#invader zim rant

[zadr-lover]

What I Love About ZaDr mostly a rant about one ep cuz i do not have friends to talk to about this so you all most suffer.

They are perfect assholes for each other.

Like they are both miss understood outcast, even the ones who they are to look up to are ashamed of them because the way they think and act on things.

They are also both very toxic assholes who need each other. Like moppieness of doom! Zim gets depression and all his care for his mission just went away! Because Dib did not chase him or look at him. He even went to listen or watch the new with Dib being show and sigh and said so sad hearing his name! He even had papers with dib all over it. Zim even declared he would not become lazy or smoopy because the dib didn't try to chase him or get in his way and he should be able to rule cuz he is zim! yet moments later he goes to lay down on the couch because with no enemies what is the point? Dib getting the attention of his father was a plus for this Ep but also Dib was not that happy about it. He kept being gloomy and not fitting in there as well. Even know he and his father started doing so many amazing things like cure for the common cold! that was a cool detail to learn. But after all of that Dib was still not happy. But was doing it because it made his dad happy They both are in pain not physical but emotionally ! Like We do not see zim get upset much in the show but in this one. He legits cries and ask "Why does thing want to hurt zim" I know you can counter it with the fact he's crying over snacks but Shut Up I'm trying make a point here.

Even in the labs dib wounder where Zim is notching he has not been to school lately then tries to play it off like it doesnt matter. "Does not matter anymore. everything has changed expect talking to myself" i really love that part when dib even admits that he talk to himself which is beautiful btw. Anyways I also Know Gir only wanted Dib to hunt zim again to get the couch back. But even the dumb little guy knew that they are destined for each other! "Listen to me, He needs you Mary you two such good friends" like gir even points out how good they are for each other even if it's haunting and casing each other.

{SIDE NOTE: FUCKING LOVE THE WAY MEMBRANE HAS ROCKET BOOTS AND JUST COMES DOWN TO DIB TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING IS HOT TO ME OKAY}

but also even if dib made a small mistake on the formula and stuff he was working on. membrane noticed it as a cry for help which sucks but, i do enjoy that he realizes his son is not happy and something is troubling him. Membrane telling him to do what ever it takes to fix the problem and dib gets the wide eyes we all fucking love and agrees with his dad, that he needs to fix the problem! "I fell empty inside! This real science bores me to death! Maybe I am not doing what I meant to do! Because what I'm meant to do is catch me that alien!"

Dib realizes at this point after talking to his father, he's only truly happy when he is a full outcast cashing an alien invader. {LOVE THE FACE PLANT MEMBRANE DOES ONCE DIB RUN OUT THE LAB}

The fact they both trash talk each other once dib came into the base and it was more of a playful banter then anything and they laugh as they do so. They seem happy to be by each other sides even if they are enemies.

anyways thank you for letting me rant. i love these guys so much.

[emerlovesinvaderzim]

Okay, I understand if anyone disagrees with me on this but I think the Invader Zim fandom is pretty shitty. You know the way people always say there's always a quiet majority and a loud minority? Well this is different. This time it's a loud majority and quiet minority situation. Zim is the main protagonist of this show, is he a good character? No. Does he have flaws? Yes. Do characters need flaws? Yes. Is it good that Zim has flaws? Yes it is. But does the fandom treat his flaws like they're even flaws at all? No, they don't.

The fandom obsesses over Zim and acts like there's nothing wrong with his character. He was seen committing terrorism throughout the show and he acts like he's better than everyone and throws them (Including his robot GIR) under the bus yet they'll always comment on how "cute and small" he is and how everyone just wants to hug him. (even though he'll most likely kill you if you do.) You can still like Zim but please acknowledge that he isn't a good person. He has narcissistic personality disorder.

However, Zim's arch nemesis, Dib Membrane, who is the main antagonist of the show, is also a terrible person. He wants to expose Zim for fame and money and is often seen bullying or picking on Zim at school however the fandom actually acknowledges that Dib is in the wrong for this and people tend to hate him a lot because of this. I know there's a lot of Dib fans out there (myself included.) but even they're able to critique his character and understand he's asshole but Zim's fans don't seem to do the same with Zim. This really annoys me. I've seen people who'll hate Dib for his selfish and entitled behavior but then they'll love Zim for the same reasons. What the fuck?

I had someone tell me Dib being a terrible person is overlooked while Zim being terrible isn't, which isn't anywhere near true. I explained to them why and they just gave me a skull emoji and said "It's not that hard to comprehend, I've seen media where Dib is easy going, chill and nice where as Zim is a huge dickhead." I have never seen that and they never even showed me any proof of fans doing that. There's literally a whole AU called "The lovebug AU" where Zim is a sweet and kind little guy with wings and Dib is mean and cruel. I have never seen an AU where it's the other way around. I have read a read fanfictions where he's a portrayed as this high school chad who's racist and misogynistic and I even read a fic where he was pro-life. I never read any fics where Zim is portrayed that way. The person wasn't lying when they said Zim is portrayed as mean though but when he is portrayed as mean, it's meant to be in a cute and light hearted funny way and when I see Dib portrayed as nice, it's in a dumb and creepy way.

There's a comic called "Trainwreck" (it's a Zim x Dib comic incase you're uncomfortable) where Dib is portrayed as a dumbass and crazy obsessed stalker while Zim, is mean yes, but is also chill and just wants to go about his own day and his cruelty is kinda glamourized as humor in this comic. I also have read stories where they've abused each other but when Dib abused Zim, it wasn't glamourized or made funny but when Zim did it to Dib, it was. This one fanfic had Zim abuse Dib and he held a grudge against him (as he should) but the comments where calling Dib salty for refusing to forgive him and they said they wanted to slap him while I was wanting to slap Zim.

Same with Gaz, I can understand her anger and see why she finds Dib annoying but she's no better than him. She constantly abuses him physically and emotionally yet their dad does nothing about this. I know Dib has also done bad things to her and he has no excuse for doing that. He put a curse on her in one episode and she had every right to be mad at him. I have seen no one defend him for doing that, everyone was pretty mad at him for doing that. Also just because Dib is mean to Gaz doesn't give her the excuse to actively try to make his life more miserable than already is everyday. They're both toxic towards each other and they both make life harder for each other, we need to end the harmful standard that men can't be abused.

I don't hate Zim or Gaz, they're actually two of my favourite characters. I can still critique characters I like, that doesn't make me like them less. I'm still able to critique Dib and I have done it throughout this rant. I won't disregard anyone's experience with the fandom, I promise. They're are Zim and Gaz stans who are able to understand that they're both terrible characters and there are Dib stans who are toxic and won't accept that he's also a terrible character too. It's Invader Zim, everyone in this show is a terrible person. Not just Zim, not just Dib, everyone. The only one who isn't terrible is GIR. I'm just expressing how I feel and what I have seen with in the fandom, please don't take this personally and feel free to disagree with me.

[iodotsys]

Dib is NOT impressed with Human Centipede.

Zim is extremely concerned how much thought Dib is putting into this.

[frammyjammy]

What does this mean? You decide!

[piggiebonez]

do you guys rememember bill. he was funny broooo

me nephew i drew a while ago. i wasnt plannign on posting this but whatevor eat it

the vid bill is referencing if you havent seen it already

entering a period when i cant draw shit again cuz UNIVERSITy. killikng myself etc. whatevar

[looney-mooney-studio]

Someone said something about any character, no matter the art style, feeling like it belongs in Amazing World of Gumball. So.

Yeah they ain’t lyin those guys really do feel like they go there

Actually, what if I…

Oh this is FUN

[millytheclown]

Hey y’all deranged post here

If you ship ZADR in a weird way (like aging them both up (in the nsfw sense) or having Zim be the adult and Dib being a child) literally get off my blog your actually gross

Zim is a child (he goes to school with Dib, acts like one, talks like one and in general is a child) and there are plenty of characters who are YEARS old and who are still children (The collector, that one genshin character, Etc) Not to mention that space works differently than earth (No Duh.)

Now if I see any proshippers spout any nonsense or anyone saying ZADR is proship I will actually blow you up.

ALSO DNI PROSHIP IF IT WASNT OBVIOUS.

[lincolnlogsnfrogs]

i literally love dark harvest so much i love that fucked up chase scene i love that damn pigeon and i especially love how fast dib goes from "omg i wanna move in with zim and wear his clothes ;3 (no homo tho lol)" to "oH dEAR gOD hE'S iN tHE vENTS" i will cherish this beautiful nightmare forever

[looney-mooney]

Guys I just had the SILLIEST Invader Zim thought. I think that, if Zim actually did his job and told the Tallest about the resources Earth could provide, they’d wanna keep us around. Why? Because, what’s the one thing that humans do that no other species on Earth does?

We cook.

And what’s the one thing the Tallest care about more than anything else?

Snacks.

We could make them potato chips. Veggie straws. Peanut butter chocolate cups. Truffle fries. Banana splits. Homemade ice cream soda floats. Strawberry shortcake. Ramen. Taquitos. And, like, a kajillion other snacks that GIR (their creation) is already addicted to that they would fucking ADORE. Tell them about the snacks, Zim!!

[b0ylik3r]

why was there a proshipper defending r*pe and age gap ships in the zadr tag

[ms-scarletwings]

Oh to be a confused stranger who gets randomly approached by Zim looking for somewhere to vent about whatever’s pissing him off that particular day

[doodle-doodie-doo]

mmmm look at all those yummy peas *cutely gets out a spoon and eats them all*

[the-lavender-room]

Sometimes, the hypocrisy these fandoms makes me want to crack my skull open and use my brain like a stress ball.

Why are the adults infantilized and their crimes are brushed off, but when the child/kid-ish character even gets upset they are irredeemable.

[imaginesangie]

Some ZADR fans are so fuckin weird to me FR. Like, ZADR is abusive, toxic, manipulative, and has a huge age gap regardless of the maturity of the two characters.

Like for some reason all of that is FINE until we get to the age gap part. Like yeah Zim and Dib may have tried to murder each other multiple times but shipping them with their age gap is SCANDALOUS!

It’s just some blorbos I can promise you the way you choose to ship them does not matter that much

[short-and-ugly]

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IDC ABOUT THEIR AGES THATS A WHOLE NOTHER DEBATE THAT I HAVE NO REAL PREFERENCE TO BUT SKOODGE IS NOT SHORTER THAN ZIM IN HOBO 13 THIS IS AN ANIMATION ERROR. SKOODGE IS MEANT TO BE SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN ZIM. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ZIMS CHARACTER.

he probably looks all squeeshed because the art book has a height chart in it (presumably what the artists used for reference) and it does this shit to him

horrid. wretched.

[letdibtravel]

LET HIM GO TO THERAPY (the therapist is Nagito ranting abt hope lol)

Therapy with Nagito, My ibispaint void