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[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

The Biggest Problem With Hazbin Hotel's Rehabilitation Mentality Is Trying To Make All Sinners Victims Instead Of Owning Up To Their Own Sins

I think the biggest problem with Hazbin Hotel rehabilitation mentality is that they focus in on how sinners are victim of circumstances rather than owning up to their problems and changing themselves. I think the biggest thing with this series is the fact that they think the problem is society instead of someone's own issues how they got into hell.

One of the first indications of this bs is making it out that Lucifer and Lilith were just misunderstood dreamers were against a strict ignoring that they caused sin in the world and caused help humanity's downfall. But the narrative ignores that fact and tries to treat them as victims of heaven, so we can have Lucifer as a misunderstood sad boy instead of how in the Bible he was jealous of humanity and wanted to bring it down with him due to God's love for them. A misunderstood sad boy wouldn't do this type of shit and Vivziepop selling it a load of it.

I know this is going to be controversial but I think Angel Dust is hindered as a character but not focusing on what got him into hell. And it wasn't just the drugs and sex, because he did kill people and some of them probably didn't end up in hell. So just imagine him being sent to heaven and his former victims recognized him for his crimes and until now showed repentance. However, the narrative even then doesn't focus on that fact but the idea he's a total victim and doesn't show part of his way to redemption is get his life back together and admit he's done shit where he wasn't the victim but the victimizer. One could say he was put through that life, but then again show his sister is in heaven and that she chose a life of virtue and made it. So, he has no excuse of his dad or brother getting himself into hell except himself and he needs to work on it. Even if he's a victim to Valentino, he still is a victimizer in someone else's eyes who recognizes him decades ago.

And I am also going to say this the Extermination is used as a way to have all of hell be turned into pitied victims that you forget a lot of them are in hell for a reason. And even more they are doing antics that got them probably into hell like murder, sex, and other types of depravity. While not all sinners are on the same level, the exterminations as a whole just i used to make you forget that they are there for a reason and erase that there is a reason they weren't given a chance into heaven. Seriously, Emily herself called them innocent souls when in any other scene they are far from innocent and the reason why Adam is depicted as a one note villain is because they can't fathom the idea that maybe the Extermination could be used to cull the worst sinners or something.

I think the biggest problem with Hazbin Hotel's every sinner is really a victim it comes ironically counter to finding redemption. A show which Vivziepop says she inspires from but she completely misses the point is Bojack. She says she's watched it but the biggest point of the show just because you are the victim doesn't give you an excuse to act like a total jackass to others and not own up to your mistakes. The problem is Habzin Hotel never lets anyone own up because they have to play victims, especially any character favored by Vivziepop. Redemption doesn't come from seeing yourself as a victim, but recognizing your own mistakes and how to reform from them. And frankly I didn't see Angel Dust want to reform from his mistakes, but just want a home away from Val. The problem is that Hazbin Hotel is about enforcing victimhood instead of owning up that you did bad things and need to change. An excuse for your behavior is still not fully an excuse and you need to own up to your actions.

[darkmasterofcupcakes]

Lucifer and Lilith not being fans of Lute in the slightest but still almost desperately trying to get her to let them get her some help, or at least sit down, if not end the meeting early when they realize she's not only in labor but actually a decent amount into it, but Lute just insists that she's fine and refuses to listen when the Morningstars try to just insist that she's having a baby.

Ultimately they just take full advantage of the fact that after a certain point, she's too distracted from the pain to really pay full attention to them and actually help deliver the baby. They are still kind of horrified at how stubborn Lute was being...though Lilith does give some degree of respect to Lute for managing to give birth pretty much fully standing (outside of bracing herself on the edge of the table to keep herself upright).

Lilith is tough as nails, but even she wouldn't have wanted to try giving birth to Charlie in that position, even if the concern for the baby wasn't a factor.

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˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ 𝕬 𝖌𝖎𝖗𝖑 𝖜𝖍𝖔 𝖍𝖆𝖘 𝖓𝖔𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖋𝖊𝖊𝖑𝖘 𝖓𝖔𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖒𝖆𝖐𝖊𝖘 𝖆 𝖉𝖊𝖆𝖑 𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖍 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖊𝖛𝖎𝖑 𝖎𝖓 𝖍𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖘 𝖔𝖋 𝖋𝖎𝖓𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖍𝖆𝖕𝖕𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘𝖘.

˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖌𝖘: ����𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖘 𝖔𝖋 𝕯𝖊𝖕𝖗𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖔𝖓, 𝕬𝖇𝖚𝖘𝖊, 𝕹𝖔𝖓-𝕭𝖎𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖑 𝖑𝖔𝖗𝖊, 𝕾𝖚𝖌𝖌𝖊𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖛𝖊 𝖈𝖔𝖓𝖙𝖊𝖓𝖙, 𝕿𝖗𝖆𝖚𝖒𝖆, 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝕾𝖙𝖗𝖔𝖓𝖌 𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖚𝖆𝖌𝖊.

˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ 𝕬𝖑𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖙𝖊 𝕬𝖀: 𝕷𝖎𝖑𝖎𝖙𝖍 𝕯𝖔𝖊𝖘𝖓'𝖙 𝕰𝖝𝖎𝖘𝖙, 𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎𝖊 𝖎𝖘𝖓'𝖙 𝕭𝖔𝖗𝖓 𝖞𝖊𝖙, 𝕷𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗 𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖑𝖑 𝖌𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝕬𝖕𝖕𝖑𝖊 𝖙𝖔 𝕰𝖛𝖊 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖋𝖊𝖑𝖑 𝖙𝖔 𝕳𝖊𝖑𝖑, 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝕷𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗 𝖎𝖘 𝖈𝖑𝖔𝖘𝖊 𝖋𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖉𝖘 𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖍 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝕾𝖎𝖓𝖘

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