#miraculous season 2

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Bunch of frames from a Chloé animation I just got finished!

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Hear me out:

Zoe shouldn't exist. They should have given the Bee Miraculous to Rose or Aurore. Perfect patch up. No need for a last-minute self insert character.

It's the bad fanfic writing that gets me guys.

I hear Zoe is finally becoming her own character, tho. Good for her. Good for you, Zoe stans. Just wish she wasn't a last-minute insert made out of spite.

But if you really want Zoe to be a thing...

I wish she was introduced in like the end of season 2 right after Queen Wasp. Cut out that scene where Marinette reunites someone with their toxic family member.

Zoe shows up after Malediktator, giving Chloe more reason to feel unloved, stopping Chloe's kindness in its tracks, leaving her hurt and in pain, her desperation for attention made more clear, highlighting her Descent into Madness.

Zoe could actually genuinely try to connect with her in season 3 because Zoe at least has her own dad in America who raised her right, unlike Andre. Then show us a confused Chloe who rages out and hates Zoe for seemingly taking mom away from her all these years.

Little does she know that Audrey doesn't really care about either of them.

This is how we get Miracle Queen. Chloe actively asking for Hawkmoth to make her "exceptional" for her mom since Ladybug seems to have abandoned her, too. (Marinette notices her being difficult instead of Marinette just being jealous of Kagami like in canon) Audrey, of course, after being de-akumatized, looks the other way.

Then, in season 4, we have Lila manipulate Chloe like in Miraculer, only different. Chloe would be the one Gabriel assigned to look out for Adrien at school while he assigns Lila to "look out for him" during modeling.

Lila manipulates Chloe out of the way, which Gabriel knew Lila would do. Chloe, meanwhile, is losing Adrien in her grief and rage. Sabrina is losing Chloe to the stress of Lila's schemes to get Chloe alone and vulnerable through rumors, which isn't hard because of Chloe's past bullying. (What's that? Believable manipulation?)

But Zoe is still there, and she sees, so Sabrina goes to her. But when they confront her, Chloe sees it as a betrayal. She thinks she's lost Sabrina to Zoe like she lost her mom. So she curses them both. And who does she have left other than Uncle Gabriel.

Chloe has become a proper pawn in Lila and Gabriel's game. A sad, miserable, vindictive little pawn.

A solid tragic character. Chloe the Sympathetic Villain. (Unlike Gabriel, who we all seem to agree is a stupid asshat). Now, what will become of her?

Isn't that so much better?

[toastingpencils37]

So, I'm rewatching Miraculous with my brother, and some time ago we finally started watching Season 2. And honestly, Season 2 is a major increase from Season 1.

But in this post we are not going to talk about animations or visuals (which did also improve somewhat). We're going to talk about writing.

1.) Pacing:

In Season 2, though during quite a few episodes the time it takes for a character to get Akumatized is longer, the episode as a whole, and even the beginning part prior to Akumatization, generally goes by faster than they do in Season 1. In Season 1, episodes at times go by quite slowly, and with the lack of variability in the Season itself, causes the Season itself to also drag.

2.) Episode Plot Variability:

In Season 1, the basic plot is usually that Chloe or Marinette cause something to happen because of something involving Adrien, someone gets Akumatized, Chat Noir and Ladybug stop the Akumatized Villain, and everything just resolves itself. For almost every single episode. But in Season 2, even in just the first few episodes, the plot variability changes. Sure, all the episodes still have the Akumatized villain fight framework, but from there, there are lots of changes. For one, more villains begin to get Akumatized for reasons not involving Chloe or Marinette. And when someone does get Akumatized because of those two, Adrien is less so involved. Two, since this season has more actual plot to it, that influences events in the season, especially in "The Collector".

3.) Series Plot:

This Season actually really starts to draw the viewer into the whole series' plot. Season 1 was basically filler, just to introduce us to characters (which isn't really done well). But due to the cookie cutterness of the episodes and the basic framework of the series, the lack of series plot drives the Season into the ground. Whereas Season 2 actually starts to bring more and more series plot into the picture, which makes episodes with the same basic series framework more interesting, and the season as a whole.

4.) Character Motivations:

This part is mainly talking about Marinette. In Season 1, Marinette's main motivation for almost anything that wasn't Ladybug related was Adrien. Which is especially infuriating in episodes such as Volpina where Marinette also could have other motivations behind her actions. (Such as allowing her to be mean to Lila out of personal offense that she is lying about being friends with Ladybug rather than just being mean to her because she's lying to get with Adrien). But in Season 2, we see Marinette's motivations begin to slowly depart from that. Yes, Adrien still does motivate her to do stuff, but it is not as prominent as it is in Season one. Plus, in the episode where Kagami is introduced, we also see that Marinette's jealousy of someone possibly liking Adrien is less of a massive motivator for her actions. Yes, she is still jealous, but it does not affect her actions as much as seeing Lila or Chloe flirting with Adrien does. (Which may also be because of Kagami's character versus Lila and Chloe's).

5.) Frustration With Episode Plots

In Season 1, we constantly have episodes where Marinette is trying to fix something, whether it is because of a mistake or Chloe. But we always see her go through the most complicated method to do it, Dork Diaries style, instead of just talking to someone about it. Again, in Season 2, we see a decrease in episode plots like this. There are still problems, but the problems are not solved in super complicated ways like this when there are simpler options presented. Plus the problems typically presented are different than the ones in Season 1, partially because either Adrien or Chloe aren't involved in the issue at all.

6.) Character Introductions

Season 1 was basically just repetitive filler with only a small amount of plot points brought up. And though Season 1 was supposed to serve as a way to introduce the viewer to the characters, it honestly takes up too much fluff time, introducing the development of the main characters more so in the first few episodes, and then dedicating random episodes to introduce us to new characters. And even with characters that were introduced, there are quite a few that aren't truly developed in Season 1. But in Season 2, we see the writers actually develop these characters and introduce new characters and develop them, all while also putting pieces of series plot within the episodes. And in the case of Gabriel and Hawkmoth, we begin to actually learn about these characters. And I know they are supposed to be mysterious in Season 1, but especially in the case of Hawkmoth, it is not done well, basically just making him a semi-important character standing at the side who is not interesting to watch.

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Season 2 redraw of the kiss heard around the world! I remember freaking out in this moment. Im pretty sure my jaw dropped. Little did we know what more was in store for us :)

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The fact that the Gorilla's negative emotions just left when he saw Adrien coming up the stairs in Gigantitan, and Gabriel didn't understand why....

[exammole]

Obviously we know that the writers project their problems onto Chloé, and that’s ultimately the reason why she was replaced last minute by Zoé. But both girls are such wasted potential, and if the show was written by competent writers we could’ve had a really good arc for them both. Ig this post will be my unofficial character rewrite post for the both of them.

Link to my og rewrite post

Some of these ideas probably wont stick, especially with the ones with Zoé since a lot of them are in service to other characters. But ig this is my first draft.

I’d keep Chloé roughly the same in Season 1, she and Adrien are still close, her “friendship” with Sabrina and her admiration for Ladybug are still there. But I would probably change the way she bullies Marinette and have it done more secretly, especially after how Soqueline broke her phone last time she did it publicly. (She’s lowkey important now btw) And I’d also make her friendship with Mrs Bustier more important to her character.

There’d be moments in Season 1 that hint at a future one; but her arc would only properly start in Season 2 with the introduction of Audrey. Chloé would begin showing her vulnerable side, wanting to be seen as exceptional by her mother. She would be given the Bee Miraculous like how she gets it in the show, and would ultimately reveal her identity to prove her exceptionalism to her. Marinette would still lend her the Bee due to necessity, but the public identity rule would definitely be enforced with her and others afterwards.

Where I’d change her arc in Season 2, the changes would mostly lie with her views on her mother. She would first seek her approval whenever possible, but I’d have her realise that she would never be enough for Audrey and would stop caring about getting approval from her. I feel she would definitely start seeing Mrs Bustier more like a mother figure than Audrey too but idk. This would be around the same time Lila starts taking her place as a villain.

Season 3 would come the arrival of Zoé because I feel Season 4 is too late. Zoé would move to Paris after Audrey decides to live there permanently; and where Chloé wanted to be more close with Audrey, Zoé would want to be more close with André. In this choice, I’d want to emphasis how bad both the Bourgeois parents are in terms of parenting; and how the two sisters learn from eachother and bond over their shared experience. I imagine at the start they’re relationship is strained.

In this rewrite, I will have Zoé be the permanent Bee holder. But to make up for this. I’d have Chloé be the one to give her the Miraculous instead of Ladybug. And Idk the exact word for this, but I’d also make her almost a supplier/rich supporter(?) where she has her dad make this giant superhero base for the team where they can train, does that make sense? After that, I’d have Chloé properly better her relationships with Sabrina, Marinette, and Soqueline and Alya maybe.

Anything after Season 3, I can’t think of much when it comes to Chloé. Maybe I’d have her in Season 4 develop new relationships with other characters like Luka and Kagami for example. And with Zoé I’d have her slowly start to become more confident in herself and her abilities, kind of like a mirror to S1 Marinette. Zoé might still have a crush on her too, but I’m kinda conflicted on it since I imagine she’d be a protégé to Ladybug in this rewrite. But maybe it could still work idk.

This rewrite would end at Season 5, and I’d have it that the entire team would stop Monarch instead of just Bug Noire. This would include Marinette/Ladybug, Adrien/Cat Noir, Alya/Rena Rouge, Nino/Carapace, Zoé/Honeybee (because I don’t care for Vesperia), Kagami/Ryuko, and Luka/Viperion

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I'd make this a Gabrinette song.

Sorry, Emilie and Nathalie, it's Marinette he loves.

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[muggle-born-princess]

Queen Wasp...

So unpopular and controversial opinion, but I actually consider “Queen Wasp” one of my favorite Miraculous episodes of all time.

The following being:

It was the first to see one of the anti heroes get a miraculous

It was the first to have someone reveal their identity; thus breaking the show’s mold of keeping your identity a secret.

It was the first to learn that even a miraculous holder is capable of being akumatized

It was where we finally learn why said anti hero behaves this certain way as a follow up to the last episode they attempted to redeem themselves.

However, the more I keep thinking of this episode, the more I keep thinking of this minor, yet big flaw it had; but I just can’t put my finger on it. What was it?

Hmm....

OH YEAH! THE ENDING! 

Seriously, the ending to “Queen Wasp” is one of the worst fucking endings the series could ever have! 

I cannot describe how furious and angry it makes me without having to hear what Marinette says to both Chloe and Audrey.

Marinette: “You're also wrong about your daughter not being exceptional. In fact, Chloé is exceptionally mean. She's the worst person I've ever met. She may be more heinous, pompous and selfish than you. Compared to both of you, even a rock seems more capable of love.”

I’m sorry, but 

WHAT THE  FUCK!

Marinette, I love you and all, but how much of a fucking idiot are you?

Okay, look. Marinette cannot be everyone’s hero 24/7; whether as Marinette or even Ladybug. She doesn’t have to right to fix everyone’s problems; big or small. She has her own life too. That is understandable. 

But look at this!

Marinette,

SHE IS LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU!

WHY?! 

BECAUSE SHE IS LOOKING FOR ADVICE FROM YOU!

Keep in mind, this is the same girl who:

Has bullied Marinette for years beyond years

Was racist towards her own uncle

Tries to steal Adrien away from her

Attempts to ruin her life 24/7

And yet, she is still looking at her, mentally telling her what should she say or do in order to make up with her bitchy, selfish, neglectful Karen of a mother!

But nope, Marinette decides to pull a 180 and basically say “Lol, you both suck ass and are worse than the terrorist that brainwashes almost everyone in this city.” 

Oh wait, that’s Thomas Astruc saying that, but you get my point. 

In all seriousness, “Queen Wasp” is a good episode due to the development we get from Chloe, but goddamn the ending can rot in hell for its atrocious, 

[cu-sketcher]

Redraw of Rena Rouge from a drawing I made 2018

[elizabugz]

Remember a time before the other animal miraculouses? Did you all also assign a miraculous to you and all your friends? I was an arctic fox named Blizzard Blitz

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*Not HP related

Does anyone know this god awful show called Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Chat Noir? No? Well good. Because you never never never want to be sucked into a hole of watching this cringe worthy, heart burning show. Trust me, I would know. I’ve been watching this show for almost ten years of my fucking life.

See seasons 1 through 3 are garbage. Basically episodes that are there for plot points and background. Just for you to have the lore of everything and get a ‘feel’ for the side (and main) characters. (Also there a bunch of funny moments in the show, that are awful-in a good way!)

Okay, now you may be asking- Astro wtf is the point of this post if you aren’t going to explain what the show is about. Well, I’m glad you asked-because frankly I’m still trying to figure that out myself (not really). Basically there are two main characters named: Marinette Dupain-Cheng and Adrien Agreste. See now, Adrien and Marinette have alter egos? basically where they are superheroes. They gain these powers from these little floating creatures called Kwamis, which are named Tikki (for Marinette) and Plagg (for Adrien).

Tikki and Plagg were given to Marinette and Adrien from this old man named Master Fu. He was the guardian of the miraculous! Now Miraculous are these pieces of jewelry (each one is different/similar) which hold the different kwamis that possess different abilities/powers. Throughout season one and two, we see that the miraculous are kept with Master Fu, except for the earrings (Ladybug) and the ring (Chat Noir).

The whole show follows Marinette and Adrien around highschool and shows how Marinette has an obsessive crush on Adrien (yes this includes stalking as well). Adrien being the clueless dummy has no idea but only has his eyes set on Ladybug. YES GUYS THERE IS A LOVE SQUARE!! And it goes like this:

Chat Noir loves Ladybug who loves Adrien who loves Ladybug but Marinette loves Adrien.

And the best part? Adrien and Marinette don’t know their identities as Ladybug and Chat Noir to each other! Fantastic!!!

I could go on about this show (I cannot type it well enough to explain it, but honestly if you are in to watch a show about highschool lovers that’s a little cringe and the episodes have plot then a fighting scene and then ending plot, this is right up your alley).

I won’t get into season four and five as those are still new and people are still watching them, but it’s very worth it to want season 5, the newest episode (Protection? I think it was?) it’s actually really good!!

K. Imma go follow a bunch of miraculous accounts and become even more obsessed again!

[2manyfandoms2count]

So Pyjama Girl has been on a date with Adrien Agreste and Chat Noir... You know what we need now? Pyjamadrien on a date with Ladybug