#neg ig

[dreamteamemojis]

likeeee sorry but if you're gonna talk shit publicly then you need to apologize publicly. idc about ~behind the scenes~ shit as a viewer like if youre friends again cause you apologized privately and they accepted it that's your business. but from my perspective you threw your friends/ people who had been good to you under the bus to please a bunch of strangers on the internet and then ran back when you assumed the coast was clear. like your entire personality and content just feels fake af and performative to me now and if I hear your voice I'm tapping out like peace and love but y'all can stay blocked

[georgecunt]

i love tommy so much actually, he's an incredible content creator and he's so passionate about what he creates, and i hate that his so called community doesn't really watch his content or care about him for anything else than having their "good kid" streamer and giving them ds.mp drama

[onionninjasstuff]

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[hishighnesstheprincess]

Guys I'm gonna be so fucking fr with you if this turns out to be real I'm fully giving up on these movies

[hoofpeet]

The fact that I only ever draw people hanging out with friends in warm sunny places while being miserable and bitter 24/7 does make me wonder if horror/gore artists are like the happiest most well-adjusted people out there. Junji Ito style

[elfolfenburg]

Two cringey idiot boyfriends

Also decided to redesign yuichi's outfits just for fun n stuff bros

Also hc they met thru like dimension shit somewhat like from the tmntt in the 2003 bros

[trans-buckleyy]

the way some people dont realise that the ‘invisible string theory’ is mostly a joke is so fucking funny. talking about ‘media literacy’ when you can’t even read a joke :/

[art-o-gant]

baby i was born an effigy!

+ i taped them shittily to my closet

[thefishdeath]

Ohhhh negative space I love negative space (I got side tracked while doing the line art)

[dreamteamemojis]

I wonder how it feels for these "CC's" to know that every single one of their most liked tweets or viewed streams is when they have Dteams names in their mouths. like genuinely is it distressing to realize that not a single one of their own personal projects that they probably care a lot about don't get even a fraction of the attention that just mentioning Dreams name does. I hope it eats at them knowing the only time people give a shit about what they're doing is when it's literally about someone else.

you can't build a community for yourself around the hatred for others I hope they'll get that through their thick fucking skills one of these days and focus developing a watchable personality.

[ink-the-artist]

why even engage with a terf, even jokingly, sarcastically, or to dunk on them? its just giving them a reaction and attention, thats all they want. i would say to block and report but reporting wont do shit, but still, why not just block and move on?

cuz its funny

[apollos-boyfriend]

the thing i’ve come to realize having been in this space for roughly 13 years now is i can never leave. it’s just one of those inevitabilities. you can take the minecraft server from the kid but not the kid from the minecraft server or whatever

[fancyfade]

i would be fascinated to see a future writer try to salvage batman and robin 2023 damian characterization (where he seems a lot more meek and generally insecure) as part of a mental health breakdown due to you know, alfred dying, being possessed by nezha, etc....while this writer is doing some soft retcons they can also actually retcon out some teen titans 2016 stuff instead of doing what williamson is doing which is pretending it was in character and just changing the motive

and then post some confidence regaining we have a restoration to actual Damian (pre Adam Glass's character assassination Damian characterization) that includes his strong morals and his confidence and prickly exterior (while still being in control) that rubs people the wrong way...

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[lilies-n-slander]

Hazbin Hotel would be so much more interesting if charlie’s naïveté and surface-level kindness were treated as the actual flaws they are and didn’t work. Heads up, this kinda just turned into a text wall of charlie neg and ranting so don’t read if you don’t want to see that.

How she currently is, she just doesn’t make that much sense in the setting. I’ve seen ppl say that charlie is a fresh take and contrasts the edginess, but I just don’t see how she is possible. You’re telling me she’s been in hell for 200 yrs but still has this childish and naive personality, is still disgusted by the sinners being cannibalistic, violent, and even just horny, and is so detached from those she calls “her people”? She was born in hell, shouldn’t that make her more used to the sinners’ depravity and not less? She doesn’t seem to have a good grasp on what the sinners want or how they behave. It would make more sense if the show leaned into the toxic positivity white savior nepo baby angle (or rather, actually portrayed it as a *bad* thing) and rather than naïveté, her ignorance was out of self-centeredness and/or lack of true empathy for the other sinners. She would be more interesting as a character too imo.

She looks down on the other sinners (and honestly so does the show?? When she’s showing lucifer around and introduces him to her friends, they’re framed as unappealing as a joke… these are the characters the audience is also supposed to care about.. and many of the bg chars, such as the cannibal town residents, are portrayed as simple-minded brutes), there’s a lot of condescending “….ooookay” type of lines and she constantly has to think of nice ways to frame the clearly negative things she thinks about others. So why does she want to save them so much? The more reasonable explanation is a sense of white savior-ness than actually caring about them.

She’s eager to excuse whatever sir pentious did (which I’m assuming she doesn’t know?) and let him in, despite how he makes the other residents (including her own gf!) uncomfortable. And yes I say excuse, because she never inquires about his past sins or discussed him repenting. It seems to start with sorry, but also end with sorry too. This could’ve been made interesting if she simultaneously looked down on but also excused all sorts of heinous acts. Like val is the most openly manipulative and scummy character, he licks her arm, and yet she’s still apologetic about ruining things (Side note, if she’s genuinely apologetic, then she’s actually an idiot because why is she talking to the boom-mic employee *while they’re filming???*).

She doesn’t know what she’s doing and has no concrete plan but gets incredulous at ppl who don’t blindly trust her. Angel has to leave in ep 4 and she gets SO frustrated over it, like you seriously expect everyone to drop all of their other commitments for you? She has her webster definition notecards for the meeting with heaven and has to improvise and rely on angel being good at the club but she gets mad that lucifer isn’t 100% behind her plan?

Also, trust falls? Really? Then she goes “why isn’t this working? We’ve tried everything!” But on that note, the actual episode portrayal is kinda exactly what I’m going for. Not only do the trust falls not work, charlie says, “I love all of you so much,” pulls her puppy eyes, and only vaggie catches her. It’s surface level and shallow, and does not win anyone else over.

In contrast, vaggie’s attempt at building trust, throwing everyone into a battle, *actually works* (despite vaggie only being in hell for 3 years and being heaven-born, she already knows how things work better than charlie!) and yet charlie talks about it as though it already failed. She says “we work best as a team,” with the underlying message being “I can’t trust you to do things on your own.”

If she was waiting so long to reconnect with lucifer, then why hasn’t she called him in years?? Altho I’m currently rotating lucifer in my brain so I might be a bit biased

“If angels can do whatever and stay in the sky” they can’t?? Your dad is RIGHT there. I. What

She has a power dynamic with every other character except lucifer since she has her demon powers, not to mention she’s giving them a place to stay. When vaggie says she appreciates that charlie doesn’t use her powers, charlie doesn’t say “it wouldn’t be right,” she says it would be too *mean.* But if someone pushes her buttons, who’s to say they wouldn’t slip out (see her flip on a dime after val hits angel. Obv it’s justified in this case, but it shows that she’s willing to use her powers on sinners)? Again, it would be interesting if the show actually leaned into this angle. Imagine if she put on a nice front, never swore, seemed genuinely touching and understanding, but the second someone annoys her she annihilates them and becomes threatening and violent. Then she turns around and is nice again. Too much like alastor? idk

Also, many characters refer to her by calling her lucifer’s daughter, so clearly ppl know that if they cross her they’ll face his wrath by proxy (this also fits in thematically with what lute tells her in the first episode, that she’s exempt from the exterminations bc nepotism privilege). So realistically, everyone else would be a bunch of sucking-up yes-men bc they’re afraid of her. Which they kind of are when push comes to shove?

At first, she doesn’t help at all during the war and lets everyone else fight for her. Doesn’t want to get her hands dirty ig, even though all of this was caused by her in the first place. She only starts fighting at vaggie’s urging.

Like husk points out, every meeting charlie has with the angels makes things worse for all the sinners. Despite lucifer’s warnings that the meeting with heaven won’t work, and against vaggie saying to calm down, charlie basically picks a fight with heaven at the risk of *everyone else EXCEPT HER.*

What were charlie and lilith doing to stop the exterminations before lilith took her 7 year leave? Hell, what was charlie doing during those 7 years? Why does she have 0 connections outside of vaggie, who she only met 3 yrs ago? Why does she have to introduce herself to rosie, rather than her already knowing her name?

Also in ep 7 she says to alastor “I can’t believe how you can do exactly what you told me you would do!” (standing by and watching everyone fail at redemption) almost like she wasn’t paying attention to him at all.

“Why would vaggie hide that she was an exterminator” -> Rosie asks “how did that make you feel?” “It made me mad and doubt if she loves me” like I get it, it was a betrayal, but IS she stupid

Ready For This is charlie manipulating a town of ppl to join the army. Her pitch includes “on the way to the hotel the scenery is nice and you can make friends :3” and “have you ever wanted to die for a cause? Notably I myself am spared from being killed but uh that’s your problem.” Alastor pipes in that you can eat the angels and that’s what actually moves the crowd, because he understands them.

Her perspective on violence and where she chooses to draw the line is really confusing. Why does she care about sinners being violent to each other if they’ll just respawn? She stops alastor from beating up sir pentious at an arbitrary point, but is fine with him eating and presumably killing the gangsters who come after mimzy. (Edit: forgot to point out yet another example, that she was fine with vaggie tossing sir pentious and angel off the balcony but stops her from tossing niffty as well for no reason.) Why is she so apologetic to the angels actively killing sinners but was distraught over vaggie having partaken? Why was she opposed to the CANNIBALS being eager to eat the angels and saying “idk, they seem kinda murder-y” WHAT. What? I’m struggling to even begin to describe how ignorant that is during a WAR. What did she think was going to happen, that she wouldn’t have to fight anyone herself? Why did she stop her dad from killing Adam but doesn’t react strongly to Niffty finishing the job? If it mattered so much to her, the lack of reaction seems strange to me.

Isn’t it just so poetic that her weapon in the war is a shield that she uses exclusively on herself, which she hardly even needs due to her contractual immunity?

Why doesn’t she think to use her powers to build and maintain the hotel? That doesn’t require any violence or domineering. Yet when lucifer comes over it’s run-down and falling apart. Or ask lucifer to help her build it? She was concerned that asking for the meeting with heaven was such a big ask—why not start with this small thing? Father-daughter bonding.

Why does the show end w lucifer + the sinners congratulating her, and in particular, rebuilding the hotel? Hell doesn’t know that sir pentious got redeemed, so from their pov charlie’s idea didn’t work at all.

Can you tell that I’m writing this while I’m rewatching the show?

Aaand that’s that. Her char has always come off to me as somewhat condescending/fake, but I keep finding more and more things to dislike about the way she’s been written. Unfortunate. Honestly tho I might enjoy watching her more if I read her through this lens. You could probably write a similar post for most/all other chars in the show, limited only by the amount of screentime they get lmao

[sappymix1]

this is another perfect example of the way that people in this space treat serious issues as a fucking discourse point and completely disregard the actual feelings of the women involved like i’m angry on dreams behalf obviously like that shits fucked up but i cannot imagine being a young woman in streaming and completely out of nowhere, a streamer decides to accuse another streamer — someone if you’re not friends with then at least someone you’re friendly with — of acting inappropriately towards you, when this did not happen and even if it did it wasn’t something that you gave consent to be shared. and now everyone is talking about it and arguing about it. like i just cannot imagine how violating that must feel but oh it makes some minecraft youtuber we don’t like look bad so it’s okay. and the same way there are all these people in hannah’s replies talking gleefully about how they hope her women in streaming panel talks about how poorly they were all treated on the dsmp and like why is this fun for you??? why are you fucking excited at the idea that women were treated horribly and abused because it means that the minecraft server you dislike looks bad???

[vulto-cor-de-rosa]

Dreams response to grooming allegations VS Quackity leaving him on seen