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solartranslations · 3 years
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AF2 Common 12/28: A Long Night
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Even if they’re somewhere new, what doesn’t change is the time they spend at the bar. …It’s the start of a long night
~*Scene: Nordia Bar*~
Pace: So gooood! I’m so glad Nordia has lasagna too
Debito: Ahh, that hits the sport…Nordia has the best drinks
Luca: I can’t believe you two…a client is coming to meet us soon. Be professional
Debito: What for. I thought this was a friend, not a client
Pace: *eating*…Debito’s right! Wouldn’t she actually get mad if we acted that way?
Luca: Maybe, but…
Felicita: Who is it? A friend of yours, Luca?
Luca: Yes. You met her the other day. It’s Agata
Felicita: Agata is…
Debito: Don’t worry, Bambina. She is strict, but she won’t do anything while over a meal
Pace: Huh? She’s scolded me while I was eating before. Agata’s whip sure is painful
Agata: That was because your behavior required discipline. I don’t raise my hand to others without reason
Pace: Uwah!? Agata, when did you get here? Don’t scare us like that
Debito: Our guest of honor is finally here. You’re late
Luca: Sorry for calling you out here when you’re so busy
Agata: I don’t mind. I wanted to talk with you all too
Agata: It’s been so long since we were all together. Debito, Pace, Luca, have you all been well?
Pace: Of course! You still got your whip, Agata?
Luca: Pace, don’t be rude! That’s no way to greet someone
Debito: You could show us if you wanted. It’s been a while after all
Luca: Debito! I said not to be rude!
Agata: Haha, you really haven’t changed. They sure must be a handful for you, Luca
Luca: Yes, dealing with these two certainly is
Pace: Really? I thought Luca was the handful. Right, Ojou?
Felicita: Um…
Debito: Yeah, Bambina’s definitely had it the hardest. You tell her how much of an airhead your attendant is
Luca: Are you trying to say that my head is filled with nothing but air?
Luca: It’s not true. I think a lot about Ojou-sama, but not air…
Pace: Same thing, isn’t it?
Debito: Yeah, it is
Luca: It’s not!
Felicita: You all need to settle down…
Agata: You all are causing trouble for your lady. Pay more attention to those around you
Debito: Wow~, nice one, Agata. You haven’t lost your touch at all
Pace: Your whip sure is quick, Agata. …It’s scary though
Felicita: Um…thank you, Madam Governor
Agata: Agata is fine. No need for titles. I regret that we couldn’t talk more the other day
Agata: So I was excited at the chance to talk to you now. There’s no need to be humble, just act as usual
Felicita: Thank you, Agata
~*Scene: Nordia Bar VIP Room*~
Felicita: [There was a room for special guests in the back of the bar]
Felicita: [We were able to talk freely there]
Agata: So tell me, why did you call me here?
Debito: Well we had to say hi to you since we came out to Nordia after all this time. It’s a courtesy, right?
Agata: You’ve got guts to talk about courtesy. There’s more to it, right?
Luca: Ah, it’s nothing too important…we just wanted to see you, that’s all
Agata: —Let me put it this way then. Are you curious about the contract with Vir that I mentioned the other day?—
Pace: Why are you bringing that up? Didn’t you say you couldn’t talk about it?
Agata: I just thought it’d be a dull and pointless topic to end things on
Agata: Anyway, I have things I wanted to ask you too
Agata: If that girl with Vir really did hurt Sumire, then I can’t stay quiet about it either
Agata: It won’t sit right with me until I hear the whole story
Luca: Agata… you don’t need to worry about Mama
Luca: Though she did suffer some shock and will need to recover with rest
Felicita: We don’t know why Mama got hurt. But…I don’t think Neve is the kind of person who would do that
Agata: Right, Neve. I know of her too
Agata: Sumire is like a little sister to me. I understand why you’d blame Vir, and I have no intention of sticking up for him
Agata: But for Nordia, Vir is—
Agata: Someone we need. The basis of our contract is that Vir lends us his power
Agata: So we can’t lose him, no matter what…
Agata: I’ll say it again. I won’t get in your way. But I can’t help you either
Agata: I’m under that contract. It’s to protect Nordia—
Felicita: If it’s to protect Nordia…. Can we help with that in any way?
Pace: Yeah. If it’s something Vir can do, we might be able to help you instead
Agata: No, it’s…
Luca: You can’t talk about the details of your contract then
Debito: Any more talk is pointless. I have an idea. How about we play a game?
Agata: A game? What kind?
Debito: Chess. We used to play it a lot, right?
Agata: Hmph. Looks like you’re all quite desperate to get information out of me
Debito: As you know, I’m the kind of person who doesn’t do anything without a good reason. And I’d still only do the minimum
Agata: Huh, interesting
Agata: The masquerade is soon. We should have a match for the tournament on its last day
Debito: Then let’s make a deal. The loser will have to do one thing that the winner wants
Pace: Huh!? Should you really promise that? Every time we played against Agata before…
Agata: I’m surprised you’d bet with such high stakes against me…
Agata: Hm… did you forget our games in the past, or are you that confident you’ve improved?
Luca: Debito…are you sure? Do you have a plan?
Debito: No I don’t. It’s just the only way I can think of to get any information
Agata: Having the loser listen to the winner’s request is too obvious. You just want information on Vir, right?
Agata: How about this. The loser will tell the truth about what they’ve been hiding. You’ll be witness, Felicita…
Agata: We’ll use “The Lovers”
Felicita: You want me to use “The Lovers” to see if you’re telling the truth…
Luca: I see. Even if it was a lie, Ojou-sama’s powers will see through it
(*smirk) Debito: I’m fine with that. Let’s get started
—And then—
~*Scene: Nordia Bar VIP Room*~
Pace: Yay! Haha, I won!
Felicita: Amazing, Pace! Even Debito and I couldn’t win…
Luca: It must have been his animal instincts
Agata: I truly didn’t think I would lose. I underestimated you
Debito: Since we won, we’ll be asking the questions then. Pace, what have you got?
Pace: I’ve been curious about something ever since we started playing
Felicita: Curious…?
Pace: Yeah. We never told you about Ojou’s powers, right Agata? So how did you know that she can use “The Lovers”?
Felicita: Right
Luca: Can you tell us, Agata?
Agata: That’s simple. I heard about them from Vir. That’s all
Luca: It was from him? But we never told Vir about her powers
Felicita: Yeah, I don’t remember saying anything
Agata: You didn’t have to. He knows everything about the Tarocco…
Pace: Huh? Is Vir really that smart?
Debito: That’s not what you should be impressed about
Agata: He knows about the Tarocco you all host too
Luca: …Just how much does he know?
Felicita: Who exactly is Vir?
Agata: Vir has formed a contract with “Agata” to protect Nordia for generations
Debito: Protect it from what?
Agata: A great storm that occurs once every 100 years, “Acqua Tempesta”— (TN: storm water)
Agata: It causes much greater disasters than when a normal acqua alta raises water levels (TN: when high tides cause flooding in Venice etc.)
Agata: And Vir protects Nordia from that threat…as is our contract
Pace: But that doesn’t make sense. Vir still looks so young…
Debito: Don’t be dumb, Pace. She said it was for generations
Debito: She just means he inherited the name “Vir” like she did with “Agata”
Luca: He’s right. Even if we don’t know how old he is, a person can’t live for hundreds of years
Luca: Probably, I think…
Agata: …Yes. You’re right
Debito: So the contract you made with Vir was that he’d protect the city from the Acqua Tempesta…now it all makes sense
Felicita: So that’s why Agata says she can’t help us
Agata: I had no choice but to keep it a secret. But it’s just as you say
Agata: The next Acqua Tempesta is in January…when the New Year comes, the whole town will be washed away. We can’t stop it on our own
Agata: I will protect Nordia no matter what. It’s my reason for being “Agata”—
Felicita: Your reason for being “Agata”…?
Agata: If we survive this Acqua Tempesta, the next one will be in a hundred years
Agata: In that amount of time, I can persuade my people to move elsewhere to safety
Agata: And if technology advances enough so that we don’t have to, all the better
Agata: Time brings change and progress. But, time makes people forget as well
Agata: I wasn’t able to get my people to believe me in time
Agata: The burden I carry from my ancestors is heavy—
Felicita: Agata…
Agata: People are like pawns in God’s game
Agata: And right now, I’m a failure at carrying out my duty as a pawn
Debito: Saying that’s not like you
Pace: Yeah, it’s like you’ve gotten old, Agata
Agata: Idiot, just say I’ve matured. I’m only old enough to be your sister
Luca: You’re older than Mama though
Agata: …I thought you were a genius when you were younger, but now I know you’re just normal. Well, maybe not. I see you have a one-track mind with your Ojou-sama
Luca: Um, why am I the only one you’re saying that to?
Pace: Why don’t you like hearing that? Being obsessed with Ojou is something to be proud of!
Felicita: Pace, I don’t think she means it in a good way…
Luca: It definitely isn’t praise!
Felicita: [Agata shoulders the responsibility of Nordia and its people. No matter how hard it is, she doesn’t give up and tries to find a way]
Felicita: [Agata is strong…that’s clear to me. I want to protect Regalo too, so I send my thoughts out to its people…]
Agata: Isn’t there anyone besides Pace who can challenge me?
Luca: You’re just too strong, Agata. Strategy games like this are your forte
Agata: You’re not wrong. I couldn’t be governor if I wasn’t
Felicita: Agata…I want to play another round with you
Agata: We’ve already seen the outcome, so no. Maybe another time
Felicita: …Please?
Agata: *sigh*… Children are so tiring. If you were my son, I’d have brought out my whip
Pace: You did that to us too before
Debito: Yeah. No mercy at all
Luca: Then, how about you play against me next? Is that alright?
Agata: Yes, let’s give it a go
~*Scene: Nordia Bar VIP Room*~
Luca: It’s been so long since I’ve played chess with you, Agata
Agata: Yes, it has. And just like before, only Pace would be able to win out of the three of you
Luca: I think I’ll be joining him this time. I will win
Agata: I can’t believe you can say that while looking at the board now. Your king and queen are cornered
Luca: This is where I turn things around
Agata: Haha, very interesting
Felicita: Luca’s good at chess?
Pace: Hmm, he could get pretty far but…
Debito: Yeah, but he could never finish it. Neither of us have ever won against Agata
Luca: If I take this pawn next…
Agata: That won’t work, unfortunately
Luca: Wha?
Agata: Checkmate
Debito: Oh well. Luca lost
Luca: Another loss… You certainly are strong
Agata: Those who think too hard about their actions won’t win against me. But people who act on instinct are harder to read
Agata: I’ve won this time…but you were the ones to ask questions during the last round
Agata: I know. I’ll give you an opportunity
Pace: What opportunity?
Agata: You can do it when I’m not around, but answer one of Debito’s questions
Luca: We’ll answer Debito’s questions…?
Debito: Huh? What’s that about? I didn’t ask for you to give me your prize
Agata: Luca, you are a very stubborn man. You try to maintain balance even while fooling yourself. It’ll be easier if you break that just once
Luca: ……
Pace/Debito: ……
Agata: I will take my leave then. You all can do as you wish
Felicita: I should probably go too…
Debito: …Yeah, let’s go. I’ve got nothing to ask anyway
~*Scene: Nordia Street*~
Pace: Wow, it’s totally dark out. All the shops are closed too
Debito: It’s not that late. And isn’t this when grown-ups really start having fun?
Luca: Only for you. And if that causes you to stay in bed until noon, I think you need to reevaluate your priorities
Debito: It’s not your problem
Luca: It is. The Coins are always…
Felicita: !?
Luca: That person getting off the gondola is…
Pace: It’s definitely Vir
Debito: Perfect. We’ve got business with him after all
~*Scene: Nordia Waterway*~
Vir: Hm?
Luca: Haaah!
Vir: *laugh*…
Luca: He knocked away my attack!?
Vir: It looks like alchemy hasn’t advanced one bit
Vir: It’s the same as it was 400 years ago. No, it’s actually gotten weaker
Luca: …!
Debito: I guess Agata meant what she said literally
Pace: You mean when she said she’s known him for 400 years?
Vir: You really thought such a small flame could capture me?
(*click) Debito: Nope. These are the real goods
Vir: That’s quite the greeting. Hm? Your right eye…
>Debito Route
>Pace/Luca Routes
Vir: What a nice gem. It should last you the rest of your life. Perhaps I should sell some in my store
Vir: But, that amethyst won’t last much longer. Do you have a replacement ready?
Luca: Why would you know…we don’t need your concern. I have a replacement
Debito: Tch, you really do know everything…
Vir: That gem was made with alchemy. Is it your creation?
Luca: …
Vir: You’re even better than your teacher. You couldn’t have made that if you hadn’t watched him for so long
Vir: I’d love a gifted student too. Will you join me?
Luca: I humbly decline
(Luca: Because I have Ojou-sama) (This line is Luca route only)
Vir: Unfortunate. But, it seems those two do need you too. Now then
(*shing) Felicita: You aren’t getting away
Debito: We came all the way from Regalo to capture you
Pace: Yeah. Finding you here makes things a lot faster
Vir: Didn’t Agata tell you? You can’t touch me yet. This is Agata’s city. You aren’t the law here
Vir: And I’m not someone you can catch that easily
Vir: Haaa!
Dodge!
>Hit
(+10 Amore)
>Miss
(-20 Amore)
(*dodge) Felicita: Hah!
Felicita: Ah…
Luca: Ojou-sama! Watch out!
Luca: … L’Armonia della Luce!
Vir: Haha, you can run if you like. I’m not in the mood to fight you today
Felicita: Well I am!
Vir: Stubborn aren’t you…fine then
Debito: You’re fighting me too. So don’t turn your back!
Felicita: Debito! I’ll cover you!
(*whish) Felicita: Yah!
Attack!
>Hit
(No Amore)
>Miss
(-20 Amore)
Vir: Guh…
Vir: That’s all you’ve got?
Vir: You have to mean it if you’re going to attack me. And you won’t catch me anyway
Pace: If you’re just going to run away, doesn’t that mean you’re actually weak?
Vir: I’m running for your sake. If you hit me with your powers, punishment will befall you
Felicita: Punishment…
Debito: You’re not going to trick us with a joke like that
Vir: Is it really a joke?
Pace: If you won’t attack, then I will!
Pace: Hyaaah!
Vir: Hah, that won’t hit me…
Debito: Didn’t I tell you already? You’re not just fighting one of us!
Debito: Hahaha!
Vir: Those bullets won’t work on me. I’ll just erase them
Felicita: No you won’t!
(*whish) Felicita: Haaah!
Attack!
>Hit
(+10 Amore)
>Miss
(-20 Amore)
Vir: Guh…Right. You’re here too
Vir: Where are you aiming?
Vir: …So tiring. This is all the time I have for you today
Vir: Haaah!
Luca: All of you, get away from Vir!
Luca: I’ll block his attack, so get behind me!
Felicita: Right…!
Luca: Guh…
Vir: See you tomorrow then
Felicita: Luca! Are you alright?
Luca: *panting*…Yes. I’m sorry. It’s been a while since I’ve fought that hard…
Debito: I am interested in one thing he said
Luca: ……
Debito: He said “You couldn’t have made that if you hadn’t watched him for so long”
Felicita: …
Debito: If this hadn’t happened, I never would have asked…
Debito: Back then…who’s side were you on?
Pace: Debito…
Luca: I…
Debito: Honestly, I don’t care what the truth is though
Pace: It feels late bringing this up now, but I’ve been hiding things too
~*Flashback: Back Alley*~
Pace: Um, because of a special trait of my Tarocco, I––
Pace: I can only live until age 30
~*End Flashback*~
Pace: I guess Debito’s been the most honest out of us
Debito: Shut up, Pace
Pace: I guess the best thing is for Luca-chan to come clean and for us to give him one good hit for hiding it?
>Luca, I want to know too…
>I think you should tell Debito and Pace
Luca: Ojou-sama…
Luca: Right. I never was good at keeping secrets
Luca: And I didn’t plan on hiding it this long either
Luca: It might make things easier if I just told the truth…
Luca: I don’t know if hearing this will help them
Luca: But I think it will be better for me
Luca: It hurts to keep this a secret. …I just want to tell you
Luca: This is the opportunity that Agata gave us
Luca: I’ll tell you…about the secret I’ve been keeping
Luca: Back then, I had a lot of feelings that I had a hard time putting into words
~*Flashback: Bedroom*~
Debito: Uw, ahhhhh!
Pace: Debito!? Where are you?
Luca: I can’t see him…but I can hear him. Are these Debito’s Arcana powers…?
Debito: *panting*…
Pace: Ah! There’s blood near the bed… Debito, are you there?
Debito: Uaa, Pace…
Luca: If I could see you, I could neutralize your powers with mine, but I can’t touch you like this
Pace: Ah! I see him! Debito, can you hear me? Debito?
Debito: ……
Luca: He’s not conscious. And his right eye is bleeding…he hit himself on that pillar…
Luca: Hurry, Pace! At this rate, Debito will…
Pace: But where should we…
Luca: We’ll take him to Jolly
~*Flashback: Alchemy Room*~
Pace: Jolly! You have to help Debito!
Debito: Guh…ahh…
Jolly: …What happened
Luca: Debito’s powers are out of control. He struck his eye against a pillar…
Luca: He settled down after losing consciousness, but he hasn’t woken up yet
Jolly: His powers…
Pace: Jolly, what’s going to happen to Debito?
Jolly: He’ll die if we don’t do anything. He must not have the emotional strength to handle his powers
Luca: …No way
Pace: I don’t want Debito to die! Since you experiment all the time, can’t you save him!
Jolly: …I have an idea. But I can’t guarantee that it will work
Jolly: Do you still want to save Debito?
Pace: Of course we do!
Luca: Yes…
Jolly: Good. I’ll get started
Jolly: We’ll put this gem in Debito’s right eye. It will amplify his emotional strength to make up for what he lacks
Luca: An amethyst…
Pace: You’ll stick that in him!?
Jolly: He won’t be able to use his eye anymore either way. This is better than dying
Debito: Ahhhhhh….!!!
Jolly: This should last for a while
Pace: Thank you, Jolly
Luca: Thank you
Luca: Jolly…
Jolly: Pace already left. Was there something else, Luca?
Luca: I know you saved Debito…but will he really be alright like this…
Jolly: Hmph, I don’t plan on leaving this be. You’ll be paying me back for saving him
Jolly: …How about this. From now on, you’ll have no contact with Debito or Pace
Luca: Wha…
Jolly: Or you’ll help me with my experiments again. It’s an equivalent exchange. You’ll pay me back one of those two ways. The choice is up to you
Luca: …I…
~*Flashback: Bedroom*~
Pace: Don’t worry us like that, Debito. I told you not to push yourself
Debito: Yeah, but I had to. I’m not good at staying put
Luca: Calm down, you two. Debito’s awake, and that’s all that matters
Luca: I’ll be going now. I’m doing a little favor for someone
~*Flashback: Alchemy Room*~
(*knock knock)
Luca: It’s me
Jolly: Come in…
~*End Flashback*~
Luca: My…heart was always with you two, but I was acting on Jolly’s orders
Luca: I stayed to protect you. But, it’s true that I was still observing you as directed by Jolly too
Luca: I wanted to protect you, but still felt guilty. I thought protecting you was my duty
Luca: And it’s why I feel so conflicted into inaction now
Luca: And then, Ojou-sama’s powers went out of control
Felicita: …!
Luca: I was ordered to live with Ojou-sama, and went to that small house with her and Sumire-sama
Luca: I had a peaceful life there. And that’s when I realized that I was making up for what I did to you two…
Luca: It’s because of Ojou-sama that I found the strength to accept myself
Luca: It’s thanks to Ojou-sama…that I realized what I should protect
Luca: I’m the weakest one out of us. I just couldn’t live on if I lost even a single one of you
Felicita: Luca…
Luca: ……Is that all you wanted to know?
Felicita: Luca…!
Luca: Wah! O-Ojou-sama…
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Debito: You shouldn’t be crying at your age
Pace: Yeah. You’ve hit a milestone so you really should grow up
Felicita: Luca, how could you keep smiling before now?
Luca: Because…you all…were with me
Debito: Oh get a grip! Pace, let’s throw Luca in the canal!
Pace: Okay! Heave-ho!
Luca: *bubble bubble*…
Felicita: Luca, are you okay!?
(*splash) Luca: *cough*…
Debito: Yeah, he wouldn’t drown
Pace: Yup. That’s his punishment from us instead of getting hit
Debito: Yeah I figured
Luca: You weren’t going to let me get washed away, right!?
Debito: Okay, let’s head back
Pace: Oh wow Luca, you look just like Dante. Let’s go, Ojou
Felicita: O-okay…
Luca: Can you at least pull me out of here!!!
~*End of Scene*~
(Continue to Common Route December 31 (Pace Route)) Coming Soon!
(Continue to Debito Chapter 4)
(Continue to Luca Chapter 5)
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blakespace · 3 years
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you like idv right?? still?? idv?? if you're doing whole lists for it. idv.
kinda! I know I said on twt that I feel like getting back to it but I kinda. didn't pull through hfsdjkgn. still gonna do this though
blorbo: Clive Martha scrunkly: Victor, Luca scrimblo bimblo: Emily glup shitto: Edgar poor little meow meow: Joseph <3 horse plinko: Lucky Guy eeby deeby: Kreacher.
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I cannot no more with all these rumors and accusations with Lucas scandal. Ppl are really digging up his private life - family, money, etc. and exposing and sharing it on twt, weibo. (i don't use weibo as i am not Chinese nor understand reading it) BUT WTF!! THAT IS SO UNCOMFORTABLE TO READ. like imagine MILLIONS of ppl digging up your past and exposing them on the internet just bc of one stupid scandal (50/50 true or fake) you had.. Poor Lucas... yes if he did that all of those things, it is def wrong and he has hurt others and himself for it too but ppl really need to get over it. Stop adding more fuel to the fire. He apologized, move on with your life and let him heal and fix his mistakes
That is true. Regardless if it's true or not, people are going overboard into his private life sasaeng style and it is extremely creepy....
Honestly, I would say the best we could do is let it die down (since SM won't do shit), kinda like stays did with Hyunjin.
But considering how antis are creating more and more outlandish rumors, I'm pretty sure us not speaking out against them and defend Lucas would probably turn out worse....
I'm just tired.... Can SM please speak out!!
I'm genuinely terrified of going to sleep and waking up to something even worse tomorrow....
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thedispatched · 3 years
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Here's the other translation: twitter. com/lucaseuburger/status/1432218626967277570?s=19
Although it seems like the weibo post itself has been debunked by other twitter users: twitter. com/GAST53889634/status/1432632372260966407?s=19 and twitter. com/fuhcault/status/1432397996071604227?s=19
I've been taking these new "info" with a grain of salt. Honestly, on twitter it's a "war of information" at this point. I can't tell who's being genuine, who's being being delusional and who's being vile now.
first link if anyone wants to read
i saw this one before, but it was a reply to the original tweet i found so i took it as the person just rewriting what they wrote as i saw some people not fully understanding the wording they used.
second link if anyone wants to read
i've said this before and i'll say it again. i never understood how the twt user got the connection that poor fanbase management = lucas being innocent. the cbar has nothing to do with his behavior towards the girls and i'm glad the second link said that also.
(i'm gonna say this based on what the user said) just because some people were irresponsible, doesn't mean everyone is. no one likes to be blamed for things they didn't do, right? and if it's normal for every bar then why act like it's special to just lucas? stop misleading people. and if it's not even being talked about on weibo then why keep mentioning it?
i've said this before also, when you don't know a language you rely on translators and that leads to a lot of mess. you don't know if they're lying or not.
i'm honestly trying to stay away from the lucas talk on twitter as much as possible cause like you said it's a war of information. everything, in my opinion, should be taken with a grain of salt.
it's always hard to figure out who's being genuine, delusional, and vile. that's the hard part of these things. what are everyone's intentions? the best we can do is keep looking and hope something comes up as well as not be so easily swayed.
thank you for the links anon!
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super-nuko · 4 years
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Here, your salty fairy Lucas
I draw this last night. Don't know what's gotten into me, but I think it's cute. Poor ezekiel, even in his dream lucas is salty as ever TwT
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x-exo · 4 years
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wait what happened? i dont have twt
-taeyong saying he cant see lucas bc of the poor light (aka bc lucas skin is darker) and bbh laughing at it
- irene apparently being a b*tch to staffs, being outted by one of them and then releasing an apology post
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berniesrevolution · 6 years
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JACOBIN MAGAZINE
Last week’s Labour Party conference in Liverpool was in some regards an ordinary party affair. The conference saw inconclusive battles over party reform, set-piece policy announcements, and fudges over Brexit, all presented to the rest of the world through the misleading lens of the British tabloids.
Yet if many delegates went home with the traditional “conference flu,” the Liverpool summit also reflected the dramatic changes that have taken place under Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership. Efforts to democratize party structures remain an ongoing battle, but what was most notable is the new life that Corbynism has breathed into conference itself.
The Times’s Daniel Finkelstein complained that in Corbyn’s outlook, “devolving decision-making to the party conference is a key part of the project to restore power to the workers.” And he’s right. After decades when members and trade unionists were shut out of decisions in Labour, this year’s conference showed how they have taken back control.
Conference
Conference’s role to direct party policy and indeed Labour MPs has in fact been in dispute throughout the party’s history. While Britain’s other main parties emerged as factions in Parliament, rather than mass-membership parties, Labour has its origins in series of trade unions and small socialist parties. They together formed a Labour Representation Committee (LRC) which then sponsored Labour candidates for Parliament.
If the LRC was based entirely on these “affiliate organizations,” individuals were soon allowed to join the local Constituency Labour Parties (CLPs), and over time these members came to dominate the grassroots life of the Labour Party. Even today, however, conference is still conducted in effect as a vote of a mass of affiliate organizations, large or small, with votes split 50/50 between CLP delegates and the others coming from the trade unions and the so-called “socialist societies.”
Despite these underlying structures, throughout the party’s history the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) — the bloc of Labour MPs at Westminster — has in effect been sovereign between conferences. While a separately elected National Executive Committee (NEC) charts their progress over the course of the year, this imbalance has brought problems wherever Labour governments disregarded the often more left-wing economic policies passed by conference.
For evidence of this we need only look at the Labour governments of 1974–79, an experience which has major implications even today. Cabinet’s disregard for the radical economic democracy of the 1974 manifesto led to the formation of the Campaign for Labour Party Democracy; in subsequent years this theme would loom large in the deputy and leadership campaigns waged by the party’s then most prominent left-winger, Tony Benn, himself an inspiration for, and ally of, Jeremy Corbyn.
This reached its high point in the 1980 conference which saw sweeping victories for the Left on both party structure and policy. After this a pattern settled in where CLPs would normally send delegates from the Left, the PLP would support much more right-wing policies, and the unions operated in between the two. The Left won on policy such as opposition to European integration and support for nuclear disarmament, but the party’s core structures normally remained unchanged.
Eventually this allowed for the right of the party to turn back the tide. The Blairite turn of the 1990s and 2000s, changing the party’s agenda toward the neoliberal center, was accompanied by gradual moves to strip conference of its policy-setting role. This was noticeable in the creation of the National Policy forum, a toothless organization specifically designed for the purpose of imposing policy on the membership from above and to obstruct scrutiny by conference.
In these years, conference became less and less a parliament of the movement and increasingly a place where unaccountable MPs could engage in corporate networking and announce policies to TV cameras over the heads of a passive membership.
Corbynism
The surprise election of Jeremy Corbyn in 2015 has, however, helped restore conference’s central role in Labour Party life. Corbyn, a man steeped in a Bennite tradition, promised to take the democratic decisions of Party members and sister unions as sacrosanct. It is also important to remember that the Labour leader’s traditional levers of power and influence, from think tanks to corporate advisors, are unavailable to Corbyn; if his predecessors often relied on parliamentary patronage, he has in the past been no-confidenced by Labour MPs. Conference, involving the wider membership, thus provides one of the few areas where Corbyn’s agenda can expect a high level of support.
The fact that this resembles the energy of the Labour conferences of the 1970s and 1980s is, sadly, also grist to the mill of the many journalists who are themselves stuck in the battles of yesteryear, and who enjoy painting the party’s life in the colors of that era. Hence the lurid depiction of Stalinist politburos, Momentum thugs, and hard-left union barons preying on the poor old MPs who are only trying to do their jobs. In reality, despite the energy of conference, its outcomes, and its compromises, are often rather less dramatic.
This isn’t to say there has not been a decisive shift left. Plans for workers’ control unveiled by McDonnell, including provisions for worker positions on company boards and mandatory dividend schemes for companies with over 250 staff, are far to the left of any Labour program since 1983. As for foreign policy, the Liverpool conference saw a lively debate on Gaza; one delegate Colin Monehen became a social-media hit thanks to his speech taking place against the backdrop of a sea of Palestinian flags on Conference floor.
Away from the main event, thousands of conference delegates were also energized by The World Transformed (TWT), a festival of left-wing ideas which saw its third sold-out year. This saw sessions focusing on potential avenues for socialist advance, from a review of the 1980s experience of municipal socialism in the Greater London Council, to a session on the “Lucas Plan” for transforming production in a socially useful direction, and even a debate on the politics of fighting “In and Against the State” in a session addressed by Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell.
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