#r1999 the prisoner in the cave

[abyss-idiot]

Chapter 5 New Storm Info

With 1.4 we got some more info about the "Storm." Below the read more will be spoilers to chapter 5.

Starting with what 37 has about the storm, at first we learn what knows it as and what they think of it. As Apeiron is immune to the storm and isolated from the world they have different information and thoughts on it.

Pneuma is a Greek word for "breath", but if used in a religious context it can mean "soul." (I don't know what to make of this myself.)

They put the current year as 2007, as it would be that year if the storm never happened. So that means the storm has been around for 7ish years.

Later on we learn more about the dates and the fact that 37 and her mother predicted the years it happened.

The years on the monitor are 1999 - 1996 2000 - 1985 2003 - 1977 2004 - 1930s 2006 - 1912 2007 - 1966 1930s is taken from dialog, and 1977 is brought up in the report in The Star.

This tells us a few key things, first off that, excluding the latest storm there is a pattern that was able to be used to predict future storms. The monitor doesn't have the 1966 to 1929 or the 1929 to 1913 storms, tho the latter was messed with the Manus so it may break the pattern. Other key points it gives is the years of previous storms and the fact that the storm does not just move back in time, it also can jump forward as with the 1912 to 1966 storm. It could be inferred from the Green Lake event, but not directly stated. (Side note, 37 says 7 storms, the monitor shows 6, and adding the 1929 to 1913 storm it makes a total of 8.)

[authorchia]

Apeiron's Ancient Rules/Taboos

Oh, don't mind me! I'm just gonna list down all of the ancient rules the Apeirons should follow. This was recorded by Ms. Radio, so if you're having trouble remembering, I can give you a help!

Abstain from beans.

Do not pick up what has fallen.

Touch not a white rooster.

Do not poke the fire with swords.

Do not jump over a crossbar.

Do not cut wood on a main road.

Do not enter the hall in new garments. Enter the hall from the right and leave from the left.

Do not keep swallows around your house.

Do not sleep on a grave.

Make the bed as soon as you wake up, leaving no imprint of your body.

I never been taught or researched much about Pythagoreanism, so if anyone knows history, leave a comment on what these rules are referenced!

[jorgyjuice]

i think it's really funny that regulus is the one writing back to them

[ID: digital fanart for reverse 1999. regulus is writing in a journal about her bad experience in apieron, looking angry. in a panel below, sotheby is reading the journal with an uneasy expression. druvis is passing by in the background, unaware and holding a tea cup. the artist's signature, @/jorgyjuice, is written below each panel. /end ID]

[curestardust]

Apeiron EP - "Numbers"

[takoluka-magurofever]

r1999 x hsr collab because i said so

me when trailblazers: 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[vingler-mirror]

A "Brief" Overanalysis of The Prisoner of the Cave - Reverse 1999

Babe wake up... Someone made a 1-HOUR-LONG video essay about the entirety of the Prisoner of the Cave

[socoolinmypajamas]

37 telling everyone their soul number and causing a diverse range of reactions makes SO much sense and becomes SO much funny when you replace "soul number" with "gender".

[actualarcanist]

[stari-hun]

Numbers System in Prisoner and the Cave

This arc follows an island of philosophy culture surrounding Pythagrious, where they study numbers until they discover their “soul number”, a word coined in (5.x.?), and shed your name and take on that number. 

Numbers can repeat, it’s unclear whether a person can’t have a number matching another living person, but they do repeat as started by 27. (5.?)

People are divided into categories of Integers, Fractions, Irrational Numbers, and Imaginary Numbers.

Integers are like logical people who follow the system. They are calm and undisruptive people. Integers are typically the Arcanists who follow the rules and protocols and generally have an unshakable faith in things they’ve put their loyalty to.

Fractions are those who have a sense of justice and loyalty but don’t blindly follow anything and trust themselves over others before anything. 

Irrational Numbers are people who won’t follow orders unless convinced or they personally believe it’s worth pursuing, they’re free spirits.

Imaginary numbers are humans.

[vertin-is-the-frog-guys]

some screenshots i got from chapter 5!

[thatisayouproblem]

this probably wont interest anyone but this is my wilderness:D

its a mix of rimet cup buildings and mor pankh, prisoner in the cave, uluru games and notes on shuori buildings and islands

[abyss-idiot]

Report in The Star and its info on the Storm

This is a second post about this info on the Storm from the 1.4 update. A link to the first post will be at the bottom of this one. Spoilers under the keep reading button. I know this late as hell, I kinda forgot about this and only now got back to it. Hopefully post more soon.

A quick timeline of the report in this mini chapter, it is written by Greta Hoffman and mainly is set in 1985-1987. She talks a bit about 37's mother and Sophia's father in it but it does give a tiny bit more info about the storm. The text in game will be bolded and in quotes.

"That was 1985, a gloomy, miserable night compared to that peaceful morning in 1996, when we were only bothered by confusion.

We didn’t expect time to be reversed again, nor did we understand the consequence.

Even now, I still remember Paulina’s desperate cry.  One of her hands was already inside the safe area when she fell at the entrance to the headquarters, and that was the only part of her left to us the next second.

The only legacies we found were an engagement ring on that hand and her favorite blue polka dot scarf, which we used to wrap her remains in the end."

While we did already have the dates this does give us another piece of information, if someone/something is only partially in the field only the bit that is in the safe area is going to be safe.

"In 1986, I was assigned to the office in Egypt.  All my friends came to the doc to see me off …"

This leads us into the main portion of the report, the next few bits are about Greta's time on the ship to the new place where she meets 37's mother and Sophia's father. As of now I'll be skipping those and going to where there is more info on the storm.

"After that, I spent more than half a year in the Egypt office.  Things were even worse than I expected.

Some have gone missing after the “Storm”: the people who were supposed to be in the Egypt office, according to the member list stored in the headquarters in 1985, were not there when I arrived."

As of now, I can't make much of the missing people that are supposed to be in the office. In the end its most likely not completely storm related. The bit of text also advances the year a bit.

"Before the disagreement was settled, the “Storm” in 1987 was predicted.  We were ordered to return to the headquarters 24 hours before its arrival.

But the prediction was not accomplished by Laplace.  A captive from Manus Vindictae named the precise date of that “Storm.”

Our enemy, those lunatic xenophobes valuing only pure blood, made it further than we did.

Yes, we built observation stations, we made countless deductions, we developed multiple simulation models …

We made efforts, we sacrificed life, we did whatever we could …

Yet, the result that we didn’t find any other regions immune to the “Storm” except the headquarters and another one in North America.

In the end, 95% of the branch members were reversed, 87.9% of the equipment was destroyed, and 100% of our predictions failed."

This gives us the exact year that this storm takes place, this gap of time was 1985 to 1987. This also sets the president that while the Foundation is better off in human tech and science the Manus are really ahead in understanding the storm than them. One other thing this gives us is a tiny bit more info on where is safe from the storm. The foundation headquarters, a branch in North America, Aperion, wherever the Manus set up, and the suitcase are outright stated places to be immune to the storm.

"On the same day, the first and only Timekeeper who just took office, the twelve-year-old child, returned alone from the “Storm.”

She told us the time in the outside world at that point.

And that is how I knew she was right.

“It is right in front of you.”

But, if there is a god, why are you playing such a prank on us, after we had suffered from the collapse of all existing orders and the failures of all the great laws?

If this is what she called the glimpse of the supreme existence, the moment of afflatus, do you have to present it in such a cruel way?

The last two digits in the number of the year after that “Storm” were exactly the name … and her number.

77."

The ending bit of the report gives us a key piece of information, this is the year that Vertin became timekeeper. Which also means that this is the storm depicted in the flashback portion of chapter 3. The one where the kids ran out into the storm and turned into shapes, and the same one where 37's mother and Sophia's father died to the storm. Turning into shapes.

Just like in the prologue where people turned into statues, other living things turning into comic book like drawings, and the world melting into a colorful comic book like ink, and in chapter 2 where people started to eat gold thinking it was food while they saw normal food as trash. It seems like people turning into geometry may have to do with something of that time period. As in the 1960s was the age of pop, and 1929 was the start of the great depression (even if the manus started it early) both storms seems to have something to do with the year that it takes place. Forget Me Not also mentions people's veins turned into cables in one of the 1990s storms, now I cant exactly say if this is the 1999 storm or the 1996 storm (I'm placing my bets on 1999.

[fruityfroggy]

OMG WAIT

THEY’RE SO FUCKIN CUTE WTF???

[starsilversword]

I honestly believe 37 would get mad at me all the time because my default can't think of anything, brain empty, word is BEANS.

Beans, beans, beans. Wait, does this mean that they can't eat chocolate?! Or vanilla! That's sad.

[curestardust]

37 EP - "Thus Spoken 37"

[takoluka-magurofever]

holy shit 6 is actually from the illuminati 🤯🤯🤯🤯

may 6 wanters turn into 6 havers (got lucky in my 1st 10x draw)