#kel dor conlang

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

Good morning! I have a keldeorinyaa insult for y'all.

tatva di tanjen tta bekssisän.

[tah-tvah dii tahn-zhen chah bek-shi-san]

Literally translated, it means: You are the descendant of sea creatures.

Colloquially translated, it means: You have no fucking manners.

You can drop the tatva di part, that's just the pronoun. bekssisän means descendant, or junior member of a bloodline; you might refer to your assorted younger relatives as this, although if you aren't emotionally close to them it takes on shades of insult - this is a strong speech word.

tanjen has a more detailed post coming - long story short, it means 'sea creatures'. Lots of Dorin's sea creatures are either food or will turn you into food, and frequently both qualities co-exist...

[exosorcery]

KELDEORIN'YAA WORD OF THE DAY

HASSADURRA (N) - Lightning rod

KOMESSI - (PHR) - Very informal expression of sympathy, more or less "RIP, my dude."

Don't be too concerned about the dude, though. Kel' Dor survive lightning strikes. A lot.

In fact there is a whole clan on Dor'in with a name that essentially expresses "They Who Survive Lightning" - because many members of their clan (in particular) get struck and then live to tell about it.

It might be a force quirk, nobody's sure.

Many thanks to @plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows for the Keldeorin'yaa Conlang Dictionary which you can access here:

keldeorinyaa conlang dictionary - Google Sheets

[dukeoftheblackstar]

got any plo koon fic recs? looking for some new stuff that's good. one shots and long fics welcome! I'll take anything i can get

Shamelessly promoting my own:

Dom!Plo ask by yours truly, submitted by the lovely @mild-disorganization

Some tired dad!Plo headcanons maybe?

And for some that I have read and adored:

Plo Koon Masterlist by @my-head-is-an-animal (Mixed)

Thigh Kink with Plo by @saradika (NSFW)

Not a fic, but hella spice by @saradika (SFW & NSFW)

Friendship - Plo Koon & Wolffe by @wild-karrde (SFW)

PloKit Art (their entire blog) by @uiro-mgmg1 (NSFW - mostly art)

SFW & NSFW Alphabets for Plo by @samspenandsword

My favorite ♥:

Sovereign (PloKit, idk if you're into it, but I am) by @tits-fisto (NSFW but very wholesome)

The Tiniest Councilor by Quiet_Shadow (SFW)

Name and Soul by @decepticonsensual (SFW)

Haven't read but is on queue when I have the mood and will power to actually read and not thirst for our Kel Dor Emperor ♥

of claws and tusks by my bestiecakes ♥ @saengak <- Apparently, it's hella angsty and I reserve the angst for weekend when I'm not out here thirsting for this King.

in deditionem by my bestiecakes ♥ @saengak <- I've seen them write ♥, it makes me squeeeeeeee ♥

Helium by @cynderiaopus who also made my current bomb AF pfp of Plo steepling ♥

Other materials and interesting read:

@exosorcery has very interesting comics and posts about Kel Dors in general. Here's one specific of Plo Koon:

A few faves from them:

@veny-many for their AUs and Plo Koon & Wolfpack Art (also includes others) <- Presenting you the bebbis ♥

My faves:

The entire post AU 66 where Plo lives is a quintessential to any post AU 66 imho because I'm heavily invested in this and I'm about to cry because I need to organize my bookmarks (and update this) so I can give you the proper start to fin link.

I'd post more from @veny-many and @exosorcery, but if you spend a good 10 minutes scrolling, you'll be there forever. Quality art content!

You may also want to check World building and ConLang Kel Dor study, apart from their OC x Plo Koon art. Big thanks for this neat document by @plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows

[[ @plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows I hope it's okay to share. If not, I can take it down ♥ ]]

So far just these at the top of my head. Thank you for the Plo-related ask :D! I enjoyed sifting through my bookmarks ♥

Don't forget to give love and reblog, comment, follow these amazing people who do so much for the Plo Koon, Dorin, Kel Dor tags ♥

[bylightofdawn]

This chapter is mostly Jaster HC and I feel bad for my boy. But guys there's actual...gasp JasPlo in my JasPlo fanfic. I STG I will write a coda or spinoff fic which is just going to be Jaster and Plo being disgustingly fluffy together because the lack of Jaster and Plo actually spending time together in this stupid fic is bordering on false advertising at this point. (It's not, I am exaggerating somewhat)

This also sums up my thoughts on the scene I'm writing.

Jaster: -comes in and sees Plo there after a really exhaustive talk and really needs a hug-

Plo: -hugs him- Do you want to talk?

Jaster: No. -proceeds to talk about it anyway-

Plo: -hugs him more and just lets him talk into his shoulder without saying a thing-

Meanwhile, I'm picking up the clown nose Jaster dropped because my dude.

EDIT: I’m debating just making up bullshit at this point and making up some Kel Dor words cause Jaster has all this luscious canon Mando’a to draw upon and poor Plo has nothing. I want him to have a term of endearment for Jaster GDI. What we know about Kel Dor's homeworld of Dorin though is it’s got super crazy storms and stuff which is why I had Plo use a made-up comment earlier in this fic about ‘storm winds preserve me’ or something like that.

So I kinda envision things like air and stuff having a powerful meaning to them. As in their atmosphere is legit so shit they had to evolve to survive where no other oxygen-breathing creature could exist. So I want it to mean something like ‘breath of my lungs’ or something along those lines. I of course have no clue how to actually make a conlang. Thus the extreme bullshitting part here.

[thebaran-dolinguist]

Okay, now I'm wondering if the Kel-Dor have differing spoken and written languages. Speech-wise, a lot of traditional, humanoid things just can't or won't mesh with their anatomy. However, their biggest import is technology and I like to imagine that they're a species of historians and spiritual archivists(Since they're one of the oldest sentient species in the galaxy and have been around since before the Jedi existed), so they probably have a very basic spoken language, possibly a modified form of their written, meant more for quickly conveying language as concisely as possible and another, much more detailed one for the sake of clarity in archived, written information(They could use Basic but I like to think they're too insular to use it with their sacred texts and stuff despite teaching it to their children).

Why am I doing this to myself, this is my first attempt at conlanging. I always have ideas far too big for my sphere of knowledge. :U

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

I've figured for ages that Little 'Soka is more or less a direct translation of a keldeorinyaa endearment, but until now I haven't thought about what that endearment might actually be!

Answer: gepetka sosoka.

gepetka is simple: the word gep, meaning 'young' + etka, the gentle agent suffix.

sosoka is how Ahsoka's name would be nicknameified in keldeorinyaa - basically, pick a pleasing syllable and duplicate it. Ahsoka's name is three syllables, compared to native kel dor names which are almost always two syllables or less, so she loses a syllable in the process.

On a related note... Plo's childhood nickname was laolao, and Sha would have been ssassa. :D

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

some kel dor conlang terms of endearment for @dukeoftheblackstar! :D I have 6 to start with, but I will add more at some point! (

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kissi — (n.) /ki.ʃi/ — 'my love', 'my dear', a fairly basic and very common term of endearment, used in romantic and close platonic relationships alike. Can be used ironically or sarcastically, like the English term 'bestie'.

ssinaan — (n.) /ʃi.na:n/ — 'lover', 'beloved', also fairly basic but less common, used only between lovers.

iminssinyana — (n.) /i.min.ʃin.ja.na/ — a very saccharine term of endearment, mainly used between lovers, from the words iminyana (bright) and ssinon (love).

de minaa — (n.) /de.mi.na:/ — 'my moon', often de giya minaa (my little moon), used broadly for a lover or a treasured friend. You use the de directional particle for relationships between people, rather than either of the genitives.

kyairai, kyairayetka — (n.) /kʲai.ɾai/, /kʲai.ɾa.jet.ka/ — literally 'spouse', but cutesy forms of the word. Has the same vibe as 'hubby' or 'wifey', perhaps.

koossek — (n.) /ku:.ʃek/ — literally a sort of sweet seafood pastry or dumpling, but commonly used as an affectionate diminutive, sort of like 'sweetie' or 'baby'. Used broadly with all relationship types.

nessi — (n.) /ne.ʃi/ — literally 'hatchling', an infant still sealed within the broodpouch. Used exclusively by parents for their children, for obvious reasons.

dakidakaanhi — (n.) /da.ki.da.ka:n.hi/ — literally 'my nonsense baby'; a very colloquial babytalk-ish term of endearment used exclusively by parents for their children. The joke is that your kid is so cute it has reduced you to speaking absolute nonsense! You can use the same endearment on your grown-up children, except then it's probably at least 50% teasing lol.

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

pffffft

ok so i was trying to come up with a word for 'clone' in keldeorinyaa, right? after many failures i finally thought of uanyaan, from the roots 'reflection' and 'person'.

the catch is that this is DEFINITELY going to sound like 'onion' to Basic speakers. i.e., the clones. skjhgdfkjhs

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

kel dor proverb: there are no strangers in a storm.

baran di nadiyeh nna, kvorokyaan orodi ya.

more literally....

[storm][topic marker][to come/go-ongoing][time frame particle][stranger][is not][moral particle]

"When a storm is coming, you must not be strangers."

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

exciting news! the kel dor conlang lexicon is at almost 1000 words apparently!

some fav recent additions:

gadinai — (vb.) // — to celebrate uproariously; to riot; [colloquial] to really lose one’s shit

kayamassi — (vb.) // — to persist, to keep going; largely used for encouragement, esp. cheering for a favourite sports team: kayamassi ge!

kolmagel — (n.) // — atmospheric pressure-sense, housed in the sensory horns (kolmi); air pressure

kyaogheran — (n.) // — warm outer garment similar to a poncho or a greatkilt, often woven with symbolic patterns or embroidered to show clan or village loyalties

nolna — (n.) // — heat-inducing spices as a class; a plant which produces chemicals kel dor perceive as spicy (and other species perceive as disgusting)

tsipangiri — (vb.) // — to have faith in a person; to be emotionally intimate with someone, to trust them with the details of your life (compare angiri, to simply trust someone to do their damn job)

tvaoruni — (vb.) // — to be at a standstill, to stagnate; [colloquial] to be bored comatose

uani karaak — (n.) // — a spirit of the sea mist said to appear in the guise of one’s loved ones to lead unwary travellers into the sea

zaygeli — (vb.) // — to make sweet, to cover with sugar; [colloquial] to sweeten a deal, to bribe, to entice with rewards, to go out of one’s way to be nice (in hope of reward, it is implied)

zikulikan — (n.) // — ceremonial dances performed on festival days; different dances are performed by different groups, and those performed by the Baran Dao can last for hours or even days.

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

whooooo wants some keldeorinyaa slang??

some of these are regular levels of informal. some are strong speech (rrumyarinyaa) a register of formality used to denote... informality lmao. It means familial intimacy (and also real bold flirting, and also picking a fight).

koysaa = "thank you", but fairly casual and informal. Comes from kohti aysaa, which is the more formal thankyou. Both are broadly appropriate for everyone.

gisi = "chur bro" [strong speech]. also means thankyou, but with much more of a casual vibe. Do Not confuse this with gisiya, which is 'little sister'.

komessi = more or less "rip my dude" [strong speech]. used to express sympathy in a very casual way... or to laugh at someone's misfortune.

messi de = more or less "sucks to be you I guess" [strong speech]. does not express sympathy, so much as that you probably should have seen whatever it was coming. Carries strong connotations of a self-inflicted injury, or the natural consequences of a stupid fuckin idea.

both of the above come from kohti messinai, a semiformal expression of sympathy. Where english uses "I'm sorry" to express both fault and sympathy, keldeorinyaa distinguishes between the two.

komez = "oops my bad." [strong speech]. Comes from kogonati komezakhai de, the formal expression of owning up to your own bullshit. komez can be used genuinely, to apologise for something relatively minor between friends and family... or it can be used when you aren't actually sorry and just want to be a dick.

lekde = literally means 'next', as in "seeya next time!" Informal but broadly appropriate for everyone.

leksana di = "seeya soon!" Contraction of lekde ksana ditta, more or less the same thing. Also informal but broadly appropriate - use this when you're know you're gonna be seeing them again soon.

ssaapage = "piss off!" (affectionate, usually). [strong speech]. Use this when your best buddy is hanging around past his welcome and you're tryna sleep cause you got work in the morning, or something. Like most strong speech, this tends to be used with intimate friends/family and carries connotations of 'with love' as a result, but you can also use it to tell assholes to fuck off.

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

I have managed to get myself back into the fandom at least for the purposes of continuing work on the kel dor conlang, and I'm having a lot of fun coming up with starwarsy example sentences for the particles section on my spreadsheet.

For example:

keldeorinyaa: nak tsalayssa di kohkiyari ksango kai tebansa tari. English: This farm has roughly twelve thousand banthas.

Or:

keldeorinyaa: er di veyrani oro tari. (tari tya.) English: I haven't got an airspeeder. (I wish I had one.)

Orrrr my personal fav...

keldeorinyaa: ttansala yajje, zilaoghat ikapsudal. English: As for the Chancellor, he was eaten by the Zillo Beast.

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

putting together some headcanons for coruscant's kel dor district and i'm trying to decide what to call it lmao. options so far are kondeorssanya and halmiade indeornao but i'm not totally sold on either yet, hmmm

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

i have now added some IPA and grammar / verb conjugation notes to the kel dor conlang spreadsheet. I am going to go cook dinner and hopefully add more after i eat. :D

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

pottering around with keldeorinyaa grammar again. idk what it is about SOV word order, I just vibe with it. XD

i'm realising I have an order in my head for the placement of the comment... bits, and i need to sit down and figure out what it is lmao. here's the sentences in the screencap since the image quality is not great:

keldeorinyaa ⸻ kiv di deorssan i keli ksoli kon de nadal. English ⸻ The child went away to Dorshan on foot.

keli is actually a verb (to walk) but here it's describing a mode of transport so it gets treated as a noun instead. kon de nadi is the important verb here; nadi means 'to go/come' so you add kon de for someone going away from you, and nak de for someone coming towards you.

keldeorinyaa ⸻ er di jedi tta padawan zaaki andiyeh. English ⸻ I am learning to be a padawan of the Jedi Order.

Organizational titles (like 'Order' here) frequently get dropped in less formal speech because usage of the particle tta makes it obvious that you're talking about that sort of thing. You use tta to indicate belonging to a greater cause, a large-scale social grouping, a family, or perhaps a maker - it declares allegiance. tta and ta can both translate to 'my', but you would not say er ta siladalge for 'my family' unless you wanted to be incredibly rude to said family. You don't possess family, you belong to it.

keldeorinyaa ⸻ er de gepdalge di eyardek ki oysitarre (a) ikazdiyeh. English ⸻ My younger siblings are eating crabcakes and oysters.

keldeorinyaa has different words for siblings that are older than you (sokodal) vs. siblings that are younger (gepdal). Again, we're not using ta for family; de gets used here because we're talking about a specific relationship.

eyar means 'crab'. eyardek is a pastry sandwich of sorts filled with crabmeat and spices. oysitarre means 'oysters', and it's a loanword. There is exactly one sort of oysterlike thing on Dorin and they're regrettably venomous. On the other hand, there are many crablike things, many of which taste excellent and are far less likely to painfully murder you.

The -ge in gepdalge and the -rre in oysitarre are plural forms. -ge is the plural suffix for clan, non-clan family, and ancestors; -rre is the plural suffix for insects, sealife, plants, and a few other weirder things. this is because of noun class. :D

finally, the (a) is a particle that originally indicated the topic in a passive sentence construction, but is occasionally now also used to mark the specific object of a verb. eyardek ikazdiyeh is perfectly grammatical for 'eating crabcakes', but some dialects are now thinking that eyardek a ikazdiyeh also sounds about right.

[plokoonsdisapprovingeyebrows]

having fun with colloquial terms, exhibit one of many:

ghessla — (n.) // — lock; locked container, jar with a too-tight lid (colloquial usage)