#mimictrap

[idsfantasy]

I'm sorry if you've gotten this kind of info already, but one of the points you used in that video about Burntrap/Glitchtrap being Afton was him saying "I always come back," which you claim is something the Mimic wouldn't know, but it did know that. Fnaf 6 is shown to be a game in universe just like the rest of them.

Glitchtrap is likely a different branch of the Mimic1 code specifically designated for copying William long term.

There's also a line in Special Delivery. Luis says that Vanessa searched up "How to induce compliance in human subjects" which not only implies that what's possessing her isn't human in any way, but it's something that William would never need to do given that he's a master manipulator.

As for the memory plushies, those likely either come from the Mimic giving you the data it got about them from the VR game, or it's Glitchtrap giving you your own memories that you lost to place you in a vulnerable position given that those memories are likely traumatic ones.

We saw how Afton died anyway, his Agony and Remnant was cleansed by the Puppet in Fazbear's Fright's. There would be nothing left to bring him back. The Princess is going after the monster copying the murderer, not the murderer himself.

Also I'm like 90% sure that the devs of Security Breach thought that Burntrap was supposed to be Afton. I recall Baz saying once when he met Scott at the fnaf movie set that there was a miscommunication involving one of the games endings.

Sorry if this is a mess. Just thought all this was worth pointing out. Have a good one.

The video for those interested:

I don't think that Mimic was plugged into Pizzeria Simulator like it theoretically would have been into Help Wanted. It's possible I guess, but I still think it doesn't make sense for it to latch onto that line, or know what William heard in UCN.

When would that designation have been made and by whom? It wouldn't have been for Help Wanted based on Tape Girl's descriptions nor Mr. Burrows's.

Technically there are other things you can try to induce compliance in. A dog or other pet for example. "Human subjects" just specifies the search. Not to mention, it wouldn't necessarily be literally Glitchtrap doing the searching. Vanessa was talking to computers in AR, and we hear her talking to Glitchtrap in the og HW. He manipulated her mind to make her listen to him, but I think that was more Vanessa looking something up in order to do what Glitchtrap asked her to.

The unused lines specifically refer to the memories as belonging to "it", not the player, so I doubt that would be the case, and where in the VR game would it have specifically gotten the data for all 5 MCI kids and Charlie? Why would they be called its memories if they weren't actually Glitchtrap's memories. Who's code remains if the "his code" isn't William's?

If you're referring to William getting dumped in the lake at the end of the Frights epilogues, there are quite a few reasons I think Frights and Stitchline are a separate continuity from the game timeline. Why would the Princess be around to find out about a copycat and care? He's not the one who she's mad at in that case.

I personally recall a misquote/misattribution of some sort that spread around on that topic. I'll need the timestamped video to confirm that preferably, but in any case, I highly doubt Scott didn't even glance at Burntrap's design before release to notice that something was wrong, and as I mentioned in my video, if Steel Wool was trying to correct things and connect the Mimic to Burntrap, they would have at least made the two have more visual connection than a hand that isn't even actually identical and was already reused from a nightmare animatronic.

While I see where you're coming from, I don't think any of those points negate the evidence I have in the video that you didn't address, though the video was long so I understand why you wouldn't bring it all up. Either way though, I personally think it makes a lot more sense from both an evidence, narrative, and storytelling perspective for Burntrap to be William. Totally cool if you believe differently though! I hope you have a good day as well :D

[cardhamine]

POV 4 years after nearly dying in a family fun complex, the kid you adopted wants you to hurry up and open your birthday presents because he got you a co-op game that definitely isn't the one he's been asking for himself the last 3 months

[basslinegrave]

do NOT hand him the vr... he is doing things to the rabbit man again

[kbb306]

Yet another wenclair argument

SPOILERS FOR FNAF RUIN

Enid: I thought you were smarter than that!

Wednesday: Occam's Razor, if it looks like Afton, talks like Afton, and acts like Afton, then it's Afton!

Enid: But all the new stuff says it's the Mimic!

Wednesday: That is exactly the kind of "plot twist" that drove me to write my own novels in the first place!

Enid: FUCK YOU!

[queenofthursday6599-blog]

I am a “Gregory was never involved with Ruin” truther to be completely honest.

He wasn’t the one who sent Cassie the distress call message in the first place. He’s been missing for a while from what the missing posters of him imply and just how destroyed the Pizzaplex is. Considering he almost certainly went missing in whatever shut down the Pizzaplex, and just how thoroughly destroyed and graffitied the building is and how much worse the animatronics have gotten in condition.

And to be perfectly blunt I don’t think it’d be possible for him to be the one contacting Cassie in any of the endings, on the radio or in the elevator.

Radios don’t work underground unless it’s from very short range because rock blocks radio waves. So who ever was talking to her over the radio always had to be pretty close by in order for her walky-talky to be able to receive the signal.

And when “the real Gregory” starts talking the first thing he says is that he’s not in the building, but that message itself is coming from the walky-talky. Basically contradicting itself. That can’t be the real Gregory on the radio if he isn’t close by, because radios have basically no range while underground. Because it also insists that “Gregory” isn’t in the building, and hasn’t been there all night.

Not to mention "Gregory” somehow being able to track where Cassie is and direct her when he’s not in the building. Implying he somehow managed to remotely hack into the Pizzaplex’s systems, in order to get access to the cameras to see where Cassie is.

I 100% think someone other than Gregory dropped the elevator, because it just flat out doesn’t make sense for Gregory to have done it. Or have the ability to do it from outside the Pizzaplex

My current running theory is that this was all planned out by either the Mimic, GlitchTrap, and/or BurnTrap, depending on if they’re connected or flat out the same entity. In order to try and turn Cassie into the new Vanny.

I am just going to treat them all like the same thing, and call them MimicTrap, because even if they aren’t the exact same thing, I still think they’re all rooted in the same goal of being the new William Afton.

You see MimicTrap’s last successful minion, Vanessa, got deprogrammed and freed by Gregory, meaning the eternal work of Afton killing children in Pizza restaurants could no longer continue.

And that’s not something MimicTrap is alright with no matter what exactly the basis and context of his existence is. Afton’s digitized ghost returned from hell by way of Fazbear Ent’s penny pinching, a Mimic program that inadvertently got trained up on Afton’s serial killing ways either by observing Afton directly, or the Mimic getting fed information about Afton’s crimes by Fazbear Ent in order to create Help Wanted.

All of that is irrelevant to what the thing’s goal is: Continue William Afton’s serial killing legacy, which is easiest to do with a human puppet to do so.

Animatronics are big, clunky, obvious, and only permitted to be in specific locations, humans don’t have those kinds of draw backs. Humans blend in with the populous, and roam free without restrictions be they mechanical or by human expectation.

[Animatronics can’t leave their designated pizzerias, that would weird out and alert everyone that something weird was going on.]

Now why would MimicTrap choose Cassie as his new minion/victim? Because she’s the ideal new Vanny.

She’s familiar with FazTech and the Pizzaplex due to her dad working as a technician there, and Cassie herself spending a lot of time there. Cassie was a daycare kid, and had her previous birthday party there.

Cassie is a lonely but loyal child who’s only [human] friend, who MimicTrap has accumulated enough data to convincingly replicate, has gone missing. So MimicTrap has something to lure Cassie deep into the Pizzaplex with, it has leverage.

[Just like the Fruity Maze girl and her dog, he’s using a child’s close attachment to something to lure them away to a secluded location, by pretending to be the child’s friend.]

So she has skills/knowledge that would be useful for MimicTrap’s minion/puppet to have (being able to mess with/manipulate the Animations just like how Vanessa herself could).

MimicTrap also has something that he can use to lure her into position, and leverage against her in order to get himself free. Along with trick her into interfacing with the V.A.N.N.I. mask and get her the ocular implant that ties her directly into the network.

Gregory, or at least the promise of rescuing Gregory. Cassie’s only human friend, who is, as far as she knows, missing.

All that to say, I think MimicTrap faked “the Real Gregory” betraying Cassie at the end of the game, in order to get Cassie to hate Gregory or at least not trust him any more. Meaning that if Cassie ever encountered Gregory again after this, which is pretty likely if he’s still running around with Freddy’s head, Vanessa, and looking into Fazbear stuff, she wouldn’t trust him.

She wouldn’t trust the only person, to have ever gotten one over, on any form of William Afton, and Survived. The one who escaped, the one who took out the corrupted animatronics, the one who freed MimicTrap’s previous minion and shut down it’s hunting grounds for who knows how long.

This combined with Cassie’s attachment to Roxy, who already hates Gregory for taking her eyes and wrecking the Pizzaplex, means she almost certainly wouldn’t believe anything Gregory said or tried to do to help free her in the event of them meeting again.

Which also plays into MimicTrap’s plans, which I think changed when Roxy intervened. Originally I think MimicTrap was just going to go fully Vanny on Cassie and just take over her brain/body the way he did Vanessa by using the V.A.N.N.I. mask. This changed when Roxy tried to fight the endo MimicTrap was inhabiting.

This girl had Roxy’s loyalty, even after she’d shut the animatronic down. And MimicTrap had already altered Roxy (and the other animatronics) programming once, back when he had Vanny under his thrall. Now that he was free and had access to the network once more, and was no longer being stone walled by M.X.E.S. he could do so again.

So what does he do? He ensures she’s trapped in the Pizzaplex with him and Roxy, while also ensuring to poison Cassie’s friendship and bond with Gregory.

Roxy becomes the good guy by being her only remaining friend and “protecting her” from MimicTrap (who’s not trying to attack her anymore), along with affirming her new hatred/dislike of Gregory. MimicTrap starts slyly altering Roxy’s code and Cassie’s perception of reality via the V.A.N.N.I. mask to mold her into his new minion, and Cassie falls even deeper down the rabbit hole.

So yeah those are my thoughts.

[fnafsbheadcanon]

I mean it probably is a disaster, sure MXES keeps the mimictrap contained, but it doesnt just try to prevent cassie from going further using blockades, from the very first encounter I'm pretty sure it's trying to kill her, going a little far, sure by say... the point you get to the underground its too late to send her away, but before you get there MXES could have just grabbed Cassie using an additional animatronic and forced her out. And the michael part could be being overzealous because cassie's wearing the vanni mask. Y'know, the one where previously it indicated someone that was trying to free mimictrap.

Lesson learned: don't put William date in anything.

[cringywhitedragon]

Thoughts on Ruin

So Ruin is out now and it looks really good. Though I’m kinda mixed/confused on certain things.

WARNING: SPOLIERS. DO NOT READ IF YOU DON’T WANT SPOILERS

the big one: M I M I C. The whole Mimictrap thing still up for debate. And I’m more confused then ever… And kinda pissy about it cause I’m not gonna be happy if that does get confirmed (*Loads flamethrower and points it at the endoskeleton abomination.*)

We finally got to see Glamrock Bonnie’s design which is great.

Which ending is Canon? I’ve seen Princess Quest vs Afton Ending and honestly I’m confused.

The elevator ending. Specifically Gregory. I highly doubt he would be the one to drop the elevator since it’s implied heavily that he and Freddy are long gone from the pizzaria. The biggest hint to this being the “Prototype Glamrock Freddy.”. I think it was the Mimic’s doing.

Roxy, that scene was so emotional T-T

The Daycare Attendant. While I’m personally not that big on him/them/it? the whole Eclipse moment made me smile. He’s been balanced out!!

[emeraldmonocle-blog]

me : Phrenpa

Others: lewdmonkeyv2, mimictrap

[idsfantasy]

See, when Mimic showed up in Ruin, I expected that to actually settle the whole Mimictrap thing given it looks and acts so differently from Burntrap, but I guess I should have known to expect otherwise when I opened Twitter lol

[idsfantasy]

Hey can I post a theory here and get criticized without being burned for using the correct pronouns of TOYSNHK?

Basically the theory is what if Andrew [now unfortunately canon] was fighting against Cassidy. The reason why is I swore it said 2 entities fighting for control over William's brain. Cassidy trying to force William into his hell he designed and dragged the souls from heaven to do while Andrew trying to make William stay alive and suffer while being barely alive but not in a coma.

ok so I have to quickly say why I'm using he/him for TOYSNHK 1. Chicas' voiceline "I have seen HIM the one you should not have killed"

2. since its clear mike brooks and novel Cassidy were slammed together to make games Cassidy and Jeremy was put in as filler for the lack of bonnie soul it is a high chance gender also was changed between black hair / brown hair Cassidy and blonde hair Cassidy.

3. Movie Cassidy just being TOYSNHK with lighting.

anyways back onto main theory it would be interesting to see if Cassidy had control over the remnant while Andrew not having full control of the agony let William escape Cassidy while taking over Andrew. Once Cassidy has to figure out what to do now that the souls have left him and their forced prolonged existence to go to the afterlife. Cassidy is left lost and lurks the earth again maybe even haunting a banner in virtual reality.

Andrew on the other hand. He's gone. Once William absorbs him into the agony Andrew is weak and hopeless. Andrew may be partially in control of burntrap but he can't do anything if he tried. William having control of his agony and remnant makes his reach further.

yes I don't support burnic/glitchtrapmimic it doesn't make sense in my eyes with how mimic is characterized nor the fact mimics virtual form is tiger rock so you could say thats a fault to the theory.

I don't think that Andrew is game continuity personally, but I won't get on your case for using male pronouns for the Vengeful Spirit. No matter what spirit it is, the animatronic itself is a guy (which is how I make sense of the FNAF 2 'save him' minigame when Charlie is a girl).

Interesting ideas though, and it's nice to see someone else who doesn't believe Mimictrap XD

[cringywhitedragon]

Ik people in the Fnaf community aren’t gonna like this but I don’t really like the whole Mimictrap theory or really view it as canon even though everyone seems to have jumped on that bandwagon because of the novels

Honestly TftPP has with the recent string of books (espically regarding Tiger Rock and those that came before) and most of the fandom seeming to have jumped on “The Mimic” bandwagon has only left me even more confused and just seemed to have made the lore even more jumbled.

Especially regarding Burn/Glitchtrap.

Personally I don’t really view any of the novels as, de-facto canon to the games due to their rather “bizarre” and goosebumps-like nature at times.

Plus not to mention that there are clues that hint that Glitchtrap/Burntrap might not be the mimic (Princess quest from the mobile version).

While the Mimic is a neat concept in my opinion, I still have a feeling that it’s actually our old purple friend pulling the strings.

Like a little someone else who keeps coming back as a Virus