I think fans want Jason to be a good person or be becoming one. To have a character that is well meaning and compassionate but decided murder is ok and to stand against main heroes whoās beliefs and actions go against the people he cares about and wants in his life. Itās confusing for people. People want their fav characters to be happy. But Jason canāt have his familyās support and follow his moral code. Heās cares about people and Gotham, and heās an asshole who kills. Itās messy. Itās not black and white. I donāt even think Jason cares about being a good person or in the right anymore. I think he cares about what will save the most people instead.
Oh my goodness gracious Iāve been bamboozled
Batmanās definition of Good is not synonymous with absolute good/right no matter how much dc insists it is. Torture, battery/assault, surveillance, those are all condemnable actions too. I wonāt get into the exhausting and frankly dumb debate of comic book morality wrt killing because Iāve already reblogged plenty of posts from other people who explained my thoughts on the matter far better than I ever have the patience to sit down and articulate. I also just think the notion that thereās something to be done about fictional characters who kill nazis and senseless murderers is stupid. Jasonās point is that the āmainā heroesā sanitized definition of right has its unaddressed holes and flaws which ultimately result in more preventable fatalities, and that heāll work to correct those missing spots.
He doesnāt not care about doing whatās right. What he doesnāt care about (at least during his Winick characterization) is whether Batman thinks heās right or wrong, because he sees the flaws in Batmanās methodology (and since he has a mind of his own). Batmanās methods alone cannot address Arkhamās revolving door and the rogues that come and go through those doors who have no intention (or capability from the doylist pov) of ever changing or undergoing redemption. Jason knows that heās minimizing the number of preventable deaths by killing his targets, typically Characters Who Simply Do Fucked Up Shit Just Because, Why The Fuck Not?
Secondly, Jason is compassionate ā¦ to a fault. That was his fatal flaw. If he wasnāt so hell-bent on saving his potential birth mother he just met from that bomb despite everything she did to him prior, he could have protected himself instead, however slim his odds of survival were. What about his relationship with his other parents? He was a caregiver during his early childhood years for Catherine, until her death. Even mature adults who are financially stable find being a caregiver to a dying parent to be extremely burdensome on their bodies and minds, but he never complained about it or resented Catherine for being unable to care for him. Despite how none of his parents have really been what he needed them to be, he doesnāt blame them for their failings, and even continues to think highly of them (Bruce included).
And post-death? Enter Lost Days. Despite being dead set on plotting his revenge on Bruce, he constantly sidelines this in order to save other victims who are helpless like he once was. His own anger, trauma, and mission donāt remain his priority. (Sound familiar? Something something my own trauma above my sonās, mission above all else, etc.). Why would he waste precious time and risk his own life to do this if he wasnāt empathetic towards these victims or didnāt care about doing the right thing. He is simultaneously horribly traumatized and full of rage, and also incapable of ignoring whatās happening to victims around him (even as he claims that itās indeed not his priority). And in that same vein, the entire premise of his rebirth outlaws run was that he doesnāt care if the public views him as a villain, an outlaw, so long as he can protect Gotham. And anyway where is this portrayal of him not caring about being in the right anymore. Almost every modern Jason story is about him grappling with where he stands with Bruce/Batman. During the early 2000s was probably the last time he did not care (hello, tentatodd??).
Jason has very evidently been portrayed as a kind and compassionate character. He is also simultaneously a calculated killer who doesnāt hesitate to kill when he deems necessary, and does so without remorse. Itās called being a Complex Character With An Edgeā¢ that as you said, people so often claim to love. However when he fulfills that latter part, that seems to upset people because ākilling badā, and they then try to shave off and round out all his edges and claim he shouldnāt be that angry. In that case I guess you should just stick to liking traditional one-dimensional characters instead of claiming to like Jason but then encouraging his character assassination attempt by dc. Lol.
Lastly, who said anything about the batfam making Jason happy? Just because heās written nowadays to want acceptance from Bruce (a shoddy attempt at forcing a non-existent nuclear batfamily), doesnāt mean that itās a sound decision or that it does his character justice. I certainly donāt empathize with the idea that Jason needs the familyās approval or acceptance to be happy. (And anyway he has enough outlets for angst and pain aside from the batfam hello explore his other sources of trauma and do more deep dives into how he thinks when heās alone). I donāt want them to magically make up and become one big happy family. This is not disney Lol. Besides, there are plenty of stories from dc that have that type of āwholesomeā (hate that word utilization) characterization for Jason (Liāl Gotham, Tiny Titans, wfa, and even new stuff like the brave and the bold mini) and that is sufficient imo. Jason fans who are invested in the character deserve accurate, nuanced characterization and well-written stories, whether they be from his robin days (e.g., Batman: The Cult) or as red hood.
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Vanessa showing Mike the picture of her holding Garrettās toy airplane:
Mike: āoh my godā¦ā
Vanessa: āI swear I didnāt knowā
Mike: āYouāre Garrett?!!!??ā
Vanessa: ābut I-ā¦ wait what?ā
Mike: āI canāt believe this! Youāre Garrett! Iāve missed you so much!!ā *starts hugging her and happy crying*
Vanessa: āWhat? No. Iām not Garrett, Mikeā
Mike: āohā¦ rightā¦ of course..ā *lets go of the hug*
Vanessa: āthank youā
Mike: āI suppose you go by Vanessa now!ā
Vanessa: āā¦.ā
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