#mage of void

[starlit1daydream]

Mages & Seers: Experience and Comprehension

Those who know, everybody. I love Seers - so this should be one hell of an analysis.

The Mage:Seer class dichotomy embodies experience, comprehension and knowledge of their Aspect. Their Quest and their role in the session revolves wholly around their personal comprehension of their Aspect; and the ways in which that may shift or change their (or others!) viewpoint.

I can't definitively say they're one of the Classes that say something about their session, beyond perhaps the concept that a Mage or a Seer will obviously have a well of knowledge on their Aspect present.

Canonical Mage players are Sollux Captor (Mage of Doom) and Meulin Leijon (Mage of Heart).

Canonical Seer players are Rose Lalonde (Seer of Light), Terezi Pyrope (Seer of Mind) and Kankri Vantas (Seer of Blood).

Point A. The narrative function of the Mage.

Mages know about their Aspect. They are that simple to understand. A lot of people will argue that the Mage is one of the more nebulous classes in Homestuck; and I'd argue this is because there really isn't much in the way of complexity with them. They've got a fairly straightforward relationship with their Aspect; having experienced it wholly throughout their life prior to the session.

It's almost, to me, as if their Aspect haunts them in a sense. We see this with Sollux's recurring visions of Doom and misfortune; considering that the Mages & Seers are meant to fill a sort of 'prophet' archetype.

Sollux is consistently depicted as knowledgeable on coding (a manifestation of Doom in the form of rigid order and regulation) and holding a vast well of knowledge and foresight on the topic of suffering. It's important to hold the distinction that Doom does not deal directly with absolute death (Time does), and so Sollux's visions are of the imminently doomed and the suffering, not the already deceased.

Meulin is a little more difficult to pin down, but inference from stray lines of dialogue and particularly her complex moirallegiance with Horuss give me some substance to work with. Toxic positivity? Alluded 'darkness' in her without elaboration? Her disability being inflicted directly as a result of her partner & lover? I think what we're looking at here is depression.

If Meulin has experience with Heart in all facets - this implies to me that she has a share of experience with emotion in all facets. Good and bad. And what better manifestation of poor emotional control than that? I think it's a very conclusive theory.

It becomes clear to me that Mages aren't absolute in their assertions, and so therein comes my theory that their quest involves an expansion of perspective and reconsideration of their knowledge. It is to accept that they may not understand their Aspect as thoroughly as once thought and subsequently grow to accomodate a wider worldview. They're stagnant, having experienced so much that they feel they have no further room to learn.

Point B. The practical function of the Mage.

This is a more difficult one to understand since neither Mage in the comic God Tiers and they aren't seen fighting much over the course of the story. Even when Sollux takes to action, he applies his psiionics rather than utilising Doom in any way.

My theory is that the application of a Mage is to inform. Mages & Seers may very well hold the same occupation broadly speaking, to accomodate for the gaps in co-players' knowledge and bring about newfound understanding. Being active players, the Mages presumably advance this through their own means. This is some of the most active conjecture I'll be writing, since we do not ever see a God-Tiered Mage in canon.

Point C. The narrative function of the Seer!

In case it wasn't obvious, I am very excited to get this segment done; after all, who better to talk on the topic of Seers than... a Seer?

Seers have a little more depth to their function involving their relationship with both their Aspect and its diemetric opposite. Seers begin their sessions holding a poor or deficient comprehension of their Aspect; to the point where they seek their opposite. The notion of their base Aspect comes into play fairly soon - though they may superficially seek their opposite, it is their Aspect they seek in actuality.

They do hold a certain level of foresight, but rather than the Mage's inherent comprehension, Seers tend to rely upon external sources and stimuli to further their understanding; Rose with the Horrorterrors, Terezi with Scratch & Aranea, and we can only guess with Kankri.

They are capable of having visions, though - as Rose & The Signless can both attest to!

Rose seeks Void. She seeks to breach the unknowable, catalogues the Zoologically Dubious and finds comfort in oblivion and the pursuit of ignorance. She resolves to leave the game to Void rather than seek its Light; at first.

Terezi seeks Heart. Her final speech to Vriska talks of her emotional insecurity and pursuit of self-assurance. She wishes most prominently for security in herself and her identity; and yet this manifests in a flawed pursuit of binary, deficient Mind.

Kankri seeks Breath. Having been coddled and patronised all his life, freedom is his ultimate aim. His rebellious spirit and compulsive boot-licking seem to be a direct manifestation of his desire to think for himself and be free in his direction. Kankri's a particularly interesting one given that he fucked up his quest, canonically.

...The Signless didn't, however. The Signless pursued unity through freedom his whole life.

Rose resolves to pursue knowledge through the unknown.

Terezi seeks logic through emotion.

All of them grow, the further they pursue their Session's aims, to understand their base Aspect. It's a reversal of the Mage's quest; the stagnant Mage must embrace diversity wheras the directionless Seer embraces their certain path.

Point D. The practical function of the Seer.

Apologies, this is going to be mostly just about Rose.

Rose's role in her session post-ascension is to understand and inform her session-mates about the most fortuitous path. Her visions allow her to comprehend Light and sift through the endless possibilities and synthesis of her Aspect to find the most precise outcome. They grow to be an indispensible well of knowledge; always learning and finding out their Aspect's truth.

Terezi does the same, albeit without ascending; her greatest moment of heroism is the prelude to the Retcon, which she directly causes. Terezi applies all of her knowledge of consequence, cause & effect to undo the resultant consequences of the actions taken by her sessionmates. She uses her comprehension of Mind to her utmost ability; which is why I find it gut-wrenching that she still believes she was never enough.

Kankri... does jack shit other than be a whiny little bootlicker, but The Signless certainly applies his Aspect for the greater good. The fire of his rebellion and his pursuit of unity and free communication on Alternia ignite the spark of revolution for generations to come; his quest for Blood bringing utmost comprehension and sight of unity.

Overall, this is one Class where the narrative:practical lines tend to blur a little, owing to the general non-combatant status of the Classes in general. Rose shows they're capable of using their Aspect in combat just as all players are; but it seems clear to me that they function the best as advisors.

Next week, I'll be elucidating on the Witches & Heirs; which will be an interesting one since it'll require me to actually understand what a Witch does. That should be fun.

Take care, everybody. I know nothing.

[cgtg]

VOID PLAYERZ ONLY

as with the prev polls: if you consider multiple, i suggest going for the one u feel aligned with currently/most often, which one u wanna represent in a poll like this, whichever has the most compelling role/narrative, whatever works for U. classpecting is very subjective, and fluid for a lot of people.

i actively encourage discussion in the replies of what your class and aspect mean to u. simple or lengthy, i wanna hear it :J

excluding master classes bc no space for em, sorry.

for those who cant vote: i’d appreciate u passing the poll along. also, i’ll likely post updates throughout the week on how it’s going so everyone can have a peek inside. thank u

[tazzarts]

Mage of void.

Commission me!

[brainless-but-thats-all]

enter the void

[k-arb]

Ive decided that mages should have their own books associated with them. either they write them or own them.

Mage of Breath: Book on weather patterns. Mage of Life: Cook book. Mage of Light: Encyclopedia. Mage of Time: History book. Mage of Heart: Romance Novel. Mage of Rage: Perhaps an anger management book, or a journal of sorts? (think journaling to vent your frustrations.) Mage of Blood: Textbook on how the human body works. Mage of Doom: Programming for dummies. Mage of Void: Maybe a book about cryptids, or other mysterious creatures. Or someone elses journal. Mage of Space: Textbook about Physics. Mage of Mind: Psychology textbook. Mage of Hope: Some sort of religious text (bible, torah, etc)

[exmanifest]

HAPPY 4/13!!!!!!!!

HERES MY TROLLSONA TO CELEBRATE!!!!!!!!!

I usually don’t post all that much, but today is bestest day ever (typo intentional) and I really wanted to contribute something to the celebration of this bullshit webcomic (positive).

Her name is Sphynx Anehel, she is the Mage of Void, and I modeled her after: 1. The fit I was wearing while drawing her and 2. My own personal insecurities. Tried to be as accurate as possible to Homestuck’s style.

Thanks for bearing witness to my horrid creation <3

I love you all and have a happy April 13th

[sylversterlingstarz]

a prospit dreaming heir of light and a derse dreaming mage of void (i completed the sketch)

combining two media interests into one is either heaven or hell (for me, it led me to waste many hours on classpecting various oct contestants), and thats what i did, im gonna do more contestants eventually bc my conclusions finally made me feel smart in a way that isnt academic

explanations for the classpecting below cut due to possible lore spoilers

anyways eric is an heir of light according to me bc of how hes, well, an heir to his family business (and the fact that heirs often have to do with death in a way, with eric having to deal with the eventual loss of his grandfather), and light being based on his innovativeness and his yearning to know/experience more, especially for the company, even if it leads him being seen as arrogant or insensitive in a way, but his resourcefulness balances that out

for mizuno, he had already experienced a lot, yet he still has a lot of opportunities and potential to grow as a person... or former lab experiment/escapee, anyways, also leading him to be skeptical and eccentric in a way through his shyness and skepticism, as well as him receiving knowledge through both experience and that little voice in his head (which i believe is a rogue/thief of breath, if the real voices physical form is even alive)

to be fair, most of it is just through both vibes and aspects of their character/personality, so feel free to disagree and fight me in the comments or inbox abt what u think

[sparklygummybear]

a super quick doodle of another gary-sue oc i remade. he is a dead limeblood.

(edit: just realized his symbol is drawn backwards bruh)

his name is brokat ventus and honestly his name does have etymology to it but i also decided to keep it bc it sounds like a shitty variation of karkat vantas lol. like a bonus reference to kk’s mutant limeblood roots idk.

(koi means brocaded carp. brokat is brocade in a different language. ventus = wind in different language as well. more fitting for a breath player but oh well it’s a reference to his lusus, and experience with void “to the wind” and “in the wind” phrases)

assuming that fiamet from hiveswap is a limeblood i also gave him six horns (assuming it’s the norm for their caste) and i made him have those koi fish whiskers like how fiamet has an axolotl tail (his lusus is a koi fish). his sign kinda looks like two koi fish so i just went with that as the lusus. his lusus is also dead lmao.

he’s prospit sway and void bound so he’s familiar with void and irrelevance and obscurity (he’s dead lol). probably a mage of void or smth idk we’ll see.

he likes music and art and romantic films (ok karkat from temu) and stalking his alive friends.

he has those limeblood powers that got him killed. what they are? idk. probably some immunity to chucklevoodoos from purplebloods or he has the equivalent of them but in the positive direction. but he’s dead so

[flutteredvoid]

updated kidsona ^_^

[ask-the-witch-of-mind]

Hiiii

Id love to hear your thoughts on the Mage of Void (<- my classpect !)

hi! thx 4 ur ask 8D here are my th0ughts 0n the mage 0f v0id:

i personally think mages are more likely to be derse dreamers then prospit dreamers (eg sollux and meulin) the main reason i think this is because (other than cannon examples of mages) on the research ive done, it never fails to say something along the lines of "mages suffer from the horrorterrors". i assume for prospit mages, skaia would take the place of the horrorterrors. (to be more specific about mages "suffering" through the horrorterrors and skaia, i assume its through the knowledge it gives or just its existence in general)

mages know their aspect/know through their aspect, void is about secrecy, nothingness and absence of things, so with this in mind; a mage of void would know void/know through void (quite literally knowing nothing/knowing through nothing.)

mages of void would be extremely well at telling when someone is lying, whether that be through speech, behaviour and movement patterns. along with this mages of void would be extremely well at lying (ironically enough)

mages of void might feel useless and/or meaningless, which could lead to them isolating themselves

people can often not think/care much of the mage of void, which could potentially come back to bite them. mainly because mages of void never forget secrets, they always seem to know WHERE you've put some weirdly specific item, and HOW you've forgotten it.

[aortaobservatory]

How's it going. Would you be able to give you thoughts on the mage of void.

Mage of [Void]:

Know - Too Much Experience with Void

A player who gains thorough understanding of [The Unknown and Possibilities] through near constant good and bad experiences with [Secrecy and Potential], and uses their understanding of it in a practical way to progress

A Mage of Void is almost constantly experiencing secrecy and potential in the people around them and their surroundings, which gives them a unique understanding of how the unknown and possibilities can help a situation... or hurt a situation.

Mages are flooded with their aspect, uniquely experiencing both the good and the bad of it. As a result, they gain a unique understanding of what their aspect is or does, often resenting it or becoming jaded and frustrated with it, but never rejecting it. Their challenge is to become open to new insight or different perspectives than their own.

Inverse Classpect Analysis of Mage

Mage of Void: Void (Secrecy, Unknown, Potential, Possibilities) is actively there. Too much experience with aspect causes innate understanding of it.

Inverse: Heir of Light

By experiencing the active presence of Void (Secrecy, Unknown, Potential, Possibilities), the Mage passively changes Light (Knowledge, Evaluation, Insight, Meaning) in others as they understand Void (Secrecy, Unknown, Potential, Possibilities).

Embodiment of Light (Knowledge, Evaluation, Insight, Meaning) in others is changed by the Mage's experience with Void (Secrecy, Unknown, Potential, Possibilities).

The analysis written above is my own writing, analysis, and thoughts. The statements are my own analysis, but they may function as a “fill in the blank” statement for you to create your own interpretation of the classpect as you please.

-aortaObservatory

[yourfaveisclasspected]

THE SPY is a MAGE of VOID!

Requested by @puella-1n-somn10!

[our-fav-hs-char]

Which is the cooler classpect?

[giftofclasspects]

and the void playlists are done! here are a few of my favorites,

witch

rogue

maid

[starlit1daydream]

rudimentary thoughts

Monika is a Witch of Doom with a Dersite sway

Sayori is a Page of Blood with a Prospit sway

Yuri is a Mage of Void with a Dersite sway

Natsuki is a Knight of Life with a Prospit sway

[ultra-clashpects]

heir-mage of light-void?

THE HEIR-MAGE OF LIGHT-VOID

The Heir-Mage of Light-Void is someone who is stuck between two separate worlds and two different desires, one to be known and to know everything, and the other to disappear into the shadows and never be recognized or perceived by anyone or anything ever again. The Heir-Mage of Light-Void strives to understand and to become one with their aspects, they yearn to know how the world works and everything that they possibly can, but they also want to squander any lies that might be floating around in the ether that travels from one person to the next.

The Heir-Mage of Light-Void rarely ever leaves their comfort zone, always staying just on the brink of safety but far back enough to where they won’t be found unless they want to, using the Void and the shadows to hide themself from view until they’re ready to make their grand reappearance into the Light. The Heir-Mage of Light-Void lives in a delicate balance between the known and the unknown, the public and the private, the Light and the Void, and eventually they will be able to essentially become one with both of these, completely controlling the flow of information as they decide what people get to know and what stays hidden, what secrets get aired out and what information gets to stay locked away and forgotten by everyone who ever knew it.

The Heir-Mage of Light-Void is part Heir of Light, which means that they are intuitive and witty and creative, they seek out the Light and the goodness of the world, and they love to help out others and teach people the right way to do things or how to properly get away with doing something, or just generally helping in any sense. They believe in the goodness of the world, knowing that there is Light even in the darkness and that sometimes you just need a little bit of help to bloom and show your true potential, and the Heir will become the Light that teaches and helps those along the way.

The Heir-Mage of Light-Void is part Heir of Void, which means that they like to stay out of the view of the public and prefer to spend their time alone, maybe with a loved one or two, but there’s nothing better than finding peace in the solitude of your own life. They are great at keeping secrets, they rarely ever discuss information or private knowledge with anyone at all, and they are one with the shadows that protect people like themself and even though they have a tendency to get in their own head at times, they always remain down to earth and reliable no matter what.

The Heir-Mage of Light-Void is part Mage of Light, which means that they understand all the vast things that the world offers them in terms of knowledge, which is both a blessing and a curse because they didn’t exactly ask for all of the powers that they get but it’s a benefit so they’re not really going to complain about something good happening to them. They are intelligent and they’re great at telling what is important or good and what is meaningless, they have the ability to enlighten others as to the state of the world and how to fix things in their own personal lives, and really the only thing that they want out of life is a break.

The Heir-Mage of Light-Void is part Mage of Void, which means that they live in the shadows and they can create darkness from their understanding of it, which often proves helpful if they’re trying to hide or protect something from someone, but they don’t always get to get off scot-free every single time they do something that might be bad or illegal, and they can’t run from the consequences of their actions forever. They are likely somewhat disconnected from reality, living in their own little bubble where they cannot be harmed by anyone or anything, only ever emerging when they want to, but with all the time that they spend alone in their own solitude, they can use it to grow as a person and work on developing their powers so that they are ever stronger and perhaps one day, invincible.