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Random thoughts on Vice Versa ep 11

I should preface this by saying that I am making a distinction with my thoughts this week between the show's narrative choices (which I am quite disappointed with) and their design choices (which I have come to appreciate and I talk about in my other ep 11 post).

At first watch, this ep didn't have the impact I thought it was going to...and that is reflected in the fact that I only wrote about a quarter of the amount of notes during the ep as I had done with earlier eps. But let's go through them...(be aware, I do a lot of ranting, so take it all with a pinch of salt 😄 I still love the show despite my negativity here - I wrote this mainly on Sunday morning when my emotions were still high.)

The ep started strong, so strong. I had to pause immediately when the 'one day earlier' popped up. I thought, 'This is it! We get to hear/see what happened with the portkey stuff. We'll get to know more about Tess and Pakorn!' - HA! little did I know... Anyway, Jimmy was amazing in the ambulance. This time he woke up it was much better. And maybe he was trying to portray the difference between Puen waking up here and Pakorn waking up at the end of ep 10...but the latter didn't really work. Anyway, I thought it was super interesting that Pakorn 'drowned' for him and Puen to switch back...but then nothing came of it. No mention of it, no acknowledgement that it was how Talay had switched originally. That would have been a good parallel to explore more.

I was initially happy to learn that Pakorn did indeed experience what the 'lore' says -> he dreamed, he went to the location (the swimming pool) was accidentally punched, fell into the water unconscious, almost drowned, and then travelled back to his own universe. And that's why Puen travelled. BUT I am super annoyed that we didn't discover/weren't told whether a) Puen also dreamed the same time as Talay (i.e. are they really portkeys?!) or b) Tess dreamed the same time as Pakorn (i.e. are they portkeys or not?) Why, of all the things that happened in this ep, why was this not addressed?! This is one of the MAJOR plot points of the series - the universe hopping and the portkeys needed to hop back. WHY did we not learn these things?! (The show had better redeem itself by telling us this in ep 12).

Ok, now for something good...potentially the only thing mind you - I love how Puen and Talay have had all these different ways of communicating throughout the show -> the writing on the back, the mouthing of words, the messages on the helmets (maybe I've forgotten some)…and now Puen tells Talay his name by writing in the sand. I thought this was a wonderful continuation of a motif in the show. Oh why couldn't more of the ep have been like this...

And now back to the rant... I CANNOT believe Pakorn and Talay didn't take a moment to fill each other in on what had happened in the past two years. Damn if it had been me I wouldn't have let Pakorn go until I knew something. The same goes with Puen and Tess -> Puen had so much time and so many opportunities to just ask Tess what had been going on. BUT NOTHING! (Or it happened 'off-screen' and wasn't important enough to show it).

"Why did you give me an hourglass?" Thank you, Talay, for asking the question I did after ep 9… And the response was great but I don't see why they needed to wait until ep 11 to show it. "Though we're apart, we will meet again someday and spend time together once more. Just like this hourglass. It goes from one side to the other, like our universe-travelling". Yeah, makes sense...but what else? They didn't go anywhere with this idea...

But a month!? Talay was waiting for the low tide for a month?! Was that really necessary? Like, why couldn't a boat go over anyway even if the tide wasn't low? Isn't it better to be higher? Couldn't the time obstacle have been because Talay couldn't find a boat or someone to help? And I find it hard to believe that the Friend Credits group would have just accepted that Talay was awol for a month. We could have had more of them, being supportive and seeing their new dynamic with Pakorn back (and maybe Aou and Fuse crumbs!). Gah!

BUT Talay did get back to his own universe even though I hadn't expected it so soon in the ep...

What I was expecting (ok, half-expecting...hoping...) was that Talay's brother would be another cameo...or Puen's PA...or the dude in the bathroom (did he really need to be there? It seemed like an unnecessary interaction when Talay could have already had the cinema ticket)...or even Puen's co-star...I waited with bated breath each time one of these characters turned up only to be disappointed when we didn't even get that. (I know we got a cameo of Film - the producer...but that's not the same as another actor/actress like we've had before).

AND THEN GMMTV GAVE US THE SECOND FAKE-OUT IN AS MANY DAYS. First with the kiss that was just a fantasy in The Eclipse, and then with the hug that...was also a fantasy in Vice Versa. I want this 'trope' BANNED.

From the crumbs that we got, it seems like Tess actually is a terrible person and Pakorn should stay well away from him. But this makes me want to know even more what happened between Tess and the Friend Credits group when Tess returned - so. much. potential. WASTED. (Maybe we'll get this in ep 12...?)

I felt this ep fell back weakly onto the faen fatale trope - first with Puen's PA, then with Puen's co-star - it didn't need this jealousy 'I'm not good enough for him, he's obviously moved on' self-confidence issue. There could have been enough obstacles keeping Puen and Talay apart without this. We knew that Puen had been very proactive with trying to find Talay...so we could have had a montage of them both being proactive but always just missing each other because they were both looking too hard. Why couldn't Puen call Talay/Tess' phone every day? Why did Puen think a freaking POST-IT NOTE would be enough?! There could have been a myriad of things preventing their meeting -> Tess breaks his phone. Puen tells the PA to let Talay see him if he tries but the PA decides to do the opposite. Talay gets tickets to the premiere but gets prevented from going by outside forces. Puen goes to Talay's house just after Talay has left to go to the studio to see Puen...SO MANY OTHER CHOICES.

Yes, we got the "Ai'Dang". Yes we got the reunion in the glasshouse cafe. But at what cost? It felt like the show was trying to force this 'ending' and I wasn't even surprised when it came because it felt predictable and contrived. And now the show is hinting a return to the other universe…but what about their families? And friends? And careers? What about all the morality of this that they talked about for the past 10 eps? It just feels wrong, so I hope the preview is leading us on and that they won't actually switch...but I don't know anymore.

One thing that I feel prickly about already for ep 12 is the reference to the moon at the end of the preview -> "We finally get to see the same moon". What do they mean 'finally'? At what point have they not been able to see the same moon? Do they mean the same moon as in their original universe which they missed in the alternate universe? If so, why have they not mentioned this before (or have they and I've missed it)? Or do they separate for an extended period again (but why and how in one ep?! Do NOT have a time skip, please), each having a moment under different moons for this to make sense? Why have they not peppered references to the moon throughout the series to make this an important moment? I know there's been a picture of a moon in Tess' alternative universe apartment, and I noticed Puen also has one in his original universe apartment...but that's all. I honestly don't want to wait a week to be disappointed about this as well 😂

Okay, rant over. I do still love this show but I felt this ep could have been better narratively and still hit the same beats/plot points.

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I just watched The Effect and absolutely loved it. As an SA survivor i hate how the BL genre romanticizes rape and perpetuates the stereotype that gay men are predatory and can’t control their desires, and The Effect does an amazing job at showing how rape and bullying on social media actually effects the victims of it.

The way they depicted the aftermath of Shin's SA is surprisingly accurate. The way he reacts when Keng tries to talk to him and basically basically tries to blackmail him into getting back with him with the video of Shin being raped is so real thats its haunting. And the fact that he tried to commit due to him feeling like what happened to him was his fault.

Also the fact that Keng seems like a great person at first is also really accurate. Rapists usually don’t look like someone who’s scary and evil. It’s usually someone that the victims trust that end up doing it to them and I like that they showed that.

Whenever i saw how supportive and caring Bright and Pramote were to Shin it almost made me cry. You can tell how much they care about him and I never had ppl who were supported me after i was raped so (even though hes just a fictional character lol) I'm glad that Shin had that. I also feel like it shows people who might have a friend who is a survivor how they could be more supportive.

Overall 10/10 absolutely adore it. If yall have any recommendations for similar BL series that deal with darker subject matter id love to hear them cuz im js getting into the genre.

(Also Brimote best ship)

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Vice Versa the Series Locations Masterlist

- Talay eats with his friends after bombing his job interview

- The hospital that Talay wakes up in as Tess

- Gyo brings Talay to the airport to welcome Puen back

- The bar where Tun works part-time

- The Association of Thai Citizens in the Alternate World headquarters

- Talay tries to find the person who is his portkey + Friend Credits has a group meeting about their movie

- Talay and Puen go to meet their potential port keys at a park

- Puen, Talay, Som and Prae go to test if they are each other’s portkeys at a maze

- Puen and Talay follow a pair to find out if they are dating or not + Puen goes to the bookstore

- Talay tries to talk to Tun at the archery range

- The 26 Pictures office

- Talay, Kita and Fuse’s university

- Puen and Talay go to the set of their movie and... experience snow

- The movie premiere of Long Distance Relationship, Friend Credits’ first movie

- Talay and Mek go location scouting at Greyllery and are joined by Puen

- Pang, Puen and Talay have dinner together

- Talay goes for a job interview

- Talay meets Joe Pramote

- Puen and Talay learn about the romantic meaning of pink lotuses in the alternate universe + they go on a ride to relief their stress

- Tun’s part time wedding photographer job

- Tun's part time cafe job

- Friend Credits’ drinking place

- Talay and Puen go location scouting for a cafe

- Tess’ apartment

- Talay and Puen meet Mhok Mek

- Aou and Fuse go to a veterinary clinic to prepare for Fuse’s role as a veterinarian

- Tun’s apartment

- Talay tries to meet Puen at Puen’s company

- Puen clarifies his relationship with Talay to reporters

- Talay meets Up Tup and Aou Tou + introduces Puen to them

- Puen gets asked about his relationship with Talay during an interview for his movie

- Talay meets Tess’ friends and Puen crashes the metaphorical party

- After missing a meeting with Tess’ dad, Puen goes to apologise to Talay

- Talay and Puen go on a date

- The final cursed Lay’s ad, in which Puen proposes to Talay

- Puen reconciles with Up and Aou after missing the meeting with Tess' dad

- Talay talks to Gyo about his relationship with Puen

- Talay recounts his dreams of Kita in the other universe and what he is up to

- Gyo tries to meet Puen on Talay’s behalf

- While filming, Tun falls into the pool accidentally, triggering the return to his universe

- Joob’s memorial service

- Talay and Puen have a meeting with Mek about their movie

- One of the show’s Lay’s ads featuring Talay and Puen

- The Friends Credits team goes camping together

Alternate Masterlist

Locations I wasn’t able to identify

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[VICE VERSA episode 1 part 3]

Again, I know it’s for the sake of the script, but if someone waited TWO WEEKS before they explained how to get out of this nightmare I’d go insane

How is the “universal dreamers don’t dream” thing proven, people forget they dreamt all the time

“but if he dies, you die too” Knowing Tess’s lifestyle it’s amazing Talay made it through

Talay giving up after flashing his “come say hi” T-shirt in one (1) quiet café

The guy misunderstanding his question as a threat akdjflsdj

Nanon’s character (I think his name is Tun right?) immediately hanging up asldkf poor Talay

SOME SECURITY GUY, TAKING THE BRIBE IS BAD ENOUGH BUT AT LEAST STAY TO MAKE SURE THEY DON’T MESS UP YOUR SHIT

[PART 4]

Okay maybe you can help me here, if I’m correct Talay mistook this Pramote guy for his friend back in his own universe right? But I don’t understand why? Did he hallucinate in his desperation to go home?

WHAT, pray tell, is even ONE advantage to having transparent paper, people in this universe are nuts

Omg Talay almost unintentionally flipped that guy off practising the counting thing asjkdfldjf

Then again I guess it would mean something different in this universe

“Tun’s not coming, this place is deserted” In comes Tun

How hard must it be for an actual singer to sing so dreadfully off-key

Okay so people in this universe recognise he’s not singing correctly. Is singing off-key a talent or something???

Seeing the Ohm/Nanon interaction reminds me of something I thought watching the first time around: I’m glad they kept their interactions to a minimum so they wouldn’t make it the Ohm/Nanon show, everyone already knows and loves these two but the focus is intentionally kept on Jimmy and Sea and I appreciate that

Why did you stay on the floor so long Talay you fool

Ohm reaching for the door and Sea coming out the other side *chef’s kiss*

Idk what’s wrong with Tess, I’d L O V E to work at a film company

“You helped me at the bar” I mean I’d have to hate someone pretty fucking badly if I didn’t have the decency to do /that/

IT’S RAINING SCRIPT! HALLELUJAH IT’S RAINING SCRIPT

D… don’t you want it back Tun?

“but if he dies, you die too” Knowing Tess’s lifestyle it’s amazing Talay made it through <<<<< THIS MADE ME LAUGH SO MUCH BECAUSE YOU’RE RIGHT IT’S HONESTLY A MIRACLE THAT TALAY WAS ABLE TO COME OUT OF IT ALIVE

talay did mistake pramote for one of his friends in his universe but it wasn’t an hallucination, basically the show gives you the idea that some… bodies exist in both universe but are inhabited by different people, so in this case you have someone looking the same in the original and in the alternate universe, but in one of them he is talay’s friend, joe, and in the other he is tess’ highschool mate, pramote. idk if i was able to explain it, but the show has lots of fun with this, so you’ll find a lot more instances of it happening in future episodes, for example with someone that the viewers know is an actor in our (so in talay’s) universe ending up being a movie critic, or a veterinary, etc. in the alternate one. they never really bother to explain how this works, if everyone has a physical alternate version of themselves or not, but honestly it’s one of those things im just accepting as part of the story, i don’t really need an actual explanation for it

im kinda scared to talk about ohm and nanon in any way, shape or form because people are very.. passionate about them, and have their own opinion about their involvement in the show, which i totally respect, but personally i agree with you, i think everyone involved in the show made it very clear since the beginning that they had very minor roles in the story and that this very much was jimmy and sea’s project, so im completely satisfied with the amount of screentime they got and how their appearance always has a purpose

ONCE AGAIN THIS GOT WAY TOO SERIOUS BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT PUEN IS SHOWING UP AGAIN IN THE NEXT EPISODE SO LET THE DERANGEMENT BEGIN

also…..

“IT’S RAINING SCRIPT! HALLELUJAH IT’S RAINING SCRIPT

D… don’t you want it back Tun?”

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