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#melinoe is so confused and has no context
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Image a spiderman meme moment of Meg and Thanatos(doing reverse hades runs trying to break into the house), Asterius and Theseus(he got bored of being ignored and wanted to find his foe[read second only friend] Zagregus and dragged Asterius along so he wouldn’t die), and Melinoe, who is on a vengeful and important quest, all breaking into the House of Hades at the same time.
Hades is chained up and unnoticed in the background, just watching and begging someone to kill him cause why are these idiots here and who let them in his house.
Zag broke out 3 mins ago and is due back any moment now, being dragged back by grandpa who is done with this feral child who he doesn’t have an official excuse to eat but is getting damn close
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percabeth4life · 2 years
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Hi! I saw your Hades post on how Rick portrayed him and saw you mention that he didn't have children and now I'm just confused. Another blog I follow who also knows her stuff said that one of Hades' epithets was Zeus Khthonios as an explanation that he may be the father of Persephone's children (or at least Melinoe) and there's also this.
I've used this for ages now and other Hellenic blogs have recommended it as well, but if it's not accurate...
Theoi.com is one of my favorite sites, and I use it often. The quotes it has are very accurate, though you could argue against translations used but that’s an individual thing. I personally do recommend against trusting it’s overarching summaries, as they tend to be blends of multiple myths without care for lining them up with their associated beliefs, but in general it’s helpful and can include some fun historical facts! Like this one!
Haides was usually regarded as an infertile god, for a god of the dead should, by his very nature, be incapable of siring children. (Theoi.com)
Even the site itself confirms that Haides is generally viewed as an interfile God. Death cannot beget life. Now, like most things there are those that view it differently, but I’m one who does ascribe to him being an infertile God.
I discussed the individual children of his not being his HERE
Now, this is something some will debate on. Angie (good friend of mine, also HelPol) views Makaria as Haides’ child, but myself and Izzy decided after our analysis of the lines and the context around them that she was only his child in a figurative “child of the Underworld by being a Goddess of the Underworld” fashion. I mention it in the post I linked. 
Now I know I cover Haides being called Father in the post, but to reiterate. Haides is not called Father as the one who has a hand in the children’s birth, but as the Husband of Persephone, and as the King of the Underworld. One who is King, is in their own form the “Father” of those in their Kingdom. It’s notable that Zeus is called Father by even Hestia, as a display of this. So the different Gods of the Underworld would be recognized as Haides’ “children”, not in a literal sense but a figurative one.
Zeus Khthonios specifically to me is something based in the fact that... Haides is the King of the Underworld. He rules it completely, he handles the upkeep and care of it and it’s people. He is the “supreme God” of the Underworld. He is literally the Zeus (who rules Olympus and the Gods) but of the Underworld, and it doesn’t have to do with him having literal children.
I hope this helps clarify things anon!
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