#not that cql wwx isn't just as stupid they both have the do you like mianmian moment

[blessyouhawkeye]

novel wei wuxian is the funniest guy in the world because he'll go "oh lan zhan is so handsome today look at how broad his shoulders are he looks so nice in white i love how he smells" or "wow the torso of this fierce corpse is really strong and muscular he must have been super hot" and then immediately follow that up with "but that's what a GIRL would think" like. wwx the call is coming from inside the house

[fincalinde]

lwj, for the meme?

Not the Lan bro I was expecting but here goes!

a song that reminds me of them

This doesn't remind me of him because I wouldn't want to ruin it for myself, but I can imagine a sad montage of interregnum LWJ set to I Am Stretched On Your Grave. Anyway, my proper answer is Frostrósir by Eivør. It's in Faroese, which I do not speak, but I pinched something from here:

Each sigh from a lonely soul Every word that was formed without sound Now seems like a frostbitten affair Dressed in the guise of lifeless flowers

what they smell like

We have an answer to this in canon and it's sandalwood, so I don't have much to add.

an otp

I mean, it is the central point of the novel. But even aside from that, LWJ is consistently only ever interested in WWX. I'm not saying he shouldn't be interpreted as gay, but I am saying that even if he is gay it's secondary to his actual sexual identity which is Weiyingsexual. I'm not treading any new ground here.

Personally I don't find Wangxian interesting, but I at least believe they love each other and are compatible in the sense that they are both selfish in slightly different ways that mesh well for their own private universe. Not so great for others in their orbit, but part of that is authorial fiat so I try to be fair about what I hold against them.

I don't think CQL successfully executed the changes it made to Wangxian in having them click and partner up from the beginning, but I do think it was necessary to at least attempt to rebalance the relationship. In MDZS, WWX genuinely does not reciprocate LWJ's feelings in his first life beyond a very deeply buried and not particularly inevitable spark. His first life is really centred on his relationships with JC and JYL and they are the tragic 'romance' (in the traditional sense). LWJ only gets upgraded during the second life. Kind of awkward to do your sweeping romance if it isn't a romance in the 35+ episodes of flashbacks, so I don't blame them for trying. And I do like the Colin Firth vibes WYB brought to his LWJ.

a notp

Aside from not finding the idea of LWJ with anyone else convincing, let me take the opportunity to pettily sideswipe at Chengxian and shoving LWJ in to make it what? Wangchengxian? Is that what it's called? Either way, nooooooo thank you. You can't get much more fraternal than WWX and JC's idiot bickering, and even if they weren't such classic stupid boys together, JC and LWJ loathe one another with the kind of loathing that does not give way to a rendition of I've Grown Accustomed To Her Face. (Incidentally, in the original stage version Eliza walks out on Higgins never to return, and it is awesome.)

favorite platonic/familial relationships

Obviously it's his relationship with LXC (and by extension LQR?). Just absolutely fascinating. Their rapport is very sweet, as is LXC's protectiveness and gentle trolling. LWJ is not a particularly good didi, but LXC both doesn't notice and doesn't mind.

Actually, someone once made a meme for me in relation to this, let me dust it off and drag it out:

More seriously, though he was also raised with harsh discipline, in comparative terms LWJ is the spoilt baby of the family. As is often the result when we encounter morally rigid characters in MDZS, he is also in many respects hypocritical. Clearly I have a lot of negative things to say about him as a brother to LXC, but I'm not interested in demonising him and what's really interesting about it is that by and large this uneven dynamic works for the Twin Jades. Right up until it doesn't.

When LXC really needs LWJ to come through for him, he just doesn't. I'm not even talking about LWJ's behaviour leading up to and during the Temple, which is objectionable in the sense that he refuses to give JGY the benefit of the doubt that LXC extends to WWX. No, I'm talking about the fact that he bods off for literal months after LXC has just been through the worst experience of his life and lost his closest friend and partner. And I don't want to hear it about LXC being the elder and having a responsibility to take care of LWJ. LWJ owes consideration to his big brother and clan leader, even if that consideration might take a different form.

Here's a thought experiment. After WWX's first death, when LWJ has been whipped 33 times by the discipline whip and dragged himself to rescue LSZ and branded himself in drunken grief, can you imagine LXC bodding off for three months without a word to have picnics with JGY? It's inconceivable isn't it.

I didn't intend for this section to become a hit piece on LWJ and he obviously does love his brother, but in terms of actions it is somewhat of a one way street. The fact that LXC has no other expectations doesn't protect LWJ from my croc-hatted judgement face.

a headcanon that is popular in the fandom but that i disagree with

Righteous LWJ. Oh, please. In MDZS, righteousness goes hand in hand with hypocrisy, and though I doubt MXTX the human being intended LWJ to be read as thoroughly selfish, the (translation of) the text she wrote is a depiction of a profoundly selfish man. And that's not a bad thing, because his selfishness coupled with the occasions when he is genuinely altruistic makes him more interesting than if he really were a moralising ice cube with a ribbon tied around it.

the position they sleep in

Official Lan Position, and postcanon I probably don't want to know.

a crossover au i’d love to see them in

I'm going to be lazy and suggest X-Men AU again just because his secondary power would definitely be organic diamond form like Emma Frost. I don't think he'd also be a telepath, but the idea of that is funny because he could read WWX's mind and know for certain that WWX isn't (currently) into him. But as a serious answer, organic diamond form as a secondary power and then primary power the same as Alison Blaire. I see no reason why his mutant name wouldn't be Dazzler too.

my favorite outfit they’ve ever worn

I think he only has like one outfit. I'm sorry, I'm not cool enough to be able to distinguish between different varieties of plain white robes. In CQL I prefer first life LWJ because they put that massive ornament on second life LWJ's head to make him look older and taller but actually they created an unfortunate perspective effect where he just looks even shorter.

[bipirate]

what do you expect from WWX and LWJ's life together after ep. 50?

I admit that their life in Gusu that we see in the extra chapters isn't really what I was hoping for. WWX is like walking on a light suspended thread. He has Lan Zhan's love but what else? The rules in Gusu are a burden for him, he doesn't like that lifestyle but he forces himself to bear it, so Lan Zhan won't lose his face. Lan Zhan tells him that he doesn't care if he breaks the rules but then when he sees WWX talking to a female cultivator, he tells him that it is forbidden in Gusu. He tries to correct Wei Wuxian's daily routine for MONTHS, so that he gets up at 5 am like him, even if wwx doesn't want to. Yes there are the juniors but they aren't a consolation because they cannot speak freely with WWX in public otherwise they will be punished by Lan Qiren (who still has fhe major power in gusu and i don't know why). WWX attends a family party and he feels a bit miserable because he can't have fun and still misses Lotus Pier a lot. He misses the youthful, free version of himself. But he solves all of his conflicts and problems as he has always done: smiling.

He's happy to have Lan Zhan caring for him (but at the cost of being quite dependent on him), he deserves love but I also believe he deserves a different life in which he no longer has to submit to anyone's prerogatives.

as i said earlier i havent read the novel extras bc i wasn't interested in reading more of a novel i didnt enjoy lmao but tbh i don't take novel canon to be part of cql canon at all.

as for how i personally think lwj and wwx's life together post ep 50 is like... i think it would be a mix of them being wandering cultivators and them staying in gusu. i think it would be a good middle ground because they both like adventure and helping people and it would do them both good to be away from the cultivation world and other people's expectations, but i also think that the cloud recesses are really important for lwj especially and he wouldn't want to leave his brother and uncle and sizhui (and the bunnies!) all alone all the time, so they'd definitely return there every once in a while. it also gives them a place to wind down. wwx probably gets back into gardening and joining lwj in teaching young disciples. im a firm supporter of the idea that they want to be a good example for the new generation and that requires them to not be rogue cultivators 24/7. i also don't think it would be as miserable for wwx as it is in the novel - cql lqr can be a pretty chill guy once he calms down a bit imo, and i think it would be nice to see him begrudgingly start to like wwx a bit. there are no anti-wwx rules in gusu bc that's stupid. obviously lwj is not a jealous possessive asshole so wwx is allowed to talk to anyone he wants. lwj breaks rules for him constantly by bringing him wine and stuff anyway and he'll let wwx sleep in if that's what he wants. (edit: actually he doesn’t ‘let’ wwx do anything lmao wwx does what he wants and that’s not lwj’s business)

after a while i think they'd adopt a couple of kids. at this point they'd settle down more, although i don't think they'd ever give up going on extended night hunts. And maybe after those first few years of having kids, they'd want to move out of the cloud recesses and settle down in a place of their own. like... the idea of them living in a cute little house, surrounded by kids, adored by the rest of the village, and they have their own little vegetable garden, going out on the occasional night hunt until they retire there... that's just really cute and nice to me. of course they'll still visit the cloud recesses from time to time, sizhui and wen ning pop by all the time, and they go to visit lotus pier and koi tower every once in a while. it's peaceful.