#in a game with such different endings/routes

[professorspork]

idk how to word this properly but wrt the fanfic thing you reblogged earlier. Why do fanfic writers have such different expectations than any other content hosting platform?

Like lets take youtube as a point of comparison, Engagement like comments and likes largely exists to boost the works place in algorithm, thats why youtubers put in calls to action and other engament bait. Few with decent reach even read the comments and the audience shouldnt try to develop any weird parasocial relationship with the youtuber. Fanfic authors ask for likes (kudos, because the websites gotta use nonstandard language for some reason) and comments despite them not having any impact on an algorithm, and seem to want the audience to try and develop a relationship with the author based on tumblr posts like that one.

Why the radical difference in behaviour away from the norm? And honestly with all the (usually) metaphorical blood spilled online about parasociality why are authors really surprised that the audience tries to keep their distance as is best practice with any other content producer?

okay I am going to answer this as kindly and as calmly as I can and try to assume that you are asking this in good faith. because my friend, the fact that you feel the need to ask is, to me, The Problem.

[this is, for the record, in response to this post]

fanfiction writers are not *posting content.* (I also have reservations about engaging with the term "content producer" or "content creator" but let's put that aside for now, I'll circle back to it.) you say "they seem to want the audience to try and develop a relationship with the author" as though it is strange, off-putting, and incomprehensible to you, when in fact that is the point of writing fanfiction. it is a way of participating in fandom. it is a way of building community and exchanging ideas and becoming closer with people.

if authors wanted to solely ~generate content~ that would get them attention (?? to what end, the dynamic you have described seems to equate algorithmic supremacy as winning for winning's sake, as though all anyone wants to do is BUILD an audience without ENGAGING with them, which I cannot fathom but let's pretend for a moment that is, in fact, true) then like. if that were the case why on earth would they choose a medium in which they categorically cannot succeed and profit, because it isn't their IP?

you are equating two things that are not at all the same thing. to the degree that parasocial relationships are to be avoided, and "that person is not trying to be your friend they are trying to entertain you, please respect their boundaries" is a real dynamic -- which it is!! -- like. you have to understand that the reason that is true for the people of whom it is true is because it is their JOB. they are storytellers by profession, and they are either through direct payment, or sponsorship, or advertising, or through some other means, profiting off of your attention. i don't say this to be dismissive, many wonderful artists and actors and comedians and any number of a thousand things that i enjoy very much go this route but they do so as a *career choice.* and so when you violate the public/private boundary with them, you are presuming to know a Person rather than their Worksona. the people who work at Dropout or who stream their actual play tabletop games or who broadcast on TikTok or YouTube are inviting me to feel like i know them to the degree to which that helps them succeed in their medium and at their craft, but there MUST be a mutual understanding that that's a feeling, not a fact.

however.

a fanfiction writer is not an influencer, not a professional, and is not looking to garner "success." there is no share of audience we are trying to gain for gain's sake, because we are not competition with one another, because there is nothing to win other than the pleasure of each other's company. we are doing this for no other reason than the love of the game; because we have things we want desperately to say about these worlds, these characters, these dynamics, and because we *want more than anything to know we are not alone in our thoughts and feelings.* fanfiction is a bid for interaction, engagement, attention, and consideration. it is not meant to be consumed and then moved on from because we are NOT paid for our work, nor do we want to be. the reward we seek is "attention," but attention as in CONVERSATION, not attention as in clicks. we are not IN this for profit, or for number-go-up. there is no such thing: legally there cannot be. we are in this because we want to be seen and known.

like. please understand. i am now married to someone i met because of mutual comments on fanfiction. our close friend and roommate, with whom i have cohabitated for over a decade now, is someone I met because of mutual comments on fanfiction and livejournal posts. that is my household. beyond my household, the vast majority of my closest personal friends are people with whom I built relationships in this way.

you ask why fanfiction writers want THIS and not "the norm," but the idea of everything being built to cater to an algorithm to continue to build clout, as though the only method of reaching people is Distant Overlord Creator and Passive Receptive Audience being "the norm" is EXTREMELY NEW. this is not how it has always been!! please think of the writers of zines in a pre-internet fandom, using paper and glue and xerox to try and meet like-minded people in a world that was designed for you to only ever meet people in person, by happenstance, in your own hometown. imagine the writers of the early internet, building webrings from scratch to CREATE a community to find each other, despite distance. imagine livejournal groups, forums, and -- yes, indeed, of course -- comment threads IN STORIES -- as places where people go to *converse.* in the past, we had an entire Type Of Guy that everyone knew about, the BNF ("Big Name Fan") whose existence had to be described via meme because it was SO DIFFERENT THAN THE NORM. treating fellow fans like celebrities or people too cool for the regular kids to know was an OUTLIER, and one commonly understood to lead to toxicity.

in the past, I have likened writing fanfiction to echolocation. i am not screaming because I like hearing the sound of my own voice, though i can and do find my voice beautiful. i am screaming so that the vibrations can bounce back to me and show me the world. the purpose is in the feedback. otherwise it is just noise.

does this make any sense? can you see, when i describe it that way, why an ask like yours makes me feel despair, because it makes us all sound so horribly separate from one another?

perhaps I will try another metaphor:

a professional chef who runs a restaurant will not have her feelings hurt if you never fight your way into the kitchen to personally tell her how much you enjoyed the meal. that would, indeed, violate a boundary. professional kitchens are a place of work, and you have already showed her you enjoyed the meal by paying for it, or by perhaps spreading your enjoyment by word of mouth to your friends so they, too, can have good meals. you show your appreciation by continuing to come back. if a bunch of people sitting around randomly happen to have a conversation about how much they love the food, it wouldn't hurt that chef's feelings to not be included in the conversation. however: EVEN IN THIS INSTANCE, it is ADVISABLE AND APPROPRIATE to leave a good review! you might post about how much you like this restaurant on Yelp, and it would probably make the chef feel great to see those positive comments. but the chef doesn't NEED them, because the chef is, again, *also being paid to cook.* that's why she started the restaurant, to be paid to cook!

i am not being paid to cook.

i am at home in my own kitchen, making things for a community potluck where i hope everyone will bring something we can all enjoy together. some people at the potluck are better bakers, some better cooks; some can't cook at all but are great at logistics and make sure there's enough napkins for everyone; some people come just to enjoy the food, because that's what the party is for. and if I, as this enthusiast chef who made something from my heart for this reason alone, learned after the fact that a bunch of people got together in the parking lot to rave about my dish but no one of them had ever bothered to tell me while I sat alone at my table all night, occasionally seeing people come by to pick up a plate but never saying anything to me -- of course that would bother me, because I am not otherwise profiting off the labor I put in. this is not a bid to be paid, because if someone WERE to say "hey, great cake!! here's five bucks for a slice" i would say no, friend, that is not the point and give them the money back. i'm not trying to Get Mine. I am in it to see the look on your face. I'm in it so you can tell me what about it moved you, so that I can say back what moved me to make it in the first place. so we can TALK about it.

because what happened in the first place is this: one time I had a cake whose sweetness, richness, flavor, intensity, and composition moved me so much that I *taught myself to bake.* so I could see how much vanilla and sugar was too much, so I could learn how to make things rise instead of fall flat, so I could even better appreciate the original cake by seeing for myself the effort and talent and inspiration that goes into making one even half as good.

learning to do so is a satisfying accomplishment in and of itself, yes.

but I also did it because at the end of the day we should EAT the cake. and it's a lonely thing, to eat alone when a meal was always designed and intended to be shared.

so, to answer your last question: i'm not surprised, i'm just sad. because somehow two things that were never meant to be seen as the same have been labeled "content," and thus identical. and it diminishes both the things that ARE intended to be paid for AND the things that are not, because it removes any sense of intimacy or meaning from the work.

i hope you know i'm not mad at you for asking. but i'm frustrated we've come to live in a world where the question needs to be asked, because the answers are no longer intuitively obvious because we're so siloed.

[krispdreemurr]

Your discussion of the Dark World in 3 having different elements and the phrase 'Kris has aligned themself with the Knight but pieces of something else bleed through' reminds me of the hidden tropic of love dialogue in sword route from Tenna that reads like. "i'm trying my best to make it fun, but… here and there, strange things are showing through…" Which I think conceptually is especially Neat considering the like. Idk words, friction between Ramb and Tenna re: what the 'fun' of the world should be, even as both of them Do want Kris to have fun? Do you have any thoughts on that entire implied subplot-ish thing in the context of Kris Themes?

yeah absolutely there's that... hm. trying to word things

Kris very much wanted this to be a light and easy dark world for Susie and Ralsei (and themself), both because they care for them a lot and to alleviate some of their guilt about putting their mom in danger/hopefully getting a cop kidnapped. they knew it had to be Bad at the end, but they wanted something fun and easy until then. something to make it a little better. that's what tenna offers; can't we have one last fun night together?

but of course that wasn't going to work like. they're under incredible mental strain, they're feeling like an object being passed between carol and the soul, they're dealing with this horrible guilt that they're okay with going along with carols plan at all, etc. and i think Ramb and the sword route offer the chance to just--stop trying. stop pretending that they're a good person. maybe they can even learn to take enjoyment in being what they are, can see it as fun, as a game, as not real. isn't freedom in a cage learning to think of yourself as outside the bars? if you're only given the capacity to do harm, but you're rewarded for it, can't you find joy in it?

i think a lot about Susie if Kris tells her they didn't have fun just unplugging the controller and telling them to stop. it's aimed at a weird route player, of course, but I also think it's one of those things that starts to dig into Kris' commitment to the plan. if they're being asked to do things they find repulsive just to continue with the plan - maybe they don't have to continue with it at all.

[wardarose2004]

Who's your favorite diaboy? Could you write some HC about him?

Ooh... Never thought someone would ask me this Question 😃 I like all of them somehow but my current favorite is Carla Tsukinami....

Carla Tsukinami Headcanon 👑🌕🦅🦇🐍🐺

Carla Tsukinami is the eldest brother of the Tsukinami family. The eldest son of Giesbach , the Ancestor King, and Krone , his empress wife. The current king of the clan. Along with Shin, he is one of the last representatives of the race.

He looks 18 but is several hundreds year old.

He's born in May 28, a Gemini ♊

Height-183cm; Weight-65kg; Foot size-27cm as Same as Reiji's 🌚; Body mass index-19.4; Blood group-AB

Morikawa Toshiyuki is his japanese voice actor.

He has 'sharp' amber eyes and long upper eyelashes.

There are dark spots on the body from endzeit.

Yui noted that Carla had large, strong hands and rather long fingers . (CL)

His hair is white with grey-violet tips. Yui has often commented on the smoothness, softness and beauty of his hair. In Born To Die Vol.1, Carla first heard a compliment about his hair. When he washes his face, he ties it up (Chaos Lineage Yoyaku Tokuten Drama CD) . In LE Carla Manservant End, she combed his hair.

He's acts as 3rd grader in Ryotei. His main profession is Founder King.

He's lazy, brute and sadist by heart. But he's a great leader(LE,CL). Though according to current interview with Shin, Carla has very bad life skill.

He once mistook dirty magazine as wallet in a drama CD.

Likes to drink blood from throat and collarbone where it hurts most.

He hates being identified as vampire. So much that he hit Yui/MC/Player just for assuming he's one in DF Carla dark prologue.

Favorite food ｢生ハム｣ = "dried ham" (character profile on the official website) .

Disliked food ｢Dirty Blood｣ = "dirty blood" (Character Profile of the game More,Blood) .

Carla thinks that cured ham and melon are the perfect combination. Much to Kanato's disgust.😆

Praised Kanato's taste in sweets and dessert in LP Kanato route Subscenario Carla.

Can tell if a ham is good just by looking at it. [LP Date with Tsukinami]

He was afraid to order food in a human family cafe because everything there is cheap. [DIABOLIK LOVERS LOST EDEN - Stellaworth Bonus CD]

Doesn't like Japanese food but liked takoyaki and nagashi somen(tweet). Can't use chopsticks.

His hobby is ｢絵画収集｣ = "collecting paintings" (character profile on the official website) .

He is expert in painting related researches. Once helped Ayato with his art related project in 4koma manga.

Once Laito braided Carla's hair. It's a surprise he didn't kill or push him away like he pushed Reiji away from trying to tie up his hair in LP Carla route Subscenario Reiji.

Prefers landscapes. Often wastes money by buying paying paintings and cured ham. Poor Shin😆 Shin's having hard time managing the Bandamen's economy preventing themselves from going bankrupt 😆

Can fence.

His route theme in the game Dark Fate ー ｢切なる願い｣ = "cherished desire" (Perfect Guide Dark Pleasure , Dark Fate Official Visual FanBook ) .

In Chaos Lineage, he is the head of the Violet Family. His "chess piece" is the King (CL OP) .

In the game Lost Eden, the Vampire Leader in his route is Shu.

Kanji used to describe it by its developers: Iwasaki Daisuke (director) ー ｢始｣ ("originality"), Yumi Yamada (writer) ー ｢王｣ ("king") ( B's-LOG No. 10.2022 ) .

Personal mineral from the merch collection ｢Masquerade Jewel｣ - golden tigers eye.

Major Arcana from the collection ｢Vampire 13 Tarot Card｣ー the emperor.

Carla's specialty in the medical certificates for AGF 2017 is "Cardiologist".

In the official Rejet poll "Character You Wouldn't Introduce to Your Parents", Carla was ranked 31st.

There is a big age difference between Carla and Shin. [Shin's route LE Ecstasy Epilogue] Shin has just been born, while Carla is already in his teens.

Carla and Shin study in a specially designated class at Ryotei High School. King privilege💅

Doesn't really understand puns and sarcasm.

Carla calls Yui and the other boys except Shin "kisama", a very disrespectful Japanese word for "you". Geis addresses Carla and Karlheinz addresses Geis as Kisama too

Carla admits that Karlheinz was great and perfect for him, which is why he hates him. Also admires Karl's amazing powers[DF maniac prologue Carla's route] But hates Vampires.

In [LP Date with Tsukinami], Yui notes that Carla cuts ham well and neatly.

In [LP Date with Tsukinami], Carla styled Yui's hair beautifully.

Although he read a lot about people in order to learn to understand them, he still did not know what summer, Christmas, amusement parks,Dj booth,Samba dance, etc.

One day, when Carla was still imprisoned in Pandemonium, the screams of children who had lost their families echoed throughout the castle. They surrounded the castle. Karla has not been able to stand them since. [LP]

In [LP], Karla was at a parade for the first time in his life, and was interested in the roller coaster. He was not impressed. But Yui actually secretly keeps a photo of him that was quite impressed. (It's a photo from the ride manager, taken during the ride.) Laito managed to keep one and blackmailed Shin to give him money or he would expose the photo to public.

Yet that photo was exposed to us in a drama CD oustagram by Kino😆

Carla knew that Yui would die someday and offered to make her immortal in [LP]. Carla said that if he turned Yui into a Progenitor, there would be no need to continue searching for her heart.

He is not impressed by the lights on the trees. He thinks the stars are more beautiful.

In [his route's Reiji LP scene], Reiji tried to tie Carla's hair while he was eating, but Carla pushed him away and said that it was better for his hair to touch his food than for that vampire to touch his.

In one of the CD dramas, Carla had to explain a lesson to Yui. He asked what was bothering her and started stroking her head. Then he started pulling her hair and reproaching her for shaming him by not being able to understand the material. The carrot and stick method is the most effective, in his opinion. [DIABOLIK LOVERS VERSUS II: “THE ELDER BROTHERS' MEETING, DECIDE WHO IS THE STRONGEST BROTHER!”]

When the other vampires said that being 'attracted' to one's sister was disgusting, and mentioned that it was normal for the Progenitors, Carla became nervous and began to deny everything. Eventually, he retreated. [DIABOLIK LOVERS VERSUS II: “THE ELDER BROTHERS' MEETING, DECIDE WHO IS THE STRONGEST BROTHER!”]

In [LP] Carla is bitten by a demonic snake and begins to turn to stone.

Carla had never played baseball, but agreed to play with Kino for information about a place where dried ham was sold. He refused to hit the ball. [DIABOLIK LOVERS LOST EDEN - Stellaworth Bonus CD]

In [the CD drama Born To Die Vol.1], the main character gives Carla a hairpin with a pattern of white and red gloriosa flowers for her birthday.

Carla once got his head stuck in pumpkin head which Kino made fun in his 2016 tweet. Kino was once almost got killed for trying to prank Carla(tweet)

Carla's rooms are always covered with paintings. Both in Pandemonium, in the Tsukinami mansion in the human world, and in the Violet mansion.

His room is designed in crimson tones.

Has a lot of followers aka purists who often try visiting/visit him much to Shin's dismay.

According to Shin, his ideas are always sudden: for example, asking Yui to prepare everything for the brothers' meeting with an important person the day before this meeting [LP date with Tsukinami] .

Cats don't like Carla(LE and DF)

Hard to understand his emotion.

Carla has a strong sense of duty towards his race and clan

Likes to read books. He read religious and philosophical books written by humans to better understand people. He also read fairy tales and children's picture books - he liked them. But he doesn't seem to understand that they are meant for children, and he doesn't understand why you laugh. He read fairy tales to the ancestral children when he was locked in Pandemonium. [DF Carla Dark Epilogue]

Not very good at cleaning. [according to Yui from CL story 9] and can't cook. [CL]

Says that women's appearance doesn't interest him, because they are 'just bones covered in skin and flesh'. A body positive sadistic king 🤣

He is attracted to women with a strong character.

Has personal dairy.

Once admired broken glasses(broken by Subaru) as an street art in 4koma manga.

Subaru admired his strength in Carla LP route Subscenario Subaru and in LE.

Called Subaru a love child.

Admired his father but later hated him. But still respects him.

Once dressed as Santa and dressed Shin as Reindeer after recieving orders from his father in his dream (though I suspect it's Karl disguising as Geis to deceive Carla) and gifted Sakamakis, Mukamis and Kino high quality scarf.

Demonic abilities:

As a progenitor, he can transform into the forms of other races: a snake ( vibora ), a wolf ( wolf ), an eagle ( adler ) and a bat ( vampires ).

Can use magic (fire, lightning, temporarily immobilize opponent, can erase storm, cause rain, erupt volcano?, set up barriers, make water dragon, make scarf magically longer, destroy walls within a blink, probably can divide sea like Moses😆, light up sky with magic, play instruments with magic without touching or having experience about them😆 etc.).

Can shapeshift? Create illusion?

In [the CD-drama VERSUSⅢ Vol.1 アヤトVSカルラ] he used his power to appear in another dimension: he was in the same place as Ayato, but Ayato didn't see him, unlike Carla. And he attacked Ayato through dimensions.

Can teleport.

Can summon familiars and control them.

Can resurrect someone for a while (for example, Cordelia from Ayato's route in DF)

[6feathered6siren6]

Can I request for a fic where MC fakes their death? Like fully commits to it, skipping town, ignoring the server, ect ect. Maybe Ronin and V get fed up because there hasn't been any news stories about it, so maybe they track reader down and confront them? I just thought the idea would be cool !

Killer chat of course :)

Thank you !!!

Pulled into Life(V x Ronin x Reader)

Authors note: Blame the call I was in when I wrote this, it became Ronin x V x Reader(more at the end), I wanted to write this differently but I still like the turn out. Add some tidbits at the end btw :3(got this done in a few hours) Anyway, enjoy, make sure you are taking care of your needs! o7

Trigger warnings:

Anxiety

Light Angst

Light mentions of both V's and Ronin's routes

--

You left everything behind. You only got the clothes on your back and your vehicle. You couldn’t handle it, you literally were breaking from the tension. Killers that will hunt you down if they know, and you couldn’t pretend anymore. You had to leave. And that what leaves you into this small run down apartment, you go by another name, you change your appearance, you know they can track you down. You took any job, just something to gain money, to keep yourself afloat.

It was hard work but you left everything behind, and you would never look back. 

—

You sigh as you leave your job, groaning in pain as your feet hurt for standing so long. As much you don’t like it, it pays the bills. You got into your vehicle and drive to your place, and as you leave your car, you see someone standing in front of your building. Someone familiar… 

You couldn’t breath, it turned stale and started to hurt your chest as they turned to look at you. The dark black braid whip around, their dark eyes capture your figure. You knew him, you escaped from him, you escaped from him and the server he was from. 

“Reader..” V spoke. His voice was careful, cautious. He stayed put as you took a step back. Your eyes felt like they were burning, sight goes blurry. 

You couldn’t, the fear fills you, the anxiety picks your brain. You need to run. You need to get away. Your back hits your vehicle, you couldn’t back away.  

He took a step forward, he continued to speak. “Can we speak?” 

“No, leave.” Your voice shakes, “I am not dealing with you. Not now. Not ever.” You could feel your throat close up, but you push the words through. You have to, you have to stand your ground. 

“Reader, please can we talk?” V spoke again, stepping forward towards you. 

“No.”

“Just.. please.. Everyone is worried. You just disappeared. Did you get caught? Someone on your trail?” Yeah, him, everyone on that server. 

“Just go.” You said again, but you were more stern. 

“Please, one conversation, then I’ll go.” He pleaded, continue to get closer until he was about a few feet away from you.

“Five(5) minutes.” You said, crossing your arms, creating pressure, allowing yourself to ground a bit.

He sighs, nodding. “Why did you disappear? Everyone thought you died.” 

“I made it that way.”

“Why?” 

“I…” Tell him?

“If you don’t feel comfortable with that, then answer me, was it the server? Or someone who was haunting you?”

“Everything.”

He paused, his eyes softened. He seems like he felt guilty with what he did. Realizing he was also putting pressure on you. “Oh.”

“Look, I… I couldn’t.. I had to leave, V.” 

He was quiet again. “Ronin is worried, Angel is concerned, Misaki wants you back into the server, Feli and Luca want to play games with you again.”

You bit your cheek, you are scared. “I’m…”

V sighs. “I apologize for my actions, I think I might also be the cause of this.” You look up, seeing his dark eyes look guiltily. 

You paused, taking a break. “V…” You look back at your arms. “It’s so much more than that-”

He interrupts you with a hand on your arm. “You were telling the truth. That you weren’t a killer.” 

Your eyes widen, before sighing. “So… you finally understand.”

“Ronin told me, he noticed that we got close. And he was very worried about you. So he told me.” Your arm was squeezed. 

Thinning your lips, you didn’t want to talk about this but, who knows who else is here. “So what now, are you going to kill me V? It’s why I ran. I didn’t want to be killed for something I’m not. I don’t want to soil my hands for something I can’t handle, V!”

V stayed there. He allowed you to break slightly, after all this happened. “I don’t want to kill you, or hurt you. You have my word.”

You stare at him, he is an honest guy. And you know this. 

—

V left, he talked a bit more, and handed you his and Ronin’s number, for some reason? But whatever, you stare at the small piece of paper in your hand. Two numbers and names lie on it. The moon light shines through the foggy, unclean glass window, illuminating the room with the soft glow. You hold your knees closer with your other hand. Ronin found you. Of course, he would, gave you away to V. But… You aren’t an article headline, bleeding out on the pavement. You… are alive. Breathing. A bit fast, but a reminder you aren’t gone yet. 

Would you test fate? 

No…

Yes, you will. 

You started to text Ronin. Why did he track you down? Did he want to kill you?

‘Hey’ you sent. 

You didn’t expect much. But for him to respond was not one of them.

‘well well’ He typed. ‘Look at what the Cat dragged In’

‘V found me. Why look for me? To kill me?’

You wanted answers. 

‘Because darling’ He sent another. ‘we Never finished our Game’ ‘plus, we Got plans’

Plans?

You took a breath, feeling like your patience was already thin, ready to snap.

‘Are you going to kill me?’

‘you said i Can take your Aorta, darling’

‘so you are after my heart??’

‘Something like that’

You bite your cheek again, tasting iron. What next? He was the one who was adamant to hunt you down, killing you if you weren’t a killer like them. Now he’s not going to? Mix messages much?

You sigh, clicking your phone off and throwing it to the side, stretching out before bed. It’s a problem for you in the future you.

But you have been found. You don’t know what will happen…

It’s a start, dragging you back to the city, talking to the server, showing that V and Ronin weren't insane for thinking you were alive. The Ronin and V wanted to bring you back, after all you didn’t die, and they didn’t believe both of them. Everyone thought you went underground, hiding, which you were. But, they were happy to see you. The pressure was still there, V had stepped back, he knew. Ronin knew as well, but his teasing was higher while his threats became more empty. 

V said he would protect you and you put his word into a solid promise. Ronin was someone to watch someone in pressure, but he helped lessen it. 

A silver snake charm necklace dangles around your neck symbolizing one of the relationships. While a ring wrapped around your middle finger, with a red line in the middle to represent the other. 

—

Headcanons/snip bits 

Anxiety gets high often from the pressure, scared of the killers killing you after finding out. V would be there, holding a weighted blanket or stuffed animal for you. Allowing you to cuddle to his side, as he reads books for you. Ronin would tease you but it’s light teasing to ground you, love riling you up, distracting you from your worries.

V would disregard anything from the server, holding his ground, while Ronin would change the conversation away from you.

V would call you each night to let you rant, and vent, Ronin would join in as well, teasing V and riling him for you to laugh.

[jungkooklover29]

vro saw “hankcon shippers dni” and said this sign can’t stop me cuz I can’t read 😝😝

dude hank yells at Connor and shit because he just keeps acting like nothing happened (like he didn’t just fucking die) it all depends on how you play the story

hank comes around to Connor at the end of the game if you like. do everything right ig (deviant Connor route) the only reason hank still like “verbally assaults” him is because (MACHINE) Connor doesn’t see the problem in him dying and coming back like nothing happened,,,

saying I’m getting “upset” about others interpretation is crazy like my ass is NAWT going under every hankcon post and being like “THIS SHIT SUCCCKKSS” like I don’t care that damn much 😭 also don’t think I ever said that guy was the lead writer I said he was ONE of the writers… and yknow it doesn’t get any better than the actual writers for the games like saying that? like if the writers of ANY other game I liked said that I’d be like “word?? fr tho” like…

And them being “unrelated adults” doesn’t make it any better?? it feels like shipping dexter and debra? like yeah they aren’t blood related but still makes it really fucking weird??

idk I guess to me it’s different when you’ve interacted with the actor who plays Connor via twitch streams and seen his own view of their relationship cuz like… I can’t look at bryan dechart and be like “yep hank and Connor fuck” LIKE I CANT😭😭 idk man i think im gonna believe the actors who’ve played characters in the game and the writers before anything else 🤷‍♀️

yknow what man think what you want you can’t get through to people who think this like😭 no need to respond to me again cuz we just gonna keep sayin the same shit over and over again so don’t even bother 🫶 dni with me again please and thank you 🙏

hankcon shippers GTFUU DNI 👹👹👹

sorry lemme say something for a sec like whenever I see hankcon it feels proshippy like??? that’s his kid??? like didn’t the fucking writers confirm Hank sees him as a son???😭😭 like have yall seen the stream bryan and amelia (actors who play connor and traci) did with one of the writers of dbh??? the guy literally said Hank sees him like a son???

ALSO HANK CALLS HIM SON TOO??? I know it’s like when connor is dying but like… it makes it sadder imo

also correct me if I’m wrong but like if you keep killing connor doesn’t Hank say something about how he got reminded of Cole when he saw connor hurt?

“Y'know, every time you died and came back... It made me think of Cole... I'd give anything to hold him again... But humans don't come back...” (got that from the dbh wiki)

I don’t think he’d say that if he… yknow… wanted to date connor idk man

IDK it’s just like I absolutely cannot see any romance between them it’s just like Hank and his stupid android son who likes to fuck with him for fun idk man

like the interactions they have are so father son coded LIKE??!?!!?

like when Hank drags connor away by his arm when connor gets shot at by Simon?!??! and when he reaches for connor when connor starts running towards Simon?!!!

and like some of the times when connor dies Hank just holds him and it’s like. IM GONNA CRY DUDE😭😭😭 like when you fail to put Connor’s thirium pump back in Hank just looks so sad as he holds Connor’s body 😭

okay I gotta get outta here just thought I’d put in my two cents I’ll be back soon probably just had a thought about this and had to like write it down 😛

[taffy-glitch]

Ok I finished chapter 4 last night and I had some thoughts about the Aesthetic Catholicism of it all (under the cut if you don't want to read All That)

So, from a Doylist perspective, giving the Delta Rune religion a lot of Catholic imagery makes sense- it gives the viewer/the player something familiar to relate it to, which gives an idea of what the cultural place of this religion is in the world (or at least in the town). It also grounds the setting in an interesting way- another writer might use the surface aesthetics of stained glass and Gothic architecture and leave the rest up to vibes, but Toby is very specific about it- the prayer candles, the little wells of holy water, the way that one of the dark world enemies is a freaking censer named for Balthazar- it points to a lot of thought put into this choice (and, for me, who was raised catholic, it made it all feel almost. uncomfortably familiar...)

I have no doubt Toby could have created a whole unique set of religious traditions for this fictional world, but the fact that so much of it *is* familiar allows the viewer/player to focus on what *is* unique about the religion, the really important parts- the prophecy, the knight, the angel... the lack of a concept of sin.

This is a bit less solid, but I also think it's interesting to think of the Watsonian implications as well. Alvin mentions that Asriel tried to confess to him to absolve himself (and Kris) of their sins as a child, despite there being no sin in their religion, which implies that there *does* exist a concept of sin in the wider world, which Asriel would know about from outside his immediate community.

I'd also like to point out that the Delta Rune and the prophecy existed in Undertale as well (albeit with a different prophecy), which characters clearly held some reverence to but without the churchy vibe

Considering humans and monsters have, presumably, had at least *some* more cultural exchange in this universe as opposed to the Undertale universe, could it be that they absorbed some Catholic aesthetics that way?

Anyway. I doubt this'll really be important to the narrative but it IS interesting to think about

[bunnieswithknives]

Oh I have to ask. In your Things That Crawl AU, what does Lyle think. I could see him having similar reactions to Hellen's. We know that even if it wasn't healthy, Lyle was the one who knew Sam the most, longer then anyone else, his constant stalking means he knew what Sam was like and they may have even actually worked together. I personally just can't see Lyle accepting this "New" Sam but I could be totally wrong, I'd love to here about Lyle in your au.

Oh yeah Lyle absolutely does not accept the new Sam

My first thought was that Lyle does what he always does when the going gets tough, and that's try to steal Sam's soul. I don't really like that idea though... cause either it works as both a cop-out and definitive answer to Sam's state of mind, or it doesn't and that's still an answer of some kind, which I don't want.

The alternative is really dependent on the extent of the powers I wanna give Visitor!Sam(? Idk if this is what I wanna call it but we're going with it for now) and how fucked up I want that to go.

POV: The benevolent god has an audio processing disorder and no idea what a human looks like

[indiiglow]

My thoughts on the Roaring Knight

(they're probably not gonna be very coherent)

First of all, people so confidently pointing at Carol being the Knight are wildin'

It's Dess. But not literally. I think... The Knight was made. Possibly to carry out the prophecy, but the prophecy is at least in part bullshit. I think there is a goal, and how it gets accomplished is less important - therefore making the Knight a tool that can be thrown away if absolute need be. It's about the red soul.

As for proof? Beyond the obvious antlers/summoning a bat that turns into a sword? (Carol uses a katana while the Knight's sword is shaped like a falchion. I doubt this is a pixel restriction issue, it's like that on purpose.) In chapter 4 when the gang is chasing them they act flippant. Childish. Zooming up the stairs while grinning with their hands crossed. Can you picture The Serious Mayor doing that? Or that animalistic, beastly introduction? I can't.

I think they are made from some sort of an essence? Darkness? Of a titan and a part of Dess. I hesitate to throw around any soul ideas because the whole monster soul situation in this game is already so gooddamn weird it warrants a post of it's own. Whether that means Dess herself is somewhere else or.. merged? with it I don't know.

And finally:

(that was the first thing I got when I interacted with the computer on the same route but not sure if intentional tbh bc I didn't interact with it on the prev one. but helluva coincidence ISN'T IT)

[masterchef901]

Also I've seen a few different angles of theories placing Chapter 5 as the "ending" of where the game/prophesy are "supposed" to go - most recently with the Ch 4 secret fight alluding to the story not being written past chapter 5, but also that at some point there was a teaser involving Weird Route stuff that only had brief scenes and the numbers 2, 4, and 5. That one was kind of a stretch, but it feels like it goes somewhere.

Then add onto that the fact that if we're looking to flowers for chapter 5 specifically, then we wouldn't be going to a Snowdin parallel but a ruins parallel, taking us all the way back to the flower bed the fallen human lands on. All the more fitting, since this is also where we're first (finally) going to meet Asriel all over again, at least in theory.

(Though, we may get both Ruins and Snowdin. Multi-fountain chapters are clearly possible, and if the Holiday family is involved, then a Winter Wonderland is always on the table)

What excites me about all this is what it promises for chapters 6 and 7. We're going before the beginning, getting something new, something out of bounds, finally breaking out of established parameters. Especially given the context that chapters 3, 4, and 5 were originally meant to release together I suspect the end of Chapter 5 is where we'll see something snap. It's going to be probably the most painful cliffhanger we're going to get for the entire series, and I cannot fucking wait

something that makes me extremely happy within the new chspters of deltarune, though I'm unable to formulate my full.thoights into eloquent words, is the fact both spamton and tenna connect to mettaton. spamton NEO being like. the body in the basement was mettatons design, and then tenna being given to mettaton?? i dunno, its just super cool. i love them.

[moeblob]

Kara and Nines In their own colors but the other's style.

[adastra121]

Luneth the Reluctant Unnamed

I redesigned my Unnamed!MC, Luneth.

Pronouns: She/Her Birthday: October 24 Height: 5’4 (163 cm) Personality: Monotonous Mystic Likes: Swimming, summer rain, sunrises, dancing, playing the lyre, warm bread with honey, nature walks Dislikes: Dishonesty, the sound of an untuned instrument, crowded spaces, chalk, heights Fatal Flaw: Would go to any length to fulfill her destiny Other: She is a vegetarian. She doesn’t eat meat, but she does eat animal products like cheese and milk. Quote: “This path was never meant for me.”

More about her below:

Luneth is reserved, diligent, tenacious, seemingly unfazed and emotionless (but there is a great depth hiding under her icy surface).

She is very socially awkward, will probably make many social blunders throughout the game, but she does not care much about how others might perceive her. What matters most to her is her objective — why would she concern herself with the judgement of others?

Has a sharp, cold gaze that others may find intimidating, but that’s really just her neutral expression.

She tends to be straightforward and rather blunt with her words. She isn’t a very good liar and she knows that, so if she wants to keep a secret, she usually chooses not to speak on it.

She’s slow to warm up to others but she is fiercely loyal, protective, and devoted to those who have earned her trust.

She regards carrying out one’s duty with great importance. She would go to any lengths to fulfill her purpose, even to others' and her own detriment. She would destroy the world if she believed this was her destiny. Her own desires are nothing of importance — they are not meant to exist.

Despite appearing rather serious from her monotonous demeanour, Luneth can be quite playful. She enjoys utilizing her sense of humour when she wants to invoke joy in those she considers to be her friends. Unfortunately, it can be hard to tell when she is joking so her jokes rarely land. This is much to her disappointment.

She loves dance and music, as they offered a space for her to be herself. With her abilities, her hands, and her identity promised to serving the temple and the destiny they followed, she had very little ownership over her own person. Through her dance and her music, for a short moment in time, her body and her emotions are hers.

Luneth can play the lyre and the harp. She will probably learn the piano later on — I imagine she will continue learning new dances and instruments throughout the story and afterward.

She mainly dances contemporary. I'm debating on having her do aerial silks as well, mostly for the aesthetic parallel between the silks and her bandages, winding around her limbs. But where one represents a barrier, the other sets her free.

Luneth has a fear of heights, but she's also very disciplined, so every sunrise, she would practice her lyre or harp playing on the temple's platform overlooking the waterfall.

She is not a very empathetic person, mostly because of her sheltered and isolated upbringing under the Temple of Myst. But she does lend aid where she can. She may never understand why the traveller beside her in the caravan is crying — their tears serve them no purpose now, especially out in the Wastes — but she will share bread and water with them because an emotional outburst like that drains you of liquids and nutrients.

She’s a very practical prophet.

The Temple of Myst trained her to become the perfect vessel for her gift. She’s been raised to keep her emotions in check because they can affect her power, which needs to remain pure. Untainted.

Additionally, the priests told her she was to be an instrument of destiny. She must remain neutral, detached to carry out this duty. She is not a person, she must be more than that. She is more than that. She is the hand of enlightenment.

Actually, all the difficult training paid off, because now she can sense happenings in the present and the immediate future as effortlessly as blinking. 

Like, you can be conversing with and walking beside her in a hallway and she’ll suddenly hold a hand out to catch a falling vase and set it back in place without missing a beat. Or if there’s a tripping hazard, she’ll smoothly navigate you around it.

I imagine a scenario where she and one of the LIs get into a fight with a bunch of enemies and she calmly says: “One behind the crates, two on the roof.” or “Duck.” or “Block left.”

She is not much of a fighter, but she’d be a perfect lookout or…what is the word for someone who has eyes on everything? Guide? Anyway, if she can communicate telepathically, she’ll be the voice in your head letting you know what to watch out for.

Some abilities she might have, depending on how the Unnamed origin plays out (I've played around with them because I thought they would be interesting): Clairvoyance, psychometry, spirit mediumship, telepathy.

Luneth is oblivious when it comes to innuendo. So yeah…none of Vere’s jokes landed. She just wanted her room key back.

Vere: “Don't tell me Leander already snuck out to get his knob slobbered out back.” Luneth: “Kuras is a doctor. He would not put his mouth on an unclean doorknob, it would be unhygienic.” Ais: “…I see you’ve got no comment on the dove.”

Does not understand why Leander blushes so often — is he sick? That would explain the dark circles. He should not offer to allow people to touch him if he's sick. Or perhaps he just needs to keep off the ale for a while.

She genuinely considered tying Leander up for their safety, completely unaware of the sexual connotations around it. Did not know why he was so flustered about it.

She gets frustrated sometimes. Things would be easier if people just said what they mean — but here she is, in the city of secrets.

Her entire life, she has trained for one purpose — to serve the Myst with her gift and bring enlightenment to the lost. Her path has always been clear. Now, understanding that it had all been a lie, she is thrown into the unknown.

She must discover the truth of who she is, where these destructive powers came from. And perhaps she’ll find out who she is outside of the temple.

Her MBTI is ISTJ

Her zodiac sign is Scorpio

Her enneagram is 1w9

Here is her full new design:

Woohoo! She is the MC of mine who's free of the waist sash! XD I took some loose inspiration from art nouveau architecture for her design — I felt that the flowy, but structured, designs suited her character. I was considering giving her more of a gown silhouette, but I thought this would allow her more movement for her dance style, which is mostly contemporary. And Kuras probably wanted to give her something a bit more practical to navigate the city. I might draw her in the gown version later, though! I would like to draw her in more gowns in general — I think she looks very beautiful and elegant in them.

Some songs I associate with her:

"Daughter of the Moon" by Adriana Figueroa This is the song I think of as her backstory theme. I attribute it to the creation of Luneth's character. Her backstory came clear to mind when listening to this song. A lone temple atop a waterfall, an isolated priestess among the blue waterlilies. It's an original song based off of a character who ends up sacrificing her life for others, but with Luneth, I imagined someone — the visiting mage — that refused to let her make that sacrifice and, instead, destroyed themself so that she would finally be free. So, instead of her life being the sacrifice sung about at the end, it is her love.

"All the King's Horses" by Karmina Her character theme. Could probably be a direct continuation of the previous song. Right after the visiting mage destroys her temple.

"notre dame" by Paris Paloma A bit of insight into her experience in the temple, forged into an instrument of destiny. She may be held with great importance as the hand of enlightenment, but the pedestal can be as lonely as the high bell tower.

"Journey" by Aphrodite Patoulidou and Theodore Koumartzis Lyre playing and singing voice reference.

"The Calling" by The Amazing Devil Her story theme. I imagine you can hear the echoes of the visiting mage, encouraging her to be more than what everyone has insisted was her destiny. She can be more than destiny. She can be a person.

“Manike” by Jubin Nautiyal, Surya Ragunaathan, and Yohani Her love theme. I can imagine her dancing a duet to this song.

“Quixotic” by Seo Jayeong Her battle theme. Most of the songs I associate with her build up, like the music is rising with her.

[natasha-in-space]

So I'm replaying Ray's After ending rn, and it got me thinking that what I adore so much about Rika as an antagonist is just how damn scary she can be. I always found those who cause harm with good intentions (at least in their point of view) much scarier than those who hurt you with pure intention on hurting you. I think the best example of it is this CG in particular:

Look at that. Such a loving, gentle expression on her face. Probably kissing his forehead. Because she loves him. Heck, without any context, this CG looks even sweet, if you think about it. And yet, all that is while Saeyoung is forcefully sedated on a powerful concoction of drugs even a trained agent like him can't do anything about (and Saeyoung WAS definitely trained to deal with this sort of thing, hence it's mentioned that this is a 'special' kind of drugs). He looks miserable. Bags under his eyes, his expression pained and troubled, even his hair is paler than usual. All that as a direct result of her actions. But she's utterly blind to it. What's scarier, is that she knowingly shuts off her understanding of what's really happening. She's not oblivious to it at all. She just chooses not to see it that way. Simply because she doesn't want to.

Rika is the type of antagonist that will cup your cheek into her warm hand with the most loving of smiles on her face, all while you are getting elixir poured down your throat. Even whispering to you that you're doing great, that the pain will soon pass, and that she can't wait to see you reach the happiness she knows you deserve. I won't be surprised if she even cried genuine tears of compassion during some ceremonies for her believers. All while being the sole reason behind their suffering.

And that's... God, that's terrifying to me. I love that about her.

Rika Kim, they could never make me hate you

[fungus-no69]

DOL: The Visual Novel

aka. I Need to Nuke This Town!

Including many pcs from the pcverse!! (that i didn't draw.) Here you can interact with, potentially fight and get insane mental damage from desperate orphans in your area!

Coming out never

Inspired by this post!!!

Ummmm pcs included

Cain and Will: me

Yunie: @wreckowafer

Angel: @ladyofalabyrinth

Nico: @psychophanticpervert

[phantasmatoucan]

HEY GUYS I MADE SOMETHING EVIL AGAIN.... THIS ONE WILL HAVE SOME WARNINGS THO, ITS OPPY/CHEATED RELATED lol

[rosiathemagician]

Guys, I am sorry but since they mentioned the Silent Crypts I am hyperfixating on necromancer Leander and you won't change my mind

[heyacris]

Can't sleep right now, I'm daydreaming about hypothetical routes and the good and bad endings to a Blush Blush visual novel