#only friends episode 8

[tiistirtipii]

Only Friends + Textposts part 10/?

[thatgirl4815]

We don't even know who this guy is, but can I just applaud him for how chill he was about the embarrassing conversation going on in front of him? The man smiled and shuffled away without a single complaint.

[sherrymagic]

When you're young you just run but you come back to what you need

BostonNick in ONLY FRIENDS EPISODES 8-10

[jenyifer]

Tiny detail about the photos BostonNick took at the lake….

So they took multiple photos not just one cause Nick asked? Also nick is smiling his ass off because in his photo Boston took it. It’s Boston taking a photo of him. THEN SAD BOSTON TRYING TO GET OVER NICK AT THE BAR is staring a photo that Nick took of the two of them on Boston’s phone. The vibes of these photos are also very different. Nick’s phone photo is so happy but it could possibly be mistaken for bros hanging out. While the one on Boston’s phone is darker expressions more relaxed but that possessive arm about nick can you mistake that for anything other than… people in a relationship?

They both are desperately trying to figure out how the other person feels about them. Nick is hoping Boston wants more from their relationship. They had so much fun together as people. That lake date was a window into a future Nick has been longing for and the photo is the cherry on top of the cake. But Nick is staring at this photo trying to figure out if Boston feels the same. Meanwhile Boston is staring at his photo that Nick took of him probably wondering what Nick was thinking when he betrayed him twice. Thinking about why Boston allowed Nick to become so close to him. To Boston in this photo Nick was seeing the real him. Nick had stuck by his side after Boston had fought with Ray and been told to run away from Boston with all his might. But Nick stayed. Boston is mourning a person who cared for him beyond his body. Trying to convince himself his feelings for Nick that still linger are annoying (I’m gonna talk about that later when the emotions have recovered.)

[adelilyy]

𓂃 ࣪˖ ִֶָ𐀔

thought of this a few days ago, but it really struck me how ray always seems to be asking for punishment. he has asked sand multiple times to yell, curse, hit, well, overall, just hurt him. and oh.

isn’t ray the perfect exemple of self-destructive behaviour? we've clearly seen his twisted relationship with alcohol and drugs, but now, i feel like it might even be portrayed in his constant demand for harmful gestures. imo, that boy sees life as a wicked two way highway: you do bad stuff in order to forget and erase bad stuff. you destroy yourself slowly. get numb. he gets rejected, he drinks. he can't forget about his crush, he gets high. his friend group is going to hell (him included), there goes the vodka bottle!

but asking for sand to hurt him is another one of his self destructive behaviours. oh, i know i did really bad stuff earlier, shouldn't have ran away like a dumbass because his royal saint mew called, sooooo... hit me.

please please please.

he's basically giving himself away just for sand to forgive him, but not in a normal, typical way. let's be real, in this kind of situation, most people would want to avoid getting yelled at, hit, or whatever it is that ray wants so much. no? isn't that the whole purpose of apologizing and talking it through with the person? to minimize the damage, and stay safe and sound?

but ray remains ray.

it's like he actually wouldn't give a flying fuck if sand raised a hand on him. surprised, probably, he might've been. but, honestly, don't think he would've been hurt. (hey, he hurt me, but damage is repaired! don't care if i'm bleeding or if i have a bruise the size of a tennis ball on my ribcage!!!!!!!!!!!!!) it's as if he thinks so lowly of himself that he doesn't even deem necessary to talk it through or apologize properly in the first place (he does do that, but quickly jumps onto the yell at me part) , he wants to be hurt.

look, we all know how low ray's self-esteem is. he doesn't think of himself as useful, outside the monetary aspect of his lifestyle. if he lends money, then, he is useful. he is no longer a burden! (i will jump every single person who called him that)

not growing up with present and loving parent figures, how could it even help his case? that man is simply not used to building healthy relationships from a young age, so why can't he ask to be hurt in exchange for forgiveness. what the fuck is talking and what does it solve.

i only know that bad and bad cancel each other, and the equation is solved.

because he deserves it. a worthless pitiful alcoholic without a mom. don't i deserve it? i've been there before. hit me and then, maybe, you'll feel better when i'm brought to the ground. and maybe, maybe, forgive me?

:(((

[lilssea]

Okay, let’s talk about what happened today and why I’m going to defend Mew after seeing so much hate on him today. Because, I as far as I saw many people were saying that was Mew’s fault if Sand and Ray were already together in this episode.

First of all: Ray is not stupid, is not be manipulated by Mew. He chose to be with him and not with Sand because he was literally in love with Mew since forever and as we saw in the trailer for the next episode he knows about Sand’s feelings and he is even possessive of him.

Mew and Ray are toxic for each other, do you know why I’m saying this? Because Mew is in a vulnerable state of mind because he already lost himself the moment he knew his boyfriend not only cheated on him but he did it with one of his best friend. A best friend, mind you, who is the exact opposite of him. More extrovert, more a party person and more flirty with way more experience than him. Oh, and let’s not forget that Mew was already vulnerable because he felt that he need to sleep with Top otherwise he thought he was gonna leave him or getting bored so they slept together and had his first time with someone who loved. And who told this? Boston the friends who betrayed him. Mew was already the “good boy”, the “bored one”, “virgin one”, he thought through his friends and other people that he was already a boring person or even a “frigid” one who no one would actually want to have a relationship with.

He thought that Top was gonna be different, Top was trying to change for Mew and he was even trying to make Mew do new things with him without the prejudice of the people that already he had on himself. Now, not only he lost Boston as friends; he now is grieving his own friends group because now he is just tired of being the good boy or be the one who need to be in the right and act like an adult among his friends especially with Ray. When Mew is a boy in is twenty who for the first time had a really deep relationship, in many levels, with another human in a non platonic way and he got really hurt so much that now he just want to be what the fuck he want. Like imagine trying not only to act like you have your own shit together but to be there for your friends and in particular for Ray.

Ray who know what is happening about everything: Sand be in love with him, Mew trying to forget Top with him and what he is doing now? He is just doing ‘Ray’ and do what he do normally so alcohol and drugs. But this time he doesn’t have Mew to scold him about him instead Mew is doing it with him even the simple sigarette’s scene you can see how tired Mew is with his old self and how Ray actually kinda likes this Mew because this one doesn’t reject him anymore as the old one but you can see in the party scene that Ray is jealous. Who is jealous? Sand. He literally ran when he saw Sand trying to kiss the other Freddie and trying to be in the conversation at first plus kissing Sand, say to the other Freddie that he can join him and Sand in a threesome after all of this bullshit you can finally see Sand snapping at Ray saying that he doesn’t belong to Ray so he should go and worry more about his boyfriend (who, mind you, left drunk and high with coke) who now at the same time is throwing up with Top beside him. He is not his second choice and Ray knows how vocal Sand actually he is with his own feelings and actions. He loves, he cares for Ray but he also values himself. And even after that Sand still got Ray’s back when the police came.

You like me, you love me, you are mine

I’m not your second option

How people can still defending him after this episode and telling that he is not problematic? Because he is as well as the all group of friends is. No one is “good guy” because they are people in their twenties with different backgrounds and different lives styles so please stop trying to painting someone as the bad guy only because your favourite is playing that character.

[anotherblblog]

For this being the first episode to have Boston as the outro, I feel the whole episode was really lacking in Boston/BostonNick….

[hyp-no-tic]

KILL ME NOW OK

[morose-marble]

A day late, but once again time for my weekly 'oh no the lads are being terrible' post

Ray is a fucking nightmare, at this point maybe a spot of jail would do him good (no it wouldn't, he needs rehab), can't believe he pulled the 'dead mom' card on Cheum, what a mess

Glad Sand recognizes that Bohemian Rhapsody might be a little out of his range, he should run far, far away from Ray's blast radius, good god

Yo, my girl, my angel, my heart breaks for her, I am Sand holding her from now until eternity

Mew is...he's not doing great. He needs better friends and an ex-boyfriend that does not take advantage of his inebriated state

Top i will kill you, you take care of him, prop him up on his side so he doesn't choke on his own vomit and do NOT take the opportunity to cuddle him, you insufferable man

Cheum is also in need of friends who are not dickheads, poor woman

Nick is just as delusional as always, i wonder why Boston isn't talking to you?? maybe because you wiretapped his car???? Gave someone info about an illegally recorded sex video of you????? You think of that??? hmm??? someone help him please

and boston....Boston. don't fuck your very angry friend's brother in the dark room. Don't do it. You might think, 'what's one more shitty decision?' this particular one? ill-advised. can't see a scenario in which this ends well. I'm holding out hope that you don't go through with it, but i have fear

and that's what you missed on glee

[hay1ock]

Pain for you. And pain for you. Pain for everybody.

Only Friends Episode 8 was a mess and I appreciate that lol.

Where to even start? These characters do be playing up this week.

I think I’ll start easy with Nick, who only got a couple of significant scenes this episode. Firstly, how freaking adorable was he as Detective Conan? (To be fair everybody looked amazing in their costumes) The glasses and hair and his little bow tie. He was super cute and you’d never think he’d be out here bugging cars lol. But yeah, before party time we get a scene and are introduced to Papang’s character, Dan. A senior, so a handful of years older, who’s offering him a job. I hate to say it, I already feel like Nick’s heading for more problems if he does end up pursuing a relationship. Firstly, he’s his boss, which is fine-ish, it will just depend on the power dynamics between them. And then how those dynamics translate to the Daddy Dan stuff we see in the preview. I was just wary of Dan saying there were ‘lots of issues’ with his previous relationship, so whether being called Daddy means he’s into dom/sub stuff and his other partner wasn’t… I guess we’ll have to see, and if that is the case, whether that’s something Nick is interested in exploring.

In terms of him and Boston this episode. Nick, baby, you really need to let it go. I felt bad for him as he happily chatted away about getting a position at the animation company. But I understand why Boston is doubly pissed at him now what with Mew getting hold of Gap’s recording. And as much as I hate agreeing with Boston, he is right, it’s not really Nick’s place to judge him, especially in light of his own actions regarding the wiretap. Also, I enjoy his continued friendship with Sand. I’m glad they were able to makeup and stay friends after Sand’s betrayal of trust.

Boston was also pretty straightforward this episode. He was mostly just minding his own business with a side of irritating Top. Their scene made me chuckle but knew as soon as they were together they’d end up getting spotted by Mew. The fact Boston was looking at the photo of him and Nick this episode is interesting. I don’t know if it’s ‘feelings’ as such for Nick, but maybe he kind of misses him as they had been spending a lot of time together. Whether anything else happens between them, I’m not sure. It seems both Nick and Boston will be exploring new people. Oh Atom. I can’t decide if he’s going to end up being Nick 2.0 or if it is casual curiosity about his sexuality and men. Boston wouldn’t be the worst person to explore that if feelings stay out of it. It’ll be interesting what goes on between them. Also, as a part-time Cheum non-appreciator (sorry Cheum fans) I enjoyed Boston getting back at her a little at the pool side.

And so onto the mess that is Ray and Mew and Top and Sand.

Back to the beginning of the episode. I find the Ray and Mew dynamic really sad. As much as I would love for them to work out, the truth is, in their current states, they’re bad for each other. Where before Mew was a light, someone who could, to a limited degree, lift Ray up and help in keeping a handle on things, now Mew is spiralling down to meet him. Heartbreak and betrayal can make people act out so I can understand Mew’s desire to be someone else for a little while. Being a ‘good’ boy got him nothing good. It’s interesting to me how his style in clothes and obviously the vices he’s trying are very Ray-ish in particular. I suppose his only other immediate blueprint would be Boston, and sex with just anyone probably isn’t as easy for someone like Mew.

I wonder if Ray would have been as forthcoming with meeting Mew’s requests if Mew hadn’t thrown out the possibility of them getting together? If Ray had stayed firmly in the friend zone would he have been able to hold back, try and support Mew via other means? As it is, Mew has offered him a chance to be with him. Personally, I don’t think they’re together together, more in some strange pre-boyfriend trial period like Top was put into. He’s flirting with the idea, trying to view Ray and their relationship through a different lens. Mew keeps saying he should love him, not that he does. He’s probably not ready to be in another relationship straight away and I would like to think that maybe Mew is aware enough of his feelings (or lack of) to keep Ray at a distance. Like he knows it won’t work out and maybe this way they can avoid too much hurt when the party inevitably ends - at least when he’s thinking clearer and not high and drunk.

Ray is kind of stuck in this place of wanting to please Mew and going along with everything. And it doesn’t help that Ray’s unable to admit he himself has a problem where drink and drugs are concerned, that he needs help, so we can’t expect him to be able to make a rational decision on someone else’s behalf (though he did query the cigarette at first).

Mew right now, isn’t the person Ray fell in love with. I don’t want to say he is using Ray but it’s hard to ignore that he is at some points - as an escape/distraction, as a way to get access to and indulge in bad habits, and as a way to get back at Top. The way he wouldn’t kiss Ray in private but would in front of Top.

Talking of Top, I’m kind of proud he was able to stay calm and not slap Mew when he ended up with a face full of drink. He’s a better person than me lol. But then to stand any chance of getting Mew back, he needs to let himself be Mew’s punching bag. He needs to take all the hurtful words and actions and hope at some point there can be some forgiveness. Again, I have no idea what I would do in Mew’s situation. I feel like it’s possible he could take Top back (I mean it’s classed as a BL right? So, chances are they’ll come back together by ep 12 unless there’s a 2nd Season or something). He clearly still has feelings for Top, thinking about him at the bookstore and his little ‘why’d you have to be an asshole’ and sad eyes while sat on the kitchen floor. And it’s also apparent Top fell for Mew and regrets sleeping with Boston. However, I’m still wary of him because of certain behaviours of his in earlier episodes. The Boston thing was shitty, but there was a degree of manipulation and misinformation from Boston. Top just ended up being weak and did something incredibly stupid there was no way of taking back. It’s some of the more possessive type behaviours that bother me, though honestly, Mew isn’t exactly a pushover so maybe I need to start forgiving Top a little bit too… that is assuming him having an envelope full of money ready to hand over was pure coincidence *narrows eyes*. I’m glad he bailed Ray out but I can’t help but keep being suspicious of Top. Like what was his little glance and expression after handing over the bribe? Just him being all shady because he’s bribing a policeman, or some smug ‘you owe me’, or satisfied with himself because it was all part of a plan? I dunno. Top’s expressions are often hard for me to read to be honest, I want to start thinking well of him, but guess we’ll find out soon enough if there was anything more to the situation with the cops than an unfortunate (and fortunate in the end for Ray) series of events.

The last scene between Top and Mew got me feeling two ways. One, I think it was incredibly sweet and responsible of him that he took care of Mew. But, two, as much as a hug can be great and comforting, I feel he crossed a boundary by snuggling up to a passed out Mew, considering they are currently not together. I don’t know if we’ll see Mew waking up trouserless and in Top’s arms and get a reaction, or if Top will have moved away from him/left, or skip past all that (seems Boston and Atom scene is a continuation of the same night in the preview). But yeah, I know he loves and misses him and is probably struggling with his insomnia/trauma now he’s alone - maybe that’s why he seems a bit more subdued because of lack of sleep - I hope he hasn’t returned to drugs or even abusing the (what I assume were) prescription ones. I just think in that moment he should have kept to doing only what was necessary in caring for Mew - stick him in the recovery position in case he pukes again and watch over him from afar or at least the other side of the bed.

And continuing the whole crossing boundaries, let’s hop back to the start again and Ray and Sand. That first scene between them outside the bar got me in the feels. I felt so bad for Ray as the hope fell from his face about them remaining friends. He was losing what had become his happiness and relief from the shitty on repeat cycle that had been his life. I get why Sand is doing it and certainly feel bad for him here too. Like I said, I don’t feel like Mew and Ray are anywhere close to claiming to be together, more testing the waters and as Ray said, Mew had let him step out of the friend zone. It really felt like he was saying ‘unlike you and me’ to Sand. I’m not ignoring Sand’s feelings, I’m all for him cutting ties with people or things that cause him pain. He’s doing it for his own benefit, and because of his ex he does his best to guard his heart, it just sucks that in doing so and keeping (or more like struggling to keep) Ray at a distance at every chance meant Ray’s feelings never got a chance to move on properly from Mew. I believe he was trying to until things got shook up by Boston and then Sand’s own desire for revenge on Top. Ray, even up to this point, is the one to ask of Sand is okay, if he’s okay with their ‘friendship’ and Sand always claimed to be, shutting down the chance of any kind of conversation about the possibility of anything beyond ‘friends’ - emergency staff, friend, fellow human being, nothing to do with me, I care about you and so does your dad. I feel bad that they never got a chance to explore things properly and god the ‘Let me go already’ line cut deep. (The preview gives me hope that Sand might use all his words this next episode - but shall wait for all the context as wouldn’t mind a proper clarification on where Ray and Mew stand with each other if things were to happen between Ray and Sand).

The Plug and Yo situation go me all, nooooo. I would say it was nice to get a scene from them but why’d it have to be this one? Well, I know why in terms of mirroring feelings and stuff with our main couples. It did hurt though, and apparently, made Ray forget that Sand was trying to step away as he turns up at the music room. Sand is the one Ray wants to tell about his day in court. Honestly, it’s kind of like a little kid excited to tell their parents what they got up to at school that day. Ray upped his ‘na na na’ game with cute little knee pokes. I’m a weak woman, he had me at the first poke. I saw Sand smile though lol. I know there was some behind the scenes stuff posted by staff that had kids, so wonder if we’ll see them carrying out the community service together. We ended on Sand’s little dunno/whatever shrug lol.

And so, we’re back at the party. I started off feeling bad for Ray over all the Mew stuff. He’d gone along with the cigarette early, the party and what I can only assume is Mew wanting to try drugs. In a way it’s probably better Mew do it with Ray and in a reasonably safe place if he’s insisting on trying all these new things. Ray, I assume, knows to a degree what he’s doing with the drugs and was there to check Mew was okay, at least at the start of the party. It was clear by Mew’s face he didn’t feel enough for Ray to want to kiss him. Ray’s hope though was reignited slightly when Mew took hold of his hand and led him down to the party. Drink and drugs kicking in and the appearance of Top and well… once more feeling bad for Ray. Mew stating he only cares about himself now then kissing Ray in front of Top… ugh. Everybody is hurting and then going on to hurt other people. I’m kind of hoping this’ll be Mew’s lowest point and he can start building himself back up next episode, but I don’t know considering the preview. He doesn’t seem to be out with Ray and being hit on by someone and then seems Top took a page from Ray’s book this episode in regards to cockblocking Mew lol. It’s all good fun.

And then yeah, Sand and Freddie. The guy seemed really sweet actually. Also, being bi, it was nice to hear Sand say he was too. But then in barrels coked up, drink in hand Ray. Wasn’t feeling bad for him at this point as he had no right to do what he did to Sand. I get he’s high, confused as hell about his feelings for Mew and Sand, not at all satisfied with his situation with Mew who seemingly kissed him and vanished as Ray is all alone and Mew is later. Once again, but not to the same erratic degree as the birthday party, fuelled by drugs and drink, Ray got mean and was lashing out. That’s a reason, but not a justification. He did wrong and I’m glad Sand told him so. Sand is capable of saying no. Up to now, I believe he’s given in because he wanted to and Mew hadn’t been in the picture beyond Ray’s lingering feelings. The current situation with everybody though, no, I agree with Sand wanting to put his foot down, no matter how much I want them to find a way to be together happy.

What happens between them is up to them. Some people are not built to deal with people with mental health issues or addiction. Sand can’t stop caring, and when the police arrive his first thought is to find Ray despite what went down. I can understand that. Having woken to a tirade of abusive messages from someone I knew who was an alcoholic, past my initial surprise and trying to work out what I’d done to deserve such messages, I was very much concerned and wanted to make sure they were okay. Though I relate to Ray a lot, I also share some of Sand’s traits when wanting to take care of others, even above taking care of myself at times.

That scene with the cops though. I’ve seen enough news reports about what can happen and seeing a knee on Ray’s neck and Sand calling for him to stay still was pretty scary. Ray’s slow crumbling as Cheum spoke, to him crying out and breaking down was heartbreaking. I still don’t know if it’ll be enough for him to admit he has a problem though. I’m looking forward to seeing how we move on from the mess of this episode.

Okay, and now for a section on Cheum. If you’re a Cheum does no wrong and OMG she’s the bestest friend ever kind of person feel free to skip this last part, because though I don’t think she’s all bad, I was annoyed by some of the things she said this episode. This is just how I felt. I know others think she was right to say the stuff she did and, like I said, she’s not all bad and some of her points are valid, but this is me mostly getting off my chest what irked me.

The first scene of her watching Ray and Mew, all I got from this is that she was jealous that Mew was spending more time with Ray than her - April even said, he’ll come back to you when he’s had enough. He. Just Mew. Because apparently fuck Ray. The way she said since being with Ray, Mew was skipping class and drinking all the time. Now, hold up, is Mew skipping because of Ray or is it because he’s not used to drinking and so feeling ill the next day. Is Ray skipping too with Mew? Did he used to skip? Does she even care? As far as we’ve seen, Ray drags his hungover ass into class, be him nearly falling asleep at the front of class, or face planted on his desk. Obviously, we don’t know if he always makes it in. They’ve been uni friends for 4 years (haven’t figured out if anyone was friends beforehand as it seems they all live reasonably close to the university - Mews parents owned the apartment he moved into, Ray and Boston seem to live in their family homes, and Cheum/Atom work at that café hangout place so might be family owned) so we’re jumping into this group of friends not aware of everything, so who knows how often Ray skipped, if at all. She also mentioned Mew wasn’t picking up her calls. Like, if you’re that worried go and see him. You were round his place post-birthday party chaos so not like you don’t know where he lives. Hell, if he won’t listen how about remembering Ray exists and cares about Mew and maybe try talking to him about how you’re worried. Ray had hints of being concerned over the cigarette and trying to reassure Mew at the bookstore that he was fine the way he used to be. Maybe together you could have tried supporting Mew instead of coming across as jealous.

And then her talk with Top. Again, some good points in there but also once more she sounded jealous about Mew hanging out with Ray too much, plus also - We used to stop him (Ray). You did? When? Look I get they’re at university and drinking and partying is part of that experience but saying you used to stop him means you know there’s a problem, right? I know we can’t expect others to give things (alcohol) up because of someone else’s problem with it and they’re university students so still learning about life and can’t be expected to do everything right. I just feel like even two years in the past after Ray’s bath tub moment, they’re drinking and she’s shit-faced. As Ray is enabling Mew, they’ve enabled Ray by continuously surrounding him with alcohol. I don’t know. I’ll say it again, we’ve only seen a small part of their 4 year course and time together so… maybe I’m too harsh, but this is how I felt at the time about what she said.

And then, inviting Top to the party. What was the reason you said Mew was changing when you were talking to Top, Cheum? Oh yeah, Top. Yes, yay, thank goodness he was there to deal with Ray and Mew’s bad situations, but I doubt seeing Top made Mew drink any less, in fact, I’m pretty sure it only made him drink more.

I shall pop it in here that I agree with her calling out Ray for using drugs at the hostel. It’s a business and he needs to remember that.

And then the lecture when Ray is caught by the cops. I agree both he and Mew need to call it quits and address what they’re doing to themselves and others. But to lay all the blame on Ray yet again… Being friends (with Mew) was good enough, did she happen to give Mew the same criticism being as he opened up the opportunity of being more than friends to Ray? The hostel - he never wanted to run it with her just something to do with Mew. Mew was the one making plans for Ray’s future, because I doubt Ray thinks about life past the end of his next drink to be honest. Mew seemed to be the driving force behind it, Ray and the others pretty much just let themselves go along with it. Plus she was happy enough spending Ray’s dad’s money for the pool party she wanted to have.

Ugh. Maybe I’m too harsh. It’s probably my protective instincts over Ray heightening my annoyance with her. When Ray’s functioning day to day and has a semblance of control on his life, Ray is sweet but needy, especially around Sand, and clearly cares about the people around him. Drunk and high as a fucking kite, he’s either an ‘I love you guys’ idiot or can be cruel if his emotions have been put through the wringer and he’s lost and confused. He needs help and it’s hard to watch at times.

Anyway, a couple more hours and we’ll see what comes next. Please, a little less pain this week.

[autisticbokutoenthusiast]

raymew in episode 8 reminded me of sedated by hozier

mainly “just a little rush, babe / to feel dizzy, to derail the mind of me” and “darlin, don’t ya, stand there watching won’t ya / come and save me from it? / darling don’t ya join in, you’re supposed to / drag me away from it”

[thatgirl4815]

I don't think Ray only likes Sand because he takes care of him, but I do think Sand's caretaking habits have become inextricably intertwined with everything else Ray might feel for him. Ray is predisposed to form potentially unhealthy attachments based on his personal issues...that being said, I don't believe Sand's efforts to help Ray when he is in trouble or even just his attention itself are wholly responsible for why Ray wants to keep him in his life. Otherwise, we wouldn't have so many scenes highlighting Ray's interest in Sand's life.

The concert, Sand's dreams, the music store, Sand's parents...all of those are bits of Sand's life that Ray took the time to pay attention to, to care about. He was eager to go with Sand when Sand thought his mom was in trouble. He asks him about his dreams. The attention isn't always on Ray. The fact that Ray genuinely seems to care about these things says to me that it isn't simply about Sand's attention on him. Ray cares for who Sand is as a person--but he's selfish and self-absorbed and messed up, and that means that all that care is buried under an impulsive, possessive need.

The context of their situation is important too. Losing Sand is a very real threat, even if Ray doesn't always want to admit that. This leads to outbursts of petty anger and jealousy, and those outbursts are unhealthy exertions of control. Ray wants to take back Sand like a possession, but I think that's just how Ray's fear manifests and explodes--I don't believe he truly views him as such. It's why we see him say so many hurtful things while inebriated, but when he's sober he looks at Sand like he's his whole world. That distinction makes a world of difference for determining how Ray truly views Sand in and amongst all the combatting emotions he's feeling.

[jenyifer]

I love Boston and he deserves Nick.

I get a lot of flack for having the chaos boys as my favorite duo of only friends. Sooo allow me to rant about my reasoning here. I get a lot of ‘ohhh you must like the sex scenes bet you like VegasPete’. No… actually… Sex is just a part of adult life. Im personally not interested in dick but I do like my characters to be realistic. Being promiscuous doesn’t make you an evil person. That isn’t my lifestyle but I can respect people who live that way. What I love about Boston is his confident persona that clashed with his smart cunning underbelly. I don’t think he’s malicious or narcissistic. Boston is a confident gay man who is loyal to his friends only. Now you might say wtf to that understandable but in Boston’s head he has done nothing wrong except let Nick get too close. Top is like him and in his logic Boston called dibs. He knew he’d be there for Mew when things went down but he didn’t expect everyone to find out about him and top. Boston probably thought he was accelerating to the end to protect his friend. I think this is also why he tells Sand Ray’s ass is fully owned by Mew. In Bostons mind he was helping Ray cut the bullshit. Boston is honest 90% of the time which makes him our most reliable character. AND YET WE HAVE YET TO REALLY GET HIS POV we know so much about him without being in his chaos mind. Do you know how impressive that is? We can also see Boston change from the start of the series being heavily effected by his fights with Top Mew Nick and Ray. He isn’t a 2d boy who falls in love and magically is fixed. While I think he knows what his feelings for Nick mean He intellectually has made the decision to reject him which makes me want their relationship to work out even more.

As far as Nick his oversteps are pretty normal for someone with too much tech knowledge on his hands. Yes it’s wrong. But terribly tempting when you have access to it and see how the world regards privacy as a fiction. I like how Nick tries his best to not fall for Boston it’s extremely endearing. Nicks heart wins out every time. I’ve been in have relationships with people that others say “hey that person is trash” but to me I like to look beyond the surface. Everyone has their own motivation. Everyone has their own struggle with social things so… it’s not fair to judge someone too quickly. Sometimes you click with someone forever changed with the touch of a hand. It’s not some fairytale. Nick wants to see Boston be happy and for him to actually see Nick is at his side. No matter what Boston does. Because regardless of other people their spark remains. Unfinished and true. Honest and Nasty. Chaos.

Together Boston and Nick make eachother better. Boston looks outside himself more often and Nick gains confidence. They do balance eachother out. I don’t feel like one is really the hunter and the other is the prey. They are both Savage it’s just Nick is quieter than Boston so gets out in the shadow. I’m excited to get to the point where they are both chasing eachother and hit into one another again.

[moghedien]

obsessed with whatever this weird ass romance arc they're in is

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[hyp-no-tic]

THIS EPISODE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED "SAVE SAND"