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thelien-art · 8 days
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Makar & Meássë
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Still not over Makar speaking for Melkor´s release because he was bored, like, whatever you say man XD, for Meássë? the only thing I have to say is I fully understand Melkor not wanting to fight a woman who named herself "gore". kind of iconic tho...
Don´t know if I like their clothes design, but the other I like
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thelordofgifs · 1 year
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Obscure Tolkien Blorbo: Round 1
Eorl vs Meássë
Eorl:
Known as “the Young” because he became Lord of the Éothéod at only sixteen. Founder of Rohan.
Taming an untameble horse and demanding he carry him as a weregild for killing his father? What's not to love?
Meássë:
A warrior Vala from an early draft of the legendarium, sister of Makar.
She's described as being fierce and having bloody arms and i just think that's neat
She's a warrior Vala with bloody arms who thinks Valinor is for the Valar only. Silmarillion Valar are way too squeaky clean. Meássë makes them much messier and more interesting.
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aureentuluva70 · 1 year
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Prepare for trouble and make it double
"Yet even when all these had crossed the confines of the world...there came still hurrying late Makar and his fierce sister Meassë, and it had been better had they not found the world but remained forever with the ainur beyond Vaitya and the stars, for both were spirits of quarrelsome mood, and with some other lesser ones who came now with them had been the first and cried to join in the discords of Melko and to aid in the spreading of his music."
-Book of Lost Tales Part 1, The Coming of the Valar.
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crys-makes-art · 3 months
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Some more sketches from the last month!
Posting here by the request of @cilil - traditional joke about Melkor being maidenless. Also a design showcase.
Features also Measse (the OC, not the canon one it is a long story).
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crysdrawsthings · 2 years
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Heya, so, just dropping by to mention that no, rumors of my demise were exaggerated, but I am pretty tired lately, so don’t do much blogging. 
On a brighter note, my collection of Tolkien in English is growing steadily, I will be receiving copies of the Children of Hurin and Unfinished Tales soon, OCs are being rotated in my head like in a world’s worst microwave and I have a lot of oatmeal cookies. 
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I would love to hear some nessa/vana/tulkas/orome thoughts if you wanted to share?
Ohhhh yes I have so many thoughts. Firstly for the vibes I have one ultimate Brainrot Song For They which is The Cult of Dionysus by the Orion Experience.
Before I was actually shipping them they already all occupied the same place in my brain because they make a neat little box of relationships- Nessa and Orome are siblings, Tulkas and Vana are their spouses along with functionally being the "youngest" of the Valar (Vana the ever young, Tulkas the last to come to Arda), Orome and Tulkas have overlapping Domains of hunting and fighting and chase after Morgoth's beasties, Nessa and Vana are considered the weakest Valar and are associated with flowers and general disney princess vibes. That's the basis I was working on.
So it started with... probably Tulkas/Orome but Nessa/Vana wasn't far behind. Tulkas/Orome is peak "construct intricate rituals to touch other men by 'wrestling' in the forest" and also I thought their character vibes suited shipping very well (Tulkas "canonically laughs in battle" Astaldo and Orome "canonically constantly pissed off" Aldaron). Even the Tolkien Gateway article directly contrasts the two. I'm working with what I've got.
Nessa/Vana have textbook fairycore forest lesbian vibes. Making each other flower crowns and braiding each other's hair and dancing in a lush clearing with birds and butterflies and bees and delightful woodland creatures (not to mention Vana's plausible association with fertility ;) Quoth Tolkien Gateway: "Vána robed Nessa with her flowers for [Nessa's] wedding." Could this be gal pals? Sure! But where's the fun in that when it's super gay! This is the least feral pairing simply because of how they relate to each other, but they're also the most shameless.
Of course the problem is that I'm a chronic canon-shipper unless I Physically Cannot Stand it, and I do very much like Orome/Vana and Nessa/Tulkas because you get fun hunter/gardener and dance/dojo vibes respectively, so I fix this the same way that I fix every problem: polyamory!
Orome/Vana has definite Hades/Persephone vibes to me, but wilder and without the whole. Kidnaping thing. Yavanna even slots nicely into Demeter's role but again, no kidnapping. She's much more chill with her brother-in-law. I have many inarticulate vibes about Orome's Domain of the hunt and dying opposing and complimenting Vana's Domain of new life and fresh growth, and how hunters weren't supposed to kill deer in the spring. Because of this, I think Vana is one of the few Valar who has no subjugation(?) at all to Orome's Domain despite the clear nature overlap (others who wouldn't are Varda, Namo, Vaire, Nienna, and Aule, but that's because their Domains don't really overlap with his at all, except for Namo who as Death would overpower Dying.) They are, functionally, each other's force-pairs in Newton's third law- the equal and opposite reactions.
My love for Nessa/Tulkas is more characterization related: to me, they are the epitome of those 20-something Fitness Couples who keep those super detailed daily planners with spots to fill in how much water you drank, who make really healthy delicious looking meals with seemingly no effort and constantly drink various smoothies but like. Fantasy Flavor. Their idea of a hot date is to spot each other at the gym, and martial arts sparring. They would go feral for Capoeira. Crucially, they thrive off of this. Their relationship is astonishingly healthy and peppy and they serve as each other's hype-man. My vibes-only Valar-in-modern-society AU has them opening a strip mall dance class/dojo place.
So we have the siblings, and the spouses, and the spouse swap (which has some very funny crack potential, I specifically find it amusing to imagine Nessa calling dibs on Vana and tossing Tulkas to Orome before stealing her away (they are both very amused, Orome is vaguely aggravated because she could just ask for time with their wife)
Tulkas/Vana starts as something like a relationship of convenience, along the lines of "Hey, our spouses are busy chasing each other around like idiots for Sibling Shenanigans, want to make out?" but ends up as something not quite romantic but past... FWBs I guess lol. A foundation of their relationship is committing to the bit- If Nessa and Orome are arguing it's even odds as to who will side with who, but if either of them has an argument with Tulkas or Vana it is the other's sworn duty to side with their bestie, no matter how utterly stupid. They will "Yes-And" each other's stories into eternity, even if it's a blatantly untrue excuse. This drives their spouses absolutely insane because "I know you're lying, and I know you know I know you're lying, and I know for a fact that you weren't doing something as dumb as convincing Aule to put smiley face shapes in rocks" but they will double down. (The one time they did this to Yavanna while on a warpath was unintentional and terrifying once they realized, but they committed and got her so frustrated and confused that she bluescreened and stormed off, forgetting why she had been interrogating Vana in the first place). Basically, they bring out the idiot in each other, and despite having very little in common they get along very well. It is also important to me that I see their typical physical forms as being a massive, firey, golden-veined stone giant (Tulkas), and a young, uncanny, bug-eyed and golden-haired hobbit lass (Vana). To the Valar this doesn't really register as strange beyond vague inconvenience for interacting, but to any elves who see them hanging out together it Very Much Is.
To use the terms I used in Appointed, Orome and Vana are Counterpoints, Nessa and Tulkas, Nessa and Vana, and Orome and Tulkas are Harmonies, and Nessa and Orome are Tone-mates and Harmonies. Tulkas and Vana are not quite Harmonies but they harmonize regardless. Don't mind if this makes no sense lol.
#asks#lesbianhaleth#my headcanons#valar#orome#nessa#vana#tulkas#i need to come up with a convenient ship name for them...#bacchanalian gods#re: orome/vana yes im aware that namo slots neater into hades direct role thats not the point#namo is lord of the dead but orome is hunter/predator/killer the inevitable instinctual awareness of death and being chased#which is CLOSE ENOUGH for my vibes when vana slots perfectly over kore/persephone#I haven't actually listened to the magnus archives but from what I understand I think orome works very well as a kind of amalgamation#of the Fears (give or take and obviously hunt-focused) but more morally neutral/grey and less overtly negative#i tend to have him and nessa as splitting the domain of sheer animal instinct with orome as cause and nessa as effect#so like orome is fear: something-watching-stalking-you-destruction-coming-death-and-sickness and nessa is fight/flight/freeze/fawn#but the relationship there is definitely not unequal- even rabbits will kick when cornered and she is far more than a rabbit#i saw a headcanon- i think from actuallyfingolfin? that suggested that measse and nessa were just two aspects of the same vala#and that has fundamentally shaped my characterization since#i also guess i should say i don't think there's really incest going on#(inasmuch as that can apply to non-physical beings all made by the same creator whos sibling statuses seem arbitrary)#but like. nessa and orome's relationship is *weird*. definitely eyebrow-raising if they were human but they very much aren't#what with their domains and the overlap and their spouses and the inbuilt codependency of fate and sharing most of your Song#it goes to a bit of a indistinct grey area. for Flavor and Zest.#also i wobble back and forth on whether all of them are out about the relationship#i generally think it's one of those things everyone knows but you don't *say* for the valar#bc while i like my arda to be as accepting as possible there's the issue of The Canon Opinions On Polyamory re miriel/finwe/indis#but on the other hand the valar don't get incarnates or their relationships and maybe figure that elves can't marry more than one person#bc ainur don't really get married as we reckon so the whole polycule thing is fine for ainur actually but better not risk it for elves
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sasaranurude · 10 months
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I forgot about my mhyk bradnero roleswap AU fic... Wherein Bradley escapes capture so Figa+snowhi take Nero instead (because all they really needed is a symbol of villainous wizards, it's not about the action itself, it's just the optics of it, so Nero works just as well as Brad with the right spin, and you know Figaro is all about that spin), Brad struggles to keep the gang together and ends up moving East, and various dominoes fall in so many different ways... I probably won't ever write it (it ended up more of a worldbuilding exercise than a coherent narrative, so idek how to write it. Disjointed scenes would be the only way I could do it I think?) but it's a fun project to look fondly at the documents of LMAO
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hi guys im cancemling @mollysbearhoddie n
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becsfuse she keeps MEASSING WITH MY PHONE W4
TS BB
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sesamenom · 1 year
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Rules: Tag 10 or more people you want to get to know better
Tagged by @leucisticpuffin :)
Favorite color: Something a bit darker than cerulean. Also really light grey-blue
Song stuck in your head: Seitz concerto no. 5, 1st mvmt!
Favorite food: pho
Last song played: ...seitz concerto 5
Dream trip: I actually have no idea. Maybe if fictional destinations are allowed, Gondolin before its fall?
Last thing I googled: measse (am working on the giant family tree)
Tagging (no pressure!) @sakasakiii, @naarisz, @lycheesodas, @wilwarin-wilwa, @who-needs-words, @actual-bill-potts, @caenith, @mochamai, @hyperlexia-1, @outofangband
(sorry i answered this so late!!)
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edensrose · 1 year
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Have you heard of the "rejected" Valar that didn't make the final Silmarillion? They were called Makar, Measse and Omar. Makar and Measse were brother and sister. They were known to be loud, fierce, chaotic and somewhat warlike. I think they were ultimately scrapped for being too "Melkorish" but they're fascinating to think about.
We know less about Omar but he seemed to be a Valar of song and youth. He was described as "singing as he came [to Valinor]" I think he may have been scrapped due to the progression of the Song of Iluvatar as a concept--if he were the god of music, he would have caused severe power balance issues between Melkor and the Valar. Also, he was made somewhat redundant by Vana.
It's an interesting concept. Tell me what you think!
Oh damn, I've actually never heard about this! But yes, I do agree about the whole music thing in regards to Omar. Honestly we should have gotten Makar and Measse because we honestly could have used more valar and not to mention. . . CHAOTIC valar. Like please I don't subscribe to the notion that all the valar are these perfect little angels who do no wrong — come on tolkien this would have been so neat 😭
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a-world-of-whimsy-5 · 10 months
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20 Questions for Fic Writers
Thanks for the tag@cilil
1. How many works do you have on AO3? All of ten.
2. What’s your total AO3 word count? 29,414
3. What fandoms do you write for? Tolkien, GRRM and Hellboy (Prince Nuada)
4. What are your top 5 fics by kudos?
The same song: Maedhros/Maglor
Most beloved: Feanor/Finwe
The first of many glorious nights: Caranthir/Haleth
Fears: Feanor/Finwe
Mirror: Glorfindel/Erestor
5. Do you respond to comments? Why or why not? I do.
6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? Probably this, fires without restraint, a short fic featuring Nornorë/Mairon.
7. What’s the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? Probably Mirror, featuring Glorfindel/Erestor.
8. Do you get hate on fics? Nothing so far.
9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind? Yes. Soft, hardcore, and Dead-Dove.
10. Do you write crossovers? What’s the craziest one you’ve written? I have done so only once on tumblr, but never on AO3.
11. Have you ever had a fic stolen? As far as I know, this has not happened so far.
12. Have you ever had a fic translated? No.
13. Have you ever co-written a fic before? No.
14. What’s your all time favourite ship? Maedhros/Tulkas. Or Measse/Tulkas.
15. What’s a WIP you want to finish but doubt you ever will? Something based of season 8 of Game of Thrones. I ditched it because it was too complicated.
16. What are your writing strengths? Being able to come up with dialogue and world building.
17. What are your writing weaknesses? 5000+ word fics. Anything more than 2k to 3k words leaves me stuck in the mud for the most part.
18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in fic? Only if I understand the full context of what's going on between the characters.
19. First fandom you wrote for? Game of Thrones. On facebook.
20. Favourite fic you’ve written? A series of ficlets featuring characters in The Book of Lost Tales.
No tags, but anyone is free to join in!
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thelordofgifs · 1 year
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Obscure Tolkien Blorbo: Round 2
Silmariën vs Meássë
Silmariën:
The eldest child of Tar-Elendil, the fourth King of Númenor.
She missed out being a Ruling Queen by *one* generation!! But she inherited the Ring of Barahir and other heirlooms and the Lords of Andunie descended from her :)
Meássë:
A warrior Valië from an early draft of the legendarium, sister of Makar.
She's described as being fierce and having bloody arms and i just think that's neat
She's a warrior Vala with bloody arms who thinks Valinor is for the Valar only. Silmarillion Valar are way too squeaky clean. Meássë makes them much messier and more interesting.
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444names · 1 year
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korean and gaelic names BUT excluding "mc"
Abboins Aghtone Ailmady Aingan Ainklia Airey Aiskinne Aitto Allidhbh Alline Arbeen Arlone Arsythey Aterearreff Aullin Baineff Bainsk Baravic Baren Barosters Bartanney Baryeolds Baybod Benaheavity Bendraddy Biskey Boagley Boghres Bohea Boisan Boler Boneen Bordin Bossettel Bowatsikir Bowell Bowlind Boylin Braff Braner Brawrallor Brent Breter Brielamiley Briha Brins Briss Brosh Bucher Buinn Buirwatt Burcoudder Caiggar Cailmory Caimerlenn Calbrieum Calty Camott Cangin Canimmill Caola Caratt Carle Carns Carquin Casemple Castigh Catchie Caullim Cavanny Cavit Celly Chanaghy Chiggill Chilly Chombegan Chratchoy Ciastisone Cillin Cilpatt Clacurennon Clainelwon Claoigark Cleney Clint Clockee Cluvan Coasseach Cobon Coddy Coglen Cohumbur Coilly Colack Colaughins Coloe Colteld Comeidh Comey Comhenuay Commoth Connan Cononnihae Coran Cordier Corislo Corpharns Coskibboyeo Cough Cowellikin Coyawnam Cratenes Creacon Creen Crelatt Croiredy Cromatt Croshen Crourentill Crude Culight Cummane Currowedy Curteese Custers Cuther Dacumbs Dalle Dallinzie Danne Darrughawna Dauling Dauskil Dearmac Deennes Deens Dellinketty Dentig Derrasheers Dewadan Dockins Donamh Doreddy Doullinsbye Dounch Dowdystir Dowigan Dowrimlion Drisoney Duffaon Duffe Duffer Dunde Dundiet Dundsonais Dunffron Dunin Dwirtin Earne Eillonachon Emmis Enmic Fardick Farearn Fawserney Feroghri Fings Flakie Flick Fling Forneydels Forvie Frane Frazlendrie Frennond Fuldrude Futhney Gallinn Gallonardy Gannety Garairiney Gardy Geenn Geolassik Geopher Geravin Gerna Gillawrynis Gills Ginglebney Ginniamphy Givilliair Glonaull Goone Graff Gramin Grand Greardi Grenn Gucklee Guffer Guingeaman Gyean Gyoonglan Gyunne Gyunnison Haheteher Hamilin Hamix Hanloyds Harlissa Hauddy Haull Hearle Hegaw Hendmarby Henzie Hercan Herlot Herly Herverson Herwoodan Hilaker Hinstehane Hirkingse Hockendean Honklawlan Horric Hosan Houggan Hueedint Huham Hwems Irkstell Irney Iskee Jacalmack Jameank Jamsins Jeonnaidy Jokey Jolphan Junatheseán Kantony Karvickeeng Kavans Keaddewie Keeng Keennes Keeogary Kehannal Keile Kelisk Kellerona Kenearren Keynam Kilall Kinaddonden Kinam Kinchak Kinearn Kinne Kirewan Koolge Koolgoween Korley Korornon Kyunchrawn Lagair Landeney Landsonney Larodaugh Laroy Larrinie Laulge Laulhooey Laullinzie Lavair Leilley Lingarreen Loneden Lorby Louddy Machey Macmurliand Maday Maeley Maely Magalph Maggs Maghto Magnuth Maharroth Mahartinna Maithey Malinn Mallastrit Manaher Mangeng Mangston Mankhanne Manuthe Maran Margogen Marlionanel Marri Maskee Mastne Matchen Matringe Meard Meartney Meass Meenna Megarman Mehaner Merven Mille Milly Mooday Moodge Moonle Morbuigned Moshan Mucery Mulerney Mulin Munock Murgingo Murlen Murns Murters Nanark Naugharty Nelhill Nellour Nessforney Nieullaugh Nigan Nintierlis Nistrett Nuskey Nuzzia Ormlistirk Pannogan Patrastosey Paulbrie Phrah Physe Pigarmor Pillan Prvin Pullan Purkpoan Purrin Quainne Quean Quiris Raken Rankley Readde Rearree Reerney Remin Resse Ressy Roganam Roghergan Roudie Rumbeone Samone Saunreeddy Scarty Scran Seerr Sepbernan Settonatt Shanely Shavy Shendes Shenmary Shisk Shobess Shonkin Sikley Sinner Sinseye Skelledend Skethiern Skett Skonay Slihanic Sneid Soneehera Sougheen Spley Stanan Stendy Sterry Stillea Stless Stley Stomitter Story Striggarn Sullinahy Sunogavy Surnan Surrogang Takle Tales Tallill Tamiderley Targan Taver Telyn Thagne Thaney Therraly Therstons Tisloy Tonan Tonarint Tonemsanig Tones Tonlen Tonzie Toona Torla Trage Treen Twelly Twentialea Twigh Verlavit Weehig Welaig Welan Wiffickan Williney Wornee Yoodoadivoy Yooll Youghenney
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crys-makes-art · 3 months
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Compilation of sketches with three characters from the CCU: Extended Edition.
All three in one way or the other representing the fact, that taking mortal people and making them into immortal personifications of such exciting concepts as vengeance, ill omens or hope would give them various flavors of trauma and issues.
More specifically we have here Measse - woman of many anger issues, deific equivalent of hitwoman and part-time Morgoth cosplayer, naturally including having negative rizz (but thankfully not trying to convince people that he, in fact, has all the sex available).
Lily - the fascinating root cause of slavaboo elves, little ray of hope and kindness, who makes magic playing gusli and may or may not be terrified of her timeless future erasing her human side.
And Makar, who might need to go and get this constant cold checked at the medical professional, but otherwise is a uniquely unlucky personification of weaponized misfortune and bad omens. He also crochets and was born more or less alongside rotary phones.
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pochaunnuswalker · 1 month
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Broke dumb deaf Ben we a th meass dumb somebitchtry mees
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crysdrawsthings · 2 years
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OK, im tottally curious about Measse. Tell you tell me more about her????
(´・ω・`)?
With great pleasure! So, I am not sure how exactly much you know about Silmarillion and related stuff, so i will try to be non-specific in this post and then expand on exact things later, if you would like it!
In any case, be welcome under the cut for more deets and a short bio! Short disclaimer, is that it is a very heavily AU outlook on Middle-Earth that is set in the Crys Semi-Original Daydreaming Universe.
Also a tag for @lukans to learn about my first Cringe Child.
So, Measse... Is not a Tolkien character of the same name, to clear up this possible confusion, but she does adopts to fill in for this lady, kind of and takes up the name as a sort of job designation. And because every second person was mixing up her actual human name.
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Art is an oldie, but a goodie.
So, in the simplest and shortest possible way Measse is a questionably lucky human, who, by jumping through a series of hoops ascends to be a quasi-deity in an attempt to save her family from an upcoming catastrophe. Also hoops were on fire.
Going into more details: not-yet-Measse was having a very normal day with her friends on a roughly modern Earth.
Following a series of odd accidents they find themselves in a different slice of reality, specifically on the shore of Aman, land of gods (well, not really gods, but like, close enough) in Middle-Earth.
Whoops.
This obviously causes a fair share of confusion from all parties involved. But in the end they are offered lodging and wait for a good moment for locals to yeet them back where they came.
Because locals have the literal End Days to be dealing with, which is not something that happens every other Thursday.
In the end, she is a given an offer. That, as mentioned, involved jumping through far more hoops that anyone would deem reasonable, but not-yet-Measse was a woman of focus, commitment and sheer fucking will (c). She shrugged and accepted to do or die trying.
During their stay in Aman not-yet-Measse and her friends find out that there is a catastrophe that would happen in their world, on Earth and have different reactions to it.
Not-yet-Measse decided to go to the local gods, Valar, and see what it would take for them to take her family to Aman to be forever immortal and happy.
This is objectively such a wild request from a person who ended up in your backyard after accidentally sneaking in after one of your colleagues went to grab a beer, yes.
The gist of an offer was to, pretty much, make it her permanent job to help fix all the stuff that got wrong with Middle-Earth because OG Dark Lord - Melkor (he is also the guy who went to grab the beer from a few paragraphs above) had a temper tantrum and decided to be evil.
Basically, Middle-Earth is going to be reborn alongside the End Days, but someone still needs to clean the stuff up and Valar could have used a hand with both this and keeping Melkor in check.
You may be wondering, how it would be expected from a human whose only distinctive features are having the resting bitch face of the century and loving her family very much.
Well, of course by getting essentially cursed, but as a sole positive thing about it being able to (maybe) utilize a fraction of the power Melkor got in the divine lottery.
List of possible and expected side-effects? Enormous. Includes transforming into eldritch horrors, losing yourself and becoming a mindless puppet, delusions, etc.
And so while her friends were having a relaxing beach filler arc, more or less, not-yet-Measse was trying to discreetly from them figure out how this whole thing works and having her "objective: survive" filler arc, because Melkor was very genuinely trying to off her.
Why would he need a leech sapping on his power AND being there to kick his butt later, after all?
Her main hobby, outside of her "job" is to take care of dragons, obviously. Who doesn't like dragons, after all. Also being a doting older sister for Lily, a second child in the family.
The end result is that not-yet-Measse survives for long enough to get comfortable in utilizing these loaned powers and is reborn into a quasi-deity in a bath of very actual fire.
She takes the name Measse as the world falls apart in the End Days and following it's rebirth is reunited with her family and goes on to have her new life.
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