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cxncrie-a · 6 months
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@shadowzgather asked: (For ryoji) 💔Is there anyone from your past that you missed for a long time?, 😿Is there any one person you would sacrifice your immortality for?, 🎁Name one thing that never gets old or loses its charm for you.,💗Is there one mortal in your life you will never forget?,💕Do you think two immortals could handle one another’s company forever?,🙄How do you handle boredom and monotony?
Questions for Immortals/Ancients || Accepting
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💔Is there anyone from your past that you missed for a long time?
" Not particularly, no. I've seen a lot of people come and go and I do like to visit as much as I can but of course, I can't always do that. If anything, I miss those who have been erased from existence practically due to the exterminations. But there's nothing I can do unfortunately as much as it saddens me. "
😿Is there any one person you would sacrifice your immortality for?
" Hm, not one person, but perhaps if it means I could bring back those who were killed during exterminations I may consider giving up my immortality. Though I'm aware I have a job to do, and whoever gets made to replace me may not be as kind as I am. I'd like to continue guiding souls to give them the easiest transition to their afterlife. "
🎁Name one thing that never gets old or loses its charm for you.
" Perhaps the greeting that Heaven gives for each person that walks through their gates. St. Peter and Emily do their best to welcome new souls and I think it's quite lovely. I think it reassures those who show up. I do wish Hell had something like that instead of just having souls suddenly left in the middle of the street. I always feel bad leaving them. "
💗Is there one mortal in your life you will never forget?
" Abel. Not only was he the first death, but heaven doesn't seem to give that poor man a break. It's always a joy to see him again, but it's always heartbreaking when he dies again and gets put back in the cycle for reincarnation. He's the only one and I don't understand. I think he deserves to stay in heaven where he belongs. "
💕Do you think two immortals could handle one another’s company forever?
" I think so, yes. Though it can be very difficult. Lucifer and Lilith proved that for quite a while until .. well. But that's not my story to tell. There may be rough patches, but I do believe it's possible. "
🙄How do you handle boredom and monotony?
" Oh, I don't get bored. I meet many new people daily and sometimes get to talk with them as I bring them to their afterlife. There are cases where most don't come to until after being dropped off, but it doesn't ever get to me. Plus in my free time, I make the effort to try and talk to people when I can. There's always something new and interesting to learn or hear. "
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gwaaaaar · 7 months
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breaking my silence...
whoever told me the second half of death note was trash... YOURE WRONG YOURE WRONG YOURE WRONGGGGGG 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣 MELLO AND NEAR ARE WORTHY SUCCESSORS TO L YOURE JUST A STAN!!!!
near... sweet jesus baby they didnt deserve you !!! I was so pleasantly surprised to see how distinct he was despite people calling him "white haired L". LIKE hes a lot more cautious than L but isn't above being a sarcastic little shit and actively causing problems... i read a fan translation and he uses a lot of cuss words to refer to certain people he dislikes. I dont know if thats in the official translation as well but i do like the visual of this 7 yo saying "asshole" and "dickhead". I know hes 17-18 and this is average teenage behavior but gah hes so cute and moe and make little "vrooooom" noises when playing with his toys... 🥺 cant help but stan. Hes in his zone unbothered...
AND THE FACT HE CHALLENGES LIGHT IN FRONT OF OTHER PEOPLE SO BLATANTLY... no mind games no time for light to make his next move just fuck it we ball. Also very fond of the scene where he drops hundred dollar bills off the SPK building. He's unpredictable just like Mello is but in a different way and its fascinating i love this guy. Also enjoy the fact that his flavor of justice is that he doesnt really have one hes just doing his job. The verbal beatdown he does at the end about how lights just a crazy serial killer... GET HIS ASS NEAR !!! Hes not pretentious and its just... its just good you know? L wasn't very pretentious but he does call himself justice sometimes and stuff along the like(?) Near drops all pretense... cant help but stan
Also really fond that he actually likes mello its just mello doesnt like him... I know canon never explicitly states their relationship with each other, like if its a brotherly relationship or not (altho isnt there some cain and abel parallels??? Not sure). But i really do see a siblinglike relationship between the two. Canon doesnt really put any angst on their relationship bc near doesnt care lolol, but the two do remind me of certain siblings that have a strained relationship because of the pressure put on one of them (or on both. Again fuck wammys house all my homies hate wammys AND WATARI!!! ME WHEN I GET YOU!!!) I really would love to see the two interact... and maybe just be happy by each other/pl. Because god it really terrible to see how much mello hates near and its not even nears fault :,). AND FUCK THE CHOCOLATE BAR HE EATS AT THE END TO HONOR MELLO???? STOPPPP IM GONNA CRY... near the man that you are... they dont deserve you baby...
And smello... mello mello mello... I've heard more positive things about him compared to near bc hes more "interesting" and i can see why people take that angle BUT. God they still undersell him so much??? I feel like hes one of the few characters to have a goal besides catching Kira (or not getting caught) because of his inferiority complex. I do not mean to undersell any of the other characters when i say this because theyre all very complex! They all have their driving goals and the like. Its just that i argue that Mello's is more persistent and that it is not centered around the conflict but rather himself. Even if he caught Kira perhaps he would still never be happy with himself because Near is always "going to be better" because of the shit he went through in wammys. Theres a whole discussion to be had abt the ethics of wammys house... but ill save that for another post wwww.
Mello is also someone that isnt pretentious about his idea of justice bc hes a fucking criminal. (BTW i love the two opposing sides of the successors... one that tries falling within the law but still doesnt give a shit and the other that doesnt give any shits at all and eventually helps the law.) And its so... I LOVE YOU RUTHLESS CHARACTERS I LOVE YOU CHARACTERS THAT STOP AT NOTHING TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.
And the thing is ... Mello does have his own sense of justice because its not as if he sacrifices innocent bystanders to get what he wants he just does what is necessary. LIKE ofc its fucked up that he kidnapped sayu (and traumatized her...), takada (and the stripping... but at least she got a blanket:,) honestly tho id blame that on the misogyny of the authors) and the director of the police im not about to be a mello apologist (yes i am/j). But a. He probably knew no one was going to get hurt in the first place because hes just that damn confident. b. His remorse for matt and soichiros deaths show that he doesnt intend on sacrificing anyone and when things go astray it saddens him a little. And c. THE FACT HE PROBABLY KNEW HE WAS GONNA DIE AND STILL SACRIFICED HIMSELF TO HELP NEAR... near would "win" but mello prioritized putting kira behind bars and while i cant guess his motive, from my end it does seem like in extension he prioritized doing the right thing, which would be to sacrifice his life and pride to help near get the final piece to catch mikami... wow what a man im so deathly ill
After typing all this, i must say... is L really as complex as years of DN fans have said?? I think im about to get crucified for this opinion, but legitimately is he??? I think he is complex most certainly just... maybe not as much as others have said... i might just be missing details about his past + lore from external media so maybe thats why i have this opinion. But i feel like the successors *are* toe to toe with him despite their split screen time... idk tho :3 this is just my thoughts meow
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tenderribcage · 1 year
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heya heya, apologies if someone asked asked this before buuut
is Cain's name a play on "cane"? also is there any ~Cain and Abel~ significance to it?
btw hiii I've been following your stuff for a good while now, I'm very soft about John and his brobro (apologies of that's not like. the right name or anything. I'm gonna be honest I only went snooping to find out recently and drew some conclusions from there given the designs shown in the burn for you animatic)
Burn For You is a very, very old animatic!! It's been a hot second since I've updated anyone on John-boy and Koen, but things have majorly changed, and for the better! :))) I'm so glad you asked about them! Jo-Ann (originally John-Boy) goes by she/her pronouns! She has a twin brother named Jim-Bob, and their master/caretaker is Koen Murphy, the vampire king >B)
As for Cain, yes! It is both a pun on the word cane, and also a eerie reference to Cain and Abel :) Fun fact, his brother's name is Abel!!
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hamliet · 2 months
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Hello! Sorry I keep using your asks but I read your meta about Nie Mingjue and Jiang Cheng yesterday (phenomenal analysis btw) and noticed the title. I was wondering if it was a reference to the story of Cain and Abel. I thought if it was it would be very fitting considering that both of them are rather selfish and (to a degree) apathetic characters who do not view themselves as responsible for the well-being of their fellow human and who value their own reputations above helping the innocent, downtrodden people in their society.
Thank you! Yes, it is a reference to Cain and Abel. I'm glad you liked it! <3
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drowsystarlight · 1 year
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Could you do for headcanons - 3 and 4 for your runner 5 ? :)
HIIII (immense sobbing) (I love them they’re my favorites)
Dynamic trio headcanons (Spoilers for s2 finale btw!)
Yyyep you read that right; 3 4 5, triple threat agency in my BRAIN!! I love to talk about 5am but i honestly feel like 345 would be the best trio in the runner pile! I also think they’re closer in age—somewhere from early twenties to mid-twenties. Idk their canon ages but both Jody and Simon sound around 23-25 to me, and my Five is 22-24.
Jody and Simon are polar opposites and Five is a sponge. Y’know how Simon is all mister Jokes and Funny guy while Jody is a lot more ohhh nooooo zombies brlughg? My Five is a recluse so I feel like this trio will only form in s2, after Sam finally gets through them after AVITD! But even then, my Five is selectively mute and has a hard time socializing, so they’re quiet and would listen to Jody and Simon bicker 95% of the time.
But you know Simon. He’s chatty and funny and always easy going; Five would hate it at the start but they’ll warm up to it eventually. I also think Simon is touchy and my Five is touch averse so they would REALLY hate to be around this guy at first. Jody is a lot more gentle and understanding in a sense. Sure, Five has a notorious record of ignoring everyone at their first few weeks in Abel (they are the type to leave you mid-conversation if you say or do something they don’t like), but Five has let Jody talk longer than everyone else. She’s really nice, y’know? Though Five hates feminine words/pronouns about them so as soon as Jody slips (not her fault though, since my Five hasn’t really communicated that they don’t like fem words), they leave.
Well, premise is that Five eventually joins conversations by being there. Bit by bit. In missions, and then inside Abel when they’re not all busy. Simon would totally swoop in and eat on Runner Five’s table at lunch/dinner to chat them up since he’d be so eager to get through them (bc really, how dare you ignore Simon?? LMAO?? He’s funny and COOL five cmon now get with the program!) In the first few tries, Five gets up and leaves. And then eventually they begrudgingly stay because Simon begs them to hear him out and that he just wants a fun little chat. They got off on the wrong foot but Five eventually happily sits there to hear him out—new song, new story, etc. Stories are fun and Simon is charming. Eventually, Jody joins in, and over time it becomes a little tradition to join Five when they’re alone and chat them up even if they don’t respond as much, or at all. When you’re someone with the reputation of leaving conversations, Jody appreciates their presence alone and Simon would joke about it. “Oh, Runner Five, could’ve told us you were mute and like gender neutral stuff y’know?” And then their bickering starts as soon as Jody swoops in to defend them.
When Five finally starts learning how to sign (thanks to Evan finding a sign language book and giving it to them so they could communicate better), they join the conversations bit by bit. Five can’t sign that fast yet but the two would wait them out before continuing. Five would reference past conversations and it turns out they’re a reservoir of information and memories and conversations. I bet Simon would use them as a backlog to win bets whatsoever. Jody would eventually teach them how to knit or sew 🥹🥹 and then she’d probably let them know how she thought Five was intimidating at first, and that it’s thanks to Sam for figuring out their hard edges so that she knows what to, or what not to, refer or talk to them with. Five likes to draw Jody and Simon chatting and bickering about (apart from all the other pages full of Sam ofc) but they don’t show this to them at all. Only Sam has seen the notebook. My Five is very shy about the drawings.
In missions together, like the whole whack-a-mole thing (s2 side missions), Simon and Five will UNFORTUNATELY do their best to beat the current highscore. Jody would be the one sensible mf who holds the single braincell in the trio but she eventually joins them “Just so they’d be done faster”.
Simon would be the one to call out Five’s specific interest towards Sam and Jody will be the one to hypothesize if it’s a crush or more. The both of them are their best wingmen—with Simon eventually branching out to poking Sam to make a move and Jody taking Five away for private advice and some tips on Sam Yao’s likes and dislikes. Hell, she might also teach them how to sew a new hoodie, or knit a cute little beanie for cold days or nights.
Five’s first words to Jody is something like “you’re a good person”, and it just comes out randomly. Maybe while sewing together somewhere private.
Five’s first words to Simon isn’t really a sentence—it’s just a full-on laughter fit. And then they tell him he’s ridiculous. This is the first time Five would’ve laughed (apart from light giggles within Sam’s presence and jokes).
When Simon turns out to be the traitor, Five takes it really hard. They did find a friend in him and is 100% sure he was coerced into betraying Abel. They’re also empathetic with his decision but that’s overshadowed with anger—towards Van Ark, the apocalypse, Simon himself. If they had the option to talk to Simon when Jamie confronted him, they’d ask him—verbally—why. They’d want to hear him out no matter how long it takes. They’d stay there and just absorb his side of the ordeal. But Five isn’t good at regulating wrath so regardless of what he says, they might also be the one to beat up Simon into a pulp instead of Jamie—and then give him a weapon as a final “I care about you, but you fucked everything up and I can’t trust you anymore.” Then leave him out there like Jamie did. The key difference is that Jamie did it for Archie’s sake and revenge; Five would do it for their own feelings and to relieve the frustration feel. The other half of that murky feeling goes into exploding Van Ark’a last chopper down.
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danny-chase · 3 years
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Cass stans hating Jason stans because of fanfic is ridiculous. As is Cass stans aren't equally bad of writing classists, ableist, mockeries of Jason in turn. Honestly each group is playing themselves the issue is never the characters its unimaginative writers and people being unwilling to allow characters to have arcs or change.
Look, I don't think you understand how much popular of a character Jason is at this point in time.
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Now if you cross search for how many fics these two are in together, you get
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Going based off the sheer numbers, I don't think these Cass fans are writing mockeries in return. And even if they were, Jason fans can go read the 36,440 stories about Jason that don't include Cass. Cass fans have 2,370 stories that exclude Jason - which is still big but also less than half of her stories.
Now another metric - if you filter by how many stories are solo stories (excluding all other batfam members you get the following results):
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There are only 338 stories where Cass isn't attached to the batfamily. Of course her fans are going to be resentful. Especially if they see fics where Cass and Jason getting along as ooc for Cass. Why would they be busy writing mockeries of Jason when we already have so little Cass content 💀 that would be a waste of time and I've literally never seen it while reading fic. I have seen Cass show up in stories to go - "guys look how sad jason is" and then do nothing else the entire time multiple times - it's not just jason either and they literally did this in canon with Tim. I don't go out of my way looking for it.
Because there's not a ton of Cass fic (of the actually cool badass Batgirl 2000 Cass), yeah people are going to be resentful if they keep clicking into fics where their fave shows up as a human mood ring, despite that never being their canon characterization. And yeah, I'm sure good writers don't do that, but like 90% of the batfam fandom hasn't read her comic, so like what are they drawing off of to write her?
In happy land where Jason gave up killing and didn't commit any serial murders after coming back, sure they can get along. There's my imagination. Cass stans are just resentful that Cass's character is changed for her and Jason to get along in most of the fan works about the two - and that's completely reasonable imo (like wouldn't you be mad/resentful if Jason was a fluffy stuffed bunny hug monster in all fics about Cass), and is funny because it reminds me of a popular anti-Bruce rant where Jason stans were hating on Bruce because Jason always has to change for him. So like. Shouldn't be hard to see why Cass stans are upset.
Which is why I look at the discourse and I just laugh because hardcore Cass stans are probably never going to like Jason stans, or want to hear them out, so long as the version of Cass that's currently prevalent is the one showing up in fics/canon
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itlivesproject · 3 years
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WE HAVE NERVE INDICATORS, LET'S GOOOOOOOO !!! 🥳🎉🎉🎉 guys, you're amazing, thank u so much! i'm pretty sure i would get everyone killed without it, adhghdh. ;; oh, btw, i'm the same anon that asked about the code last time so... would you feel comfortable with sharing your wisdom? would love to know how you managed to add it to the game <3 thanks again, luvs, and congrats!!!
Thank you, and I’m so excited about it too! I think the addition of nerve scores will 1) make it easier for people to keep track of who needs some more help ;_; and 2) make it feel more like It Lives.
So how I did it! Basically, I added the nerve icons as a variable layer to the compiled images of each character and added a function check that is triggered to run anytime someone’s nerve score drops or goes above a specific threshold. When that happens, the nerve icon number indicator changes to line up with a different icon. Here are some screenshots.
First, we have Abel’s composite image code. You’ll see the top layer is the nerve icon. The [ab_nerve_icon] is a variable. It’s automatically set at 3, but the function check can change it. Each person with a nerve score has their own variable for the nerve icon.
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Next are the actual nerve icons. The way that they’re named is very important. They all are just nerve[number]. The number is what [ab_nerve_icon] refers to!
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Finally, we have the check function! First you have to list all the variables that will be involved after “global.” Then we have the list of how to set the nerve icon number. So if Amalia’s nerve drops below 40 but is above 20, the game knows to set the nerve icon number to 2 (aka the am_nerve_icon variable value becomes 2). If the nerve icon becomes 2, then the nerve image in the composite code will become nerve2.
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Then here's the end of this check:
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The last part is important because that tells the game to run this code. I came up with the idea for this because I'm using the method of variables and numbers to name the clothes/race/hair options and I figured it could work for the nerve icons as well. The problem was getting it to trigger and run so that the variable would change. Then I realized I was using this same code to limit nerve to 0 and 100, so nerve can’t become 113 for example, and I tweaked it and applied it to this code it worked!
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sword-dad-fukuzawa · 2 years
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aurie! :] i want to know about your takeuchi mars red headcanons (if you have any)! also, i know about the "This is my brother and I need a shovel to love him" inspiration for This is No Cultivated Heaven, but do you have any other fics where there was some specific noteworthy literary influence (a poem that had the same vibes, a book that inspired you, etc.) ?
Fanfic Writer Friday
!! Sparrow!! Yes!! Love this ask! It's gonna be hella long!
Takeuchi headcanons:
He has a favorite lab coat that he embroidered flowers onto. This is because he seems like the type of guy to have at least tried crochet/macrame/embroidery/knitting on account of being functionally immortal. Like, poisonous flowers, because he thinks they're cool and has tried infusing them into blood candy to see if it improves the taste.
He has, on occasion, wondered if there's a way to generate immortality in humans without making them vampires. Just wait till he finds out about telomeres.
Speaking of modern science inventions, he absolutely keeps abreast of them by subscribing to every scientific publication he can get his grubby hands on. He does miss his government funding, though.
You know how he wears yellow socks in the anime? He's got one of every primary color and switches them out depending on his mood.
He wears Birkenstocks when he's not in the lab (no open toed shoes in the lab space!! It's a lab safety violation that got him vampire-d and he's not about to risk it again!!)
In that vein, if Takeuchi ever taught a high school class, he has mandated goggle wear on pain of getting kicked out of the class. They all think he's a little strange for avoiding sunlight but his sunscreen means he's been able to beat the vampire allegations. For now. (I want to write this fic btw)
He can't drive. By which I mean he can drive, but he insists on modding his cars until they're probably illegal and make weird noises. He did get his Chevy to fly for a bit, though.
He enjoys splashing around in shallow ponds. They're never deep enough that he'll drown, but splooshing shallow water is fun.
Every year, on the anniversary of the Great Tokyo Earthquake, he visits Yamagami's military grave and the makeshift one for Maeda that the surviving members of Code Zero made with his kids.
Even though Code Zero is scattered throughout the world now, they keep in touch via postcards.
Okay, short answer is I don't have any fics that are as heavily influenced as "This is No Cultivated Heaven" was. I had intense Cain and Abel brainrot that day and I think I went a little nuts. But! There are definitely some others.
For example, "No Longer a Puppet." The title is a terrible No Longer Human reference and it's a fic about humanity, achieving it when one finds themselves feeling inhuman, and doubles as a commentary on the faults and foibles of people in general. It's heavily inspired by the concept of feeling inhuman (thanks Dazai), the concept of commenting on humanity as an outsider (thanks Natsume, re: I Am a Cat), and it also was kinda influenced by "Thou Shalt Not Die" (thanks, Yosano) because it's also a fic about war, and wanting so badly to prevent your loved ones from going off to the battlefield. It's a very BSD-colored fic in that I was really thinking about those three while writing it, despite being about a Genshin character. It's one of my favorite fics.
There's also "The Wind Rises," my Genshin longfic that I have a very love-hate relationship with. I stole the title off of the Ghibli movie by the same name and I feel like it took on the tone of the movie, and maybe even the main message, as I was writing it. Which is, in and of itself, a reference to the poem "The Graveyard by the Sea," as its opening lines are:
Le vent se lève! Il faut tenter de vivre. / The wind is rising! We must try to live.
It's a movie (and poem) about grief (war too, for the movie), and the idea that life gets really difficult and overwhelming but it's necessary for us to keep trying to live. Genshin, I feel like, is a game that's heavily colored by old grief that was never processed. I know you haven't played it but many, if not all, significant plot points draw on the fact that the people of the present have lost things irrevocably--people, homelands, lives, etc.
And my fic is this pre-canon rewrite of some characters' backstories in an attempt to make them happier, and less colored by grief--but there's an unavoidable sense of loss that creeps in whenever I write about Genshin characters anyway. So it's also about them learning to live when the world disappoints them.
Plus, you know, heavy references to the wind because it's Mondstadt-centric, and that's the city that houses the god of the wind. And the idea that Genshin is fundamentally about a world that is recovering from a war, and yet there's still a shadow war going on at the same time...Genshin's not an inherently sad game, but it is so viscerally about grief that you can't help but touch on it when you write in that world.
Some of the chapters also feature literary references, too. Chapter 14 is heavily inspired by, to the point of including, the Jewish story of the Golem (very good read, and Jacob Geller has a super intriguing youtube video about it). At least one chapter features FMA references, one is a promare reference, one is a reference to Snow White with the Red Hair (my favorite shoujo), references to Mo Dao Zu Shi...oh, and it quotes Dazai's The Setting Sun at one point.
As a last thing, I'll say that "Eat the Apple," my horror FyoGol fic, was inspired by a couple Naruto fics! The writing braincell will latch onto absolutely anything, literary or otherwise.
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lananiscorner · 2 years
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The Sandman rewatch - episode 7
So I like to do this thing where, if I didn’t consider a show a complete waste of time and if it does have an actual arc spanning the season, I watch the season twice–once as a binge watch and then once more episode by episode, because it helps me notice things I didn’t notice at first, especially in cases like this where I’m almost entirely unfamiliar with the source material.
Anyway, any and all chronological thoughts and ramblings about episode 6 of The Sandman beneath the cut, because spoilers.
Well, we’re starting this episode off on a lovely note. Rose’s dad can get fucked for all I care.
You know you’re messed up when the anthropomorphic personification of Despair tells you that you’ve gone too far.
Oh, so the whole business with Nada was Desire’s fault too? I guess there’s one in every family…
Rose has guts going straight from “sure, I’ll pay you” to “you’re not hiring by any chance, right?”
It’s nice to see Lucienne actually being wrong about something for a change. Also, I wanna know what’s residing in Abel’s basement. lol
Wow, Dream’s castle is looking nice again. Took him barely any time to fix the place up, huh?
Aww, Matthew is volunteeering to help out Dream by watching over Rose in the waking world.
Lyta and Rose’s banter about the annoyance of getting asked for ID or not XDDD. Relatable.
I remember watching this episode for the first time and being very impressed by the way they had handled setup and payoff in this show, and honestly, I still am. Quick story writing lesson: setup and payoff refers to introducing a plot point/item/character etc. early in a way that doesn’t disturb the plot and immediately scream “hey this is is important—remember this!” in spite of it becoming important later. If done right, the audience will go “oh wait, it’s plot point/item/character X from that earlier scene/episode!” when they get to the important part. This show is excellent with setup and payoff. So many things that may seem like filler/fluff actually make sense later. Good job, writers!
I love how Unity was so worried Rose would just be like “you’re crazy, I’m leaving”, yet the first thing Rose does when finding out that she’s got a great-grandma is hug her. ;_;
Omg the serial killer get-together! I love how this starts out like a totally normal conversation, then they mention the Corinthian and you might think “okay, maybe they’re talking about a different Corinthian or maybe he is like… a super famous chess player or something whenever he’s not murdering people”… and then she pulls out the picture of an eyeless murder victim and calls it exquisite and your brain just screeches to a halt like “what the fuck did I just walk into?”
And I just realize where I remember Rose’s friend Carl from—he was the doppelgänger on The Witcher!
Jesus Christ, the Good Doctor. XDD She’s not crossing the line, she’s dancing back and forth over it.
Oh hey, the fates are back! This can only end in tears.
“Beware dreams and houses”--that’s gotta be the most useless advice ever lol.
Unity just casually dropping the “oh btw, our family is loaded” bomb XD.
Lmfao, Carl here just casually seducing a walking nightmare.
Oh, that’s a picture of the girl from two episodes ago! Judy, I think?
“Any unusual behavior.” - “Said the pumpkin to the talking bird.” Lmao, please don’t ever change, Matthew.
I swear to god, Hal looks exactly like one of my former co-workers. I had to look up his actor to make sure my ex-co-worker hadn’t gone to Hollywood.
Also, I adore Zelda and Chantal. Fun fact: there were exactly two sub culture groups for girls in my middle/high school (in Germany, we don’t separate those two)--you either went with the fake tan bitches, or the goth rock punks. The latter were infinitely more inclusive.
I genuinely do feel for both Rose and the foster care case worker in this scene. There’s only so much you’re allowed to do by law and it’s just an all around shitty situation for everyone.
That said, the moment she mentioned the money, I knew where this was going.
Gilbert is amazing. And so much of his demeanor makes sense once you know who he really is.
Oh great, the Corinthian has found his people. This cannot end badly for anyone, nope.
Rose just casually strolling into Dream’s throne room and you can tell from the look on his face that he’s going “aw damn, so much for her not being an active threat—I might actually really have to end up killing this girl”.
Yep, Jed’s foster father is a piece of shit. Now we know where those 800/month are going.
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ndoandou · 4 years
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I saw your requests were open again. I got so happy. If it’s ok if I can request how would the ikevamp boys would react to over hearing mc talk to someone else. Like venting about having a wet dream about them? Could be nsfw or sfw i don’t mind either way. 💕
Hello! Thankyou for the i n t e r e s t i n g request! 💜💜💜
//i had too much fun with leonardo's part HAHAHAHAH
//i appologize if i did a shit job, i waffle too much especially since i wrote this as 2 am x.x
Mild NSFW (suggestive themes)
CHARACTERS: THEO, COMTE, LEONARDO, ARTHUR
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Hmm in this case, id imagine her venting to sebastian in the kitchen ( lets imagine they decide to speak french to eachother instead of japanese) , cleaning up at night. one of the vampire boys would head over to kitchen to get something/look for MC but stops when he hear the conversation going on in the kitchen.
Theo
He would find this adorable lowkey tbh
He would lean over the wall, waiting for her to leave the kitchen
I think it would be a turn on for him? But he finds it more cute than arousing- okay maybe VERY arousing
He can't wait to tease his hondje with the info he has just heard
Wants to make her "bark" in bed
Scenario:
MC walked out of the kitchen after venting out her T h i n g to sebastian. To her surprise, theo was leaning on the wall with an amused expression.
"T-theo? What are you doing here?" Mc said as she was not expecting him to be there.
"I was looking for you. Thats when i heard.... an interesting confession from you hondje" theo said smirking
He walked over towards mc, causing her to walk back, her back eventually hitting the wall. Theo placed a hand on the wall, next to her face, kabedoning her. MC let out a yelp and Theo leaned over to her ear.
"You sure do have the wildest things to say hondje. Why dont we recreate those naughty dream of yours tonight, hm?"
Comte
He would be amused lowkey horny 😳
He knew that MC always had something funny or cute to say, but this? Very interesting
I feel like he would write a small note telling MC to meet him in his room
When MC is in his room, that's when the fun and teasing begins ;)
Scenario:
Comte initially came looking for MC in the kitchen but to his surprise, he heard something rather interesting.
"I.. had a very questionable dream- me and comte was doing uh- i-"
"Deep breaths MC, speak slowly"
"Oh? What is this?" Comte whispered softly to himself as he stood by the closed door listening to their conversation.
"He touched me everywhere and the he uhhh... well..long story short, it was a sexual dream that involved intercourse..."
"My, oh my"
Comte's lip curved into a smirk. He quickly walked over to his room to write a special note. As soon as he done that, he walked over to the kitchen door. He placed the note by the door.
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MC left the kitchen feeling embarrasment and guilt after what she confessed to sebastian. That was when she stepped on a piece of paper. Mc picked it up to examine it
"To MC..Meet me in my room..abel" mc read aloud to herself
She froze
Had he over heard what she had been talking about to sebastian??
"There is a good chance that.. he had been eavesdropping on us" sebastian said teasing MC
MC glanced over to sebastian with a confused expression, which she then ran off towards Comte's room.
She slammed the door open, revealing Comte who was sitting on the bed with a mysterious smile
"Good evening, mon amour. I take it that you read my note?" he said calmly as always
"You.. heard everything did you" MC said full off embarrasment
"Yes, and now we will do whatever you dreamt about here" Comte said patting the bed with a devilish smile
Leonardo
Big horni but he tries to act cool
In reality hes losing it🥵
Big big horni, straight to bed as soon as he and mc meet eachother
Would want MC to retell her dream to him in absolute detail as he rails her
Btw take a shot whenever i say "ciggarilos"
Scenario:
"She had a lewd dream about me?" Leonardo thought to himself as he inhaled his cigarrilo
He was eavesdropping on MC and sebastian. He had his ear placed over the wall far away from the door, as he didnt want them to smell the scent from his ciggarilos. This was the only time he found his enchanced hearing usefull, as a pureblood.
His member was throbbing against his pants as MC's description got even more detailed as it went on. At the same time he inhaled his ciggarilo sharply whenever MC said something that is a big turn on of his. His ciggarilo was the only thing stopping him from going insane from arousal.
Eventually he inhaled too sharply, causing a coughing and wheezing fit, alarming MC and Sebastian.
"Merda!" Leonardo swore under his breath as he quickly ran away fron the scene towards his room
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MC knocked on leonardo's room
"Come in."
MC invited herself in. Leonardo was sitting on his bed with his cigarrilo.
"Are you alright? I heard you coughing earlier and it sounded intense" MC said worriedly
Leonardo inhaled his ciggarilo as he scratched the back of his head
"About that..." he trailed off
"Well?" MC raised a brow
"I was eaves dropping on your naughty conversation cara mia. i wasn't expecting that much lewdness from you which caused me to choke on my cigar." Leonardo said as he chuckled, glancing over to MC who was trying to process what he had just said.
"You.. heard everything?!" MC said in disbelieve. That was when she glanced over to his pants, revealing a huge tent.
"Well.. yes. And it has caused a rather BIG problem, as you are looking at it right now.." he said suggestively
Leonardo crushed his cigarrilo onto the ash tray.
"Care to help cara mia..?"
Arthur
My man would straight up open the kitchen door too confront MC like its nothing
Actually glad that MC has such dreams because as embarrising it is to admit, he had such dreams about her multiple times
He wish she would have told him directly as its a good reference for bed ;)
Scenario:
"And he was touching me down here.."
"Oh? She had a rather naughty dream about me?" Arthur said to himself
He initially came looking for MC bit was presented with something interesting..
He opened the kitchen door open causing MC to jump and sebastian to look over to the door
"Arthur?!" MC exclaimed full of surprise
"Well, well. What an interesting story, love. Im rather upset that you didn't tell me first~" arthur said as he walked slowly into her direction, eventually pinning her on the wall
"Lets have some fun shall we?" Arthur said, whispering into her ear earning a soft gasp from her
"Ehem. I shall leave you both together" sebastian fake coughed as he exited the kitchen pretending to not have seen anything.
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Long story short, arthur railed MC in the kitchen like no tommorow 🤭
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prettyoddfever · 4 years
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if you wish you could hear Cricket & Clover...
so I completely love Razia’s Shadow for being a total masterpiece in its own right, but then there’s the extra bonus of the connections I see with Cricket & Clover:
a musical storyline
a doomed love story with starcrossed lovers
both have a song called “It’s True Love”
they take place in a “strange world” (Ryan’s words for C&C but it fits Razia’s Shadow too)
both have Brendon Urie singing. obvs.
Cricket & Clover started as a concept album with the seven deadly sins. Razia’s Shadow also has biblical imagery woven into its fantasy creation story, the entire fall & redemption arc with salvation through sacrifice (and that prophecy), the prince of darkness disguising himself in the city of light, Cain & Abel figures, the light/dark themes, the Aramaic, and a lot more.
both bands faced challenges for how to fund and conceive the orchestration.
almost no guitar on the whole album
Razia’s Shadow had its first demo in 2006 but started in the studio with 2–3 songs in fall 2007. C&C was scrapped in early summer 2007, so they’re from the same era (and the same label). 
Thomas Dutton was inspired by Moulin Rouge, which was also a huge inspiration for P!ATD in the Fever era. He was also inspired by Aladdin, which Brendon kind of loved. Aaaaand Ryan told Pete during P!ATD’s cabin season that one of their new songs sounded like Aladdin.
Thomas said he was obsessed with Disney movies. C&C was a “Disney-styled fairytale concept album.”
actually, both projects had a major fairy tale quality.
Forgive Durden’s name is a reference to Fight Club’s Tyler Durden so there’s a Chuck Palahniuk connection going on... they also opened for P!ATD for a couple tours.
there are more connections within the lyrics but it feels like a major reach. I’ll just leave it with:
so Brendon plays Pallis and then Thomas Dutton was Adakias and they’re the princes of darkness directly descended from the angel boy who kind of destroyed creation & split the world in his fall, right? (His “young veins were ripe for [evil to grow]” etc). 
some of Ryan’s Cricket & Clover lyrics:
I fell from the heavens as a fetish blessed with an operatic skeleton, and as the stars watch me descend I crack a family tree and chopped off all of the branches
Ryan Ross is thanked in the album’s notes because he was a good friend Thomas said he talked to quite a bit and bounced ideas off of while writing Razia’s Shadow. Ryan also gave feedback, so it seems like they were on the same page! (I’m definitely not attributing anything to Ryan or trying to diminish the genius of Thomas & Paul in any way btw). I just think if you’re a P!ATD fan who’s sad about Cricket & Clover then sometimes the general similarities add another layer of appreciation.
side story: I saved a fan’s recap from when she met P!ATD during the time of Razia’s Shadow’s release in late October 2008 and had them sign her script. She didn't understand what was happening & it’s hilariously sad:
“Brendon made some comment to me about the crazy or amazing... things that come out of Thomas Dutton's mind... Ryan was actually first in line and after handing him the script and telling him that I had been at the listening party the night before, I mentioned that he and the guys ought to do a musical some time... Zack elbowed Ryan and said "YEAH RYAN.” Ryan just kind of looked at me (her friend said he looked sheepish) and said "we tried that already." Awww, sorry Ryan. But you *could* try again, maybe after you've gotten another album or two under your belt? Just a thought.”
update: here’s the Razia’s Shadow playlist & interview with Brendon update #2: Razia is the name of the mountain! update #3: the picture at the top is my cd bundle 
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mama-germany · 4 years
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Submission: {IIRC, submission format is bad. This is feminists-against-feminism, hopefully unedited by Mama Germany :^), and ill end my submission with “/submission”, and the rest, if anything, is mama-germany. Also, hopefully the paragraph breaks take, and if they dont…. welp…}
Imma be real with u chief, I dunno what you want me to do with this.  I’m a Jew.  I don’t like communism.  I don’t actually live in Germany.  And I’m not reading all this.  Idk.
Karl Marx’s “On: The Jewish Question” seems a prototype for conflict theory, but has ‘the real jew’ as the 'Haves’ the in place of the 'bourgeois/rich/capitalist’ 'oppressor class’. Conflict theory, icydk, is the collectivist egalitarian pseudoscientific theoretical paradigm taught in sociology, underpinning essentially the whole social justice perspective, and directly encompassing marxist theory, feminist theory, critical race theory, critical theory, gender schema theory (and likely influenced John Money’s gender theory, and builds on gender theory), queer theory, gender critical theory, postmodern theory, lysenkoism (mostly abandoned), standpoint theory,  post colonial theory, animal liberationism, and of course, intersedtional theory which synthesizes them all together wherever they can be synthesized. Marx said the nature of jews is huckstery, he said the real lofe manifestationnof the god of israel is money itself, he said eliminating money would render the jew an equal and normal person. His whole theory, and every conflict theory since, relies on the presupposition the indovodual is irrelevant and what matters is only the aggregate disparities between groups. This turns his theoey ultimately against all boundaries of the individual, their private property and necessarily their innate natural self ownership, their right to self ddetermination. Marx viewed liberalism/individualism as egoism. His whole family was actually jewish, IIRC, he just didnt succeed like they did, he was jealous and a mooch, kind of a beta, likely an aspie if i am to go off the symptomology. He hated them, he was jealous, he wanted success and they had it and he didnt, and so he was basically spot-on like the character Cain from hebrew legend.
Martin Luther. He wrote “On The Jews and Their Lies”. He described jews as piglets suckling from their mother pig, israel, and blamed jews for pretty much everything he viewed as wrong in society. He was basically the predocessor to Hitler and Marx. And one might actually say Marx was an additional predocessor to Hitler. I sure would posot that as likely, even if by proxy of Hitler being influenced by left socialists. I mean, he literally modified the marxist “'class struggle” into his own version of “the struggle”, “MY Struggle/Mein Kampf”. Which brings us to out next german collectivist philosopher. If youre picking up the theme im putting down.
Third subject, Hitler. Self explanatory. Jew-hating anti-egalitarian ethno socialist. Obviously fits in with the last two subject entries. BTW,I have a larger point to all this random pattern listing. One more.
Slightly diverging from hatred of jews, and more toward the begining of postmodernist thought, Max Horkheimer who said freedom and justice are incompatible opposites, and argued everything are oppressive social constructs, every letter and word and phrase and interaction. He said there is no way to know what a just society is, but that we can complain and struggle against the things we dont like and dont find just. And so if you also consider he in the same sitting said freedom and justice are opposites, and this was while summarizing his academic ideas to an interviewer, we can deduce he was directly opposed to freedom, despite considering himself anti-authoritarian…. Anyways, he was bonkers, hope you dont live near Frankfurt, theyre bonkers around them parts, and i know someone who has told me firsthand just how horkheimer style bonkers that town is.
{Honorary mentions. The Kaiser Friedrich Wilhelm Viktor Albert. Although there was clearly nuance here, Prussia WAS part of the German Empire, but the german youth injunction/sinker was still set in him, to which collectivism was his driver/floatation. He was a nationalist and refused advisors compelling him into an anti-left policy. Honorary mention 2. Antifasciste Aktion, the communist vanguard formed by the german communist party, the KPD, formed to forght fire with fire, using brownshirt tactics against the brownshirts (to whom they lost).}
All four, all German. All of them. 5 if we include the Kaiser. The father of protestantism, the father of communism, the left reformer whos students sparked the “New Left” movement, and Hitler, HITLER. ALL GERMAN. Which is not an implicit racial claim im implying, but one about a sour philosophy. I refer to this as German Collectivism. It is the archetype if collectivism which germany seems particularly possessed by. These have ravaged the whole world, toppled entire nations and enslaved likely over two billion people considering just the PRC, USSR, and Nazi Germany esp with its labir camps. Luther could be viewed as the origin, certainly the origin of modern german collectivism (protestantism & lutherean conspiracy theory, left socialism, and nazism), but the purpose of germany has not changed through any of its past or present phases. It’s purpose seems to be unintentionally destroying itself in the process of intentionally trying to destroy the rest of Europe in attempt to conquer Europe and/or the world. Maybe it came from its clash with Rome, and it never left that modality of picking away at its neighbors. Perhaps its influence from the abrahamic faiths it long traded with, maybe that caused the sort of over-populate-and-make-conquest-youth-army kind of societal reproductive modality, by influence of the abrahamic faiths that did that in the middle east for millennia (with obvious great success, whereas Germany fails at the same niche). Maybe it’s because of their empire-orientation, their pre-lutherean state where they were catholic, and so the culture, thinkers and leaders became oriented toward empire. I dont know. But i do know Hitler, the Kaiser, and Marx were all three alienated children who were very disturbed, and assume Horkheimer and Martin Luther were of similar origins, it seems the common theme among these german influences. Disturbed children make for great communists, and germany has long been riddled with communists. Communists & new left communists like intersectionalists have been frequently compared to a religion, and germany was previously, according to Neitzsche who overtly shared my distain for German philosophy (to my surprise, i love him even more now), he said it seemed to him 4/5 people in germany  were part of protestant clergy. The whole state seems in an unending modality if one total hegemonic culthood after another.
The purpose for german collectivism being so consistently against jews, i assume. It is that jews are very successful on average by comparison to every other category in the west. So theyre integral to the structure of society, particularly around power. So to do the sort of semetic strategy, the strategy of Mohammad and Moses, the strategy of just toppling societies and inheriting the remains, in the west, one must (perhaps in a sidenote of historical irony) go through the jews. If they want to make their collectivist totalitarian ideology dominate, they have to go full cain, and stab their brothers - the jews. And just as stabbing Abel didnt wirk well for Cain, obviously taking out the most success oriented demographic (OF WHICH THERE ARE TWO) in your country is not going to work well for Germany. The other the German Collectivist opposes is the individualist - the English liberal, the stoic, the empiricist, the existentialist, the naturalist, the skeptic, these sorts. These sorts of ideas bring success, and so the authoritarian german collectivist requires their demise as well. The Kaiser hated types like us, the Fuhror hated types like us, marx hated types like us, Horkheimer, and Luther to a clear extent.
i should mention, im not a supernaturalist, the supernatural is all metaphor taken as superstition, im woth Neitszche. Theres certainly no supernatural, and race is a politically meaningless concept to me. But what is contained within the borders of germany…. There seems to be an eccentric kook persona, as a sort of cultural clone prevalent in germany, parallel to the American redneck or hillbilly. Theyre not all terrible people, but theyre often super fucked up like longislanders are in NY, or hillbillies from appalachia, or rednecks from alabama. Or just extremely eccentric like a german lady i knew IRL or Joerge Sprave, or oh my god, Max Horkheimer the kook. And it doesnt miss the city, theyre like that, but converted to progressive ideology. Crazy brutes from yesteryear, mostly tamed, or stubby and eccentric out the wazoo, or tall frail and vegan and metro af. And it’s not limited to the old german. Einstein, (not shitting in einstein, not calling him collectivist, but) absolute weirdo jewish german, Horkheimer, absolute nut job, jewish german, Marx, jewish family, the only correlation is they lived in Germany, like Hitler, the SS, and the kaiser. Even the nations east of them who share similar culture, look at Freud, absolutely a german collectivist type, but from Austria, which today is apparently an ethno national socialist state in all but admission. Prussia influenced the Kaiser’s collectivism. Even people i know from america who have all german ancestry and only third gen american, theyre bonkers, like ICP & Twisted clown-rap omega bonkers, and believe in shit like vampires and wicca and werewolf “lychen”. Oh, and i forgot to mention in summarizing Hitler, his wackjob supernaturalist beliefs. What is that? Why is this so normal there for so long and nowhere else for so long? It seems to spread from there more than anywhere else.
It has to be cultural, and deep seeded. It can be changed, and it needs to be. A german lady mutual of mine sees it and is clearly very weighted by it; i was hindered by it drastically, and i live in America. The nihilism, the self hatred, the narcissism, the psychopathy, the selective empathy (ie, selective psychopathy), the tribalism, the scapegoating. You live in germany, you must see it. You dont seem to like sj or right socialism. You seem closer to an individualist. A westerner despite Germany.
Would you consider it a real phenomenon? 'German Collectivism’? A label for describing the seeming german modality of collectivist government and the german philosophical origin of the majority of world’s largest, most wide spread, and deadly collectivist movements? Particularly today regarding the medium of marxian/intersectional conflict theory ideology? I can easily empirically trace intersectionalism and the french fake-gobbldigook-espousing 'intellectuals’ Peterson points at, back to the ideas of Marx (a german). What are your thoughts on it? What caused it? Why is it so historically persistent to this day? It’s still trying to domineer and control Europe via the proxy of the EU. And what the hell is wrong with so many (#notall) German children?! Or, likely, should i moreso be asking about ***the (#notall) parents***? But today, those parents were raised by nazis, or people raised by nazis. (#notall) but those nazis were raised by communists and imperialists, and those imperialists and communists were raised by communists and lutherean protestants, and those communists and lutherean protestants were raised by more protestants, and then catholics before them, and tribalist pagans before them. The hegemony is just unending waves of wacky who begat waves of wacky. Id like to see the origin of this crap fixed, see germany liberalized, just to show german collectivism undone SOMEWHERE it has been established for once, and in Germany itself no less. My first thought is just end the EU.
Is it real? What’s the cause? How do we undo it? 
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violetosprey · 6 years
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BTD2 My thoughts on Cain
I covered my thoughts long ago on all of the “Till Death Do Us Part” game characters, but I never really took the time to talk about my thoughts about the main series “Boyfriend to Death” characters.  I have actually talked about many of these characters through various different posts.  But otherwise, there haven’t been that many posts dedicated specifically to certain BTD characters.
These posts will mostly be about my own opinions and views (a rough analysis more than anything).  I may end up focusing on multiple aspects of the character, or just one particular one if I think it defines them best (we’ll see).  For those that have read some of my other posts, there likely WILL be some thoughts I’ve stated before that I’ll simply be re-iterating here.  But there may also be some new stuff in here if it happens to come to mind, or because I’ve simply not had the time before to go over such a topic.
It will take a while to get through all 8, so please have some patience and just check back later if it looks like I don’t have a post up yet for a character you’re really interested in.  I will also be talking through these under the assumption that you’ve played/read all the routes (so I might mention but not go into explicit detail on a scene).
*major spoilers below, and this is stupid long…like anything I write*
Fun fact:  Cain is my second favorite character in the entire BTD/TDDUP series.  The ONLY reason he isn’t my #1 favorite is because I have an intense love for villainous male yanderes, so Marcus just has an unfair advantage here.  If Marcus did not exist though, Cain would be my favorite hands down.
In some ways, Cain is very straightforward in regards to his characters.  He’s THE bad guy.  If he were in another video game or story, he’d likely be the final boss to defeat.  His powers are ridiculous, he’s nearly 3000 years old I think, and I think his creator has implied that he’s not a fan of working under others.  He’s had to as a torturer, but hasn’t seemed to like it (though maybe it depends on the other person/character).  If his character just came off as too OP to you when playing BTD2, well that’s probably because he’s not supposed to be a push-over :P  And the MC of all things in the game is CERTAINLY not a character implied to be anywhere near his caliber to take him on. What’s more, Cain can be considered a bad guy for the VAST majority of his life, and he shows no regrets whatsoever as to the monster he’s become.
Another fun fact is, I actually didn’t make the connection at first upon Cain’s introduction that he’s the Cain from the story of Cain and Abel.  You do get some dialogue in BTD2 from Cain about his origins there, but in the event that someone is not familiar with the importance of this background, I’ll dip in a little here.  Basically, in the bible you have the first humans, Adam and Eve, and their first sons following that were Cain and Abel.  I’m not incredibly familiar with the full story myself, but what happened was the brothers needed (or maybe wanted- don’t remember) to make a tribute to God.  Cain was a farmer, so he presented some of his harvest as tribute.  Abel was a shepherd, so he slayed some of his livestock and presented it as a sacrifice to God.  Between the two gifts, God preferred Abel’s.  After this, Cain then murdered Abel.  The significance here would be that following this tale of early human creation, that would make this the first act of human murder.  So what Cain represents is the origin of one of the most extreme acts of violence on another human being.  And when you ask Cain about his feelings on the matter in BTD2, he STILL does not regret murdering his brother after all these years.  Apparently the bible doesn’t fully goes in Cain’s motives (so it’s fitting that in BTD2 it’s also left to the imagination), but jealousy is a common theory.
So the Cain we know of BTD2 was punished, marked, and sent to hell I believe.  While likely being punished himself, he served a torturer in hell when needed.  If you checked through ElectricPuke’s tumblr, you’ll also learn that he would have been used for big events of depression or war such as the black plague and the crusades. Most of the time, Cain was kept in line by the more powerful fallen angels in hell.  He’s arguably one of the strongest villains, but not THE strongest person basically (Sam who pops up in one ending was confirmed stronger, but just is held back by rules and restrictions).  Recently though, he was able to escape, and he does not plan to go back.
So what’s he do now that he’s out?  Repent for his sins and come to terms with his years of torture to try to be a better person and go on a long journey of enlightenment *eyes sparkle*? Pfft, nope.  He goes straight to tormenting humanity (likely both small scale and large scale, depending on his mood and what he can get away with without being caught) because that’s what he enjoys the most.  That’s the thing about Cain.  He does show moments in the game where he’s quiet, thoughtful, and perhaps even lonely.  But when you look at him as a whole, he’s just a sadist that does whatever he wants to do.  He’s a VERY charming character, but it’s best not to be fooled by this man.  Sweet words may just end up being his way of manipulating someone, tempting them, into doing what he wants.  He does this frequently throughout the game actually, encouraging you to join tell him your sins, join him in the bath, drink his wine, or join him on the balcony.  But if you go back to many of these scenes and see what they lead into (often Cain getting rough and causing harm to the MC), you realize in your attempt to reach out towards the rose…that you forgot about the thorns underneath.  Maybe that’s another reason Cain likes roses :P
The complexity to Cain lies in the fact that he’s difficult to figure out…especially when you NEED to figure him out to live.  Cain is very fickle, and he gets bored fairly easily.  On one hand, he does whatever he wants, and he’s most pleased when he’s tormenting someone.  But he does have to still be careful about where he wanders because the other fallen angels ARE looking for him to a degree.  And Damien’s aware of Cain’s reappearance and is prepping for whenever Cain decides to start causing mass genocide for the heck of it.  How much damage Cain has caused since he’s gotten out btw, I’m not sure.  We only know that the MC isn’t his first victim since getting out since apparently he likes to text “weird pictures” to Damien.  I’m gonna go out on a limb and say these “pictures”…are likely of his victims after he’s done something horrific to them.  Just a guess, but I’d bet good money on that :P
Back to what I was saying though, Cain is still restricted as to where he can go and how often. Damien can’t beat him, sure, but the other angels that can beat him he’s smart enough to avoid.  He has to hide away in Tartarus for…who knows how long at a time honestly.  That’s not something we learn in the game or are given hints to.  Soooo Cain is even MORE bored when he has to sit around his house all day.  He can read books, but he’ll probably end up reading his same stuff over and over again to the point where it’s unenjoyable.  So what’s he decide he wants to do?  Cain wants a pet (and he is the worst pet owner in the world).  
Let’s face it, pets are companions that give you something else to focus on in your day-to-day routine and help even ease away some loneliness.  But he’s Cain, so a fish, bird, dog or cat isn’t going to cut it for him. Why settle for smaller creatures like those when he could grab something that he can make conversation with, indulge in sexual pleasures…and listen to them scream when he tortures them?  Cain makes it VERY clear that he sees the MC as nothing but a toy to him. You may not be a dog, but you’re just Pet 2.0 at best to him.  He really doesn’t seem to have a high opinion of humans either honestly.  Despite having been one, Cain’s not really all the impressed with what he sees.  It’s not like Rire, who Darqx has stated likes humans and prefers to torment them over demons because it’s more interesting to watch something that’s so obviously inferior to you try to fight back.  Cain does also like a victim that puts up a fight, but when he says the MC is “interesting,” it’s not explicitly because they are human.  Actually, I forget who put up the post, but someone figured out that if you name yourself “Ashe,” then you get a few dialogue changes suggesting MC ISN’T human in this case (it’s a reference’s to Gato’s angel character you meet at the river).  Cain can also turn you into a demon or a fallen angel, so he really doesn’t care about keeping you human.  So if you wanted to think up an OC to use for Cain’s route, probably any species would work as long as it’s weaker than him (which would….probably be 98% of creatures that come across him anyway).
I fully believe Cain when he says his intention is to kill you in the end.  While he’s looking for something more long term than when Rire “plays” with his victims, Cain’s “pets” just wouldn’t last very long.  First off, trying to please him is infuriating.  If you stay silent right after he’s kidnapped you, he’s unimpressed and kills you by ripping his tongue out.  He gets furious if you yell back at him and storm off the kitchen, even calling you a child.  Yet he likes if you say you’re not going to roll over for him when you take a bath together, and he gets turned on when you bring a knife and try to stab him.  It seems if you want to survive Cain, you have to hit JUST the right notes of feisty and entertaining, while not going too far into a defiant state that's just too obnoxious for the nearly 3000 year old fallen angel to deal with.  I myself, just kept getting abandoned and killed by Sam XD  I never made him happy enough on my own.  It doesn’t help that he’s one of the two characters where you don’t see his heart changes until the very end either.  Kudos to whoever figured out those survival endings where you end up with Cain (alive I mean).
Speaking of his age…good luck with either of you relating to each other.  That’s one of the hurdles here too if you’re trying to survive.  I’ve always said that Cain is more likely to hold sympathy for you than someone like the demon king Rire, because Cain used to be human.  That being said, there’s not a whole lot of sympathy for him to give.  Like I said, he doesn’t really seem impressed with humans. And one difficulty with relationships where there are rather large age gaps is how life experiences and events (past and current) shape one’s personality and views.  Basic example is an 18 year old and a 70 year old will have VERY different life goals and obstacles at the point in time of their lives. The 70 year MIGHT be able to relate to some of the 18 year old’s troubles since they’d have already experienced them, but at the same time they could just wave off those troubles saying “oh that’s not so bad, wait until you have to worry about this.”  Meanwhile, the 18 year old of course isn’t going to be able to relate to later difficulties in life that the 50 year old has faced.  I know I’m getting a little weird here, and you’re probably thinking “18 and 70 year old in a relationship?  That’d be a disaster.”  Well now the old man is nearly 3000 years old…you think he cares that much about your college exams, mortgage payments, or taxes you have to pay?  Even the MC’s emotional trauma might just seem petty or insignificant to him.  And if he picked up say…a 25 year old.  You think the 25 year old version of him would have anything in common with a modern day 25 year old?  Probably not.
And that’s another thing I like about Cain’s path.  Your survival is based on two things: a) Either someone else comes and saves you after you’ve avoided danger long enough or b) your personality and Cain’s end up meshing.  If Cain doesn’t care that you’re human, and he doesn’t sympathize or relate to you, you have to hope that you’re the kind of person that’s entertaining and pleasant enough for him.  It also might help if the MC is a little masochistic (makes for a better slave) or has some dark thoughts (think of the painting in the one ending).  There’s also two different ways this happens.  If you get the ending where he turns you into a demon, Puke described that as him making you one of his minions.  Whereas the ending where you turns you into a fallen angel, you’re more his equal.  So demon ending I see as you are JUST obedient enough to not be boring or obnoxious, but it’s still like he’s just grown attached more to his “pet” to me.  Like, he’s kicked you around and harassed you a bit, but when you betray Damien and stay with him on your own he’s like, “Awww that’s adorable.  How can I say no to that face?”  He’d probably still torture you a bit and keep you in a submissive role (but more playfulness there I suppose?).  Is it weird that I could also imagine quiet moments where he’s petting the MC’s head on his lap while he reads a book?  Fallen angel ending he’d probably have more respect for you and even treat you as a proper lover, rather than a sex toy.
Going way back to when I said I fully believed Cain when he said he intended to kill you from the start, I think it’s because he doesn’t really expect to end up making everyone he captures a minion or fallen angel (fallen angel probably even less).  And let’s say he DOES like a person for quite a while, but never enough to turn them into a minion or fallen angel.  He’s probably still eventually going to kill you because he’ll get bored of the same old thing and hasn’t gotten attached to you (this is probably more likely), or because you’re just getting too old to be durable for his torture.  Yeah do you think he’d keep someone around when they’re elderly?  He’d probably “pet his pet down” much sooner than that.  I think he changes someone he REALLY likes into a minion or fallen angel so that they not only become more durable (if he keeps up his sadistic acts) but so they can live longer with him.  Humans can barely live to 100.  Cain’s so fickle though that my head canon is if he doesn’t grow attached to you after a week of torment, then he just kills you.  I don’t think he has the patience to let someone prove themselves to him over a few years.  That’s just my opinion though.
I’d have to replay ALL his routes again.  Strangely enough despite him saying that he likes a little fight in the MC, it feels like there are more moments where he likes your compliance more.  Weird, but I’d have to check into that.  Still, with Cain it’s hard to tell whether that compliance just ends up making you too “yes-man” for Cain to really enjoy, or which moments you pick to be feisty won’t end up with you getting your tongue ripped out.
Overall, I think Cain is one of the more interesting characters in the series due to his backstory, charm, consistently evil persona, and survival difficulty.  He’s one of the reasons I consider BTD2 more fleshed out than BTD.  I know it’s not fair to compare the two games like that since BTD was made very quickly in good humor, but a lot of the characters in BTD2 have a little more to them going on that we get to see in the BTD guys (Strade, Rire, and Akira just doesn’t have as much screentime…I think).  And out of the 4 in BTD2, Cain is definitely the most straightforward evil. Nothing really sympathetic about him. I may have said it’s possible that he gets lonely, but “being lonely” doesn’t mean you’re automatically a good person that people should feel bad for right away.  Cain has not shown any remorse for what he’s done, and even in the survival endings where you end up with him, he doesn’t imply he’s going to stop being the villain in anyway.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Violence and Alcohol never looked so cute
4.0 out of 5 stars Funny, Dark, Sarcastic Humor for the fun of it. A dark look at the mischievous ways of milk and cheese. These two dairy products are not the nice tasty treats some may remember. They are not politically correct, not polite, not even nice. Everyone is insulted, presidents, TV celebrities, products, religious groups. I loved them they are raunchy and wild and know how to use their mouths. The illustrations give full emotions to the characters.This is a big book with a lot of short quick laugh out loud stories stories for a quick fun. if you like dark snarky humor this is your book. Go to Amazon
5.0 out of 5 stars Are we throwing up or throwing down? Quickly arrived, and it's a beautifully well-made hardcover book. Not to mention the fact that I've been a Milk & Cheese fan since 1993, and can quote the crap out of them. Btw, the Michelin Man's name is Bibendum, everybody knows that! Go to Amazon
5.0 out of 5 stars A carton of hate and a wedge of spite For those who know Milk and Cheese, what more can I say that you don't already know?For those of you who are not familiar with these two lovable scamps, what have you been doing with your lives!? Is your life so full of meaning that you don't have time for the teachings and philosophy of the greatest comedy duo since Cain and Abel? Is your self loathing so low, that you are afraid to bask in the awesomeness contained between the covers of this beautiful hardback edition collecting the entire works of the apostle Milk and the Prophet Cheese? Are you a descendant of Merv Griffin and still wondering what is was all about?Well stop reading and order a dang copy already for the sake of your health, and by that, I mean, if you don't, M & C will find you, and they are not the kind of doctors you want making house calls! Go to Amazon
3.0 out of 5 stars Meh... To quote the book "They're not antisocial - They are anti-everything" sums the comic strip up quite well. If you remeber pop culture berween 1989 - 2011 you will appreciate the comics written and visual references/puns. Or if you ever visited NY or NJ some of the landmarks referenced should stand out too. Aside from that, the whole series is simply Milk & Cheese breaking things over people's heads, beating people up, throwing TV's and reeking utter havoc. The antics got old about 10 strips in. I had never heard of Milk & Cheese before - purchased the book on a whim as we needed something new and different. It was both. Go to Amazon
5.0 out of 5 stars A dark and hilarious evisceration of...EVERYTHING! From the back cover: "They're not antisocial- THEY'RE ANTI-EVERYTHING!" I don't know if I could sum up Milk and Cheese any better than that! This hardcover collection of every MILK AND CHEESE strip up through 2010 contains mostly one to four page "stories(?)" where the Dairy Products Gone Bad take on everything from Jury Duty, to The War On Drugs, to Star Wars to Halloween to....you get the picture: they really do hate EVERYTHING! Dorkin is a great (although sick) sense of humor and is a really talented artist. Highly recommended! Go to Amazon
5.0 out of 5 stars MERV GRIFFIN!!! I've been a huge fan of Evan Dorkin's work for years, ever since I first caught a single page Milk & Cheese strip in the back of an issue of a Cerebus reprint in the 90s. Back then when I found out they were recurring characters, all I could think was "Realy? That strip was funny as hell, but I don't see how more comics with the same one-dimensional gag could work." But damn, was I wrong! Milk & Cheese deliver the hate and rage time after time, and it's a testimony to Dorkin's wry brilliance that it somehow stays fresh.But that was more than a dozen years ago. Flash forward to 2014 and I was trying to come up with a cool gift for my teenage son who (like me) is a comic book loving cartoonist. I'm amazed I had somehow never given him any old Milk & Cheese comics as he was growing up, but when I saw this collection I was glad I hadn't. He LOVED it. He and I have spent hours reading this collection and laughing our asses off.So bravo, Evan Dorkin! Once again, the Pint of Hate and Wedge of Spite deliver their simple message of angst and violence to a new generation of readers, and inspire a kid to draw. Go to Amazon
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Frank Frivilous left the following comment on my website, which I thought deserved a public response:
JudeoChristianity is not a faith following but an ethnographic political identity. For Christians it may be another dazzling lie. The rally call for independent, faith based, self-governed communities will always be their conscience. The founding articles of independence for the United States are helpful but constantly subject to distortion and subversion. Perhaps even by the founders themselves who appear for the most part to have been members of a secret society known as Freemasonry. This directly contradicts the spirit and intent of liberation movements and reveals the tentacles of British Royalty into our midst. If you are attending a Synagogue regularly, you are probably aware of these things but choose not to include them in your discourse, which is okay with me. The members will discover it in the normal course of their awakening from cultish manipulation. I just want to say that I appreciate your efforts in assisting in raising the awareness of the remaining members.
Early Christianity was co-opted by the Roman Empire, but the basic principles contained in the Bible, in my opinion, are the best articulation of the case for human dignity and freedom that the world has access to.  BTW, I attend a local Church, but have some very good friends who are Rabbis.  No matter how well a principle of freedom is articulated, it can be twisted and used to enslave.  I agree with the Quakers in their insistence that the dominion of Man over Man was a result of the Fall.  We are faced with a perversion of dominion and, as Kate pointed out, Salvation really is liberation.  I have been fully imersed in the literature of secret societies and other groups that seek global dominion, as I became aware of themduring my days as a CAUSA lecturer.  It too time, but I came to see that our leaders interpret DP in a way that leads to the dominion of some over others.  Changing how we interpret the DP is the key to raising awareness and reforming the UM.   I used to think that it was all a matter of how the Cain and Abel principle was understood, but now see that as a symptom of a deeper problem.  It all goes back to the Principle of Creation and the Fall.
Is the First Blessing all about "perfected individuality" or "The Perfected Individual?"  Do "perfected individuals" naturally create "true families", or does "The Perfected Individual" create "The True Family" into whose physical blood lineage the rest  of us must be engrafted?  Is our relation to God really a matter of physical blood lineage, or a more spiritual quality like love?  If our realition to God really is about physical blood lineage, how can we ever have a direct relation to God?  That relation will always be mediated by the physicqal blood lineage of the "True Family," who is to have dominjion over the whole world.  This is an old view called "patriarchicalism," which John Locke wrote his two treatisies on government to explicitly refute.
Patriarchalism is a political theory that arose in England in the seventeenth century that defended the concept of absolute power for the monarchy, through language that emphasized the "paternal" power of the king over the state and his subjects.[1]
Due to divisive religious policy, controversial political strategy at home and disastrous diplomatic campaigns abroad, James I and Charles I alienated the consensus of the people. Hence the patriots played down the leading role of the sovereign. They questioned the royal prerogative, seeing the king as the mere figurehead of England. The king's absolute authority was challenged by the authority of Parliament.
Against this increasing opposition, the Patriarchalists emphasized the absolute right of the king, as the paternal head of state. In Patriarcha (composed in the late 1620s), Sir Robert Filmer said "many out of an imaginary fear pretend the power of the people to be necessary for the repressing of the insolencies of tyrants, herein they propound a remedy far worse than the disease"[2]
Filmer used genealogy as a way to legitimize kingship, by tracing the throne's origins back to the original fatherly rule of Adam.
Filmer argued that the king is the father; the relationship is not one of similarity, but of identity, the right of fathers having been passed down genealogically since Adam.
Stating that the ideal relationship was between a father and his son to indicate the "mutuall trust and Confidence" which was always necessary in the State, Kynaston put forward the view that the inferior (the people) ought not to plot against the superior (the king).[3]
Richard Mocket maintained that the maxim “Honor thy Father, and thy Mother” pertained to the political sphere rather than to the familial one since it had more to do with political obedience than with submission within the household[4]
Locke and Montesquieu were instrumental in the rejection of Patriarchalism.[5]
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5.0 out of 5 stars Violence and Alcohol never looked so cute
4.0 out of 5 stars Funny, Dark, Sarcastic Humor for the fun of it. A dark look at the mischievous ways of milk and cheese. These two dairy products are not the nice tasty treats some may remember. They are not politically correct, not polite, not even nice. Everyone is insulted, presidents, TV celebrities, products, religious groups. I loved them they are raunchy and wild and know how to use their mouths. The illustrations give full emotions to the characters.This is a big book with a lot of short quick laugh out loud stories stories for a quick fun. if you like dark snarky humor this is your book. Go to Amazon
5.0 out of 5 stars Are we throwing up or throwing down? Quickly arrived, and it's a beautifully well-made hardcover book. Not to mention the fact that I've been a Milk & Cheese fan since 1993, and can quote the crap out of them. Btw, the Michelin Man's name is Bibendum, everybody knows that! Go to Amazon
5.0 out of 5 stars A carton of hate and a wedge of spite For those who know Milk and Cheese, what more can I say that you don't already know?For those of you who are not familiar with these two lovable scamps, what have you been doing with your lives!? Is your life so full of meaning that you don't have time for the teachings and philosophy of the greatest comedy duo since Cain and Abel? Is your self loathing so low, that you are afraid to bask in the awesomeness contained between the covers of this beautiful hardback edition collecting the entire works of the apostle Milk and the Prophet Cheese? Are you a descendant of Merv Griffin and still wondering what is was all about?Well stop reading and order a dang copy already for the sake of your health, and by that, I mean, if you don't, M & C will find you, and they are not the kind of doctors you want making house calls! Go to Amazon
3.0 out of 5 stars Meh... To quote the book "They're not antisocial - They are anti-everything" sums the comic strip up quite well. If you remeber pop culture berween 1989 - 2011 you will appreciate the comics written and visual references/puns. Or if you ever visited NY or NJ some of the landmarks referenced should stand out too. Aside from that, the whole series is simply Milk & Cheese breaking things over people's heads, beating people up, throwing TV's and reeking utter havoc. The antics got old about 10 strips in. I had never heard of Milk & Cheese before - purchased the book on a whim as we needed something new and different. It was both. Go to Amazon
5.0 out of 5 stars A dark and hilarious evisceration of...EVERYTHING! From the back cover: "They're not antisocial- THEY'RE ANTI-EVERYTHING!" I don't know if I could sum up Milk and Cheese any better than that! This hardcover collection of every MILK AND CHEESE strip up through 2010 contains mostly one to four page "stories(?)" where the Dairy Products Gone Bad take on everything from Jury Duty, to The War On Drugs, to Star Wars to Halloween to....you get the picture: they really do hate EVERYTHING! Dorkin is a great (although sick) sense of humor and is a really talented artist. Highly recommended! Go to Amazon
5.0 out of 5 stars MERV GRIFFIN!!! I've been a huge fan of Evan Dorkin's work for years, ever since I first caught a single page Milk & Cheese strip in the back of an issue of a Cerebus reprint in the 90s. Back then when I found out they were recurring characters, all I could think was "Realy? That strip was funny as hell, but I don't see how more comics with the same one-dimensional gag could work." But damn, was I wrong! Milk & Cheese deliver the hate and rage time after time, and it's a testimony to Dorkin's wry brilliance that it somehow stays fresh.But that was more than a dozen years ago. Flash forward to 2014 and I was trying to come up with a cool gift for my teenage son who (like me) is a comic book loving cartoonist. I'm amazed I had somehow never given him any old Milk & Cheese comics as he was growing up, but when I saw this collection I was glad I hadn't. He LOVED it. He and I have spent hours reading this collection and laughing our asses off.So bravo, Evan Dorkin! Once again, the Pint of Hate and Wedge of Spite deliver their simple message of angst and violence to a new generation of readers, and inspire a kid to draw. Go to Amazon
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