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Round 1, Matchup 127: III.i.3 vs III.v.4

[secretmellowblog]

Reading Les mis and:

“None of her dreams had ever proceeded as far as man. She had never been able to get further than her cat.”

Big mood

[pureanonofficial]

LES MIS LETTERS IN ADAPTATION - M. Mabeuf, LM 3.5.4 (Les Miserables 1972)

He had composed and published a Flora of the Environs of Cauteretz, with colored plates, a work which enjoyed a tolerable measure of esteem and which sold well. People rang his bell, in the Rue Mésières, two or three times a day, to ask for it. He drew as much as two thousand francs a year from it; this constituted nearly the whole of his fortune. ... In a period of embarrassment, the first thing which does not sell is a Flora. The Flora of the Environs of Cauteretz stopped short. Weeks passed by without a single purchaser.

[sulfurousmirrorscapes]

He did not understand how men could busy themselves with hating each other because of silly stuff like the charter, democracy, legitimacy, monarchy, the republic, etc., when there were in the world all sorts of mosses, grasses, and shrubs which they might be looking at, and heaps of folios, and even of 32mos, which they might turn over.

M. Mabeuf was a founding figure of cottagecore by the way

[dolphin1812]

Mabeuf!!!

Mabeuf is hilarious. He's apolitical, although he respects those who are not, but he also happens to be growing the most political fruit in 1830s France: the pear. Although the connection to Louis-Philippe isn't made here, it does suggest that as much as one may want to remain distanced from politics, circumstances determine how much a person is able to maintain that distance, not the person themself. Mabeuf may have no political opinions, but that doesn't mean that politics don't affect him, or that others can't read politics into his actions (as I just did; he doesn't mean anything with those pears, but I can't see a pear without thinking of Louis-Philippe). More importantly to Mabeuf, only the truly fortunate can really escape politics:

"The Revolution of July brought a crisis to publishing. In a period of embarrassment, the first thing which does not sell is a Flora. The Flora of the Environs of Cauteretz stopped short. Weeks passed by without a single purchaser."

Mabeuf is poor in a similar way to Marius, where he's able to get by and even pay for some "luxuries" (as in, some simple enjoyments and/or a hobby), but his financial stability could disappear very quickly. The publishing crisis after the July Revolution caused just that. Without income from publishing, his situation became much more precarious, and while he still seems content and didn't suddenly become political, the consequences of politics on his life demonstrate the challenges of that position. It's nice that he's not prejudiced in the way Gillenormand is because of his "neutrality," but he's also not advocating for himself when these changes really do affect him. In a way, he's similar to Bishop Myriel, whose community efforts were great in every respect except the political. Mabeuf doesn't have that level of authority, but he shares many sentiments with the bishop: love of people (it's why he goes to church), respect for nature and knowledge, and a generally kind attitude. His lack of political beliefs hurts him more than it hurts his community, but it's still interesting to see this "flaw" repeated in a different way.

It's intriguing how Mabeuf's apolitical stance is linked to his distaste for violence as well. For instance, while he's friendly with several Bonapartists because he won't condemn their opinions, he's also extremely uncomfortable living at "Austerlitz," which shares the name of a famous battle during the Napoleonic Wars. Additionally, he flinches at all violence, with the example given being linked to the French Revolution. Weapons from the Invalides were used to storm the Bastille, so while Mabeuf is just avoiding a place because he dislikes cannons, he's also overlooking the way that politics is all around him because he detests violence. His stance on violence isn't wrong - we see a variety of justifiable positions on violence in the novel, with Valjean falling in the "no violence at all" camp as well - but the (a)political framing of his nonviolence is telling. It may be that he dislikes politics because he sees it as inherently violent (which is fair, given that he's lived through many violent moments in French history), which says as much about his experiences with politics as it does his personal feelings.

Even though Mabeuf's avoidance of politics is definitely a bad thing in a book with a very political message, I really love his character. He just loves books and plants! That's great for him, and it would be a pretty ideal way of life if he lived in a system that didn't place his livelihood at constant risk. He also has what is probably the best response to being asked about relationships that I've read:

"However, he had never succeeded in loving any woman as much as a tulip bulb, nor any man as much as an Elzevir. He had long passed sixty, when, one day, some one asked him: “Have you never been married?” “I have forgotten,” said he. When it sometimes happened to him��and to whom does it not happen?—to say: “Oh! if I were only rich!” it was not when ogling a pretty girl, as was the case with Father Gillenormand, but when contemplating an old book."

"I've forgotten" is definitely the funniest way to answer that question, and I love that books are his main motivation in everything. Hugo's a bit crueler about Mother Plutarque's similar avoidance of relationships, saying "None of her dreams had ever proceeded as far as man. She had never been able to get further than her cat." "Proceeded" implies that love of a man would be better than love for her cat, which also suggests that she should have gotten married. Granted, this is only implied here, but it does seem to be another instance of the strange tension between there being a lot of unmarried, somewhat sympathetic women in this book and Hugo thinking that marriage/motherhood is the ultimate goal for women. Mother Plutarque seems quite content with her cat, though, so if it weren't for the issue of poverty, she and Mabeuf would have been pretty happy with their very bookish lives.

[cliozaur]

In this chapter Hugo explains the significance of the unlikely and second-closest friend of Marius, an old man Mabeuf. Marius needs him because he is the only man with whom he can talk about his father. “M. Mabeuf talked to him of his hero from the point of view of flowers” – I would very much like to hear some of these conversations! Hugo explains that M. Mabeuf needed Marius because “Youth combined with gentleness produces on old people the effect of the sun without wind” –it may be an abstract explanation, but let it stand.

Mabeuf’s story is sad one, portraying someone who can strive to stay out of politics, be politically indifferent but still becomes a victim of politics. A concise and accurate description of the old man is given as “M. Mabeuf’s political opinion consisted in a passionate love for plants, and, above all, for books.” It’s a blissful form of escapism, sustainable only for those who are prosperous enough to distance themselves from and ignore reality for an extended period. “He did not understand how men could busy themselves with hating each other because of silly stuff like the charter, democracy, legitimacy, monarchy, the republic, etc., when there were in the world all sorts of mosses, grasses, and shrubs which they might be looking at, and heaps of folios, and even of 32mos, which they might turn over.”  However, once his books and plants are taken away (after his relative prosperity evaporates), — they are really so little to have and to wish for — as his entire world begins to crumble. But it would take time for him to realize that it has happened. I find the comparison to a pendulum or a clock both beautiful and ominous: “His habits of mind had the regular swing of a pendulum. Once mounted on an illusion, he went for a very long time, even after the illusion had disappeared. A clock does not stop short at the precise moment when the key is lost.” In fact, we already know that his fate has been decided, yet the clock keeps ticking, allowing Mabeuf to maintain the illusion that nothing has changed for a while. It's truly heartbreaking.

[zeph1981]

I love Mabeuf! Does anyone know what the 32mos is supposed to mean?

[fremedon]

Brickclub 3.5.3, “Marius a  Man,” and 3.5.4, “Monsieur Mabeuf”

@everyonewasabird has an excellent writeup of Marius’s weird and terrible fetishization of his father’s suffering in 3.5.3. Once Marius’s poverty becomes essentially voluntary, it seems pretty clear that he’s using it as a form of self-harm, in very much the same way Valjean deprives himself of comforts--only Marius, at this point, doesn’t even have Cosette to make him light a fire and eat.

And his poverty is voluntary. He’s not using his law degree--“Reverie had deterred him from pettifogging”--and one of the publishers he freelanced for offers him a job that would have doubled his income and provided housing, and Marius turns it down because...he doesn’t want to give up his freedom. To wander around and gaze dolefully at lettuces, mostly.

Hugo gives us a full page on the salutory effects of poverty and contemplation before undercutting it with “This is what Marius had undergone. To tell the truth, he even tended a little too much towards contemplation,” and describing how Marius had “cut down on work in favour of thought”:

What this meant was that he sometimes spent all day long thinking, steeped and absorbed like a visionary in the silent delights of ecstasy and inward radiance. This is how he had formulated the problem of his life: to apply himself as little as possible to practical work in order to apply himself as much as possible to intangible work. In other words, to spare a few hours for real life and lavish the rest on the infinite. Believing he lacked for nothing, he did not realize that, interpreted in this way, contemplation ends up being one of the basic forms of idleness. That he had settled for mastering only the basic necessities of life, and that he was taking his rest too soon.

Hugo was very clear in the convent section that intangible work is work--but also that the work of the convent is largely squandered by being turned in on itself. Mother Crucifixion’s deathbed could have been a site of miracles--except no one was allowed to be there who might have benefited. And the nuns, at least, were doing their intangible work in fellowship with each other. Marius is an anchorite. It’s notable that Hugo doesn’t tell us any of the thoughts and visions that Marius is devoting himself to. Whatever they are, they’re so private--and Marius is so disconnected from reality--that they don’t have any application outside his own head.

It is not a new observation, but Marius’s spending entire days absorbed in his thoughts and cutting his work and social connections down to the bare minimum to sustain him sure looks to me like low-grade depression.

Hugo uses the word “revolution” twice in half a page to refer to Marius’s conversion to Bonapartism and veneration of his father, the second time calling it an “interior political revolution.”I think we are meant to question--and the reference to Courfeyrac between those mentions is meant to make us question--what an interior political revolution even is; whether there can be a politics as stripped of connection as Marius’s. 

(And I meant that as a rhetorical question, but, actually--yes, there can; that’s what Bonapartism is--it’s Marius’s transactional filial piety on a societal level.)

And, after a chapter break, we get another answer in Mabeuf’s approval of “political opinions,” indiscriminately, “so that they would leave him in peace, in the same way that the Greeks called the Furies the Eumenides.”

I don’t have a ton to say about Mabeuf and Mother Plutarch. They’re another  household of an old man and and old spinster. Mabeuf is also existing in reverie, largely content with the world, even though it’s slowly crumbling around him. He and Marius enjoy each others’ company, but Marius doesn’t recognize the cautionary tale.

Other observations:

In the first paragraph of 3.5.3, what’s going on with “Marius was the brass vase but old Gillenormand was the iron pot”? Is Hugo referencing a saying I’m not familiar with?

[everyonewasabird]

Brickclub 3.5.4 ‘Monsieur Mabeuf’

“A clock does not stop at the very moment you lose the key.”

That’s such a harrowing line.

We watch Mabeuf lose everything, only, he doesn’t really know it yet. Or perhaps he does, but because he experiences terror and despair through thorough dissociation--Hugo’s description of which is gorgeous and horrible--we see him continue blithely on through a cheerful fog.

It’s awful. And every line about guns is ominous foreshadowing.

I feel like this book sets up a number of potential counterarguments to its overarching message. We try other ways to do good besides revolutioning (Myriel, Madeleine, the convent), none of which solve the problem. We also see several people try to opt out of the responsibilities this book lays out, most recently Marius, who’s trying to dream his way to personal change instead of acting to promote political change.

None of the alternatives work out well.

Mabeuf as a character asks--can’t a man just not be political? Can’t he opt out of all this by being gentle and raising flowers?

No, the text answers. He can’t.

Had he been luckier, he might have gone on as he was. But a notary’s mistake lost him 10,000 francs, and he’s penniless. We’ve heard plenty about lawyers recently--Marius, in fact, is one--and I feel like the total lack of any action to get back the money says a lot about the total uselessness of lawyers, or laws, or the justice system. Not that we had much faith left in that.

The lost money links him to Gillenormand in an odd way, who is also traumatized by his savings having evaporated with the stroke of a pen. Gillenormand will be fine, though. Mabeuf won’t be.

Mabeuf echoes a lot of other characters: Gillenormand’s “if only I were rich,” Valjean’s white hair, Georges’ scientific botany, the bishop’s garden, Marius’s dreaminess--only Mabeuf is the floating, inactive, gentle-to-the-point-of-toothless version of all of these--and maybe the talk of teeth and toothelessness is even meant to invoke Fantine. But if Fantine’s descent was defined by fighting tooth and nail every step down the stair, Mabeuf’s is defined by an inability to acknowledge there's a stair at all.

The character Mabeuf makes me think of most, though, is Grantaire, the other person whose life is defined by trying not to engage with the problems of the world. One is dissociated and the other dissipated, but it’s a related kind of avoidance.

Grantaire is the apolitical bourgeois comfortable enough to safely ignore suffering--except that in his heart he longs for justice and a better world, much as he tries to deny it. Mabeuf is the apolitical not-quite-bourgeois who’s forced to face the injustice of the system when it utterly fails him. He only needs books and flowers, and society takes even that.

At the end of the chapter, Mabeuf talks about a story where Buddha converts a Dragon, saying there is no more beautiful legend--but he’s mishearing a romance novel about a belle and a dragoon.

Like Grantaire, he’s turning aside from ideas of fighting and saying “the real glory is to convince.” Only, his grasp of reality is a lot weaker even than Grantaire’s. Where Grantaire grasped real truth at that moment, Mabeuf is lost in illusions.

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III.v.4 M. Mabeuf

Wraxall and Beckwith have chosen the just not correct but intensely funny* route of “M. Mabœuf”.

*(this is intensely funny to me and probably me alone because that is what I named my goblin’s cow mount in dungeons and dragons. the gang were not very happy when I explained that one)

M. Mabeuf: Wilbour, Hapgood, FMA

M. Mabœuf: Wraxall, Beckwith

Monsieur Mabuef: Denny, Rose, Donougher

[secretmellowblog]

Girls when Father Mabeuf:

[aakash1990things]

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[miwa-soumen]

…he had never succeeded in loving any woman as much as a tulip bulb, nor any man as much as an Elzevir. He had long passed sixty, when, one day, some one asked him: “Have you never been married?” “I have forgotten,” said he.

m. mabeuf is an aromantic king

[coquelicoq]

Ce n'est pas pourtant que M. Mabeuf eût été dans cette occasion autre chose que l'agent calme et impassible de la providence. Il avait éclairé Marius par hasard et sans le savoir, comme fait une chandelle que quelqu'un apporte; il avait été la chandelle et non le quelqu'un. (t. III, 5, iii, p. 865)

C'est ainsi qu'à travers cet obscurcissement qui se faisait autour de lui, toutes ses espérances s'éteignant l'une après l'autre, M. Mabeuf était resté serein, un peu puérilement, mais très profondément. Ses habitudes d'esprit avaient le va-et-vient d'un pendule. Une fois monté par une illusion, il allait très longtemps, même quand l'illusion avait disparu. Une horloge ne s'arrête pas court au moment précis où l'on en perd la clef. (t. III, 5, iv, p. 869)

i love both of these. so clear and evocative. hugo has such a facility for metaphor.

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Round 1, Matchup 151: III.vi.6 vs V.iii.4

[aakash1990things]

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Global Open-Source Learning Management Systems Software Market Size, Status and Forecast 2022  1 Industry Overview of Open-Source Learning Management Systems Software 1.1 Open-Source Learning Management Systems Software Market Overview 1.1.1 Open-Source Learning Management Systems Software Product Scope 1.1.2 Market Status and Outlook 1.2 Global Open-Source Learning Management Systems Software Market Size and Analysis by Regions 1.2.1 United States 1.2.2 EU 1.2.3 Japan 1.2.4 China 1.2.5 India 1.2.6 Southeast Asia 1.3 Open-Source Learning Management Systems Software Market by Type 1.3.1 PC 1.3.2 Mobile Terminal 1.4 Open-Source Learning Management Systems Software Market by End Users/Application 1.4.1 Android 1.4.2 iOS 1.4.3 Windows 1.4.4 Other 

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