natlan Travail score. Murata "leaks" depict a matador inspired design, while the Natlan score has guitars and castanets, which makes it sound like flamenco music or traditional spanish music
Natlan is supposed to be influenced by the americas and africa. Why have spanish influence? Here’s why: colonization, both in real life and in genshin.
In real life, spain colonized a lot of the americas, heavily impacting native cultures
In genshin, many of the children of murata lost their connection with their god due to their struggle for survival and eventual enslavement, thus separating them from their culture
Vennessa, probably the most notable child of murata, stood up against the tyranny of the mondstadt aristocracy alongside venti and ragnvindr. Her red hair is a sign of her descendancy from murata
Vennessa effectively became a Mondstadtian thru the war and her title as the first “Dandelion Knight.” She died in Mond and became the Falcon of the West, which is one of the four winds
This Murata design could look so… european, because of the erasure of muratan culture thanks to enslavement in Mondstadt. The reason she could be an archon is because she fought to reclaim the land that rightly belonged to the muratan people
Which leads me to the reason for war in the first place. Murata might be dead
What leads me to say this? Well, Venti has no clue where Murata is after he awoke from his 1000 year slumber in order to assist Vennessa
None of the archons ever reference her in game. The only thing we do know is that the current pyro archon is NOT one of the original seven, as only venti and zhongli are
The constant war in natlan could be the result of a power struggle, where whoever’s on top at the moment is the acting archon, aka THE PERSON WITHTHE GNOSIS
At the end of the Fontaine Archon Quest, the traveler gets to ask Neuvillette about Natlan. Neuvillette doesn’t know much, saying “it’s a nation of dragons,” and that “war ravages those lands like an undying flame.” The most interesting piece, however, is that “the Captain” aka Capitano, one of the Fatui Harbingers, “has thrown his hat into the endless ring of war.” Neuvillette learned this from Arlecchino in their negotiations.
Why is a Fatui Harbinger fighting in a random war in the middle of the dangerous region of Natlan? There’s only one real reason. For the gnosis.
The Harbingers are allowed their own agendas of course. Signora wishes to “cleanse the world of its crookedness,” Childe wants to become the strongest warrior and fight the gods, Dottore wants to obtain the power of the gods, Scaramouche wants to become a god. But all of these goals (except for Scaramouche’s) serve the Fatui’s mission to collect the seven gnosises.
Capitano may have an alternative motive, but his main one is acquiring the gnosis, likely through means of war.
All of the past archons (and Neuvillette) have given up their gnosis in a manner fitting of their nation’s principals. Venti gave his up freely, not even trying to fight Signora back, despite the fact he very well could. Zhongli gave his up thru a contract. Raiden Ei gave hers to Yae Miko, who then traded it with Scaramouche in order to save the traveler’s life (which in essence is a form of eternity, by saving a life you elongate it), the electro gnosis is then acquired by nahida, who trades it with dottore in exchange for the destruction of his clones (the end of eternity). Nahida’s dendro gnosis is then traded to Dottore in exchange for knowledge on the skies of Teyvat. The hydro gnosis is given to Arlecchino by Neuvillette as a diplomatic gift, as she assisted in the rescue of many Fontanians despite her standing as a Harbinger
This means it is only likely that Capitano will win the gnosis in a war
In the Teyvat Travails trailer, Dainslief says, “the rules of war are written in the womb: the victors shall burn bright, while the losers must turn to ash. When the god of war shares this with the traveler, it is because she has her reasons.”
The metaphors of “victors burning bright” and “losers must turn to ash,” feels suspiciously like the life cycle of a phoenix
Ironically, in the Ars Goetia – a Hebrew collection of demons that the Archons take one of their names from –  there is a demon named “Phenex.”
As a child, Vennessa did not learn many of the stories of her people, or her god. One story she did learn, however, is about Celestia. In the story, great heroes would be chosen to live and fight alongside the Gods in Celestia, where the great heroes would effectively become immortal.
In the story of Phenex, Phenex believed after 1200 years he would return to heaven, but he was deceived.
These two stories sound incredibly similar, especially with the allusion to the Phoenix in the Travail teaser, and the return to heaven/celestia. 
Phenex has power over life and death, and is able to revive when killed. Venti once knew Murata, but he knows her no more. Perhaps this new archon is Murata rebirthed, born in Mondstadt, but still a child of murata who returns home to reclaim the land.
Additionally, the title for the chapter V archon quest is “Incandescent Ode of Resurrection.” Incandescent means “emitting light due to being heated,” an Ode is a poem in praise of something, and Resurrection, well… rebirth. This could once again point to the allusion to phoenixes thru the imagery of a fiery rebirth.
Perhaps the people are fighting to FIND the god of war, since the one who would win is the one who’s supposed to be the archon right? So if Capitano goes thru Natlan fighting every faction, eventually he’ll find the archon and fight them for the gnosis!
So it is possible that the current archon’s “demon name” is “Phenex,” or some variation of it. It is also possible that there is a constant battle in search of the god and the gnosis, explaining why the Murata Venti knew hasn’t been seen for so long, and why Capitano is (as of the latest mention of him) fighting in Natlan. The mondstadt-looking design depicted in the leaks could be due to the current archon being a descendent of Vennessa, who died in Mondstadt.
this is just speculation tho, and a bunch of wild, unorganized speculation at that. i hope it's at least somewhat comprehensible!
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porcelaintoybox23 · 8 months
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So Natlan is officially probably mostly African. I’m preparing now because Hoyo will fuck this up. I’m not sure how, but they will and I will have to see non black people be racist like 14 year olds given an n-word pass. Do I have to interact? No. Unlike Sumeru though, this will be personal and I like insulting racists. I’m placing bets.
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sheshe-stuff · 3 months
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Hinako - Pyro warrior, son of Murata.
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I haven't shown him before, this is Hinako in his personal body when he wasn't an exile and lived in Natlan with his mother.
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rexonalapis · 1 year
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archons as siblings, based on their vibe, from oldest to youngest
1. Venti: he used to be the pride and joy of the family until he developed burnout prodigal son syndrome very quickly as the first born
2. Zhongli: the second attempt to have a kid, their parents learned everything that's wrong from how they raise venti and perfected their parenting style on him
3. Tsaritsa: for the longest time she's the only girl in the family so she's trying to look rough and never get over her 'I'm not like other girls' era
4. Nahida: the middle child that the family forget about the most so she's just minding her own business while making mental notes about how ridiculous everyone else are
5. Ei: the antisocial lesbian one who's torn between being spoiled as young and immature, or having to set up example as older sibling to her two other younger sisters
6. Murata: the young, hyperactive jock sibling
7. Focalors: the youngest sibling who is rotten spoiled and has never admitted nor believe she did anything wrong ever
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selkies-and-cycles · 5 months
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Iansan: i don't care how interesting it is
Natlan creatures:
Iansan, pointing @ Aether: you are NOT infecting him with malaria
reference:
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odyssamiss · 2 months
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Murata headcanon/au(?) things
Not technically alive, but not quite dead
- Statue, but still technically alive
- Turned to stone defending her people (in the cataclysm/destruction of Khaenri'ah?)
Before her "death"
- Very caring individual, but very quick to make decisions (I swear there's a word for that)
- in touch with culture, has symbols on clothes/armour
- probably has special mementos made by past soldiers/their children that she cherishes
- wouldn't bring kids/those unfit for war into it
- stubborn, but not blinded by it (does that make sense? I don't think so, but writing isn't a priority when you're sick)
- claymore. I just really want a big cool weapon (that could also function as a shield?)
- adopted children, she has at least 2
Yeah, I've got nothing. Might add to this when I don't feel like I've been thrown off a bridge. Also I have outfit ideas
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Genshin took over my life and I'm now going to make my hyperfixation of it everyone's problem
Some time ago, I really, REALLY got into Genshin Impact and it has, without a doubt, taken over my life.
Recently, I read two pretty cool fics on Ao3; "Wards of the Wind" by Kiri_Kaitou_Clover and "Just a Boy" by Karmitara, which... both had me cooking.
I have a funky Genshin AU / Story Idea I want to info dump about! I call it "A Thousand Winds in a Windless Land"!
The general gist of it is that during the Cataclysm, Barbatos is sent to kill the Khanri'ahn heir, baby Kaeya, however, Barbatos is unable to bring himself to kill him and hands him over to Dainsleif who escapes into the Abyss while Barbatos distracts the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles.
Of course, they (because I stan gender-neutral Venti) lose. Normally, such actions would result in execution, however, the Sustainer is unable to kill Barbatos without consequences that probably involve Istaroth, so instead, she seals Barbatos away, but still tells all the Archons that she killed them to prevent any more rebellious behaviour.
Before they get sealed away, however, Barbatos transfers their powers over to their siblings; the Thousand Winds, putting them on the same power level as the adepti of Liyue, and then Barbatos transfers their soul into a vessel in the form of a wisp similar to the rest of the wisps so that they can keep helping out in Teyvat in secret. After sealing Barbatos away, the Sustainer goes to destroy Mondstadt as part of Barbatos' punishment, but because of the Thousand Winds' power up, they are able to defeat the sustainer and send her and Celestia into a slumber after she'd been weakened by the Cataclysm.
Afterwards, the Wind Wisps essentially became divine protectors of Mondstadt, similar to the Four Winds and Liyue’s adepti. They’re also able to have human forms, identifiable by their white hair and anemo-coloured tips and eyes. They mostly stay in Mondstadt but are also known to live in other nations alongside people they decide to stick to.
I imagine that the inclusion of the wisps and the presence of Barbatos (who calls themself Nye since their identity as Venti has been compromised) changes a lot of things that I'll probably cover in another post lol. But I like to imagine that some of the wisps decided to stick around with anemo users and residents of Mondstadt, as well as people who are just generally fighting for freedom as well as the archons. I also like to imagine that a wisp decides to stick around with Dainsleif, and as for the Traveller? The wisp who follows him around is literally just Nye/Venti lol
I don't really know what the Mondstadt quest will be since I plan for Dvalin to be cured :PP
I am also a sucker for Venti & Tsaritsa shenanigans and like to headcanon that they have a sibling relationship, so I imagine that around half of the animosity she feels towards the other archons is probably Barbatos related. She's mad at Morax because he was the one in charge of making sure that Barbatos would kill Kaeya, she was originally not as disappointed towards Beelzebub and was even a little sympathetic towards her until she decided to take the coward's way out and hide away in her Plane of Euthymia and leave an emotionless puppet to rule her people, but the Tsaritsa probably has nothing really against Buer and Focalors since there was genuinely nothing they could have done since neither of them become archons until after the Cataclysm. I'm not sure what Murata's role should be in all of this yet, but I do know that the Tsaritsa probably also really blames herself for not being able to prevent Barbatos' fate. My brother even suggested that maybe she was the one who was originally supposed to kill Kaeya, but because she refused, the duty was pushed onto Barbatos.
I'll probably info-dump more about this AU later lol
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lotusmuses · 2 years
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Since I made my own version of the Dendro Archon here's my take on the Tsaritsa, Pyro Archon, and Hydro Archon
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Our fair lady, the Tsaritsa.
Just basing on the fact that her title is basically being royalty I wanted to give her a sort of regal appearance. i don't have a name for her yet but her human form always seems sad and the people of snezhnaya don't fully know why. she's the archon of love! she wears the mask more often than not. she's friends/allies with Mersana!
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pyro female and male hydro because that's not usually the genders related to those elements. so i heard that hydro is justice and usually justice characters have covered eyes so i gave him that. these two aren't close with any of the other archons. also they both believe that celestia was right in destroying Khaenri'ah.
pyro archon lives for war and plans to side with whoever she thinks will win in the Tsaritsa's war on Celestia
hydro archon wants nothing to do with the Tsaritsa. and would fight any other archon with no hesitation.
honestly i don't have many headcanons for these three yet but that'll change
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kingskyless · 5 months
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my take on murata
art for my video talking about natlan and samsaras
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herrscherofmagic · 11 days
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syn-amin · 2 months
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Murata "Leaks" Discussion (it's literally just me complaining bc i'm pissed)
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i stg this influx of murata designs have made me so mad. like, nothing against the fan artists, but EVERYTHING against hoyo if this is actually along the lines of the design they plan to greenlight. we've already had enough european influence with mondstadt being a blend of the whole western side of the country, so why decide to focus on Spain??? the matador idea is cool, but not for the goddess of war, goddess of the land of dragons, the goddess of the muratans; this design just simply does not speak any of that at all.
additionally, all five of the archons we have thus far have a mostly monochromatic palette. there's the main color - which is the color closest to the emblems for the element they represent - the accent gold that all characters have, and neutrals. the two outliers in this color pattern are venti and ei, who both have colors outside of their respective color palettes that accent the look and bring it together. venti's corset, shoes and lyre are brown, while ei's obi and ribbons are red. murata's leaked design feels busy, even still when illustrated by other artists. the oranges, reds, gold and purple all feel like they're fighting with each other, and, at least to me, feel cluttered. those who receive their visions don't follow a particular dress code, but as archons it just makes sense design-wise that they would be the embodiment of their element.
ok also. the red hair thing. why do none of these "leaks" depict murata with her signature red hair?? if i'm not mistaken, vanessa and her descendants got their red hair FROM murata. i could totally be misremembering this fact, and i also know that a lot of the manga lore has been getting retconned or reworked so it's likely not the best source of info, but stilllll!!!
i'm gonna have to design my own murata. maybe one based off of these very dubious leaks, and one based off of what i want her to look like. we'll see!!!
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sleepyorchidmonster · 7 months
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Just realized that, in the eyes of Teyvat, Furina is the first Archon that wasn't part of the OG 7 that we meet.
Venti and Zhongli are literally the oldest remaining archons from that time.
Almost nobody knows about Ei and Makoto being twins, assuming they are the same person (even then Ei has been there since the beggining of the age of the archons).
Thanks to Rukkhadevata's sacrifice, everyone assumes Nahida has always been the archon, just lost plenty of memories and powers.
Meanwhile, Furina succeeded Egeria as Hydro Archon.
Maybe that's the main reason Neuvillette didn't mind working with her (at first, before he basically adopted her alongside the melusines). All the other archons can be seen as Celestia's accomplices in taking the power of the sovereigns, since they were all victors of the Archon War and "accepted" said terms. Meanwhile Furina just received the title after Egeria's death, having nothing to do with that.
So maybe Neuvillette sees Furina as another victim of Celestia, because, despite doing her best to protect Fontaine, she is clearly struggling to hold everything. And he decides it's an injustice to just thrust someone into such an inportant position without prior training, or maybe even consulting said person beforehand (who knows, maybe they just threw the gnosis at her face after Egeria died).
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feketeribizli · 2 months
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emilie the perfumer 🥀🍒☕♥️📿✂️
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