#oitnb final season

[disneyprincessdxminatrix]

It’s been a couple of years but I am finally watching the final episode of orange is the new black

[antiyourwokehomophobia2]

I love how OITNB completely faded into obscurity. How did it even end. Does anyone know? Did anyone watch the finale 😭 Without looking it up, tell me how many seasons it had. Legit, how was this show THE show a few years ago.

[squidprinceofwinterfell]

I’m the anon who asked if you read the comics, and I’m actually glad you didn’t because my next question is how do you think The Deep’s storyline is going to end on The Boys? Do you think he’ll get a happy ending? Also, separate from how you actually think it’ll end, how would you want it to end for him?

Thanks for following up!!

I’m almost 100% certain The Deep is dying in season 5, much as it pains me to admit. I was always pretty sure that’s how his story would end, but his “breaking bad” storyline in season 4 basically confirms it.

Eric Kripke (the showrunner) has stated in a recent Rolling Stone interview that he thinks of The Boys as “a moral universe where when you choose love, family, and mercy, good things happen to you. And when you choose vengeance and hate, that causes as much harm to you as it does to the person you’re trying to enact vengeance on.” (x)

This mindset is why I believe A-Train will ultimately survive, much like Queen Maeve got to run away with Elena instead of dying in the season 3 finale (even though she never logically should have survived Soldier Boy’s blast AND that fall). Similarly, characters who actively choose violence like Homelander, Butcher, and The Deep are almost certainly dying next season.

Of course, I would love for The Deep to survive – and so would Chace Crawford, the ultimate Deep Diver! (x) My dream ending for him is that he, Black Noir II, and Sister Sage all run away together after Homelander is eventually killed and Vought falls. However, I know that my Deepnoirsage throuple/found family fantasy is far too fanfic-y to be realistic.

If by some miracle The Deep survives until the end, I think there are a few interesting directions they could take his character.

I would love to see another fight between The Deep and Starlight where she allows him to live but blinds him with her powers. It would be a nice callback to their confrontation in season 1 when she threatens to “burn his eyes out” and it would allow The Deep to “get what he deserves” or whatever while still keeping him alive and permanently changed in a way that would be really compelling. Plus, I think Chace Crawford would be great at showing that vulnerability and showcasing some fun physical comedy as The Deep learns how to be blind.

Another option is that The Deep loses his powers somehow. I’ve seen a theory that the Supe virus could be mutated in season 5 to not kill Supes but strip them of their powers instead. I would love that for The Deep because I can only assume that losing his powers wouldn’t change his physical form, since his gills are a part of his body that grew during puberty. It would be so deliciously tragic for The Deep to be forced to keep the part of his powers that he hates (his gills) while losing the part that he treasures (talking to fish and other marine life).

It would also be cool to see The Deep, Black Noir II, and all the other dastardly Supes in Homelander’s entourage get exposed and put in prison for their crimes, instead of simply being killed. It would technically be a punishment but picturing The Deep and Black Noir II broing it up in jail, OITNB-style makes me laugh and has so much fanfic potential.

Thanks again for the question, anon!! I always relish a chance to yap about my favorite horrible guy.

[multiphandommess]

Inanimate Anger

Requested by- @wosoobsessed

Request - Hiya ,when you get a chance would you be able to do a Natasha fic based on this video . https://youtu.be/aKEL1xiCWvQ?si=mXwOUTd0w9wm93Lc towards the end when she talks about like how angry she gets about like not being able to find a shoe🤣🤣🤣 I thought this would be funny if there was a fic based of the reader and Nat having an argument about Natasha blaming the reader for not being able to find her shoe before they go to dinner. And maybe it’s their oitnb cast wrap dinner so when they get there they are both like ignoring eachother cus they’re pissed off and then one of the cast members is drunk realises and interigates them about it. And then finally they make up and Natasha admits it was stupid to start an argument over a shoe and then the next day they are doing press and Nat talks about that argument while the reader is in the room. And the interviewer finds it really funny. so instead of Nat and the reader crying about it they laugh about it later on In bee 🤣🤣🤣

If you wanna get staticky to the part I’m thinking about skip to 18.55 cus it’s a pretty long interview I don’t wanna waste ur time 😂😂😂. Thank you tho !!

“YOU FUCKING PRICK!” was the first thing Natasha had said to me as I walked into her apartment to pick her up to go to the OITNB season 3 wrap cast-only dinner. We had been dating for about 6 months and I was baffled. Natasha had never yelled at me before and I was concerned, “Baby? What is wrong?” She was stomping around her apartment angrily, “Why the FUCK did you take my goddamn shoe?!” “What? Baby-” “Don’t call me that! You don’t deserve it, shoe thief! Fuck you!” She cut me off. “Natasha, we don’t wear the same shoe size. Besides, I just got here. What shoe are you looking for?” I replied, a bit concerned for my girlfriend. “My fucking boots! The black ones!” She said, continuing on her rampage. “The ones you wore when we went out for drinks with Laura and her husband, Ben? When we all got wine drunk? Maybe you just put them somewhere else-” “No! You fucking took them!” She said, cutting me off again. “Fuck you, Nat. I'm waiting in the fucking car. I hope you find your goddamn shoe in time,” I said. I was angry that she kept cutting me off, so I walked back down to my car, slamming the door to both her apartment and my car. 

10 minutes later, she got in my car. We drove in silence as we were both still pissed. We got to the restaurant and walked in, refusing to hold hands or any other physical contact. All of our fellow cast members were shocked, we were always touching in some way because my love language is physical touch. However, none of them said anything. As the dinner went on, we ignored each other and refused to talk to each other. Eventually, we all got drunk and Taylor was drunkenly rambling when she turned to us, “So, why are y’all pissy?” I looked up, “What?” She elaborated, “You guys are angry. You two won’t even look in each other's direction. And you guys typically steal each other's food or take sips of each other's drinks and yet, y’all have done none of that.” We were both speechless. “Um…” I started. “They took my shoes.” Nat finished. “No, I didn’t! Why would I even do that?!” I said. “B-because…w-well…” Nat said. “Exactly! I didn’t do shit! And you found them, did you not?” I said. “...fine, I lost my shoes, you didn’t do anything.” She admitted

A few weeks later, me and Natasha were at an interview. It was just her but she wanted me to come with her for moral support. I was sitting behind the camera and listening as I went over a script I had. They started to talk about mood swings and things that piss her off as she was clean from her addictions. This caught my attention. I stopped what I was doing and listened to what she said…and I nearly fell over laughing. I had to hold my hand over my mouth and leave the room as she began talking about her anger with inanimate objects and how she blamed it on other people. I stayed outside of the room until the interview was over because I was wheezing from laughing so hard. When she walked out, she saw the tears in my eyes and the fact I was still laughing. “Baby, are you ok?!” She asked, laughing as well. “I had no idea that that was just something you did!” I said, crouching on the floor with laughter. “I’m sorry, I should have let you know,” She said, pulling me off of the floor. I hugged her and pressed a short kiss to her lips, “It’s fine, just let me know next time you feel anger towards inanimate objects.”

[warningsine]

Hm.

Unfortunately, season 5 is not living up to the hype of the strong season 4 finale.

They are struggling to balance the slapstick comedy with the serious subject matter and no wonder. They really wrote themselves into a corner when they decided to incorporate the BLM movement, because the expectations are naturally high. Dealing with the riots and finding a resolution for them must have been no easy feat.

So far they've been more preoccupied with the spectacle of the ladies taking control of the prison rather than with the bigger implications and questions that short-lived power raises for these characters.

As I'm not binge-watching the season, its slow pacing is not bothering me, but I hope they didn't do that thing where all arcs and subplots are unneccessarily dragged for several episodes and then everything happens all at once in the last one, because that is tricky and can backfire.

"Yellowjackets"--to mention another series with an ensemble cast--executed this perfectly in the first season, but the same cannot be said for its second one.

Back to OITNB.

The charm of most characters remains intact.

The focus on Danielle Brook's Tasha and Selenis Leyva's Gloria was an excellent choice, because both actresses' performances are outstanding. That being said, I wish they had given Laverne Cox something more to do as she is also great. Sophia's dynamic with Gloria has had me on a chokehold for two seasons now.

Another welcome surprise: Janae was finally given a more unique voice. Now had they done the same with Alison, I would have been ecstatic. Although well-intentioned, their depiction of Muslim women is not very nuanced.

Additionally, Uzo Aduba is killing it, but what else is new there? Truly loving what they are doing with Suzanne.

Last but not least, is the evil corporate lady going to briefly date Carrie? Hell yes, I've been waiting 5 seasons to see what a smitten Boo looks like. Of course I'm into them since they are not going to last. (Hi, Soso/Poussey and Lorna/Nicky.)

As for the weaker points that hopefully will have been addressed and/or resolved by the end of the season:

Whatever happened to that recurring theme of imprisoned mothers craving to talk to their families? Why are the ones that own phones now not calling their children?

Why are the white pride skinheads hanging out with the women they hate?

The recycling of Piper/Alex's will-they-won't-they relationship--as if there had ever been a chance they would not end up together, please!--is getting exhausting. As a viewer that actually likes them individually and as a group now, I keep wondering: did they not know what to do with them? At all?

As for Nicky and Lorna, I'm trying to leave my monkey brain and biases aside in order to ask: will they ever give them new arcs? Because season 5 is not saying anything new about them. Nicky is still pining over Lorna, who lives in her own imaginary world and refuses to see what is right in front of her. This has been going on-and-off for four--five actually, but alright--seasons now except Nicky is sober yet again. (Good for her.) Lyonne and Stone are amazing, why waste their talent like this?

When OITNB fucks up, it fucks up badly. Pray tell, why is Tiffany still having a relationship with the CO that raped her? They had already made a point about her response to her trauma in seasons 3 & 4. Either there is a deeper message about abusive relationships that is flying over my head or I'm just impatient and this subplot will be completed soon.

[punkbxt]

dime the takes. por favor.

*gets real close to the vending machine* quiero pepsi

okay all seriousness tho imma try to do this in a way thats like idk semi respectful towards janeway but i also need yall to know i do NOT reallyf fuck with her. idk if ive explained why before but i guess here we go

unlike most people that enjoy star trek i didnt really get into it till 2018 and then the demmy hit n i had nothing but time to consume every star trek imaginable and thats how i found voyager. yeah sure make fun of me for not knowing what star trek is but i need YALL to know that it is white and usamerican culture to be raised on trek and I DONT CARE. the only reason i got into star trek is bc a white friend introduced me. all this to say i was introduced to janeways actress through oitnb red ilu so much red best evil white lady <3

anyways i know janeway gets hate for having been the only lady captain and i always preface anything i say about her with this so yall understand that this is not the reason i dislike her but in reality it doesnt help either

also its tiring as fuck to include my opposing argument but it has to be done bc ppl are like “what about- pkay but you didnt consider how- yeah but- actually youre wrong bc-“ like fuck man im doing my damndest i literally hate voicing my opinions bc yall INSIST people of color dont actually get it n its tiring

if youve followed me since i started voyagerposting you may have noticed ive only actually drawn janeway twice and its cuz as a person she rubs me the wrong way for so many reasons

janeway gets put in this impossible position of being the top of the hierarchy pyramid to a crew that doesnt think theyll ever make it home again. shes deemed a mother figure by a LOT of characters but im gonna talk abt her dynamics with b’elanna, and seven because if i were to talk about the dynamics between janeway and harry thatd have to be its own post

when i get into a show, i loooveeee knowing what was happening behind the scenes because i love it!! i love set design i love character design i love costume design i love seeing what the actors are like outside of the show and how they feel about these characters bc these things ARE important. (writers too pero i have beef) behind the scenes is the biggest influence to the final product bc its the reason the final product exists in the first place and behind the scenes so many things went wrong. and when actors are mistreated or dont get along with eachother it becomes pretty apparent. well at least if you analyze things the way i do

so heres my issue with janeway seven and b’elanna. b’elanna is typecast to be the ugly character. klingons gave always gotten the short end of the stick and the case with her isnt as harsh bc her actress is a mixed puerto rican (information that has actually only recently been revealed bc when i tried to find out what roxan’s ethnicity was in 2019 i literally could not find anything definitive except for shes latina) but she STILL gets a lot of shit

one of my favorite things about voyager before the introduction of seven was how b’elanna and janeway actually got to bond a lot over science and when seven took on the roll of pretty girl on the ship, b’elanna and janeway suffered a LOT for it. we have an interesting dynamic between a maquis engineer and a federation captain genuinely not getting along bc b’elanna doesnt see janeways as an authority figure. not until chakotay has something to say about it and also until b’elanna and janeway actually talk about shit n get over their differences. the issue is when ppl purposely skip the earlier seasons to get to seven and then a lot of important interpersonal character building is missed I SAY THIS BC PEOPLE OFTEN FORGET THAT VOYAGER HAS BEEN ASSIMILATED BY THE BORG BEFORE AND EVEN THE WRITERS LET IT SLIP THEUR MIND N ITS LIKE BRO U HAVE GOLD TO WRITE WITH N U JUST LET IT COLLECT IN THE CORNER

seven is a unique and interesting character when she is first introduced. seven looks like any other borg and is so COOL. and then immediately all the cool interesting things about the way seven looks is basically negated to a few shiny parts. and yes janeway is partly to blame

BUT! what is the easiest way to gain the trust of people who already have bad history with who you once were? assimilation of course! seven goes from being one of many to the outcasts outcast

but punkbxt! what does any of this have to do with why you dislike janeway as a character? if anything it sounds more like you dislike seven. as long as the character is white ill always hold a lil disdain for them in my heart <3

janeway symbolizes the best of starfleet. she is an accredited officer and an extremely capable scientist. she is a beautiful white woman in THE position of power something that was revolutionary for her time. the issues with white women being put in positions of power is they they have NEVER had the interests of black and brown people to heart. “yes they-“ SHUT UP and let me speak before you decide to comment on this goddamn post

feminism throughout the centuries has focused on white women and while a show is merely a fraction of the lived reality of its time the effects are still extremely clear. white feminism JUMPED at the character of janeway and celebrated her and rightfully so! the issues came about when women like b’elanna got attacked and pushed to the side. this directly affected janeway within fandom and she got and still is recognized for accomplishments SHE DID NOT DO. she got put on a pedestal and once that happens to a character they suddenly can do no wrong. except she does because shes a human and shes white and shes a character with writers behind her

b’elanna has never actually been a super popular character and the wave of love for her is actually pretty fucking recent and not to toot my own horn but i definitely was a big part of the b’elanna love resurgence. when i got into voyager and these dates ARE important, i used to scroll through her entire tag easily a couple times through a DAY. fans occasionally created art for her and yeah! she got fics but nowhere in comparison to her other peers. surrounding yourself with people who also love her and want to create for her does help with recognition of b’elanna but its super recent stuff. and to add onto that any white fan that has an opinion about her will always be biased because they just do not understand what it is like to exist as a latina woman of color

this is where me myself and i come into the story because wowowowowow star trek is so cool! star trek preaches on and on and on about diversity love acceptance hate oppression and all that good stuff so who wouldnt love it??? and then??? OMG THERES A LATINA CHARACTER IN ONE SERIES OMG OMG OMG. imagine my disappointment when i found out that she a main character barely was getting any love. it hurt. because even within a narrative of inclusion somehow characters of color just seem to always be pushed to the side. especially when a fandom has such a majority percentage of white people

watching her story was SO personal to me. i could see myself in her struggling with living in america. i lived my childhoods in puerto rico and in many different parts of usamerica, surrounded by family and people like me until that wasnt the case anymore. i spent my life living as a nomad with no place to call home for on average no less than a year and no more than three. i could understand b’elanna with her struggles of living in a klingon monastery and then being thrust into an unforgiving and unaccepting world where humans/white people are the most important. the internalized racism that i grew up with was horrendous and to this DAY i am still trying to learn and better myself and connect with my culture in any way i can. because in a black ans white world, where is the space for those of us that dont fall under either? we are ignored and erased and with b’elanna is has been the same

the rejection b’elanna had to her klingon side was something i could relate to incredibly. but it still isnt enough. because even though i could connect with her through her klingon-ness, her latinidad is simply a label. throughout the show you see her change and grow and assimilate to the federation standard and it HURT. the narrative that i was directly picking up from her story was yeah you can be a part of the club but only if you do it how we want you to do it. and dont you EVER even talk about being latino unless its to shit on your deadbeat of a father. and i did. i learned how to adapt at an extremely young age. ive been told its one of the things i do best (sad isnt it?)

and okay how do seven and janeway have anything to do with this? well they are the white women who we literally have to conform to and for. thats it period

seven as a character had an amazing opportunity to challenge gender and sexuality because of her story (one that would have been better suited had she been an indigenous woman which ive spoken on before but thats for another post too) and then the people in charge decided that she just HAD to be the sexywoman instead of leaning into just how much she was no longer human and how humanity itself doesnt actually have one right way to be

this narrative is given to us by janeway time and time and time again correcting seven and telling her that seven simply is not himan enough and still has to learn. (things autistic ppl can suuuuuper relate to which is a reason i could connect with seven at all). no matter how you want to look at it (whatever canon you want to decide isnt canon anymore for the sake of a fucking ship) janeway was directly written to be a mentor and mother figure to seven. janeway is there to help her learn when in reality she can never understand what its like to be an outcast within the federation and to take it a step further be part of a eace which is treated with hostility by humans. something b’elanna CAN understand and relate to because at the time of voyager shits still om the rocks between klingons and humans. janeway pushes seven to accept and embrace humanity as if thats the only option seven has to become a better character but its just not true. the story woven between janeway and seven is one of white women and femininity and how to be the perfect white woman and how to be a good lover. by actively ignoring the help and influence b’elanna could have provided for seven to learn and adapt to a majority human world they put all that weight on janeway. something that affects ALL three of them negatively and results in a narrative of “well b’elanna could never understand and relate to seven in a way that matters” which is beyond true because they are so interwoven even unintentionally so. it simply just wasnt taken further and its a true shame

and this isnt even touching on how badly seven’s actress was treated by janeways actress for being the pretty new doll at the time of filming and how that affected how i felt about janeway/seven as a ship (similarly how castle and beckett did not get along behind scenes i could no longer enjoy that show anymore)

i simplified this IMMENSELY and this shit is already long enough as it is so im sorry about that but yeah thats it. also sorry if things got repetitive ive been told i tend to do that when i write. these are my feelings and i am a real human behind this account so keep in mind how you react to this post. i have recieved countless hate anons most of which ive deleted throughout my short lived time as a fan of this franchise. i used to be MUCH more vocal about representation within star trek and people got mad so i left. but im back because the people that love b’elanna and that love that i have things to say about her matter so much fucking more than any angry person ever will

[degloved]

rewatching shows you grew up with is so worth it sometimes. i don't remember what i used to think about the s1 finale of oitnb back then, but man do i have thoughts now. the confrontation that's been waiting to happen all season finally happening. doggett at the height of her delusion and chapman at the height of her rage, god healy as their witness. the higher power, scorned, letting it unfold. see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil. chapman holding back from making the first move, because she's not that kind of person. she's not. she won't let this place make her this person. (it already has.) doggett granting her the permission she so desperately craved no matter how much she'd convince herself otherwise; that first slash, the first splatter of blood marring the unmarred snow. the instinct to lurch forward and tackle and punch, the subsequent loss of control. the act of tapping into that carefully concealed beast within and the choice to drop the leash. it's out of her hands now, she couldn't reel it in if she tried. she's never thought to teach it recall. the only thing to do now is basking in the crunch of cartilage beneath her knuckles, the blood warming her freezing hands. the consequences are out of sight and out of mind, the world reduced to the startling fragility of the face that found itself in the wrong place at the wrong time. it's sooo whatever. what a show. i love you piper chapman

[3dnygma]

Fave TV and Films of 2023

Thank you so much for tagging me @stvlti !!

Here are my 9 fave first watches (not necessarily first releases) of 2023! I listed them in no particular order.

Orange is the New Black: My girlfriend and I finished watching it in 2023 and I was amazed by the quality of the show and how many wonderful things it achieved that so many shows nowadays still struggle with.

Once Upon a Time: We needed another show to binge after OITNB so we moved onto this one. I love the characters + ridiculous plotlines lol. It kinda reminds me of Gotham in that regard. We're at season 4 rn and binging it currently makes up a big part of my weekly routine!

GOTG vol. 3: Been looking forward to that one for years and loved it <3

Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes: Did not initially intend on seeing that one at the movies but so many friends recommended it that I simply had to. It delivered :) Great story and performances.

The Last Voyage of the Demeter: Dracula is one of my fave novels of all time whose epistolary storytelling has deeply influenced me and my studies over the years. The portion on the Demeter was always my favourite chapter in the novel and I'm glad that someone decided to turn it into a movie on its own because it often gets ignored in other Dracula adaptations.

May December: Starting watching it for Cory Michael Smith but really enjoyed the movie as a whole.

Across the Spider-Verse: Soooo fun and energetic with great characters and animation. Looking forward to the final one.

Five Nights at Freddy's: Once again, been waiting for that one for ages and the fact that the Henson Company worked on it made me even more excited for it. 100% how I expected that movie to go and I'm glad for it.

One Piece: My gf is a huge fan of the anime and it was fun watching that adaptation with her :) Also a good introduction to ppl like me who are only vaguely familiar with the characters.

This just made me realize how much my 2023 was defined by "fun" media haha. There are not that many "serious" movies to be found here. But I'm guessing that's because I just find "fun" first-time viewing experiences more memorable.

If you feel like doing this challenge, consider yourselves tagged!!

[artofdoubt]

Hi there, I hope you're doing good? I wanted to ask: what was the most significant queer scene/show/movie so far? Is there one that was your first but another that had more of an impact on you?

Hey, hope you're doing good as well!

South of Nowhere was the first wlw show I watched, I was 14 and it didn't mean much to me back then cause I still thought I was straight, I kept telling myself I was being a good ally™ by watching shows about lesbians cause I was cool and not like the other girls lmao

Most impactful would be San Junipero, I can't begin to explain how much it means to me, I think it's always going to be my most beloved piece of media

Honorable mentions: OITNB and Killing Eve, they both failed me with a drop in quality and a shitty final season but I owe Villaneve and Vauseman my life

[xxnottobeperceivedxx]

rewatching oitnb and just got to the season 4 finale, crying my eyes out i can’t do this again

[disneyprincessdxminatrix]

note to self: don’t drink mountain dew after 7pm

[saintazazel]

oitnb season 2 finale was CRAZY i love this show

[murcielagatito]

omg hi it's me aleida anon!!!!! i've been getting so many oitnb tiktoks on my fyp again i'm tempted to rewatch the series for the what? 5th or 6th time? lost track. but one of those has caused a major roman empire of mine to come back and it's how later seasons aleida acted like early seasons daya but later seasons daya acted like early seasons aleida

like idk. maybe just need to be sedated.

aleida anon comeback era hopefully?

hiiiiiii omfg bc ive been thinking about it and truly daya and aleida is one of the saddest arcs of the show. daya has to grow up with the most immature mom in the world so it causes her to have to take up that third parent role which is a really traumatizing thing to have to deal with as a kid. like that shit fucks u UP. amd then she finally fucks up and lands herself in prisonn with aleida whos finally trying to be a mom to her and daya is having none of that shit and i get it. daya slowly loses herself in a constant downward spiral and instead of listening to the people who have her best interests in mind (gloria) she listens to those who dont (maria) meanwhile aleida is finally trying to take shit serious fr but shes doomed because the system is fucking against her. she tries really hard to get her life together and mature up but the tables literally really do turn when aleida finally maxes it to max which is dayas turf

wait one more thought. aleida is the villain of dayas story and in the end daya is the villain of aleida’s

hm…. lemme go lay down…..

[olivieraa]

y'know, I'll never not be upset about Orange is the new black and Lost

ive been saying it since forever what my top 5 shows are, but Ive only ever had a top 4 shows and then I get a bit... like I say the 5th one and have to explain that that one can be pushed out if I ever find somethng else

so like, sex and the city is in there bc, and I know I shouldnt have been, but it came out in the 90s and I watched it in the 90s, when I was way too young. then I rewatched it as a teen, rewatched it many times in my 20s, last rewatch was proooooooobably 2020. I'm due another rewatch. I legitimately never get tired of it

next fave is Avatar. its perfection. I've rewatched it almost as mutch as sex and the city

next is stranger things, started that... a few months after season 1 aired. I thought it was perfection as well.

and then we have Barry, my number one show of all. watched that not long after it was released. its extremely unknown over here, but when people do watch it they're amazed.

but the 5th spot, when asked, I always say "well it was Lost but eh..." or "I mean I'm not opposed to saying its Orange is the new black..."

I consider my top 4 to be flawless. yes I have my critiques of them for sure but they're just... they make me very happy.

I have... too much to say about Lost and OITNB. I mean Lost ended terribly, that's universally known. the finale came out at the same time around the world (5am for me), and the next day in school it was a huge topic and most of us agreed that, yeah............ that couldve gone better

I never rewatched Lost since. but I do remember, when becoming a feminist, I saw Lost in a post on here talking about how, they're trapped on this island for months, and yet, the women had shaved pits and legs (and more obviously) which made no sense and it went to show that, the men could look any way they wanted, and people could be killed, and animals killed and babies kidnapped but GOD FORBID a hot woman look "unnattractive" with some hair under her arms

I also remember thinking she was the prettiest woman in the world bc she was so naturally pretty, no makeup!! psh.

so yeah it kinda turned me off the show, never going back to really see if there were any other flaws. the above and the ending alone were kind of... enough.

and then with OITNB, another terrible ending. but what made me so sad was that, the show had a shift moment. either season 4 or season 5. it felt like new writers took over.

half the cast wasnt in it any more and the show became depressing. a depressing lesbian show.

and oitnb was KNOWN as the mainstream lesbian show. it had so much popularity and everyone watched it and it won loads of awards. but no, I was not surprised when people stopped talking about it and it wasnt nominated for awards anymore. it really and truly went off track.

I would love to have had OITNB as my fifth fave shows, cause my shows are all feminist. but I think OITNB just didn't know what it was doing in the latter half and it makes me sad

[girltomboy]

So I finished my OITNB rewatch (tbh the final season/episodes felt rushed and forced, but overall I was right to remember it as a good show and I'm really glad I rewatched it because I understood certain parts much better now - my best friend is rewatching it with her bf too!) and then I tried to watch Haunting of the Hill House. SO TERRIBLE! Why did so many people praise this slop when it came out? I remember everybody talking about it. My coworker recommended it to me and I was already aware that our tastes aren't very similar, but now I'm firmly convinced of it. I couldn't finish ONE episode; the acting was incredibly bad and cringeworthy, I guess the characters were overall unlikable to me, and the writing was abysmal. And it's not even a horror series. So I dropped it, and I started watching Six Feet Under - I've had my eye on this show for maybe a decade, and now its time has finally come. Well, I've been pleasantly surprised to recognize so many actors in it, like Frances Conroy, Lauren Ambrose, and the guy from Dexter which I haven't watched. But I just started episode 4 and here's Aleida from OITNB! What a babe!!! I knew her voice sounded familiar (off-screen).

Update from 3 minutes later:

Hank too???

[warningsine]

So I started watching the 6th season of OITNB and it does indeed look like an improvement over the mess that was season 5. Phew.

Loving the drama with the OGs having to snitch on each other so that they won't get more time.

Red forgiving Nicky for fucking her over? [cries in a corner]

Have yet to feel bad about Frieda for doing the same though, because you don't see her hurting or feeling remorse. Unlike Nicky, she barely hesitates. Checks out. She's a survivor.

I still love Maria (pretty sure it's because the actress is really good no matter how bad the script gets), but can't blame Gloria for getting revenge. Can't blame Blanca for turning on her either.

What pained me a lot was seeing Cindy implicate Taystee. We had already known that Cindy is selfish and a coward, but this season and her new flashbacks really drive that point home. A really nice touch that she was the one to hug Tasha during her breakdown in front of Piscatella (season 5 finale).

Why is Alex not questioned about the events in the pool though? Does that happen in the background?

Moreover, it's a delight to see the OGs (Flaca, Cindy, Lorna, Daya etc.) interacting now that their cliques are not a thing anymore.

Moving on.

A thing that feels forced to me: Red losing all sense of control when she sees Frieda and thus missing the opportunity to meet her grandchildren for the first time. Like, come on. That only happens to trigger the "SHU is cruel and gives you dementia" ending, because it makes no fucking sense.

Red's s6 characterization is so inconsistent with her s1-s4 counterpart's, who played the long game and did not make such impulsive/hasty decisions.

Not counting s5 Red, because almost every character (except for Tasha, Gloria, Soso and Sophia) was an exaggerated caricature of themselves during season 5.

Another lady whose characterization is off? Lorna's, who thinks that joining a gang is good for her baby. Antidepressants (paroxetine) do have side effects, but do not give you a personality transplant.

"Don't look at me. I'm crazy, but not Florida crazy." Oh, baby.

That's the only reason they kept her there in season 6, because she adds literally nothing to the story.

Now, as for the new characters,

Love the guard who used to be Tasha's friend and Lorna's bunkmate. Hope they both get their own background episodes, because they're the most interesting ones.

Most of the other guards seem pretty bland in comparison--cheap repetitions of previous COs, e.g., Hellman is Humps no. 2.

A good thing that Artesian is back though. She's no Fisher or Wanda, but compared to the rest of the COs... Can't wait to see her PTSD episode.

Why is the show trying to make Dixon, the guard who compared Poussey's murder to breaking a chair and murdered several people and also a girl after he had sex with her because her loved ones "would kill her anyway," goofy and lovable all of a sudden? Isn't the woobification of Tiffany's rapist enough?

I like the "crazy baby killer" (Piper's bunkmate) and want to know what turned her into Medea.

All the new inmate villains (Carol, Barb, Badison & Annalisa) are so cartoonish and over the top. Waiting to see if they'll get any depth, but I'm sensing that the baddies on this show peaked at Vee. Even Piscatella seems more nuanced in comparison.

I'm struggling to see what people saw in Carol... that she's pretty? The older actress is ok, but the younger one's acting is, um, how to put this delicately? Not ideal.

Badison has some funny lines, but she's more of a tryhard high school bully than a compelling antagonist. Waiting to see if that's intentional or not.

Annalisa is so annoying and unnecessary. Could definitely do without her. Glad to know that Lorna attacks her before being moved to Florida honestly.

"Daddy" is so physically unimposing that I find it hard to buy he* is the protector of the block. Androgyny on its own isn't enough. Waiting to see if he'll get some development, because for the time being, it looks like he's Stella no. 2: there to look hot despite the subpar acting and personality of a spoon. But I suppose he's there to trigger Daya's kingpin arc and drug addiction. My point? Missing Boo hours.

*Not sure what pronouns I should use (Annalisa says "he"), because it's not clear to me whether "Daddy" is a trans guy, nonbinary or a cis masc lesbian.

Moving on again.

I found the opening with Suzanne's hallucinations charming yet a bit out of place.

The thing is, S1-S3 were more of a comedy than a drama. S4 was the turning point and the show became more of a drama than a comedy.

Season 5 should have committed to drama, but unfortunately tried to balance the two and stumbled.

Season 6 is another attempt at balancing the two.

Nicky remains funny, but the lines lack the spark and wit of her pre-s5 ones. Maybe that can be explained due to the "We're all in Max now" development, maybe it's due to the new writers interpreting her differently.

Something is missing there for sure and is definitely not the "I'm a player, but suddenly stopped chasing women" bit.

Piper keeps asking for Alex ("a broken record" like Daya says) and then spends her time joking about their wedding. What else is new with these two?

What else indeed. Hm.

Where the hell is Sophia? I know she gets out in the finale, but in the meantime, where is she? We barely saw her in season 5 after 2 interactions with Gloria.

Oh, last but not least, missing Soso and Chang hours.

Not missing Leanne and Angie at all hours. Too bad that they replaced them with equally irritating characters.