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hath-e · 9 months ago
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Girls (me) need fictional characters who are just slightly similar to themselves but significantly worse so that we can always say it could have been worse
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Anyway here's a definitely unrelated image of Hathaway
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astralcat · 7 months ago
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guys the spirit of mafty may have moved into my most recent clangen run
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gremoria411 · 1 year ago
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Trigger Warning: The following contains mention of Gassing.
Warcrimes: That was a bad analogy on my part, apologies. My general point is that both sides lost half their respective populations during the One Week Battle, with the Earth Federation having proportionally higher losses. Both sides uses nuclear and chemical weapons during this (there’s mentions of biological weapons in supplementary material, but little evidence of their use). The Principality of Zeon carries out Operation British in which they captured the Side 2 Colony, Island Iffish, gassed the entire population, and dropped it on Earth in an attempt to take out Earth Federation HQ in Jaburo in one fell swoop. The colony broke apart mid-entry and instead fell across the earth, with the front end hitting Sydney, Australia and completely obliterating it. This is absolutely horrifying, and has a massive death toll across the Earth. Just prior to the Gryps War, the Titans, an Anti-Zeon Task Force turned tool of Oppression against the Space Colonies will gas peaceful protestors in the Colony 30 incident, which will be a key reason for the founding of the AEUG. I’m not really trying to argue Operation British or Colony 30 as better or worse than the other, nor am I trying to gauge them based on population loss. The way they’re presented seems designed to draw comparisons between Zeon and the Titans, showing that both sides will do horrifying things, despite their absolute opposition to the ideals of the other. It’s a presentation of how there is still very much people with the ability and the will to carry such things out. Though the people and ideologies have changed, the methods haven’t. All men grew to fear their own deeds, indeed.
Contolism and motivation: It’s more that Contolism’s the philosophy that Zeon is built on, so it’s interesting to see how quickly it’s discarded by Zeon or how it survives and changes. Also a lot of characters will proclaim something as “for the glory of Zeon!” when it’s really more due to their personal motivations, so Contolist thought is a nice thing to come back to rather than having to untangle the individual motivations of a specific group. To be honest, if Unicorn didn’t directly reference it, I’d probably only mention it when talking about the Principality itself.
Zeon Remnants: I do see the wisdom in going for an ideological based approach, but I just don’t see that many non-Zeon armed groups in the interwar period between the OYW and Gryps. Even the few I can think of are just independent space pirates, and thus ideologically speaking, nothing. Space pirates typically show up as factionless grunts to fight the protagonists before the real threat comes along, and thus brook no real analysis. The Cima fleet are specifically Zeon Remnant Space Pirates, and throw in their lot with Delaz, even as they plot to betray him. However, they’re still defined by their relationship with Zeon, and thus I’m inclined to consider them Zeon Remnants (plus, they’re very organised and well equipped, above that of your average space pirate). I *could* look at the individual character motivations and feelings towards the Earth Federation, Zeon, colonial independence and the Newtype Theory, or I could just say “oh, they have a Gelgoog, probably Zeon remnants” and still be correct (and honestly, for the more interesting Zeon Remnant groups I’ll typically do that analysis anyway).
AEUG and Anaheim Electronics: Even if they are just an Earth Federation splinter group, the AEUG do retain a lot of materials and personnel, enough to justly threaten the Titans. While Anaheim does have ex-Zeon staff, I’m inclined to consider them more profit-motivated than anything, particularly since they’re primarily thriving of Earth Federation and Titans contracts - Axis Zeon is typically an in-house affair, and selling to Zeon Remnant Groups would draw heavy scrutiny for the Earth Federation. Selling to the AEUG on top of the other two enables them to cater to both sides - heavy pressure by the Titans is likely to threaten their profits, since they’ll heavily regulate the space colonies where Anaheim has most of its business (plus they might eventually start investigating Anaheim’s ex-Zeon workers). Selling to the AEUG will either alleviate the worst of that in the short term, or in the long term lead to less pressure on the markets, since the AEUG is primarily concerned with beating the Titans, not regulating the space colonies. Newborn Neo Zeon and the Sleeves both lack the manufacturing capabilities for their own mobile suit production, necessitating their patronage of Anaheim as opposed to in-house work.
Mafty Navue Erin and Hathaway Noa: I haven’t rewatched Gundam Hathaway in a while, so I’ll be focusing more on visuals here. I consider Mafty a completely separate organisation from Zeon. Mafty is an anti-federation terrorist group, but they’re primarily concerned with attacking the federation itself. The elites and the seat of government, not engaging with their military forces. They also seem uninterested in seeking independence for the space colonies, simply for the Earth Federation to govern more effectively. They might have some ex-federation or ex-Zeon personnel (or ex-titans, ex-AEUG, ex-axis etc), but they don’t really seem to bring much with them ideologically. Mafty shares an enemy with Zeon, but very little else. I typically look at Mafty’s goals not as evidence of a shared link with Zeon, but of evidence of how bad the Earth Federation Government are at their jobs.
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As for equipment similarities - the only real equipment link would be the Messer, the main mobile suit of the Mafty organisation (I’m using the old art, because I don’t want to have to double check if it’s F01 or F02 type because Bandai decided the hover unit should be p-Bandai). It’s based on the Geara Doga used in Char’s Counterattack, and does look pretty Zeonic. However I’m very forgiving of this because a) the Geara Doga is amazing, and I can totally understand using it as the basis for a brand-new general-purpose suit. And b) what else could they have really done? There’s roughly two types of mobile suit design lineage - they look Zeonic or they look Federation. We don’t really see anything visually different until F91 with the Crossbone Vanguard, so any mobile suit is gonna fall into one of two camps anyway. Furthermore, the Messer was built by Anaheim Electronics, which is directly motivated to look as innocent as possible. So “hey, those new mobile suits look Zeon-derived, maybe this Mafty organisation has some ex-Zeon engineers to build them” is a better look for Anaheim than “hey, these mobile suits look like Anaheim built them, funny how they haven’t reported a theft to us��. Also, Mafty as an organisation only has 2 mobile suits - the very Zeon looking Messer,
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And the other one, which is a member of the most famous federation mobile suit lineage ever produced.
Zeon Remnants: Why so many?
*Spoilers for most of the Universal Century Below*
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So a common criticism of Universal Century I see is that it’s essentially all Zeon Remnants, all the time. That it every antagonist to the Earth Federation is either a Zeon remnant or related to such and it makes the universal century feel smaller.
That is 100% a valid criticism.
However, it’s not something I particularly notice as a problem, so I figured I’d make a post delving into my reasons why. I’ll be talking about each of the “main” Zeon groups (The Principality of Zeon, The Delaz Fleet, Axis Zeon, Char’s Neo Zeon and The Sleeves) and I’ll talk about why Zeon are so frequently the antagonist. Alright, enough preamble, let’s get on with it.
Why don’t I have a problem with Zeon always showing up, all the time?
Because I usually consider each Zeon group its own thing. Like, yeah the aesthetics and some mobile suits tend to match up but they typically have…. If not different goals, then different cultures. It’s not just the same thing all the time.
I’ll be dividing them by roughly four factors:
Motivations - *Why* are they fighting, how unified are they?
Size - big force or little force, since it affects how they fight.
Newtypes - Oh hey, it’s just possibly one of their more important contributions to the setting in general. Kinda important. Focusing more on how they’re used and how they’re seen.
Mechanics - Mobile suits and overall tech level for the time.
The Principality of Zeon
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First up, the good ol’ Principality of Zeon. The P of Z, if you will. Founded by Degwin Sodo Zabi in the aftermath of Zeon Zum Deikun’s death in U.C. 0068. Rapid Militarisation of Side 3 (Munzo), the colonies composing Zeon followed, with what would become the One Year War being declared in UC 0079. It’s sometimes known as “The Duchy of Zion” in older translations.
It’s a little unclear *why* war was declared, but the official line and the view of the average citizen would be that it was a war of Independence from the Earth Federation. Zeon Zum Deikun (who Zeon was named after) was the father of Contolism, a philosophy that combines two major elements:
Elseim - The Earth is Sacred, and must be protected (The Earth is Humanity’s Cradle, but man cannot live in the cradle forever-type stuff, with a big focus on environmentalism).
Sideism - All Space Colonies should be independent from the Earth Federation (This is where all the “Those whose souls are still bound by gravity”-type stuff comes from).
And nestled riiight in the middle of those two is the Newtype Theory, which postulates that ascending into space is the next stage of mankind’s evolution, giving rise to a “new type” of individual, with the ability to communicate over great distances and divides.
Due to Class divides and economic disparity between the Earth Federation “elite” and the Space Colonists (particularly those in Side 3), Contolism was massively popular, with Zeon Zum Deikun being raised to leader of Side 3. However, he died suddenly and (apparently) appointed Degwin Zabi as his successor. Degwin would instigate a purge of Zeon’s most loyal followers, and place his children in high ranking political positions, ruling the Principality of Zeon as absolute dictator. It’s unclear if Degwin declared war as the logical conclusion of the Contolism Philosophy to wrest Earth from the Federation, if he viewed it as a way to secure greater power or if he genuinely wanted to rule the entire earth sphere.
What I’m getting at here is that your average Zeon soldier believes he is fighting for the Independence of the Space Colonies and the safeguarding of Earth against the Federation Elites who seek to exploit it. The higher command however, is incredibly fractious, since each one is operating under a different member of the Zabi Family, and so there tends to be a lot of friction. Even if Zeon had won the OYW, it’s likely it would’ve had to deal with a Civil War at some point or another (dependant on which members of the Zabi family survived).
Zeon is also notable in that it’s the single largest organisation here, and since mobile suit combat was relatively new, it fought with a lot more variety than any of its successors, such as tanks and mobile armours. It also had the advantage of, with the notable exception of the RX-78 and its derivatives, being far better off than the Earth Federation technologically, possessing advanced mobile suits and actual Newtype research (important note; With one singular exception, it is never suggested that Zeon’s Newtype laboratories are anything less than above-board. Are they under immense pressure to succeed? Absolutely. But crucially, they aren’t inhuman). It had a large variety of mobile suits - usually a few good “workhorse” units (Zaku’s and Dom’s) with a bunch of oddities on the side (like Gyan’s and Zakarello’s).
Lastly, the One Year War itself. This is a point I’ll be coming back to frequently throughout this, but; The Federation possessed a major population and material advantage over the Principality of Zeon for the entire war, and was able to deploy a staggering amount of enlisted soldiers into the war. Zeon possessed the advantage of mobile suits early on, but they were also forced to mobilise a great many soldiers. Both Sides of the One Year War lost half of their respective populations in the early stages of the war (The One Week Battle) and Side 4 Moore was utterly devastated. What I’m getting at is that there would be an awful lot of individuals with millitary training and/or technological know-how running around after the war, as occurred in the real-world World War II and Cold War (strictly speaking I’m looking at them being an easy source of millitary experience in genre fiction, but you get the idea). So you have a lot of Ex-Soldiers and remaining military equipment hanging around, and a lot of people with “legitimate grievances” to hate the other side (Warcrimes on both sides, The Earth Federation essentially doesn’t change, Zeon Remnants remain an active problem with several becoming pirates and there’s a lot of Federation “mop-up” teams going around, the precursors to the Titans).
So, The Principality of Zeon in a nutshell; Principled reasoning (i.e. Contolism), massive force, Newtypes rare and incredibly valued (since they’re essentially a living reminder of why they’re fighting and a massive force multiplier), mobile suits essentially brand new and largely experimental.
The Delaz Fleet (and Zeon Remnants in general)
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The Delaz Fleet was formally created in U.C. 0081, being primarily composed of former Gihren Zabi Loyalists from the Principality of Zeon, led by Aigulle Delaz (above, left). They were most famous for Operation Stardust in U.C. 0083. I’m also going to be discussing Zeon Remnant groups in general here, since the Delaz Fleet is essentially just a very large and successful Zeon remnant group. Delaz’ goal is relatively simple - vengeance. Delaz wishes to deal a hefty blow to the federation, largely to avenge the Principality’s loss at a Baoa Qu, with much of his forces feeling similarly (note: it’s possible that, had their been less withdrawals of Gihren Faction Loyalists like Delaz, A Baoa Qu may have gone differently). The forces under his command is relatively small, to the point where he is forced to seek aid from both the Axis Advance Fleet (though this is largely in materials and recovery) and the Cima Fleet, which costs him dearly.
Delaz specifically embellishes the “cause” of Zeon, focusing less on the Principality’s totally necessary warcrimes and more on Zeon’s fight for Independence against the Earth Federation. This is relevant because Delaz reaches a wide audience, espousing his own Zeonic ideals, largely divorced from the original Contolism basis. He also blames the weakened political leadership of the time (read: that nasty Kycilia murdering his precious Gihren Zabi). Delaz is specifically the most successful of the Zeon remnants in his era, directly to the space colonies detriment, since his actions directly lead to the founding of the Titans, who brutally crack down on the Colonies.
Equipment-wise, Zeon remnant groups are a varied bunch, but typically fight using older or ad-hoc equipment - The Delaz Fleet primarily utilises upgraded machines from the One Year War - Zaku FII’s, Rick Dom’s and, most notably, Dra-C’s - mobile suits cobbled together from spare Zaku and Gattle fighter-bomber parts. Any other materials they use are either stolen from the Earth Federation or are acquired through other means.
Newtypes are kinda weird here, since there just aren’t any in 0083, and the general theme with Newtypes in other remnant groups around this time is typically that they’re either propaganda or just not very good. It’s possible that the Newtype philosophy was largely dormant for a while immediately following Zeon’s defeat - either viewed as propaganda or directly suppressed by the Earth Federation themselves (like Amuro). The Newtype philosophy likely experienced as resurgence with the emergence of the Titans, since it would have been a rallying cry for spacenoid independence once more. As such, Newtypes just aren’t a big thing in Zeon remnant groups around this era, at least as near as I can tell (Delaz is the only animated force we see, and I try not to rely too much on manga, at least for Universal Century).
So, Delaz Fleet (and immediate postwar Zeon remnants) in a nutshell; Varied Motivations (though typically vengeance or survival), Small Guerilla Force, Newtypes near non-existent, mobile suits either OYW cast-offs or stolen.
Axis Zeon
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Which I admit I’m using because it’s more easily distinguished than Neo Zeon, Neo Zeon and Neo Zeon. Anyway, Axis Zeon is made up of the various Zeon remnants that fled to the Asteroid Axis after the One Year War, this includes several pilots, scientists and engineers, which ensures that Axis enjoys a massive technological edge for most of its existence. Axis, in contrast to Zeons prior, is primarily concerned with “The Restoration of the Zabi Family” since one of the people that ended up there is Mineva Zabi, daughter of Dozle and the Zabi family’s only living heir. Except Glemy maybe.
Since Mineva was of the Zabi family lineage, of course she’d want to resume their conquest of the Earth Sphere, and so Axis was reconstructed into a fortress for her to rule when she came of age, with a regent being appointed to rule in her stead, which eventually fell to Haman Karn. Haman was essentially able to use Mineva as a figurehead in order to mount an invasion of Earth, and struck at the end of the Gryps War, when both the Titans and AEUG were reeling from that conflict. It’s also notable that a lot of the Axis members we see are very young, so were raised on “The Glories of Zeon” without actually seeing the realities of the One Year War with their own eyes.
Neo Zeon also was able to develop and field newtype weaponry, with newtypes being a potent threat against the AEUG. However, they still weren’t common, and so Cyber Newtypes were fielded. In contrast to “true newtypes” who have naturally awakened to their powers, cyber-newtypes are those with Newtype potential who have been forcibly conditioned with drugs and implants in order to function for combat. Though deadly threats, they are very unstable. You may notice that this seems anathema to the Contolism Philosophy espoused by Zeon Zum Deikun, and is incredibly dehumanising to boot, signifying that Axis is barely even paying lip service to its ideals of spacenoid independence. Axis Zeon is also notable for utilising clones to supplement its Newtype forces, which…. I don’t think is strictly counter to Contolism? But it feels like it’s against it in spirit, if not in letter.
It’s especially notable that a great many members of Axis Zeon espouse things like “For the Glory of Neo Zeon” and “For the Restoration of the Zabi Family” without really understanding what they mean. It’s also notable that, barring links with surviving Zeon Remnant groups, Axis isn’t noted as being very popular with the colonial population, likely because they don’t really understand what the “Ideals of Zeon” mean, and the civilians recognise them as merely parroting Zabi rhetoric.
Axis Zeon would eventually be undone by a Civil War within the organisation led by Glemy Toto, coupled with the AEUG’s offensives. Unlike the political manoeuvring of the One Year War, the Glemy Faction coup occurs very suddenly and results in massive casualties in the organisation due to his command of the Newtype corps.
Technologically, Axis is absolutely cutting-edge. They really don’t cheap out on mobile suit development and are able to design and field a variety of units comparable to the Principality in its heyday. Axis forces are essentially the best-armed Zeon will ever be, helped massively by the sheer amount of Newtype weaponry they can deploy (they have three mainline mobile suits in the Neo Zeon War, all three seeing good amounts of production at various stages and they’re typically first pick for Zeon Remnant Groups in the U.C. 0090’s). They also have the facilities for Newtype cloning, as mentioned above.
Axis Zeon in a nutshell; Hollow Motivations (Restoration of the Zabi Family and Conquest of the Earth Sphere), large force, newtypes and cyber-newtypes prevalent, mobile suits many, varied and cutting-edge.
(I haven’t quite finished all of ZZ, so forgive me if this one’s a bit rough)
Char’s Neo Zeon/Newborn Neo Zeon
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Sometimes also known as Char’s Rebellion. It was basically founded in order to accelerate space migration….. by plunging the Earth into nuclear winter and making it near-uninhabitable. Founded by our good buddy Char Aznable in U.C. 0093, there’s less to go on for this particular iteration of Zeon, basically just a movie and supplemental information. It is composed of various Zeon remnants and political factions under Char Aznable with the express purpose of instigating the Axis Drop in order to make the earth uninhabitable and stop humanity from damaging it. Which is a terrible plan, barely paying lip service to the Contolist ideals Zeon was founded upon.
That’s because it’s a lie.
Char is in fact mounting a suicide run on the entire Earth. Creating a threat so massive that Amuro will be forced to kill him to stop it. Which is rather informative. Char is essentially using his influence to hold the entire operation together, and it’s notable that a good chunk of his own forces actively move to counter his goal when the option presents itself. Consequently, there isn’t much in the way of ideals on display here - Char is famous both for being the son of Zeon Zum Deikun and for his Dakar Address when he was a member of the AEUG. It kinda seems like a lot of his support is coming from people who know him from that, as opposed to what he’s actually doing. Newborn Neo Zeon is basically headlined and held together by Char, and has the vibe of a desperate last gasp for Zeon. It’s also notable that the only time we see Char actually lead Zeon is when he’s using its name for his own ends.
Newborn Neo Zeon also has a great more political pull than many of the other groups - Char Succeeds in a lot of his goals because he’s essentially able to play the Earth Federation like a fiddle, while remnant groups happily provide him aid. Technologically he has the backing of both Anaheim and Newtype Labs. Char’s mobile suits are, while not cutting-edge as such, very well rounded. The Geara Doga and Jagd Doga both share components and a general body structure, and the only reason the Sazabi is unique is because they couldn’t make the frame suit Char’s abilities (there’s a bunch of prototype units that pave the way to the Sazabi). Newborn Neo Zeon also retains a number of Axis Zeon Remnants, which bring their mobile suits and technical skill as well. Newtypes, while not exactly common, are considerably more stable than their Axis predecessors, and are given Jagd Doga’s, which are probably the closest a Newtype machine has ever come to reliability and ease of use. There’s also the Alpha Azieru…. which is also there (I don’t really have a lot to say on it honestly, it’s just kind of another “big newtype weapon”). Unfortunately, I really don’t have much to go on here regarding how the force views its newtypes - they’re essentially just treated as a special branch of the forces, no contolist ethics here, which is genuinely pretty sad. Because it illustrates just how far Char’s fallen from the ideals he espoused at the end of Zeta, especially considering he’s the son of Zeon Zum Deikun.
Char’s Neo Zeon in a nutshell: Motivations lean Char-centric, middling force with a lot of soft power, Newtypes present and mostly stable, small mobile suit variety but what’s there is very good.
(The Geara Doga’s one of my favourite grunt suits, so I’m probably quite biased here)
The Sleeves
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Last of the “main” Neo Zeon Organisations. The Sleeves is a melting pot of every Zeon remnant group going. Founded around U.C. 0096, they were led by the man called Full Frontal, known as the “ghost of char”. Due to their disparate status, they aren’t recognised as a legitimate organisation by the Federstion, instead being branded a terrorist group - which they essentially are, being an aggregation of a bunch of other informal Zeon remnant groups. This mixed nature leads to a similar diversity in views and equipment - you have die-hard contolists, Glemy faction remnants, newborn Neo Zeon cast-offs and everything in-between.
They are essentially a return to form for Zeon Remnant groups, but are able effectively leverage their limited assets to fight quite effectively, though again, they’re heavily reliant on soft power, such as their relationship with Anaheim and political connections. They don’t have the forces to steamroll through the Earth Federation, so they’re forced to adopt an almost cell-based approach (at least that’s my read on Full Frontal and Suberoa Zinnerman’s relationship). It’s an odd mix of the realities of a Guerilla war against the federation and hearkening back to Neo-Zeon groups past (who were themselves hearkening back to the days of the old Principality). I should also note that The Sleeves maintain links with several other Zeon Remnant groups, such as some of the forces that attack Torrington in Unicorn. This is interesting not just because it shows a greater deal of collaboration between these groups than seen prior (Delaz and Cima were not exactly trusting of each other), it also shows a different mechanical composition to pre-U.C. 0090 remnant groups.
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They’re kind of all over the place. Which I love because it’s 1:1 with their philosophical composition - they’re remnants from a bunch of different forces and groups, so of course it makes sense that their mobile suits would reflect that. The Sleeves do possess the…. Not-quite-cutting-edge-but-at-least-new Geara Zulus and the absolutely fabulous Sinanju (s), Kyshatriya and Rebawoo, but that’s kind of all they’re at. Everything else is from at least Char’s Rebellion or earlier - there’s one-of-a-kind custom units, old axis castoffs, even some stuff from the One Year War and immediate postwar period (like that poor regelgu). A varied armament for a varied force.
However, it is notable that The Sleeves don’t really have much of an identity of their own, largely due to their patchwork composition. They’re the scattered remnants of previous causes, and this is both called out and used against them in-universe. It feels like an examination of Char’s actions during CCA - Full Frontal certainly has Char’s charisma, but he doesn’t have his drive as evidenced by his eventual goal, which isn’t necessarily a *bad* aim, it’s just not Char.
Following on from this they share Newborn Neo Zeon’s just general…. disinterest in newtypes. They’re like any other pilot, they can just use different equipment. All the Sleeves Newtypes we see are very well-equipped though, so how they precisely look at them is unclear. This could be viewed as another extension of Char’s attitudes in CCA.
The Sleeves in a nutshell: Motivations are kind of all over the place, middling-to-low-sized force, newtypes uncommon but mostly-stable (one exception) and very effective, massive mobile suit variety but quality’s also all over the place.
Conclusion
So yeah, I find each revival of Zeon different enough that I can consider them separately to each other - yeah, there’s crossover, but their attitudes change each time - the only thing that stays the same is the aesthetic and who they’re fighting against.
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But why are Zeon so often the antagonist?
Out-of-universe, because they sell. But you already knew that so let’s talk about possible In-universe reasons:
Old Equipment - The Principality was *huge*. Masses of equipment, enlisted men and yes, mobile suits. We see several individuals that are able to survive on the Scrap alone - Kelly Layzner, Judau Ashta, even the AEUG utilize a Gelgoog at one point. There’s a lot of material out there, and its a hot commodity post war and the Earth Federation will be in a hurry to rebuild - they don’t have the resources to track down every case of assault rifles or damaged-but-not-irreparable mobile suit. The South Seas alliance in Gundam Thunderbolt is one such organisation, but there will be a lot of Zeon Remnants who are still functional.
Loss of Leadership, not force - Aguille Delaz personally blames the “weak political leadership” (IE Kycillia) for the loss in the One Year War, but we can extrapolate that further. The Battle for A Baoa Qu saw pretty much all the remaining Zabi High Command due within hours of each other - Gihren kills Degwin, Kycillia kills Gihren, Char kills Kycillia. These are three massive losses to the war effort in very short spaces of time. Gihren’s betrayal of Degwin would’ve been very costly for him even if Kycillia hadn’t taken revenge there and then. He deprived himself of both the Solar Ray and the Fleet that Degwin was part of. The fact he took out Revil as well merely would’ve made it an even loss - if it wasn’t for the Solar Ray being rendered unusable into the bargain. Kycilia’s revenge killing of Gihren deprives A Baoa Qu of forces as the commanders loyal to Gihren flee the scene - Delaz among them - weakening the defence overall. Finally, Kycilia is killed as she is attempting to flee to Granada, where she planned to continue the war. This leaves a great many well-armed forces at large, since their strength wasn’t spent at A Baoa Qu - forces that Axis Zeon will draw on. All it really takes to galvanise these remnants is a charismatic individual, something which isn’t exactly in sort supply in the Universal Century.
Corollary to the above - Unclear loss - A Baoa Qu was absolute chaos, so the precise mechanics of “why Zeon lost” might be difficult for the average soldier to grasp - particularly one lacking in reliable non-federation communication sources. It would be easy to look at the mess of A Baoa Qu, then look at the equipment beside you and think “Yeah, we could’ve won. Yeah, we might still win”.
Unchanged Status Quo - Zeon launched the One Year War, at least officially, in the name of Independence. The Earth Federation was governing the colonies poorly, and class inequality was high. This does not change, if anything, it gets worse, as groups like the Titans see the OYW and Operation Stardust as Carte Blanche to utterly suppress the space colonies, and carry out War Crimes at least equal to Zeon’s. A failed war might at least spark some change to prevent another one, but if anything conditions for spacenoids only get worse, so resistance groups would see an upturn in numbers.
Corollary to the Above - Spacenoid Independence doesn’t stop with the war - The Independence of the Space Colonies is still a hot-button issue which the Federation has reason to suppress. So any ex-Zeon soldiers that folded back into civilian life may get involved with Colonial Independence movements. Or, any colonial independence movement that finds the Federation isn’t listening to them might seek a way to *make* them listen - and might find Zeon Remnant Groups sympathetic to their cause.
Little oversight - Before the formation of the Titans, the Earth Federation government believed Zeon to be removed as a threat - small pirate groups, but nothing major. Operation Stardust changed all this, yes, but before that Zeon remnant groups could operate largely unopposed, especially in areas with lower federation presence.
Total Societal Upheavel - Half of the population of the Universal Century died in the One Week Battle. Side 4 Moore was completely destroyed. There’s going to be some serious societal reconstruction after that no matter how you look at it. (Sidebar - Polygamy is mentioned as being a lot more common in Gundam Thunderbolt after the OYW, due to the massive gender disparity - you could also read this as Universal Century also being supportive of Lesbians). It’s not necessarily a driving force behind Zeon Remnant groups, but it’s worth remembering.
Military Experience - The big one, in my opinion. You have a lot of individuals with military experience after the war, including Guerilla warfare. This includes all the forces that had to adapt to new environments, like fighting in space, in colonies or on earth. There’s also a massive postwar economic depression. That’s not going to breed contentment towards a weak government, especially one that wasn’t doing a good job before the war.
In a nutshell, Zeon has the experience, materials and drive necessary to continue being a problem after the One Year War, and the Earth Federation Government doesn’t have the institutional will to stop them until Operation Stardust, which leads to the creation of the Titans, which really don’t help the situation.
Feel free to mention anything I’ve missed!
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iftadwascool · 4 months ago
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Mobile Suit Gundam: Hathaway
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isotridecanol · 1 year ago
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x751206 · 5 months ago
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宇宙世紀革命路線的再思考
宇宙世紀革命路線的再思考 機動戰士裡的反抗組織與革命策略
我: 請介紹機動戰士Z鋼彈裡反地球聯邦組織幽谷與卡拉帕以及軍火商亞納海姆株式會社三者之間的關係,還有幽谷與卡拉帕聯手擊敗迪坦斯之後這些組織的後續狀況。
ChatGPT: 🌌 幽谷、卡拉帕與亞納海姆株式會社的關係解析 在《機動戰士Z鋼彈》(Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam)中,幽谷(A.E.U.G.)、卡拉帕(Karaba)與亞納海姆株式會社(Anaheim Electronics)是三個在反抗地球聯邦政府極權勢力的重要團體,特別是在對抗地球聯邦內部的極端派系迪坦斯(Titans)時發揮了關鍵作用。
🛰 1. 幽谷(A.E.U.G.) 全名:Anti Earth Union Group(反地球聯邦組織) 成立背景:由Side 1、Side 2和Side 4的殖民地居民以及一些前吉翁公國的殘黨共同組成。 他們對地球聯邦政府愈發腐敗、對宇宙殖民地的壓迫,以及迪坦斯的暴政感到不滿。 目標:推翻迪坦斯,改革地球聯邦政府,爭取宇宙居民的自由和平等。 成員背景: 主要來自聯邦軍內的改革派軍官,如布萊德·諾亞(Bright Noa)。 前吉翁公國的技術人員和軍官,如奧古斯特·阿西瑪(Reccoa Londe)。
🦅 2. 卡拉帕(Karaba) 領袖:海曼·康恩(Hayato Kobayashi),前白色基地的成員。 組織性質:地球上的反聯邦地下組織。 成立背景:由地球上的反聯邦分子和環保主義者組成,對抗地球聯邦政府對地球環境的過度開發和軍事化。 行動範圍:與幽谷不同,卡拉帕主要在地球上活動,對抗聯邦在地球上的軍事基地和迪坦斯的地面勢力。 主要成員: 阿姆羅·雷(Amuro Ray)——卡拉帕的重要戰力之一。 凱·西丹(Kai Shiden)——情報提供者,活躍於地球上的抵抗行動。
🏢 3. 亞納海姆株式會社(Anaheim Electronics) 公司性質:一家強大的軍火商與技術公司。 角色定位:名義上中立,實際上秘密支援幽谷與卡拉帕。 貢獻: 開發了Z鋼彈、百式等許多高性能的機動戰士(Mobile Suit)。 提供資金、技術與情報支援。 動機: 維護公司在宇宙和地球上的商業利益。 防止迪坦斯的極權統治影響公司運營和軍事技術市場。
⚔ 三者之間的合作關係 幽谷和卡拉帕在對抗迪坦斯的戰鬥中互為盟友: 幽谷主攻宇宙戰場,卡拉帕負責地球上的抵抗行動。 亞納海姆株式會社提供機體與技術支援,成為這兩個組織的主要軍火供應商。 亞納海姆的策略:表面保持中立,暗中推動反迪坦斯勢力,以確保自己在戰後的市場優勢。
🛡 戰後的後續發展
🎖 1. 幽谷的後續狀況 在幽谷與卡拉帕聯手成功擊敗迪坦斯後,地球聯邦政府一度受到整頓,但幽谷未能徹底改變聯邦的體制。 幽谷在《機動戰士ZZ鋼彈》中: 與新的勢力新吉翁(Neo Zeon)交戰。 幽谷的影響力逐漸減弱,但核心成員仍在推動宇宙居民的自治與和平。
🌍 2. 卡拉帕的後續狀況 卡拉帕在戰後逐漸淡出歷史舞台。 阿姆羅·雷在《機動戰士ZZ鋼彈》中短暫露面,但主要活躍於《機動戰士逆襲的夏亞》中。 卡拉帕的精神:繼續在一些獨立小組和反地球聯邦的地下勢力中延續。
💼 3. 亞納海姆株式會社的後續狀況 戰後的亞納海姆仍然是宇宙中最強大的軍火商。 不論戰爭的勝敗方,他們都能從中獲利,繼續為各方勢力提供機動戰士技術。 在後續作品中,亞納海姆被描繪成一個更加狡猾和利益至上的企業,甚至與各種勢力都有密切關聯,維持著自己在軍事市場中的壟斷地位。
🧩 關係總結 組織/公司 性質 領袖/代表人物 主要目標 戰後狀況 幽谷(A.E.U.G.) 反地球聯邦宇宙組織 布萊德·諾亞 推翻迪坦斯、改革聯邦政府 影響力逐漸減弱 卡拉帕(Karaba) 地球上的反聯邦組織 海曼·康恩、阿姆羅·雷 地球環境保護、對抗迪坦斯 戰後淡出歷史舞台 亞納海姆株式會社 軍火商、技術公司 不明 提供軍火技術、維護商業利益 繼續壟斷軍事市場
⚖ 總體評價 幽谷和卡拉帕雖然成功推翻了迪坦斯,但未能徹底改變地球聯邦的腐敗體制。 而亞納海姆株式會社在戰後繼續在各方勢力之間遊走,以保持自己的軍事技術優勢。 這也預示著戰爭的根源未能消除,而新的衝突仍在醞釀。
我: 在機動戰士閃光的哈薩維裡的反地球聯邦組織馬夫蒂,其核心成員是否由新吉翁失敗後的殘黨組成?
ChatGPT: 在《機動戰士 閃光的哈薩維》(Mobile Suit Gundam: Hathaway's Flash)中,反地球聯邦政府的組織馬夫蒂·納比尤·艾琳(Mafty Navue Erin)是由哈薩維·諾亞(Hathaway Noa)領導的反抗勢力。 但馬夫蒂並不是由新吉翁殘黨直接組成,而是有著更複雜的背景和成員來源。
以下是馬夫蒂的組織成員構成與其與新吉翁的關聯探討:
🦅 1. 馬夫蒂的成立背景與目標 馬夫蒂是一個致力於推翻地球聯邦政府的地下組織。 成立於U.C.0100年代,當時的地球聯邦政府變得更加腐敗和專制,尤其是對於地球環境的過度開發和對宇宙居民的壓迫。 哈薩維·諾亞以“馬夫蒂·納比尤·艾琳”為化名,成為組織的精神領袖和核心領導者。 核心目標: 推動地球人類的“宇宙移民”政策,減少對地球的負擔。 攻擊地球聯邦的高官和象徵腐敗的權力結構。 徹底改變聯邦政府的體制,建立一個更公平的宇宙社會。
🔎 2. 馬夫蒂的成員構成 馬夫蒂的成員來自多個背景,主要分為以下幾個類型:
📘 (1) 前幽谷與卡拉帕的支持者 馬夫蒂的部分成員來自幽谷(A.E.U.G.)和卡拉帕(Karaba)的舊勢力。 這些人對地球聯邦的改革抱有希望,但在幽谷和卡拉帕的運動失敗後,他們選擇繼續對抗聯邦政府。 哈薩維·諾亞本身就是幽谷的支持者布萊德·諾亞的兒子,因此受到了這些舊勢力的支持。
📘 (2) 地球上的環保激進分子 馬夫蒂的核心理念之一是保護地球環境,減少地球上的人口負擔。 這吸引了一批環保主義者和地球上的激進分子,他們對地球聯邦政府的開發政策感到不滿。
📘 (3) 吉翁系的殘黨或支持者 馬夫蒂確實吸收了一些新吉翁失敗後的殘黨,特別是那些不滿夏亞·阿茲納布爾(Char Aznable)“逆襲”失敗的吉翁支持者。 不過,這些吉翁成員在馬夫蒂內部的比例並不高。 馬夫蒂的思想路線與吉翁的「自護主義」有本質上的不同: 吉翁的核心理念是宇宙移民的自治權,甚至包括宇宙殖民地的獨立。 馬夫蒂的核心理念則是強制推動人類從地球遷移到宇宙,帶有更強的環保和生態保護色彩。
📘 (4) 地球聯邦內部的改革派官員 馬夫蒂也得到了地球聯邦內部改革派的秘密支持。 聯邦內部的某些官員對政府的腐敗和專制感到不滿,選擇暗中支持馬夫蒂的行動。
⚔ 3. 馬夫蒂與吉翁的區別 馬夫蒂 吉翁(Zeon) 由哈薩維·諾亞創立 由吉翁·戴肯創立 強調環保與人類從地球的遷移 強調宇宙殖民地的自治 攻擊地球聯邦的腐敗高層 主張與地球聯邦的獨立對抗 政治暗殺與游擊戰為主 全面戰爭與軍事衝突 與新吉翁僅有少量成員關聯 吉翁的正統延續
🌌 4. 馬夫蒂的行動方式與戰術 馬夫蒂的行動方式與吉翁的軍事行動大不相同。 馬夫蒂採取的是游擊戰術和暗殺行動,主要針對地球聯邦的高層人物進行政治暗殺。 哈薩維·諾亞認為,聯邦的腐敗來自於少數精英階層,因此只要清除這些腐敗的高官,就能推動體制改革。
💀 5. 馬夫蒂的最終命運 馬夫蒂的行動雖然造成了地球聯邦內部的震盪,但最終因為哈薩維·諾亞的身份曝光,以及反抗行動的失敗而瓦解。 哈薩維·諾亞被捕並處決,馬夫蒂的運動暫告一段落。 然而,馬夫蒂的思想和理念在後續的U.C.歷史中繼續影響著各種反聯邦勢力,甚至成為了宇宙世紀的永久課題。
🔗 6. 關聯總結:馬夫蒂與新吉翁的關係 馬夫蒂的成員中有部分新吉翁殘黨,但這並非主要構成力量。 馬夫蒂的理念與吉翁的「自護主義」不同,更傾向於環保主義和人類遷移的激進路線。 吉翁的影響在馬夫蒂的思想和行動中存在,但馬夫蒂更多是幽谷和卡拉帕的延續,並吸納了其他反聯邦的勢力。 總的來說,馬夫蒂與新吉翁的關係是間接的,但理念和組成結構有顯著區別。 馬夫蒂更像是U.C.後期的一個全新反聯邦運動,而非單純的吉翁殘黨復興。
我: 在閃光的哈薩維裡的反地球聯邦組織除了馬夫蒂之外,是否也有新吉翁殘黨在進行活動?
ChatGPT: 在《機動戰士 閃光的哈薩維》的時間點(U.C.0105),新吉翁殘黨的確依然在宇宙世紀的歷史舞台上活動,但與馬夫蒂之間的關聯相對有限。在《閃光的哈薩維》的故事中,新吉翁殘黨的活動較為低調,主要因為在第二次新吉翁戰爭(夏亞的逆襲)失敗後,新吉翁的力量已��大幅衰退,殘黨多數選擇以隱藏身分或小規模行動的方式繼續對抗地球聯邦政府。
以下是有關U.C.0105時期新吉翁殘黨活動的詳盡分析:
🚀 1. U.C.0105時期的新吉翁殘黨活動概況 🌌 (1)第二次新吉翁戰爭後的殘黨狀況 第二次新吉翁戰爭(即《機動戰士逆襲的夏亞》的事件)發生於U.C.0093年,以夏亞·阿茲納布爾的失敗告終。 戰爭結束後,聯邦政府加強了對吉翁殘黨的鎮壓行動。 但是,新吉翁殘黨並未完全消失。 他們選擇分散成小規模的抵抗勢力,隱藏於宇宙各殖民地、宇宙船團甚至地球上。
🌌 (2)殘黨活動的形式 新吉翁殘黨主要以恐怖活動和政治暗殺的形式,對抗地球聯邦政府。 他們沒有形成如馬夫蒂那樣的大規模組織,而是以分散的游擊隊或秘密結社的形式存在。
🧩 2. 馬夫蒂與新吉翁殘黨的互動與區別 📘 (1)馬夫蒂與新吉翁的理念差異 馬夫蒂 新吉翁殘黨 強調環保與人類遷移到宇宙 強調宇宙居民的自治與獨立 以政治暗殺為主要手段 以游擊戰與恐怖活動為主 哈薩維·諾亞領導,個人化色彩強 無統一領導,分散行動
馬夫蒂和新吉翁殘黨目標相似,都是為了對抗地球聯邦,但兩者的手段與理念明顯不同。 馬夫蒂更專注於環保與人口控制,希望推動人類從地球遷徙到宇宙。 新吉翁殘黨則延續了吉翁主義(Zeonism)的核心理念,強調宇宙殖民地的自治和反對地球至上主義。
📘 (2)馬夫蒂是否與新吉翁殘黨合作? 在《閃光的哈薩維》的故事中,馬夫蒂沒有與新吉翁殘黨建立正式的合作關係。 然���,在背景設定中提到,新吉翁殘黨的某些成員確實暗中支持馬夫蒂的行動,因為他們有共同的敵人——地球聯邦政府。
不過,哈薩維·諾亞本身並不認同吉翁的理念,因此他不願意與新吉翁殘黨過於密切地合作。 馬夫蒂希望建立一個全新的反抗運動,而不是重蹈吉翁的覆轍。
🕵️ 3. 地球上的新吉翁殘黨活動 在U.C.0105時期,新吉翁殘黨的活動主要集中在地球上的秘密行動。以下是一些典型的活動模式: 🌍 (1)恐怖襲擊 新吉翁殘黨在地球上發起了小規模的恐怖襲擊,針對地球聯邦的軍事設施和政治高層。 這些行動通常是隱秘且零散的,不像馬夫蒂那樣具有政治象徵性。
🌍 (2)協助地下組織 一些新吉翁殘黨成員選擇融入當地的反聯邦地下組織,提供武器和技術支援。 他們也會向馬夫蒂這樣的組織提供情報,但並未成為馬夫蒂的核心成員。
📜 4. 新吉翁殘黨未來的發展(U.C.後續劇情) 新吉翁殘黨的活動雖然在《閃光的哈薩維》中低調,但在宇宙世紀後續的劇情中,吉翁主義並未完全消失。 📚 (1)在《機動戰士F91》中 時間來到U.C.0123年,新吉翁的遺產被「宇宙貴族主義」的組織「十字先鋒軍(Crossbone Vanguard)」所繼承。 十字先鋒軍的理念與吉翁主義有某些相似之處,但更強調貴族階層的統治。
📚 (2)在《機動戰士V鋼彈》中 時間來到U.C.0150年代,地球聯邦政府徹底腐敗,而新的反抗勢力「扎布斯特(Zanscare Empire)」崛起。 雖然扎布斯特帝國與吉翁殘黨沒有直接聯繫,但他們繼承了反地球聯邦的精神。
🧩 5. 結論:新吉翁殘黨在U.C.0105的角色 問題 答案 新吉翁殘黨是否���在活動? 是,新吉翁殘黨在U.C.0105時期仍有小規模的活動。 新吉翁殘黨是否參與馬夫蒂? 部分新吉翁成員可能暗中支持馬夫蒂,但無正式合作關係。 新吉翁殘黨的行動方式? 以恐怖活動、游擊戰為主,分散於地球和宇宙各地。 馬夫蒂與新吉翁的最大區別? 馬夫蒂強調環保和人口遷移,而吉翁殘黨強調自治和獨立。
總的來說,新吉翁殘黨在《閃光的哈薩維》時期的活動是零散的,並未成為故事的主要力量。 他們雖然對馬夫蒂的行動抱持支持態度,但馬夫蒂與吉翁的理念分歧讓雙方未能正式合作。 新吉翁的遺產,則在宇宙世紀後續的歷史中,不斷以不同形式出現。
我: 同樣是反地球聯邦組織,哈薩維卻選擇獨自抗爭而不是與新吉翁殘黨合作,你認為這是否是導致馬夫蒂失敗的主要原因?
ChatGPT: 這個問題觸及了《閃光的哈薩維》中的一個核心議題:革命的成敗不僅取決於行動的正當性,還取決於領導者的策略選擇和同盟的建立。 哈薩維選擇不與新吉翁殘黨合作,的確是馬夫蒂最終失敗的原因之一。 然而,這個選擇背後有深刻的個人、歷史和理念層面的原因。
我將從以下幾個角度分析這個問題:
哈薩維為什麼拒絕與新吉翁合作? 這個選擇如何影響馬夫蒂的命運? 如果哈薩維與新吉翁合作,馬夫蒂能否成功? 最終失敗的根本原因是什麼?
🧩 1. 哈薩維為什麼拒絕與新吉翁合作? 哈薩維·諾亞選擇獨自抗爭,拒絕與新吉翁殘黨合作的原因,主要有理念、心理、歷史三個層面。
🌱 (1)理念上的分歧 哈薩維的理念: 馬夫蒂的核心目標是保護地球環境,透過強制遷徙政策讓人類離開地球,以減少地球的負擔。 哈薩維認為,聯邦政府的地球至上主義是造成環境問題的根源,因此聯邦必須被打倒。
新吉翁的理念: 新吉翁主張宇宙殖民地的自治與獨立,但並未提出解決地球環境問題的方案。 吉翁的歷史中,甚至不乏對地球進行報復性攻擊(如一週戰爭和殖民地落下作戰),導致大量地球居民傷亡。
理念上的分歧使得哈薩維無法接受與新吉翁合作。 他不想讓馬夫蒂被視為吉翁的延續,因為這會讓馬夫蒂的行動失去道德正當性。
🧠 (2)心理上的抗拒 哈薩維的父親布萊德·諾亞,曾是地球聯邦的高級軍官,也是幽谷(A.E.U.G.)的重要成員。 在《機動戰士Z鋼彈》和《機動戰士ZZ鋼彈》的劇情中,布萊德曾多次對抗新吉翁勢力。 哈薩維從小接受的價值觀來自父親,對吉翁的軍國主義和極端行動有本能的厭惡。 因此,哈薩維心理上很難接受與新吉翁殘黨合作。 他希望開創一個新的反抗運動,而不是成為吉翁殘黨的傀儡或延續者。
📚 (3)歷史的教訓 哈薩維深知,新吉翁的多次失敗都與過於激進的策略和失去民心有關。 吉翁公國在一年戰爭中濫殺無辜,導致被視為恐怖組織。 夏亞的逆襲失敗的原因之一,就是缺乏足夠的民間支持。 哈薩維不想重蹈吉翁的覆轍,因此選擇了一條更為孤立但更具道德正當性的道路。
⚔ 2. 這個選擇如何影響馬夫蒂的命運? 哈薩維拒絕與新吉翁殘黨合作,讓馬夫蒂在資源、軍事力量和人員支持上都受到嚴重限制。
🔧 (1)資源短缺 新吉翁殘黨擁有大量的剩餘軍備和技術資源,如果馬夫蒂能夠合作,將能獲得更多的機動戰士和軍火支援。 然而,馬夫蒂的軍備主要依賴於亞納海姆公司的秘密支持,導致組織的武裝力量有限,無法應對聯邦軍的全面鎮壓。
🪖 (2)人力不足 馬夫蒂的核心成員多為地球上的激進分子和少數聯邦內部的改革派,但缺乏經驗豐富的軍事人才。 如果能吸收新吉翁的戰鬥經驗豐富的士兵,馬夫蒂的軍事行動力將大大提升。
🤝 (3)缺乏盟友 新吉翁殘黨雖然不再是大規模的軍事勢力,但在宇宙各地仍有分散的支持者。 馬夫蒂選擇單打獨鬥,導致他們在國際社會上孤立無援。
🌟 3. 如果哈薩維與新吉翁合作,馬夫蒂能否成功? 這個問題有兩個層面的答案:
✅ (1)成功的可能性 如果馬夫蒂與新吉翁殘黨合作,將能大大提高軍事實力,在與聯邦的對抗中取得更多勝利。 同時,新吉翁的情報網絡和資源,也能幫助馬夫蒂更有效地策劃行動。
❌ (2)失敗的風險 然而,如果馬夫蒂與新吉翁合作,將面臨一個致命的政治風險——
被視為吉翁的延續,失去民眾的支持。 聯邦政府會更強力地鎮壓馬夫蒂,並將其污名化為恐怖組織。 總的來說,與新吉翁合作雖然能提高軍事力量,但也會損害馬夫蒂的政治正當性,從而使運動的目標難以實現。
🔥 4. 最終失敗的根本原因是什麼? 馬夫蒂的失敗,其實不僅僅是缺乏盟友的問題,而是因為地球聯邦的體制問題過於根深蒂固。
地球聯邦政府已經成為一個極度腐敗的官僚體制,靠著對地球資源的壟斷和對宇宙居民的壓迫維持統治。 即便馬夫蒂成功暗殺了一些高官,聯邦的整個結構並未動搖。 哈薩維的悲劇在於,他低估了革命的難度,而且他過於堅持單純的理想主義,忽視了現實的政治權謀。
💡 5. 結論:馬夫蒂的失敗是必然還是偶然? 哈薩維拒絕與新吉翁合作的選擇,是出於道德和理念的堅持,但這也導致了馬夫蒂的孤立。 馬夫蒂的失敗有其必然性,因為地球聯邦的腐敗體制不是靠暗殺幾個高官就能解決的問題。 如果馬夫蒂與新吉翁合作,可能在短期內取得更多戰果,但長期來看,仍難以推翻聯邦的統治。 最終,哈薩維的悲劇在於,他背負了理想與現實的雙重矛盾,成為宇宙世紀中又一個無法打破現狀的反抗者。
我: 假設你就是哈薩維,你可能採取哪些手段,引導馬夫蒂贏得這場革命戰爭的勝利?
ChatGPT: 假設我就是哈薩維·諾亞,我將設法避免馬夫蒂重蹈歷代反抗勢力的覆轍,並採取更有效的策略來對抗地球聯邦政府,推動革命成功。 為了讓馬夫蒂贏得最終的勝利,我將從軍事策略、政治宣傳、組織架構、外交手段和長期目標五個層面,設計一套更具可行性的革命戰略。
⚔️ 1. 軍事策略:建立分散的游擊戰網絡,避免集中對抗 🔧 (1)避免正面衝突,實行「分散化抵抗」 馬夫蒂在原作中犯了一個重大錯誤——過於依賴少數精銳力量進行暗殺和突擊行動,導致被聯邦軍迅速定位、圍剿。
我將採取分散式游擊戰���策略,將馬夫蒂組織劃分為多個獨立細胞,分布在各大殖民地和地球各地。這樣可以:
降低指揮中心被殲滅的風險 提升組織的生存能力 加大聯邦軍的防禦壓力,迫使他們分散兵力
🚀 (2)重視「非對稱戰爭」武器的開發和運用 開發新型MS(機動戰士):我將優先開發小型、隱蔽性高的MS,減少對昂貴戰艦的依賴。 運用電子戰和情報戰:針對聯邦的指揮系統和通訊網絡,進行電子干擾,削弱其作戰能力。 利用恐慌戰術:採取小規模破壞行動,襲擊聯邦政府的象徵性設施,製造政治動盪,削弱聯邦的統治合法性。
🧩 2. 政治宣傳:爭取民心,塑造馬夫蒂的正當性 📣 (1)從「恐怖組織」轉型為「解放運動」 馬夫蒂在原作中因為暗殺行動被聯邦政府污名化為恐怖組織。 為了扭轉這一局面,我將進行全面的宣傳戰,讓馬夫蒂變成一個代表民意的解放運動:
透過宇宙網絡發布公開聲明,解釋馬夫蒂的目標是拯救地球的未來,而非單純的反政府暴力。 揭露聯邦政府的腐敗和暴行,讓殖民地居民和地球居民意識到聯邦政府的不公與壓迫。 製作宣傳短片,展示馬夫蒂成員的理想與人性,讓大眾理解我們的動機。
🖋 (2)策動聯邦內部的改革派 聯邦政府內部並非鐵板一塊,存在許多不滿現狀的改革派。 我將秘密接觸這些官員,促使他們在關鍵時刻倒戈,從內部削弱聯邦的統治:
爭取部分地方政府的支持,讓殖民地和地球上的城市政府宣布自治,削弱聯邦的控制範圍。 收集聯邦高官的腐敗證據,透過媒體曝光,讓聯邦政府的公信力崩潰。
🤝 3. 組織架構:擴大聯盟,吸納其他反聯邦勢力 🌌 (1)與新吉翁殘黨建立戰略合作 儘管我不認同新吉翁的極端軍國主義,但我將嘗試吸納吉翁殘黨的部分勢力,尤其是那些已經放棄極端手段、希望進行和平改革的派系:
吉翁的情報網絡和軍事技術,對馬夫蒂來說是寶貴的資源。 我將設法控制合作的範圍,避免被吉翁殘黨的極端派系劫持。
🌍 (2)與殖民地的自治運動聯盟 宇宙世紀的殖民地居民對聯邦政府的壓迫和歧視早已不滿,我將與各殖民地的自治運動建立聯盟,將馬夫蒂的影響力擴大至宇宙:
提供武器和訓練給殖民地的自治組織,讓他們能夠對抗聯邦駐軍。 協助殖民地發起獨立公投,以合法的形式挑戰聯邦的統治權。
🌐 4. 外交手段:尋求外部支持,孤立聯邦政府 🌍 (1)與地球上的環保組織合作 馬夫蒂的核心理念是拯救地球的環境。 我將尋求地球上的環保團體和科學界的支持,讓馬夫蒂的行動獲得更多的道德正當性。
與國際媒體合作,曝光聯邦政府對地球環境的破壞行為。 組織全球性的環保抗議活動,讓馬夫蒂的理念深入民心。
🤝 (2)與中立國和宇宙企業合作 亞納海姆公司等宇宙企業在聯邦政府和反抗勢力之間保持中立。 我將說服這些企業提供秘密援助,以換取未來的政治利益。 尋求中立殖民地的支持,讓他們提供庇護和資源給馬夫蒂的成員。
🎯 5. 長期目標:逐步削弱聯邦的統治根基 🕰 (1)推動聯邦體制的改革 革命的最終目標並不是完全推翻聯邦政府,而是迫使聯邦體制進行改革。 我將:
推動聯邦內部的憲政改革,減少軍部的影響力,增加地方自治權。 促成宇宙居民的代表機構,讓殖民地的聲音能夠在聯邦內部被聽見。
🌱 (2)建立新秩序,確保革命成果 防止內部權力鬥爭:我將建立一個透明的領導架構,避免馬夫蒂內部發生權力腐化的問題。 教育下一代:革命的成果需要長期的理念推廣,我將設立學院來教育下一代的政治領袖,確保馬夫蒂的理想能夠世代延續。
🔥 結論:革命的勝利之路 如果我作為哈薩維,採取這些策略,馬夫蒂的革命將更有希望成功。 核心在於:
分散化的游擊戰策略 強化政治宣傳,爭取民心 與其他反抗勢力建立聯盟 尋求外部支持,孤立聯邦政府 推動長期的體制改革
「革命不是一場短期的勝利,而是一場長期的思想與行動的變革。」 只要堅持正確的策略,馬夫蒂將不再是曇花一現的反抗組織,而是引領宇宙世紀未來的真正力量。
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hypvalsqr · 2 years ago
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MAFTY NAVUE ERIN
I haven't seen dancing pumpkin guy ONCE this year, are you guys okay?
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amalgamasreal · 2 years ago
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Why go to therapy when you can become an ecological terrorist while still pining over the girl who left you to join a TOTALLY not gay man with a death wish who then was blown up in a mobile armor before said man and his object of obsession ascended to a higher plane of existence? Ignoring these two women who're obviously holding a candle for you the entire time:
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Bright Noa out here being a great dad to everyone EXCEPT his own damn kid.
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ydotome · 4 years ago
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Do it! They're fakes! - Mobile Suit Gundam: Hathaway's Flash - June 11, 2021
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bobgoesw00t · 4 years ago
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SO the first Mobile Suit Gundam Hathaway movie is out on Netflix today and not even 30 minutes into the film THEY GAVE US SOME SMEXY HATHAWAY FAN SERVICE OF HIM IN THE SHOWER!!! OOO BOY it just got steamy in here cause DAAAAAAAMN he be FINE!!!!!
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theowlhousefanboy · 1 year ago
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Good. A little more effort, disillusionment on her parents and friends, and other Freudian reasons, and she'll end up the Disney Television Animation Omniverse's equivalent of Mafty Navue Erin.
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hath-e · 9 months ago
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I am so normal about him
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Mafty Navue Erin from Mobile Suit Gundam: Hathaway's Flash
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hotvampireadjacent · 3 years ago
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i’ll ignore mentioning Nrvnqsr Chaos (pronouced nero) from tsukihime and talk more about goofy gundam names. this is the funniest gundam name hands down
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i could go on all day about goofy gundam names but while not as funny as full frontal its an honorable mention is mafty navue erin.
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i honsetly forgot what this was supposed to mean so i googled it
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 I lost the source to this but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. I read somewhere the reason the gundam characters have a lot of unusual names is because the creator, Yoshiyuki Tomino, became disillusioned when producing gundam and noticing that the people he had to report to only cared about the marketable toys he could make and started naming some really bashit things to see if they’d be approved. 
Anime is great. Anime will be like “this is my character of ambiguous western descent. Their name is the most incomprehensible combination of made up sounds. And if not that, it is a name that has not appeared on a single birth certificate since 1773.
Code Geass went and said “most of these character hail from Future Sort-of-Britain, including our main character, who will be named Lelouch just like every single British person isn’t.” Then they decided to distract you from this by naming his love interest Shirley, cornering the market of 80+ year old grandmothers clutching their 3 bowls of strawberry sucker candy in delight. Code Geass didn’t even call it a day here they had one more trick up their sleeve and it was to name the third character in the group Rivalz, a name and a character which appeal to exactly no one.
Tiger and Bunny said “What should our western young-20′s heartthrob successful pretty-boy deuteragonist be named? What screams ‘young’ and ‘trendy’ and ‘brilliant’ and ‘sexy’? Barnaby. Barnaby Brooks. This is our Sex Symbol Barnaby.” I bet a bunch of ghosts from the 17th century were stoked about that one. I bet Barnaby walks into gift shops asking if they have any of the travel keychains in his name and he gets laughed out of the store. I bet Barnaby’s parents didn’t die, they just faked their deaths to get away from him seeing as they hated him enough to name him Barnaby.
I haven’t followed Attack on Titan in 7 years but yall have a character named Pieck Finger. That’s it that’s my roast.
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popmovie888 · 3 years ago
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Mobile Suit Gundam Hathaway โมบิลสูท กันดั้ม ฮาธาเวย์ส แฟลช (2021) พากย์ไทย
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กำกับโดย  Shūkō Murase ผลิตโดย  Hiroyuki Kikukawa / Toshikazu Naka เขียนโดย  Yasuyuki Muto สตูดิโอ  Sunrise ได้รับอนุญาตจาก   Netflix (สต��ีมมิ่ง) ปล่อยแล้ว   11 มิถุนายน 2564 – ปัจจุบัน ตัวอย่าง https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuF9BEJQKZA ภาพรวม Mobile Suit Gundam Hathaway โมบิลสูท กันดั้ม ฮาธาเวย์ส แฟลช (2021 )  อย่างไรก็ตาม ในอีกไม่กี่ปีข้างหน้า ความโลภและความหวาดระแวงของสหพันธ์ฯ ทำให้พวกเขาก่อตั้งหน่วย "Man Hunter" เพื่อส่งพลเรือนที่ด้อยโอกาสหรือไม่เป็นที่พึงปรารถนาทั่วโลกไปยังอาณานิคมอวกาศ Hathaway ซึ่งตอนนี้ใช้ชื่อ Mafty Navue Erin ยังคงถูกหลอกหลอนโดยการกระทำในอดีตของเขาเกี่ยวกับการตายของ Quess Paraya และสะท้อนถึงการกระทำและความเชื่อของ Char และ Amuro เขาเริ่มต้นการกระทำของผู้ก่อการร้ายต่อสหพันธ์และเจ้าหน้าที่ระดับสูงของสหพันธรัฐเพื่อแก้แค้น โดยใช้ยูนิตต้นแบบใหม่ RX-105 Ξ Gundam (Xi Gundam, "Ksee Gundam") ในการตอบสนอง Kenneth Sleg แห่ง Earth Federation Space Forces ได้รวบรวม Circe Unit นำโดย Lane Aim ซึ่งขับ RX-104FF Penelope เพื่อหยุด Mafty »  แหล่งที่มา : TMDB  «        »  ดูหนังใหม่ « Read the full article
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