#jonathan nolan

[evilwvergil]

"I'm simply going to harvest your organs." - F A L L O U T ( 11.04.2024 )

[nightingaelic]

I guess I don't really care if the Fallout series on Amazon presents a different take on the canon, but I do care if they fuck up the themes about capitalism and nationalism, and I care about this

[shesnake]

Robots don't kill people. People kill people.

Westworld season 3 episode 1 "Parce Domine" (2020) dir. Jonathan Nolan

[delosdestinations]

"We wanted to make a show about consciousness; the kind of boastful ambition that works when you're pitching--and then falls apart when you find yourself trying to figure it out. There were few guides. Philosophers who'd lost their tenure. Computer scientists who'd lost their stock options. Guesses. Expletives. Crackpot theories. Hands wrung or simply thrown in the air. Even now, humans know more about what lies at the bottom of a supermassive black hole than the dark center of our minds.

But there are clues: language, semiotics; the distance between the notions rattling around in our minds and the ways in which we share them, and the ways in which humans share ideas between each other.

There's a language older than language, though. One that predates the written word or even the spoken one. Music. Its effects on people are fascinating--raw, direct, like an older interface that bypasses the newer, clunkier inputs. What music may lack in nuance versus spoken language, it more than gains in emotive power, as if transmitting emotion directly into the brain. If a picture is worth a thousand words, the right chord progression might reach nine figures.

So for our series about consciousness, we knew the music would be vital--and that we had the man for the job. Fittingly, Ramin's journey as a composer had been launched, in part, by Elmer Bernstein's achingly brilliant theme for The Magnificent Seven. Here he got to take a detour into the future in order to find his way back to the West.

He wanted to use guitars. We wanted piano (because the player piano had been the original western robot) and he gamely went along. I remember the themes as they came alive, anointing each character, imbuing them with even more depth and power. The craft and performances that came together for the series were all hard won--Ramin's music hooked everything to an undertoe of menace, melancholy and beauty.

As for Ramin's arrangements of contemporary music, they served two purposes; first, as a gentle reminder that our story was being told in the future tense, not the past. And second, as manipulation. If music is evocative, then music you've heard before takes on another dimension, dipping into circuits of lived experience and harnessing their power. A song you've listened to after a triumph or a breakup--even one rendered in a different timbre or arrangement--still has a grip on you. One that Ramin could pluck at, like the strings on his guitar. We spent four seasons exploring these questions and the closest we came to understanding consciousness--at least the variety that afflicts humans--is that any attempt to explain it without incorporating emotion is pointless.

The show is long since over. But I find myself whistling Ramin's timeless theme. Often. And I smile. That's the power of this music: that the indelible experiences of making Westworld, all of the incredible people who were part of it, all the days spent chasing the sun and capturing it on film, can all be conjured, instantly, in 8 perfectly chosen notes.

Westworld never died. It simply became music."

Jonathan Nolan, Executive Producer Liner Notes from Westworld: Season 4 (Music from the HBO Series) Vinyl

[nicollekidman]

two pretty best friends

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[new-world-mutation]

Walton Goggins and Jonathan Nolan interview for IMDb, Fallout press junket at SWSX 2024

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Interstellar, 2014

[doloresabernathysworld]

Finished Person of Interest season 3, and boy oh boy what a ride! I'm honestly kicking myself for not having watched when it was airing, but I really thought it was just another procedural crime drama like we had at the time (and like there's still plenty of those, but they're not really my cup of tea).

But that sent me kind of into a rabbit hole about its end and why I've never seen reruns of it where I live. I mean, I get it that there are factors in TV distribution and licencing, but to this day I see constant reruns of shows like Castle, Criminal Minds, CSI, NCIS, and the such. The fact that the network seemed to stop having interest in POI after it became more of a serial than procedural and the fact that viewership also declined after that is very telling imo.

It also made me really mad, because it reminded me of what happened with Westworld, and I can't help to feel sad and angry on behalf of Jonathan Nolan since capitalism and network policies seem to keep getting in his way and not letting him finish the stories he (alongside with other people) wants to tell.

I really do hope that the upcoming Fallout series is successful, and most of all I really hope he gets the chance to finally fully realize his vision.

[arbutus-blossoms]

Hey, sorry, weird question, but what happened with Reddit and Westworld? Did the creators of Westworld change something about the show's future storylines because a redditer guessed what was going to happen?

So Westworld had a gigantic audience of 12 million, and it's surprising because this was HBO's attempt for a new tentpole franchise when Game of Thrones was going downhill.

A subreddit spawned, I was in it as a viewer capacity and there was a lot of speculation. Star Ward level of speculation. Which is good , if your show is good, you want them engaged.

So a bunch of redditors had guessed ( Spoilers) that Ed Harris was playing the Current version of Man in Black, and Jimmy Simpson was the younger version of Man in Black , William. That they were the same character.

And that's because the first season was actually beautifully crafted. Including one scene where Younger William enters the park for the first time, and debated choosing a Black or White cowboy hat. This is a simple storytelling device, character is nice, naive, believes in the good in the world, circumstances makes him lose that humanity. Then it made sense for William to be MIB, wearing the black cowboy hat. But until you saw the entire series it could be brushed off. But once you saw it, it made so much sense.

This is during the height of GOT, Star Wars when speculation and the need for twists and turns were paramount. Felt like you needed to outsmart the viewers if you want to be a good showrunner.

During that time, Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy have an interview to an audience, which they said things in a joking manner. But in the age of digital social media, things go fast. Especially if it's only a text blurb and people didn't see the actual clip

Turns out to be a tongue in cheek joke. But the damage was done and it spread everywhere.

They also decided to do a prank to reveal the all the spoilers of season 2, turns out they made a rickroll video to Redditors as a light-hearted joke.

With that said, season 2 started but there was a lot of thing that seemed off in the show, it started to get even more conveluted.

Multiple spanning timelines. The show also started to get more and more philosophical. Because the show is about Robots ( Hosts) , you never know if a character is a robot as well. So that could feel like a cheap gimmick.

Also it's not only focused on Westworld anymore, it spanned outside to the real world , making a show called Westworld...not Westworld ( even though the Old Westworld movie had multiple theme park sections as well)

I also worked in Marketing, I also want to take the hunch, that General Audience ( Not the hardcore Human Philosopher/ai/spirit/High Art viewer ) wanted to just watch Robots vs Humans and the drama surrounding that, not get too deep in the human subconscious.

But the showrunners made it felt they added twists and turns so much, maybe to outsmart said Redditors? ( As I said, joke or not right?) That the general audience started to be confused and lost interest

The show then went from season 1 with a staggering of 12 million viewers, to season 4 measly few million. And this is HBO rolling the red carpet for Nolan and Joy.

I feel, if you're a showrunner, you need to be careful because anything you say will be dissected and spread like wildfire, and sometimes written articles don't convey tone, especially if it's a joke, that click bait newest and even well known journals can run with. This you can clearly see if you are part of the Marvel fandom.

All of this is sad because Westworld season 1 was so beautifully crafted and written. But because of all of this, as a viewer, you're left wondering if Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy were genuinely trying to craft a twist because the story needed it, or done it for the shock and confuse viewers even more.

Nerdwriter went more in details on it's fall.

This is why I am a bit worried about the TV Fallout Series because they are the executive producers and also Nolan directed some episodes.

This is also why there is so many similar vibes to Westworld, especially MIB to The Ghoul, Dolores Abernathy to Lucy Maclean and so on as I posted on my Tumblr

Both Fallout and Westworld had the gaming aspect where your character could choose to be good, mid , or evil. As Westworld, humans can go in to just explore an enchanting Western theme park, but some are deviants and they go there to unleash their deepest desires.

The only hope I have is that Fall Out is a franchise, they have rules and lore.

Then again Star Wars had rules and lore but they retconned and brought back dead characters just for reusing legacy characters to make more money...

So yeah just my two cents 🥴

[evilwvergil]

Fallout (2024) is the story of haves and have-nots in a world in which there’s almost nothing left to have. 200 years after the apocalypse, the gentle denizens of luxury fallout shelters are forced to return to the irradiated hellscape their ancestors left behind — and are shocked to discover an incredibly complex, gleefully weird and highly violent universe waiting for them.

[abnerkrill]

Christopher Nolan and Jonathan Nolan picketing with the WGA at Paramount Pictures!

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Just finished watching Fallout, and spoilers, but I just gotta say, I absolutely LOVE that they're making Vault Tec the main villains of the series. :D

Like I remember a few years ago I made a post about how I hoped the next game would feature Vault Tec as the main villains, but everyone commenting on it said how that would never happen as other then the Vaults there was no Vault Tec anymore.

Well, VINDICATION. Hehe.

But yeah, I love so much what they're doing here, and what they revealed about Vault Tec's hand in the end of the world. That boardroom scene in the last episode, where they're just talking excitedly about all the sick experiments they plan on running on the people in the vaults. Just disgusting. Really ran home how evil the company was. Not that we needed more evidence of that of course.

But yeah, very happy I got my wish for main villain Vault Tec. I mean sure it's not happening in a game, but really I kinda like it being done in a show better. This may wind up being the most important story in the Fallout universe by it's end and really I'm not sure I'd trust Bethesda to handle it anymore.

Basically what I'm saying is, In Jonathan Nolan we Trust. lol

[shesnake]

lisa joy and jonathan nolan on the set of westworld season 2 (2018)

[kaipanzero]

The Prestige (2006)

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everyone unhinged for twink Christopher Nolan