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Shuang Bei Translation (1/?)

I'm watching compilations and translating bits I like.

An Exciting Offer S2 (Eps-8-10): About rosters

Sa Beining: But actually, it's delicate talking about it in that context. Especially if you're the one taking the initiative to ask "Hey, am I in your roster?" What if they don't have you in it? Should they tell you or not?

He Jiong: I think--

Sa Beining: Or else, what if you picked me, *points at He Jiong* but I didn't want to be with you. What do I do?

He Jiong: I think I would tell. I would say, "you are in my roster, but you're not at the top of the list". That's how I'd say it.

Sa Beining: But what if you said to me "you're at the top of my list", and I didn't want to be with you? How should I act?

He Jiong: Oh no, I wouldn't- I wouldn't - wait, what did you say?

Sa Beining: So, for example--

He Jiong: OH. As in you (Sa) are at the top of my list, but you actually don't want to be with me (Sa Beining: Yeah) What's wrong with you?

Sa Beining: *instantly drops his pen, cowering*

He Jiong: What's wrong with you? Does Shuang Bei not deserve recognition?

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(new scene)

He Jiong explaining the scenario: (...) We are organising a wrap-up party and the six people at this table must divide into groups of two to perform at the party. Please split up into groups freely.

--Silence across the table as everyone looks to each other. --

Sa Beining: Well, my roster's very short.

He Jiong: Who's on it?

Sa Beining: Not you.

He Jiong: I'M THE ORGANISER-- Fine. I'm joining as well. The 7 of us will split into 3 groups, each group has two people and one person is left behind. *eyes Sa Beining pointedly*

Sa Beining: ;;;;;;

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mxdzt s1 thoughts

shuang bei!!

obviously i already liked them from s6 but seeing them in s1 has only cemented it. even sa laoshi doing everything he can to sail the sa/ou ship has nothing on shuang bei. like. not only are they out here casually sharing a braincell but also the high fiving? the hugging? so great. especially since you don’t usually get to see people being that physically comfortable around each other on chinese tv

culprit he laoshi is absolutely, calmly terrifying. i love it

poor baibai oh my god. sa beining leave the poor boy alone what did he do to you??

on a related note, while all the cast changed to various extents over the years, the sheer difference between s1!bai and s6!bai hahahaha (arguably even the start vs end of s1 was hilarious)

while i did miss the overly elaborate sets of s6, the outfits of s1 were?? surprisingly already pretty good??? especially he laoshi and wang ou

personal highlight eps: pilot and 1998 case (mainly for he and sa laoshi respectively), hospital case (most galaxy brained ep in s1 imo), football case (for the hilarity of everyone apparently being actually drunk), titanic case (vaguely unhinged fun and also pretty galaxy brained)

prop eating, an ancient and noble tradition going strong since the very start

and finally, another thing s1 confirmed for me: da laoshi is permanently That Feral

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epiphenomenal replied to your post “明星大侦探 WILL RETURN ON OCTOBER 19!!!”

sorry for randomly commenting (and following; i'm just so glad to see mxdzt content on tumblr), but may i ask -- where is the oct19 date from?? i didn't see any news on the official weibo .-. thanks and sorry again m(_ _)m

I found the date here. I’m usually skeptical about news like this, but 小盒子 (明侦’s PD) recently confirmed that the show would be returning in October with the original cast (link), so I think it’s safe to assume that it’s true.

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S6E1 highlight

During the 1st round of Group Discussions, Liu Haoran finishes explaining the evidence he’s gathered.

Detective Sa Beining: Who do you suspect?

Liu Haoran: No one. I don’t think there’s much evidence pointing towards anyone in particular at the moment.

Sa Beining: *nods* I’ve seen that the audience calculated the stats once... In the past 5 seasons, those who’ve said they suspect no one during the 1st round of discussions have 67.8% chance of being the real murderer in the end.

Liu Haoran: Then have you seen that in the past 5 seasons...I haven’t played the murderer even once?

Xiao Bai (turning to Sa Beining): It’s about time.

Sa Beining (to Xiao Bai): It’s about time.

Xiao Bai: I said it too before, didn’t I--

Sa Beining (to Xiao Bai): --that the one you suspect is me.

He Jiong, losing it: YOU’RE THE DETECTIVE. YOU’RE TODAY’S DETECTIVE. PLEASE SOBER UP A BIT!

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Xiao Pu got promoted

He Jiong: You're reading this (the detective's notebook) from the beginning again -- is it so that they can edit this scene into a whole episode?

Xiao Pu: Can they?

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oof somehow emotional about a season i havent even watched ;~; what the heck

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Hello! I've never watched any of 明星大侦探 before, but I miss 何老师 enough (and also I'm really in the mood for some escapism reality TV). Any suggestions on which season I should start with?

Yeeessssss!!! Im always so happy when Im asked about MXDZT!! I love this whacky genius of a show <3 and oh man, He laoshi is SUCH a delight in it.

My recs change depending on whether you need subs, but I’m assuming you don’t, given the “何老师” 😁

In both cases my first rec would be starting with S5 Episode 1 & 2. It’s an amazingly loveable cast for a great concept, and absolutely brilliant plot for S5E2 especially. (It’s one big story in 2 eps)

I know a lot of recs tend to put S1 first, and it’s true many inside jokes and iconic verses originated from S1 before being built on afterwards. But S1 was also back when it was still a simple murder-solving show, and they didnt explore themes in-depth yet. The cast was still figuring their dynamics out, too.

So I propose S5E1-S5E2 first to get a taste of what the show became, including how the main cast’s dynamics are, and the kind of wild wild plot and hilarity you can expect. Then I suggest starting with selected eps of S1 again to see the evolution of the cast dynamics and where a lot of the running gags came from.

In particular, S1E2-S1E3 are pretty important for the NZND verse, which comes back (and is delightful) every season since then ^^ and for the airplane murder (there are many airplane murders). There is also S1E7 (reply to 1998, iconic for Sa), and S1E8 (the ‘beauty is to blame’ verse is also a big running gag)

Other eps I love:

S2E7-S2E8: Nursery Rhyme of Horror

S2E12: Murder of The Who’s The Murderer? Producer

S3E1-S3E2: Rose Hotel

S3E3: Dark Fairytale

S3E8: WorryFree Guest House

S3E11-S3E12: Paradise Island eps

S4E3: Time Travel Bookstore

S5E5: MGQ Magazine

S5E10: Detective Chinatown

Every NZND ep (S1E3, S2E5, S3E5, S4E4, S5E6, S6E10)

I am a bit biased in that S6 is my favorite season. I loved every single ep in it, but had an especially good time w S6E1-S6E2, S6E10, S6E5, S6E6, S6E9 (OH BOY S6E9) and S6E12.

Friendly note that even if a running gag originated in a previous season, it is still hilarious no matter when you first run into it. The show is very good at enabling viewers to see things out of order.

If you fall in love with the cast dynamics and the dynamics between He Jiong and Sa Beining (main hosts in S1-S6), like me, you might have a hard time continuing past S6 because Sa Beining had to quit the show (new cctv rules i hear). But S7 as a whole is an ode to Sa Beining, and it culminates with S7E11, which wraps up Sa laoshi’s story and made me very emotional.

Hope this helps and hope you enjoy this show!! ❤️

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FMV Bookmarks

Making a personal masterpost of fave MXDZT fmvs organised by category, because the lists in my drafts are getting too scattered and messy.

All links refer to the original

Shuang Bei | 双北 (He Sa)

望

What Can I Do to Keep You Here | 我用什么把你留住

Renai Saiban

Qian Qian Wan Wan | 千千万万

A Little Sweet | 有点甜

Ordinary Happiness | 有你的小确幸

Rang Jiu | 让酒

SMILE

Bai Sa | 白撒

Under Mount Fuji | 富士山下

Small Friend | 小朋友

99times, I love him | 99次我爱他

He doesn't understand | 他不懂 (NZND verse)

S1-S5: Suspecting Xiao Bai

Give you, Give Me | 给你给我

Rong He | 蓉何

Next to you | 在你的身边 (He Hehe x Rong Tianzhen)

Group Spirit or Multiship | 明侦群像

Passing Through The World | 路过人间 (ode to S1-S7)

Da Xiao Jiang Hu | 大笑江湖 (group spirit & fun)

Empty Your Glass | 干杯 (group spirit focused on the original six)

King of Love Songs | 情歌王 (56 CPs from 7 seasons)

Laugh About Nothing | 穷开心 (group spirit & fun)

You'll Always Be Here - S8 Cast Song | 永远都会在 (S8 spirit - ouch)

Fake Love (Heiheihei Agency-centric; S8E5 往日回响)

Target Person (Hao Ran x Zhang Sirui aka Bai Jingting x Wei Chen)

Key Word | 关键词

I Feel Like I've Met You Somewhere Before | 我好像在哪见过你

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MXDZT: S3E1-S3E2 (locked room trick translation)

(Xiao Bai figures out the trick to create a locked room from outside and helps to recreate it. The cast manages to replicate the scene perfectly.)

He Jiong: That’s it, we can’t open it anymore. It’s a locked room! Perfect. Perfect, Xiao Bai.

Sa Beining (opening the door again): So now, since Xiao Bai has figured out this trick...

Xiao Bai: Oh no He’s going to vote for me as murderer again

Sa Beining:...he has 50% chance of being the murderer.

He Jiong (laughing while Xiao Bai throws himself on the bed): Each time, Xiao Bai.......

Sa Beining: I’m just saying you have a 50% chance of being the murderer!

Xiao Bai: EACH TIME we have a locked room mystery it’s like this!! I figure it out and then I’m the murderer!?

Sa Beining: Because there were a few times where you did figure it out and it was really you!!

Xiao Bai: ?!! When??

Sa Beining: There were a few times.

Xiao Bai: No-?

Sa Beining: The time with the fishing line.

Xiao Bai: Fishing line-? The time with the fishing line, I WASN’T the murderer, i was just wrongly accused to death.

Sa Beining: ..........then, the second time with the fishing line.

Xiao Bai: *staring at him blankly*  (Sa Beining, chuckling: You used a fishing line many times....)

Xiao Bai sighs deeply and leaves.

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hello anon here who you gave a bunch of recs to and I watched piano on the sea… SCREAMING!!!!!!! It was incredible

Unfortunately I do half need eng subs since I only learned up to intermediate mandarin in highschool / college. And uh. Native speaker comprehension is still a bit hard for me!! thank you for being so considerate and providing so many options

I mostly came here to thank you but I saw ur most recent post and im curious about 开始推理吧 . Because. I love escape rooms… and murder mysteries…

Whoa i realise i received this a while back now, and i completely forgot to reply, sorry.

But the truth is, I also don't know much about 开始推理吧, to be very honest. I watched 1 ep so I know it's a murder-mystery + escape room, and I hear it's good, but cast chemistry is also huge for me, and the stars casted in 开始推理吧 were 1) new to each other and 2) on average, a bit more mainstream/younger/closer to idols than the ones in MXDZT S1. Notably, the cast lacks a veteran MC. It takes time for casts like that to develop chemistry and I didn't have the patience to wait.

The roles that Sa Beining and He Jiong have/had in MXDZT really cannot be underestimated. They're seamlessly and discreetly organising a LOT of the flow even while looking like they're just fooling around.

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Ships of MXDZT S8 nominated for Best Ship

--as were nominated by the cast themselves (and my own personal ratings underneath, after watching the whole season):

Little Fairy Fish / Brother Conch / Little Brother Squid OT3 in S8E10: Legends of the Blue Sea (aka Liu Haoran x Wei Chen x Zhang Ruoyun)

---- 10/10 hilarious. queer. lots of fucking with gender. kept super fun and a delightful mess

Assistant Ou / Chen Zhuqi in S8E10: Legends of the Blue Sea (aka Wang Ou x Wei Chen)

--- 6/10 typical mermaid x human angsty love story. nothing that stands out particularly

Simple Man / Zhang Luo in S8E7: Black Gold Heist (aka Wei Daxun x Zhang Ruoyun)

----- 8/10 naive man x the guy who initially swindled him, but eventually developed feelings. storyline was a bit underutilized in the ep, but there's huge potential there

Psychiatric Ward OT3 in S8E4: Leap Over the Insane's Wish (aka Wei Daxun x Zhang Ruoyun x Da Zhangwei)

------ 9/10 criminally underused in the episode itself. wholesome. warmst. found family. i love. Small correction that my own otp for this ep is the found family OT4 with the psychiatric ward trio AND with Waste Collector He. A family can be three psychiatric ward patients and their waste collector dad who teaches them how to make clay figures. thank u

Zhang Xinghai / Xin He in S8E3: Leaving the Planet's Surface (aka Zhang Ruoyun x Wu Xin)

------- 9/10. I ship. super cute and funny. best mxf ship of the season. high IQ duo who dont know how to murder. they flirt in maths and space shenanigans

He Tianxia / Zhang Dujun / Ou Fei OT3 in S8E6: Mang City's Wind Rises Again (aka He Jiong x Zhang Ruoyun x Wang Ou)

---- 7/10. downgraded because of my personal pet peeves with republican era plots and because Ou's role in the OT3 was quite underutilised in comparison? but holy hell, Zhang Dujun delivered. that was gay. I'd rate Zhang Dujun / He Tianxia 9/10

Rong Momo / Da Zuiba in S8E8: Ghost Tales in MangZhou (aka Yang Rong x Da Zhangwei)

----4/10. personally i do not ship. but given all the body-switching and ensuing gender-switching that occurred, idk whether this ship is still that ship at all

He Hehe / Zhang Gongzi in S8E5: Echoes of the Past (aka He Jiong x Zhang Ruoyun)

---- 10/10. I'm still crying about it.

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--- and my other ships that were not nominated but that I ship a lot: He Hehe x Rong Tianzhen; He Hehe x Pu Lie, Liu Cuimian x Zhang Luo (THEY DAD TOGETHER), Ou Ba x Rong Momo

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Some scattered thoughts on MXDZT S8

I didn't expect myself to want to watch it at all. Watching bits of S7 left me feeling very bittersweet, with Sa Beining's absence like a gap that can't be filled, so I didn't even imagine wanting to start S8.

I technically only watched half of S8 so far (E1, E2, E5, E10-12), and I watched it slightly out-of-order, but what I have seen already makes me want to watch at least S8E4, S8E7 and S8E8 too.

I didn't expect myself to enjoy it THIS much.

--Spoilers ahead! --

I just finished S8E12 and these are the main points that left a strong impression on me.

1. Continuity

We've had recurrent verses (like NZND) and characters or elements (like the "Zhen Piao Liang" plastic surgery hospital), in previous seasons, but this level of continuity within a season was completely new and riveting to watch.

It was so cool to start with a regular MXDZT case, to be introduced to a young detective (He Hehe) in ep 1, only to realise that he comes back later in the season, that his story is developed, that what he lived in eps 1-2 influences his life and decisions, that the plot of the first eps are pivotal to the finale. Similarly, seeing the looming shadow of the TianDing Group in S8E5 and other eps, before seeing what it became in eps 11-12, was an extremely exciting build-up and pay-off. I wanted the threads to connect and was so satisfied when they did. We've never had this kind of massive plot developed in MXDZT before.

Even S7E11 which made big call-backs to previous seasons and characters, and wrapped up the season with Sa Beining as a connecting thread, did not link the stories of each ep in the same way that S8 does with He Hehe's story.

2. Story-telling

Which brings me to the 2nd point: I feel like S8 placed a greater focus on story-telling than before. On the one hand, it sometimes felt like the evidence was too easy. There were a lot of pictures, for one, or diaries which happen to have all the right notes; the variety was a bit lacking and it felt less like a game played by the cast, and more like a story that they have to bring to life, at times.

On the other hand, it really did bring the stories to life in a very immersive manner. The fact that He Hehe and Zhang Luo did not have a voting choice in S8E12, for example, was definitely more about telling their story than about winning a murder mystery game. But ouch, it sure made me feel for He Hehe. It made me feel for all the characters who had to choose between them two.

3.Themes covered

I had a lot of expectations towards the Timeline A and Timeline B problem that S8E5 had introduced. For He Hehe, Timeline A appears as a rosier world, where Sa Mingdeng is a recurrent character and the members of his agency truly cared for each other. Timeline B is the "factual" world where Sa does not exist and his entire agency got annihilated by the TianDing Group.

But for Rong Tianzhen, it's the opposite: Timeline A is the one where she was abused all her childhood only to commit suicide in M213. Timeline B is the one where she finds her father again. For Liu Cuimian, both timelines have their good and bad. His partner Zhang Luo with whom he co-parented TianTian never died in Timeline B, but at the same time, they've never shared those 10 years of history that they had in Timeline A.

Only in S8E12 are we told that both are real, just that Timeline A was a deviation, and Timeline B is the one that leads to what is basically a dystopia where everything is controlled by Big Data. (ha. the irony) Meanwhile, going back to Timeline A means possibilities to change the past and towards a different future, which could be as good as it is bad.

The show frames the timelines very heavily in favour of Timeline A, using the words "freedom, courage and truth" to describe it. He Hehe, who is tasked to defend Timeline A, also calls it "sentiment and romance". But the show also clearly frames it as individuality and agency, as shouldering personal choices and their possibly very negative consequences. It frames Timeline B as the loss of individual agency, with happiness under B as "captive" happiness. It's a framing that I find very brave of a show in its context and environment.

In the end, Timeline A does not win, due to a wide range of odds. Regardless, the framing of the show was already so heavily in favor of A that I can't help but be emotional about it. And in the end, even Zhang Ruoyun, who has to play devil's advocate for Timeline B, argues that "Timeline B does not mean impossibility to change, there is perhaps a way to change the future from the present towards the future", which plays a role into the final votes. The fact that even the guy tasked to defend B has to argue for changing the outcome of B says a lot about the framing. I enjoyed this theme a lot and did not expect it from MXDZT.

4. Sa Beining's Absence

I was also pleasantly surprised with how they've dealt with Sa Beining's absence in S8. S7 was already very nice. But if S7 was an ode to his importance for the show and an acknowledgment that his absence is heavily felt, S8 felt like a respectful new start.

In what I've seen of S7, watching He Jiong felt at times like he was trying to cover both his previous role and Sa Beining's role, which was almost jarring at times. In S8, the cast seems to have found a new balance, in which He Jiong can really just go back to his own style of hosting, with perhaps just an increased level of sass, deviousness and pettiness (affectionate). Similarly, if others were still dancing around the fact that Sa Beining is no longer there in S7, the cast in S8 feels much more comfortable in this respect, where the use of Sa Mingdeng as a character doesn't prickle anymore, but is more of a element of warmth and amusement.

I have also read that the crew itself changed since S6 (S7 had a lot of difficulties airing). S8 certainly felt like they found a better balance and style of their own when it comes to the editing.

5. Challenging new game formats

S8E2 left a strong impression on me. The game format changes completely in Part II of the ep, with the cast basically dividing into two groups and enter a sort of game of Werewolf (it's probably another game, but I don't know it).

On the one hand, that totally did cut the story-telling for me. It took me a few minutes to adjust, and I still think it was a bit disruptive, with the character of the Butler (which is more of a game master than a proper character), not being developed enough to fit in. But holy shit, I have to admit the game was spectacular (thank you Xiao Pu) and I definitely want to rewatch it.

S8E12 also had a completely different format from what we're used to. The ending votes, in fact, were not even about finding a murderer.

So all in all, this season definitely tried to challenge new ways of playing the game. I still think there's room for improvement on the transitions between the murder-mystery we know and the new elements they want to try, but overall, it worked on me.

I enjoy MXDZT for the detective work, but also a huge lot for the stories told and the cast dynamics. I think this season didn't lose its detectives' heart overall, and still gave me a lot of positive surprises regarding the stories told and the cast. I am looking forward to S9 again. For one, I think there are still ways to build on the plot of S8, especially considering the ending that won, and that includes ways to explore Sa Mingdeng's provenance and why he is interacting with the world the way he is.

Still hoping that they can release the Sa himself for one of the later seasons... but if they cannot, at least I'll still be curious about what S9 looks like.

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i'm watching the mxdzt s6 收官 and sa laoshi being basically the only one actually eating while he laoshi and the rest were seriously discussing the episodes HAHAHA

YOURE WATCHING MXDZT S6 !!!!!!! THE SEASON WAS SO GOOD

Sa beining and Xiao Bai are sharing a brain now because I remember Xiao Bai also being like noooo are we gonna stop eatinnnnggg when they announced that there was a game so

S6 is the season in which Xiao Bai and Sa Beining finally reconcile

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S6E12 is funny.....

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Personal Top 5 Episodes of S6 Who’s the Murderer?

I have finally managed to do a ranking of favorite eps in S6 of MXDZT. It’s the 1st season that I followed as it aired, so perhaps that influenced how I feel, but honestly I loved the entire season. Still, I definitely liked some eps more than others, so without further ado:

5. S6E6: The Mysterious Tribe

I honestly had many doubts about this premise, but it turned out to be imaginative, out-of-the-box, subversive, thought-provoking and fun. Detectives are Sa Beining and Li Jin Ye (from an Exciting Offer2). Suspects: He Jiong, Wei Daxun, Jin Jing, Wei Chen and Wu Xin. Premise: A prehistoric, matriarchal tribe struck by famine gets visited by two men from a neighboring tribe. Murder ensues.

In the beginning, you’re not too sure how this thing is gonna go, and then as the story progresses, everything gets better and better, but also wilder and wilder. Half-way through the case, you think the production team’s either high or a genius, or both. 9/10.

4. S6E5: “Forgetting Concerns” Grocery Store

This ep’s not as hilarious as some others, but it more than makes up for it in emotion and depth. Wei Chen is Detective, along with He Yunchen (from an Exciting Offer1). Suspects: Sa Beining, He Jiong, Da Zhangwei, Wu Xin, Zhang Xincheng. Premise: The village of “Forgetting Concerns” is known for its hot springs and a mysterious letter box, which will respond with solutions to any of your worries. The owner of a hotel in the village comes back for a visit. Murder ensues.

This ep dealt with depression and suicide (trigger warnings). It is warm, emotional, original and still has its own moments of hilarity and laughter in spite of it all. Great case and great cast. 9/10.

3. S6E9: It’s still ‘Beauty is to Blame’

A super complex case made of smart plot points, great theme and a dash of crack. Detective Qi Wei, and Pu Yixing (aka Xiao Pu, aka MVPPP). Suspects: He Jiong, Sa Beining, Yang Rong, Wei Chen, Wei Daxun, and Qi Wei. Premise: A detective goes to investigate a famous clinic for plastic surgery, and finds a dissolved corpse in a tank, along with the fact that the clinic is waaaay dodgier than first expected.

Most complex case of the whole season, almost too complex, but it gets saved by how riveting it is and by the cast chemistry, which makes for endless hilarity. The ep explores society’s obsession with beauty. I give it 9.4/10, because I loved it thoroughly, but wouldn’t watch it on a day where I'm tired.

2. S6E10: NZND “Ding Niu” Concert

Of course the NZND episode has to make the ranking...of course it has to. Each time NZND makes a comeback, it’s pure crack, and this is genuinely my favorite NZND of all... Wu Xin is Detective with He Yunchen. Suspects: He Jiong, Sa Beining, Bai Jingting, Zhang Xincheng, Da Zhangwei. Premise: former top boyband NZND makes a comeback concert to select their next generation boyband, and of course, murder ensues.

Some incredible plot twists, stellar jokes and a story that somehow makes perfect sense despite being concentrated crack. Shuang Bei and Bai Sa are out to kill. Amazing ep. 12/10. 

Finally:

1. S6E1: Midnight Hotel, Part I

I actually want to rate this ep. 20/10 because I just love it so much and I think I’ve watched it at least 3 times in full already... This is the only set of episodes in S6 filmed outside the studio and on location, and they rly outdid themselves on the set (not only aesthetically. srsly). Detectives are Sa Beining and Pu Yixing. Suspects: He Jiong, Bai Jingting, Yang Rong, Liu Haoran and Zhang Ruoyun. 

Premise: A private detective goes to stay the night in a remote grand hotel with his grandson and his grandson’s disciple. In this mysterious hotel that goes on curfew and lockdown at midnight because of strange sounds in the night, murder ensues. 

I cannot stress how much I love this ep. Other than the cast’s incredible chemistry and the set, the plot and its delivery are also brilliant. On-location cases like S6E1-S6E2 are great because it’s always 1 ep to solve a first murder, and then the 2nd ep to solve the mystery behind the place. S6E2 is heavy and needs multiple trigger warnings. S6E1 is lighter and a blast. It’s a cast of old players who push each others’ buttons, delving in a plot that allows them to do just that. Also, this ep will make anyone love the Sa-Pu master&disciple combo, and the ending of the ep should be immortalised. So: best case, best cast. 20/10 I love it to the moon and back.