#hey jroth...

[kizo2703]

Hey Sunflowerkru, it's been 2199 days since another jroth's disaster.... oh fuck, hold on. 🤣🤣🤣

No, we're not gonna mention that asshole on this day. 😜 Thanks for tagging @togetherkru. 😘 Anyway, you can enjoy the garden (without my face 😘).

Saying hi/sending love to @travllingbunny @jeanie205 @astridandoddsandends @standing-bears-dont-run @delicatebluebirdruins @newbellarkefan @morleybobsource @tori613 @multifandomstan20

[bellamyblake]

HI! I've read some of your meta and headcanons and because I love them I have to ask, do you think Bellamy would've still been made bad even without Bob asking for time off? What are your thoughts on it? I saw you didn't chose the easy way out like most ppl and simply call him OOC but you understood some actions in a different way.

aw, hey! that's so kind, thanks for checking out my stuff. i haven't posted meta recently cause even when i have thoughts i don't always share them but debate about it in my mind so i wont be annoying.

the short answer to that is-yes. i absolutely think bellamy would've been made the villian of the story no matter what bob asked for.

i think the season 7 storyline absolutely copies the season 3 one where the same thing happened and i think that the path here was the same.

he would've gone through what he did in Etheria just like he went through everything he did in s3 A's episodes-something painful would've happened, he would've accepted the idea of transcendence and then after making a few mistakes in which I still think, no matter how much Bob had filmed, the other characters would've acted absolutely the same-

because guess what-

we've already seen in s3, absolutely the same thing.

so they would've still hated him the same way and blamed him for everything instead of reaching out to him. and then ultimately he would've seen things from within this broken system and realized Cadogan was wrong and this is bad and made the decision HIMSELF, then helped the others out, perhaps gotten hurt (like Levitt was in that finale episode, I remember i read somewhere it was supposed to be bellamy) and then ultimately maybe ended on the beach.

that's exactly what would've happened, i have about zero doubts about it cause as i said, we've seen it already.

the problem with bellamy was never that he was OOC. that is why i see things differently-it is the way the OTHER characters see him. or more specifially, how the writers write those characters seeing bellamy.

jroth has always admitted he had a hard time writing for bellamy. that his wife often asked him about it and questioned what he'll do with him and the thing is i dont think jroth always knew what to do and when he didn't, he opted for making him lean into his darker thoughts and trust his heart when he is hurt and alone otherwise making him bad because it was easier and because he knew bob wouldn't mind playing a bad guy as he had stated he liked that in earlier seasons.

the season 3 storyline follows the absolutely same path to the season 7 one (or the one it should've been had it been developed absolutely in the way jroth wanted it to be).

bellamy is a little lost and confused, he's trying to protect his family but then instead of doing things the right way, more death follows, so he decides to trust in to those who offer another option-PIke in s3 who speaks into his grief and absolutely into the guilt he feels.

the reason why pike wins bellamy over is because unlike Kane who keeps saying none of this was bellamy's fault, because he simply cannot read bellamy the right way and clarke isn't there, pike tells him the thoughts he falls asleep with every night-it's your fault, you killed those people, you didn't save gina.

a similar thing happens in s7-deucette and the others offer a way out. if we have to be honest with ourselves, clarke and bellamy's *doing better* never actually worked and especially not in s6.

bellamy is seeing more and more that the more he tries, the worse it gets, even when he's doing his best.

seeing his first sin-his mom, who was the death he didn't want to cause but did because he let his feeling show and wanted to make octavia happy, just speaks volums to him.

i also want to mention here that there are two more people who definitely play a role in his choice to trust what they're talking about here and that are Jasper and Monty.

Jasper because he saw there was no way out of their violent ways and opted to leave the world and Monty who too, separated himself from the clarke and bellamy world and decided to live a quiet albeit lonely life with harper because he realized that IS doing better or at least living better. partly both their reasons were selfish and ultimately don't help the entire group.

what deucette and cadogan offer, do. they safe everyone. that is what bellamy wants-to help them all, it was always his goal from the moment he adopted those kids on the ground. frankly, clarke lost that somewhere, but i dont think he ever did, especially not after season 4 when he spent all those years up on the ring with the others.

i dont find him OOC. i find the story shitty, yes, absolutely but i think and i will get yelled for that but that the City of Light storyline in all honesty wasn't at all that different from the lights and finding another form of eternal life-it was just underdeveloped and ofc jroth couldn't do something like CoL again in 7 as it already existed so he made it these weird beans of light.

do you know who the only character who never was invloved with CoL or that SL from the hundred was?

Bellamy.

Do you know why? Because I don't think Jroth knew how to do that at all. he had that chance here again, to try and indulge a SL where he could perhaps put bellamy into this world. the only problem was that he doesn't know how to write bellamy into a major storyline without making him a villain or making his actions a part of some redemption ark (e.g s2 and s4).

and in all honesty, the problem was never with bellamy. it was with clarke and everyone else. because the same thing that happened in s7 had already happened in s3.

no one, not a single soul, tried to undrestand what was happening with bellamy then. clarke argued but she wasn't there and didnt see him suffer-in fact she left him and said-they are your responsibility now, something he has lived for his entire life and now repeated for 48 kids he barely got there. octavia lashed out and just wanted to leave with lincoln, have her own life, miller, harper, kane, sinclair all worked against him without understanding him. kane preached the entire time how he's making a mistake but he never once tried to speak into what he feels the way pike smartly did. monty was somewhere in the middle, ultimately turned good.

in s7, clarke, o, raven and everyone else argue with bellamy. he tries to explain himself, tell them what he saw, how it all happened, that his mom was there, that he saw something. do you know what happens?

nothing. they bash him and tell him he's nuts.

let's see some examples of the opposite:

in s 2 ep 16 clarke says-I have no choice, I have to do this.

What does bellamy do?

he covers her hand and turns the lever with her.

in 3x16-she says i have to go into CoL after taking the chip.

what does bellamy say-I trust you.

in 4x01-she says ALIE said the radiation is coming for us all.

Bellamy said-we're looking into it, I trust her.

in 4x03 Clarke says-I don't deserve to live, not after everything.

Bellamy says-Yes you do and writes her name on the list.

in 4x13 Clarke says-I think I may be dying, mom had a vision of me dying.

Bellamy says-so what? You will be okay. AFTER SHE ALMOST SHOT HIM IN 4x11 MIGHT I REMIND YOU ALL.

the problem was never with bellamy. not in s7, not in any other season. yes he is flawed that is without saying, he did make mistakes, and that is why i love him and clarke and octavia because they make mistakes.

but don't let us make the same one-that the way he sees everyone else is the same they do because it isn't and never was.

and

that is the tragedy of bellamy blake.

[pendragaryen]

Hi! I’m super sorry to bother you over something so silly, but I was wondering if you could do me a favor. I don’t have many followers, but there’s a poll I would LOVE to see people’s opinions on & you have a lot more reach to t100 fandom than I do. If you’ve been blessed w the poll feature, do you think you could set this one up (& feel free to edit the language, because cursing is definitely involved, & I would completely understand if that made you uncomfortable):

If The 100 prequel had been picked up, would you have watched it?

-Yes

-No

-Hahaha

-Only if JRoth was no longer attached to the project

-Only in an alternate universe where JRoth didn’t destroy S7 of The 100

-F*ck JRoth & any project he’s attached to, he should never work in showbiz again

Thank you for reading! Please do not feel obligated to actually make this poll, I’m just insanely curious if fans would have actually given the prequel a shot.

-Kathleen

Hey there and thanks for your message! You're definitely NOT bothering me. But since i'm a total mess when it comes to any features or gimmicks of tumblr (i have no idea how to create a poll myself since i haven't done one so far - i also am too lazy to learn it... haha... sorry) i pass this ask on to my lovely followers:

Is there anyone able and willing to set up this poll? That would be great! I think it's quite the interesting question!

Tons of hugs! <3<3<3

[slytherinbarnes]

Hey Maggie. I'm re-reading the seventh season of Sub Rosa and I got to the infamous part where JRoth gave up on doing something that made sense (thanks so much for fixing this, by the way). And I remembered you wrote that one of your ideas for season seven was for La Lune to go to Etherea. And I was thinking, do you think, in this context, Clarke would have the courage to shoot? Even if it was her sister there?

2/2: And if she did, would Bellamy forgive her? Since we know Bell holds a lot more grudges when it's someone he loves who gets hurt. Even more so if we realize that if Clarke shoots they will spend a lot of time thinking she killed La Lune. (2/2)

ooooo, I love this question!!!! okay, so Clarke would definitely not be able to shoot la lune!!! if I went with la lune on etherea and wanted to keep the idea of her getting shot and seeming dead, it would definitely have to be one of the others to shoot her. like, Murphy or Raven or Echo!!! bc there's no way Clarke or Bell could do it.

but if Clarke did do it, Bell would probably never forgive her. I don't think he'd forgive her even when la lune would show up again alive. la lune forgave Clarke bc that's her shining star and twin. she knows that Clarke did what she had to, and in the end, Bellamy lived and she could see past that. I think Bellamy holds his grudges like you said (look at how long he was mad at Octavia!!) and he would probably NEVER forgive Clarke bc he just doesn't have that relationship with her like la lune had, and that relationship is really what resulted in that forgiveness!

thank you so much for this ask!!!

[bellamysgriffin]

Hi! What do you mean with "they were supposed to become canon that episode" under the bellarke gifset of season 6 with clarke waking up in gabriel's tent? And why didn't they become canon if there was such a plan? 😭 (I'm still catching up with season 7 but it's pretty clear to me from stuff I've seen on here that they won't be endgame 😭)

oh hey!! so apparently, according to bob morley during a convention, there was a scene in which blarke got together in 6.11, there was initally a separate tent in which they were supposed to become canon. but it was cut, and then bob morley tried to fight for it, but obviously jroth was not interested lmao :(

idk for sure why they didn't -- apparently there were deleted scene in which they became canon in s1 & 2 as well -- but my guess is jroth always kinda resented the fandom, especially bellarke shippers, which is pretty well evidenced from stuff he's said in interviews and the like, and i think the idea of giving us what he wanted always pissed him off.

if there weren't all those behind the scenes issues during s7 filming/writing i think it is very possible they may have gotten together then, but well. i guess we'll never know :(

[heller-obama]

Ajskfkfkd oh my godddd I only watched half of the tgp finale and I’m already emotionally wrecked send help

[magiaveneno]

everything else aside, dean deserved better than this. i would've been okay with the ending if they hadn't killed him but you can't just. do that. and destroy his entire character arc like that. what were the writers trying to accomplish. i thought we all agreed that doing Things for shock value was bad? oh my god

[lvcygraybaird]

#i wanted SO much more from this scene but..this is all we get 🤷🏼‍♀️

THE 100 ⇢ 5x12

[iamgrewt]

So when are we going to talk about Abby being the one to appear for Raven I'm 😭😭😭

[asroarke]

the most ridiculous thing JRoth has ever done on this show was introduce a character named Delilah and then didn’t write a single character responding to her introduction with HEY THERE DELILAH WHAT’S IT LIKE IN NEW YORK CITY YOU’RE A THOUSAND MILES AWAY BUT GIRL TONIGHT YOU LOOK SO PRETTY YES YOU DO TIMES SQUARE CAN’T SHINE AS BRIGHT AS YOU I SWEAR IT’S TRUE

[ragnarssons]

No offense, like, forreal this time it’s not pure hate against E/cho. But thinking about what TT said about Jroth having E/cho not cry while watching Monty’s message. This is 100% why I will never relate to the character. WHY?? I thought they were family? Monty hugged E/cho and was worried for her when she left for her mission on s5? What is the point of having her survive Praimfaya and join Spacekru if at the end of TWO Spacekru’s members’ journey, she has NO EMOTION about it? It’s just a stupid decision from Jroth and it just proves that he can tell “but she has changed” all he wants, he doesn’t even care to show it on screen and that’s just dumb.

[maybankssurftrip]

hii can you rank your favourite slow burns pls?

YESS!!! gladly!

1. JJ & Kiara (obvs. lmao)

2. Stiles & Lydia (they had my heart since ep.1)

3. Bellamy & Clarke (though technically that's a no burn and I will never forgive jroth for it)

4. Anne & Gilbert (my childhood book otp)

5. Joey & Pacey (pretty much only watched the show for them)

6. Cordelia & Angel (never expected them to even end up together but hey... angel happened)

7. Spike & Buffy (shipped them since S2 omg)

8. Jess & Rory (idk does that count as a slow burn?? well they put me through enough trauma so)

9. Dan & Blair (is this an unpopular opinion?? idk but I always loved their dynamic from day one)

[historyofshipping]

JJ Abrams, Rob Thomas, D&D really called up JRoth and were like “Hey - can you do something to make everyone forget about how bad TROS, VM, and GoT were?”

And JRoth went “I GOTCHU BROS!” and damnit he did. He really did. 

[facelessfrey]

Another Wednesday down. Only one more episode of the 100 to go. And the saddest part of all is that I just don’t care. That’s what the two previous episodes did to me. They made me not care. 

I should care about Emori and Madi and I do on some level but not the way that I should because what’s the point anymore? 

Clarke killed Bellamy over a fucking sketchbook that she didn���t even secure and everything she feared would happen if she left Bellamy alive happened anyway. So what the hell was the point? 

I’m also tired of hearing them all mention Bellamy all the time because it just feels like JRoth trying to justify his choice and make it somehow meaningful because they all keep bringing him up and using him and what happened and who he was before and recently to somehow justify their own choices. I don’t know. I don’t like it. 

Also, the fact that they were just going to shoot Madi instantly. What happened to exhausting all the options first? I know it’s the end of the series but come on. And you take the word of fucking Levitt? Maybe Raven can make another miracle happen. Ah well..at least they didn’t end up actually killing her yet. 

It’s just all so ridiculous. All this arguing over “it’s a test!” “It’s a war!”. Who the fuck cares?! I certainly don’t. 

Sigh...and Sheidheda is still fucking alive. Why?!? “We’ll deal with him later”. That’s what you ALWAYS say! And then he’s still there. Every damn time all because “hey we need you for another plot point”!

I can’t believe they made me so indifferent in the final two episodes. A travesty. 

[wreck-jroth-club]

WELCOME TO THE WJRC! 

A t100 fic collab 

Back in August, long before the actual finale of The 100, Mads ( @stealing-jasons-job​) had a S7 finale fic idea where transcendence would actually be a choice. And Miranda (@sparklyfairymira​) said, “Hey, this would make such a good fic collab.” So we did it! We asked a ton of Bellarke fic writers if they wanted to join, and we started planning out this massive project. 

The finale didn’t go the way we’d hoped (though some of the basic themes—a mind space-esque place within the anomaly, someone from her past “guiding” her through the process, transcendence actually being a choice, etc—were shockingly similar to the original fic idea), but that just meant this collab was an opportunity to rewrite the finale in a different way. 

So without further ado, The Wreck JRoth Club Fic Collab: 

What is it: 

A fic collab that starts publishing chapters Jan. 7, 2021! A bunch of writers and creators came together to write and create accompanying moodboards/art/vids for this collab, and we’re so excited to start sharing. 

What is it about: 

We’ll share the title, full premise, and some sneak peeks throughout the week (so make sure to follow along for those), but the basic rundown is that it’s an alternate S7 finale where Clarke choses whether or not humanity transcends. There will be angst, fluff, fun twists, heartbreaks, and everything in between. 

When will it publish: 

We’ll be posting chapters multiple times a week starting Jan. 7th. 

Where will it publish: 

We’ll post chapters to our AO3 account, but each chapter’s author will be listed in the AN. You can also follow along here for updates as well as on Tumblr and Instagram!  AO3: https://archiveofourown.org/users/wreck_jroth_club/pseuds/wreck_jroth_club Twitter: https://twitter.com/wreckjrothclub Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wreck_jroth_club/

[youcrashedmyparty]

first jordan now diyoza can we please not do this