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mroutrage · 4 months
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someone please write this fic for me
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madootles · 7 months
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dramatic eyes. dramatic lips. drama on the cheeks.
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tchotchkez · 6 months
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🏳️‍⚧️ luffy is the ally we all deserve* 🏳️‍🌈
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chibi-scone · 5 months
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So that new Rhys Darby interview about s3 ….💀
#SO FUNNY#straight up saying that stede would be unhappy with the inn and leave Ed’s ass to go back to the crew ….y’all were so back#that the inn is a fantasy not meant to last and the British would be after their ass#like Ik djenks already said that the inn wouldn’t last but#put next to him also saying. that the inn is meant to be a happy ending + taika saying Ed and stedes ending is good#and he wants to leave it there#girl …..#just genuinely so funny#that s3 could go full historically accurate and kill both of them at the end#like I don’t even care anymore dude just do it#after how shitty their fans made us feel for being upset about Izzy#I would feel so fucking vindicated#no guys don’t you get it it’s a good ending for them :)) and it’s not bad gay rep to kill your main gay couple#because there’s other queer couples in the show!! stop crying you media illiterate babies they’re pirates pirates die :)))#I can taste it already#this is gonna be tbd cause wtv I just wanted to shoot the shit a little about it uh yeah#ofmd critical#honestly if they kill Ed and stede at the end of s3 that might just be what gets me back into the show a little#like I don’t really want to rewatch the show at this point but if it all goes down the gutter in the end ?#that’s different#it’s like ordering food and being served mouldy garbage vs willingly jumping into a dumpster#everytime a new interview or smtg comes out I’m like 🫣#it’s reaching spn levels of ‘what now’
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illgiveyouahint · 7 months
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stizzysupremacy · 7 months
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“Every hole is a goal”
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soldier-poet-king · 1 year
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I picked up the gentleman's guide to vice and virtue from the library because I wanted smthn light and fun and sure why not a book with the premise of youre on the grand tour of the continent in the 18th century and also youre in love with ur best friend, because I love all of those things
But like. It actively made me cry? Which is perhaps not THAT difficult of a feat, but like, there's a lot of things to make me emotional here. homophobic child abuse, alcoholism and trauma and self loathing disguised as being an irresponsible rake, 15 yr old spinster sisters who want to run away from finishing school, actually addressing period typical racism for ur mixed race love interest instead of handwaving it all away, issues of disability and forced institutionalization
Like yes it IS a ridiculous little YA romp with alchemical panaceas and wild goose chases across Europe and PIRATES and it IS mostly just a fun time, but I didn't expect to have like Actually Genuine Real Serious emotions about it
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sugaryhoneymoon · 10 months
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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN??
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lacefuneral · 7 months
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when i release my stede is femme comp y'all better appreciate me </3
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it’s a crime that british people (me) only have (non-pirated) access to ofmd now because WHY HAS THE LITERAL EPITOME OF QUEER REPRESENTATION BEEN KEPT FROM ME FOR THIS LONG?!
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lesbiradshaw · 11 months
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it's funny to look at DC (the comics & animation side at least) vs Marvel when it comes to 🌈🌈🌈
b/c it's been years since harlivy was made canon and they still get viral social media attention & fanarts + lgbt cast w/ names ppl actually recognize, then there's marvel whose execs (allegedly) send angry emails when pride flags show up in a background of a popular release + their lgbt rep almost never shows up/gets focus and most audiences can't even name them
very true lol. the mcu especially has done a shitty job especially at showing characters’ queerness on screen and even if they do portray it it’s in a way that can be easily edited out or written off BUT for the record these are my canonically queer marvel favs. deanoru, ayoaneka, and america chavez you will always be famous!
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stag-bi · 2 years
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i keep trying to follow more ppl on here bc a few yrs ago i followed like. 230 blogs, and now its down to 120 somehow, and my dash moves SO SLOW. but when i do follow someone, even after careful deliberation, 5 minutes later i see them reblog some of the worst takes ive ever seen and im back to square one. i swear for every 3 ppl i follow, i unfollow 4
especially when the blogs are centered around bisexuality cause they seemingly cannot for the life of them stop posting absolute braindead bi vs pan discourse
#yesterday i followed someone and just now they put a post on my dash#saying 'white queers stop celebrating renewal of ofmd when AMBER HEARD is literally being shat on in court'#'YALL LITERALLY DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT WHITE MEN KISSING :eyeroll: :eyeroll: :eyeroll:'#like......... SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPP WHAT THE FUCK?? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABT HGFHGHG#i cant take it anymore. and i actually LOVE well constructed discourse and discussion#its just the way its conducted on tumblr is just. Abysmal. Abhorrent#i no longer want any part in discourse that uses guilt tripping and shaming ones interests as ammunition#i literally have to be told by other ppl that its ok for me to enjoy self indulgent stuff#bc of how this shit has made me hate myself and the fact that i have special interests as an autistic person#not that OFMD is a special interest for me. but its a show i felt ashamed for liking for some reason???#nadia keeps having to call me out for not letting myself enjoy stuff#and i love her for it soooo much#having to unlearn shame and self hatred in regards to my interests is precisely my biggest task in unlearning ableism#so when that internalized ableism and self hatred for my interests is weaponised against me#part of my journey to self acceptance is throwing that shit out the minute i hear it#interests can be criticised! and i personally do critique my interests EXTENSIVELY#esp in relation to my being a white nordic european etc#but not to the point of 'having this interest/enjoy this thing is shameful of you and something to hate abt urself'#when its like. a largely unproblematic tv show abt gay pirates#i refuse to be guilt tripped and i dont do performative activism in response to being guilt tripped
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so,, i meant to watch heartstopper when it first came out, but i didn’t… then i started it in june.. and then i finally finished it today…. anyways, 10/10, very good, made me garble incoherently at how cute it was, i’m feeling all the gay feelings now 😌✌️
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hydra-collector · 2 years
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hot take but i dont think the solution to disney as a corporation is to never watch a movie or show that comes out of them ever again. these are real pieces of art with worth created by real people with the passion to create entertainment, and the fact that it has the disney brand doesnt automatically strip that away
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The more hate I see the more I’m going to love OFMD. This show means so much to me. A show of pretty much all queer pirates written primarily by queer people is not something I thought I’d ever get to see. To see middle aged people first discovering their queerness on TV is incredible. I see myself in Ed, Izzy, Stede, Jim, Zheng, so many of the characters. I wish we could have had stuff like this on TV when I was a kid/young adult, but even watching it now has helped me a lot with recognizing I am genderqueer.
Trying to pretend any part of this show is homophobic or being shown in a cis het lens is a joke. This is a show about queer people made by primarily queer people, and just because it doesn’t fully match your queer journey doesn’t mean that’s the case for everyone. You don’t have to get or relate to everything in the show, that doesn’t mean no one else will. It is NOT a bury your gays trope when literally everyone in the show is gay. You can dislike a show or a plot point or a character without calling everything homophobic.
Grow the fuck up honestly.
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dragonmuse · 7 months
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Keep It In The Box : An Essay on OFMD Season 2 and the Failure to Heal
(here in is my season two reaction. It contains many many spoilers. It's also about 3k words long so you know what you're getting into.)
“See, I have a system for dealing with all the terrible things I've seen. There's a box in my mind, and I put the things in the box..” -Frenchie, Season 2 of Our Flag Means Death
…..and then he never opens it. Chekov’s locked box has no key in season two.
On first watch, it seemed clear to me that Frenchie’s declaration was a narrative plant. Clearly the whole season would be about that box of pain and trauma being opened, sorted through and at least the beginning of healing. The show had developed a reputation after season one of being kind and focused on queer narratives of healing from childhood. Ed and Stede’s parallels in their childhood traumas were frequently on display through season one and were repeated in flashback throughout season two. Jim’s season one arc about becoming someone who doesn’t think just of revenge and can now forge meaningful connections was profound, beautiful and often funny. Izzy is an antagonist because he doesn’t want Ed to move on or stop acting like the trauma-response version of himself. The antagonist wants to stop healing. The point is to grow, to change, to learn how to love. It’s one of the things that made season one work for me at the time, despite reservations about pacing and tone.
So naturally season two should follow suit. It’s a kind show! About healing and falling in love!
For the first several episodes, the remaining crew on the Revenge go through a gauntlet of trauma, forced to do and receive violence at Ed’s whims as he careens from self-destructive behavior to self-destructive behavior. This is the wounding setup. It was dark, but it seemed like it would have a payoff and at first it did.
Perhaps one of the most beautiful moments of the season comes in one of the small respites in those early episodes as Jim recounts Pinnochio to Fang to soothe him through his grief. That was the show that I expected. The kindness of that moment struck me very deeply. It gave me some understanding of Archie too, who seems to fall for Jim right at that moment.
That scene is the show season one promised. Season two led with packing Frenchie’s box full to bursting. Here is the fight to the death between lovers, there is a first mate who is mutilated and rotting in the very walls (the rot of the Revenge itself), and there is the storm of Ed’s rage and pain that threatens to consume all of them.
So surely these remaining episodes would concentrate on finding the humor in healing from those moments. That is the setup. Frenchie has a box. The box must eventually open.
Except time and again, all the characters who suffered are told that the only way to deal with what they’ve been through is to stick it in the box and never open it again.
Pete tells Lucius that he’s unable to move on and needs to let it go. Izzy has a story about a shark. Ed’s apology to the crew which doesn’t even contain the words ‘I’m sorry’ is just…accepted. I kept waiting and waiting for a meaningful apology to the people Ed had hurt the worst with his actions, but it seems all we get is Fang saying ‘eh, no problem, I got to hit you back so I feel better’.
The playful theme of ‘pirates are just violent sometimes’ from season one becomes a grinding horror machine in season two when every atrocity visited on someone is forgiven because the narrative needs it to be. Ed and Stede spend more time making amends with each other over the bloodless night on the beach than either of them spend trying to repent for their actions towards anyone else.
And let’s talk about Ed. Arguably this season pivots on his narrative, on his path to healing and growth. A path that starts at a very low point. His moment in the gravy basket, deciding he wants to live because there are still things to live for is so great! So one might assume that what would follow would be him pursuing those things, making amends, making connections. He and Stede have a wonderful moment, talking about being whim prone and how they’ll work to avoid that, build a relationship by going slower.
Yet, at no point do either of them stop following whims. They never heal or learn from what’s happened to them. They both keep running from thing to thing, particularly Ed. It’s a whim to sleep with Stede, it’s a whim to run off to fish, and the finale gives us just more of their whims. Ed drops fishing as fast as he picked it up. He finds those leathers in the ocean, murdering the symbolism of leaving them behind. Even the inn is a whim, one of those things Ed decided he’d be good at without evidence. And Stede joins him in that without a single on screen conversation about it ahead of the moment.
Ed needs to heal himself and to do that he needs to confront what he’s done and do the work to heal the wound. Instead, he doesn’t meaningfully apologize to anyone, besides Stede and Fang. Despite Izzy’s dying words (we’ll get to that), not only do we never see the crew caring about Ed, working to make him family in the same way they do with Fang and even Izzy, he also doesn’t choose to stay with them. So what is the point? Where is the healing? Or does even Ed, beloved main character, have to live with it all stuffed in a box?
He ends the season in the leathers he threw away, in a relationship that’s barely stabilized, going to live in a house which we are told by the narrative (in that they are very very clearly paralleling Anne and Mary with Ed and Stede or why do we even get that whole Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? episode) will only end in them setting fire to each other to stay warm.
But Vee, I hear you cry, it’s a ROM-COM. This is all meant to be ha-ha funny and you are taking it so seriously!
Cool beans. Then why the hell isn’t it funny? Healing is often filled with comedy because people deal with pain with humor. You can heal and laugh at the same time. The finale especially is almost entirely devoid of laughs, almost entirely devoid of joy until the last minute for that matter. The episode that should show off with a flourish how far everyone’s come, mostly serves to show that no one has grown.
Okay that’s Ed. I want to talk about Lucius next. Our former audience surrogate (that’s taken away in season two when he doesn’t get enough screen time to perform that role and no one takes his place) really goes through the wringer. He experiences many many terrible things, including sexual assault (which is made into a grimace-laugh line that doesn’t take away from it’s seriousness because oh hey, that can be done as it turns out). He’s nervous, he’s smoking, it’s clear he’s suffering.
There’s a beautiful moment where Pete tells him ‘hey, I was also in pain. I grieved’ and that’s great. It’s good that Pete sets a boundary about Lucius not obsessing over the past to the point of occluding their future.
We even get our comedic moment where Lucius pushes Ed off the boat (still not apology, but I’d lost hope for that by then) and that doesn’t help enough. So Izzy comes in with a shark and the advice that you just have to move on.
Just…you know. Play pretend. Forget.
Shove it in a box. Ed didn’t take my leg, a shark did. Ed didn’t kill you, a shark did. Live with the person that tried to murder you because it’s your fault you dangled your leg over the side of a boat. That is the show’s message. I thought on first watch, that surely this would also come back up and be explained that you can’t live that way, that that is no way to heal. That it would become clear that this was no way through. You cannot make everything into sharks.
Lucius can move forward and still carry pain. He can still want a meaningful apology and still want to talk to his lover about what he’s dealing with while moving forward toward a brighter future.
And what of the flirtatious promise of relationships and connections being the way to heal? Look to Oluwande and Jim, whose heartfelt romance from season one was relegated to the bins of history in favor of a narrative that made him a brother Jim once had sex with. They could have had Archie AND Oluwande, who in turn could also have Zheng, but that never seems to be an option. With a single short conversation, they are broken up with, despite a brief tease at the birthday that they still ‘dance’ together, it never actually manifests. Jim and Archie never talk about what they went through. It’s swept under the rug as fast as knives are lowered.
Lucius also no longer flirts with other people, the solution to his pain is to propose and get married (but not too married, lest we forget that they’re two men, they don’t even get to be husbands or even the more respectful mates, no. They’re mateys.) This season proposes that the only happy endings are monogamous ones, where no one talks about anything painful that went before.
To ensure that message, beyond assuring the success of Oluwande and Zheng’s relationship, Jim and Archie almost entirely disappear from the narrative. Sorry you guys were given layers of trauma and no growth and not even much to do this season, we need to make sure that everyone remembers Oluwande is the break in Zheng’s day so when he says that to her five minutes later we know exactly what he’s referencing. No time for Archie to learn what an apology is or for Jim to get one line in with Oluwande that isn’t affirming their newfound broship. Must do more flashbacks to things we just did two episodes ago!
The show even dangles the conversation of the Revenge being a safe space. Why would any of them ever feel safe when the man who tortured them is allowed to walk among them and they are expected to forgive and forget? What’s safe about that? The ship is never made safe for any of them, but that’s never addressed.
And Zheng! Amazing, hysterically funny Zheng! She loses her ships, her entire way of life, the kingdom she built for herself and then…she doesn’t even get to captain the Revenge. We don’t know what becomes of her fleet, of her plans, her ambitions. Don’t worry about it, she has a romantic partner and isn’t that what every lady wants in the end?
(But Vee, I hear you cry again, there will be a season three! Maybe it will be All About Zheng! To which I say: then why did they present us with the most series finale feeling episode ever? If there’s more, I have no idea where it’s going. BUT VEE: BUTTONS AS SEAGULL ON THE GR- Fine. It’s time.)
Let’s talk about Izzy Hands.
Izzy manages more healing than anyone else this season. He reaches his lowest point, suicidal in the bowels of a ship that’s become a prison (very much in contrast to Ed’s suicidal low). The person he loves most in the world has shredded him physically and emotionally (and if you’re in the camp that thinks Izzy deserves the abuse that Ed gave to him, I would really like you to sit quietly with yourself and ask why you think there is ever anything anyone can do to deserve that treatment). He’s low, he shoots Ed to protect everyone, and then seems to plan to drink himself to death, mourning his losses.
And then another beautiful moment! The crew move past their own pain to help him. They work together for the first time and it’s to give Izzy mobility back. He treasures it. He cries over it. He uses that kindness extended to him to reach a new understanding of Stede and help him succeed, doing the work to make real amends. He sings in drag, he’s vulnerable and beautiful, celebrating the side of himself that he must’ve loathed in the first season. He’s an elder queer man, coming into himself.
He never gets an apology though. (‘Sorry about your leg’ without eye contact is not an apology. There is no responsibility taking, no acknowledgement of the weeks of torture that came with it.) Izzy also never really has an honest conversation with anyone about what it means that the man he loves punished him so severely for the crime of trying to protect the crew (yes, lest we forget, Izzy lost his leg because he was trying to keep Ed from re-traumatizing the crew and himself).
Izzy does all this work, but even he’s not allowed to take it out of the box. It’s a shark, not Ed. Ed is just ‘complicated’ (the language of abuse here is so upsetting and I think not even intentional).
And then he dies. His last act? To apologize to the man who tortured him and shot at him. To have done all this work, to take on all the blame. And then die.
In a rom com.
This show ends in a profoundly unfunny moment of telling the audience: this is the one character that did the work, that made amends, that tried his hardest to accept the parts of himself that he had a hard time embracing and formerly embittered him. He’s fully accepted his queerness and turned it into beautiful music. He’s disabled, and he worked hard to accept that. The man he loves will never love him back, so he worked hard to make Stede able to meet Ed on an even playing field. The Giving Tree gave up its limbs and its trunk, and it’s not even allowed to be a stump to sit on.
Kill the queer elder, who has managed to figure out how to live and in his own way how to heal. Kill him before he manages to teach anyone else how to meaningfully move forward (he almost gets it with Lucius, almost, but it’s meant to be rule of three, you know. Cigarette..shark…and then…and then fuck it, Lucius doesn’t even get to say a word at his funeral).
The message of this season again and again is that there is no healing, just moving forward. Like a shark. Like a bird that never lands.
That is not a kind show.
Season two is not a kind season.
It splinters people up and jams them back together without purpose or reason. It tells everyone who experiences pain that they should shove it in a box and not deal with it. No one who really needs one gets an apology of any sincerity. No one puts in the work to gain forgiveness. (Ed wearing a onesie is not The Work. Ed fixing a door is not The Work. Ed broke people that the show wants us to care about. Ed never does the work of making those amends. He fires off a Notes app apology at best. After all, it’s what he told himself via Hornigold in the gravy basket: you move on or you blow your brains out! Good thing he took his own advice and therefore had to change nothing to get his just rewards.
I would’ve taken just fifteen minutes of Ed trying to actually make amends. It could’ve been hilarious! Imagine awkward Ed trying to dance around what he’s doing with Jim and the two of them having a knife throwing competition about it. Or him and Frenchie attempting to make music together, writing a song about the raids they went on! It’s not just the crew robbed of their healing because of this, it’s Ed himself. He never meaningfully changes or makes amends. How is he any different at the end of the finale then he is standing on the edge of that cliff with Hornigold? He hasn’t moved on, he hasn’t healed. He tried one thing (fishing) that doesn’t fucking work and then he runs right back.
No one leaves this season better than they went into it. They’ve lost an elder queer, they’ve lost their joyous and queer polyamory, they’ve lost a chance for meaningful reconciliation with Ed and Ed lost any chance of looking like he gave shit if they did. Stede grows enough to accept the crew’s beliefs as important and then leaves them behind without a care.
Izzy gets a beautiful speech about piracy being larger than yourself. Ed and Stede, within twenty minutes of that speech, leave piracy. They are incapable of giving themselves to something bigger, apparently. They haven’t learned to be a part of a community. They haven’t healed from their childhood trauma or their fresher wounds. They are still just following their own whims.
Zheng’s life work is in tatters, but it’s fine, she has love. Oluwande and Jim aren’t together, but it's fine because they both have dedicated monogamous partners. Lucius was deeply scarred by what happened, never recovers much of his first season personality, but hey he got-well it’s not married exactly- but you know good enough!
Frenchie, who has a box forever locked in his head, is captain. Because the key to success is to lock it all in a box and never open it. What a message. What a show. Conceal, don’t feel. Smile because it’s a happy ending. Don’t mourn the dead, don’t try to tell people what happened to you (they will literally run away or cry too hard to listen and really you’re just bumming them out), and any meaningful change you make is only rewarded with death.
Frenchie is now a pirate captain with a box in his head full of trauma that’s never been opened, leading a crew with more wounds than scars. Wonder how that could turn out? Wonder how many years before he might want to retire and then happen to run across a gentleman pirate. As if no one learned anything at all.
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