#rogue trader endings

[kshert]

Of all the endings for Heinrix (with the romantic RT), the endings where Rogue Trader swears allegiance to the C'tan are my favorite. And this is not about which fate is best for Heinrix or anything.

There are two options for the final slide: 1) option is the same for a romance when Heinrix remains in the Inquisition and without a romance.

2) a true romance when he leaves the Inquisition.

I consider both slides important if there is romance. In short, I think both slides are about loyalty, but one is about RT and the other is about the Inquisition.

In the second option of the epilogue, staying in the Inquisition, Heinrix does what he must. He tries to kill the traitor. Even with a romance (which was a revelation for me when I was checking out different endings). His loyalty, despite his love for RT, belongs to the Inquisition and the Imperium. Does he mourn RT? I think yes. But duty and service to humanity are above any feelings. Now about the first option, which I love dearly and which gives me a lot of thoughts. (but mostly I make incoherent sounds of admiration.)

(And it is important to say that I perceive the epilogues as the records of an Imperial historian-chronicler. And from this point of view I confirm to us that Heinrix is a traitor for the Imperium. As he himself said.)

Woman he loves more than life betrays more than just him. RT is a traitor to the Imperium, to all of humanity, to life. And instead of killing her, as Heinrix does in the not-true-romance. He tries to appeal to heart (which is nonexistent) and mind. He is the only one in the retinue who does so. And he doesn't try to join the traitor, like Jae tries to do. Heinrix still has principles. "Working for the good of humanity" and serving the C'tan are contrary to that. RT has become everything to him, he trusts her and believes in her, loyalty bordering on obsession. And consciously or not, the attempt to convince her looks like a mirror image of what RT did to him. She appealed to his heart and mind, appealed to his humanity, saved him from himself. And now he is trying to do the same for her, to save her.

Could it be that the sudden betrayal has deprived him of common sense? Especially considering that he abandoned the Inquisition, became a heretic and replaced everything with serving RT. And now that she has betrayed him, he has nothing left. Only a desperate attempt to bring her back. (I can imagine that his thoughts at this moment are saturated with a desperate "please come back"). As an Ordo Xenos, Heinrix should know that convincing someone who has no heart and soul is objectively stupid.

There is so much angst, hopelessness, desperate faith and loyalty here. For me, this is the height of romance.

(I threw a lot of words and now I shut up :D And sorry for the mistakes if there are any.)

[cawyden-gaming]

Rogue Trader - Endings

I have updated the endings in my Excel list to include the DLC endings.

The banter list inside there is not up to date, but the complete list you can find from @themagnificentmags here

[jaal-ama-daravv]

I managed to finish RT in 4 days and this game is so detailed, I picked a wrong dialogue option back in Act 2 and I just..sob.

On to the next playthrough to secure him on my ship forever

[holly-bearie]

i am hoping to the high heavens that he's a dog dad... im planning my crime lord already 😍

[steelsuit]

Lady Cassia Orsellio

[reebls]

Pasqal, the space in my brain you take up is astronomical

[mainalias]

if you bring both heinrix and abelard with you in the act 2 dlc quest dark ablutions you get this gem

abelard you're already the best companion you can't also be funny

[rosykims]

i genuinely love love love the iconoclast path in rogue trader SO MUCH. its one of the things that ultimately enamors me to the warhammer franchise as a whole despite empathy being so antithetical to its world and genre. its not just because iconoclast is the Nice Person route or because it subverts the foundational principle that In The Grim Dark Universe There Is Only War............ but mostly i love it because its the best way to actually engage w the morality system presented in 40k and explore it the way it deserves to be explored. its so unique parsing through the choices of the game and navigating how one might actually ACHIEVE goodness through - or more accurately without - the lens of liberal modern morality. because adhering to what we presently would call morality is arguably crueler than some of the dogmatic choices - or at least the game wants you to reflect on that and decide if that kind of morality still has value or not. and i like that they give you the opportunity to do that. youre rarely rewarded for kindness in this game and in fact your oftentimes actively punished for it (void shadows was a TRIAL for my iconoclast rt) which presents another question: are you being good because of a reward you believe you'lll be entitled to, or are you being good for the sake of goodness itself??? in saying that i do LOVE how there IS payoff in the iconoclast route eventually - when youve bleed and suffered for it enough. but theres a quality to it thats so..... so BITTERSWEET, because yippee you Empathed your way to the top - but also what IS the top?? congratulations, you are the kindest autocrat in the most bloodthirsty fascist regime in human history, sitting on your throne on a voidship run by all your slaves and serfs who die by the hundreds every time you make a warpjump for some dumbass sidequest. what the fuck. can you actually call that goodness ????? is whatever goodness-adjacent thing youve achieved worth it even if you cant change the system in the ways that matter ??? lastly - the iconoclast ending is both so wildly universe-altering to the point of feeling like a heretical ending - but also kind of. not mattering really lol. because even though its hopeful, the "good" ending still feels soooo tentative with the likelihood that its very likely not going to last. but that in itself is my favorite take away from playing this game as The Last Good Guy in the Galaxy: because the love DIDNT change anything. and it DOESNT save anyone. but ohhhhhhhhh my fucking god does it absolutely matter that it was there.

[spiritsong]

viatrix, my rogue trader. my baby my baby. extraordinary telepath, okay diviner, deadeye. she has a weakness for latex gloves, punishing shoes, and lho-leaf.

(will share backstory in a reblog later i think <3)

[redstairs]

Marazhai meme drop

Many thanks to @lilac-lich for this one.

Bonus one for his Yrliet-tied Corsair ending:

[zenatness]

Who's ready to replay Rogue Trader once the new dlc drops? It's meeeeee

Patreon | redbubble

[thebrasspope]

ummm.... sorry to all ten people that followed me because of my previous post. uhhh... I'm crazy Rogue Trader pilled rn

Anyways, finally drew them kissing ^w^

[cawyden-gaming]

Have you done a post about harshness/mercy for heinrix/where to find those modifiers in toybox?

No, I haven't. But since you are asking, I actually did now.

That is going to be a long post....spoilers obviously, all acts + endings.

Summary:

His act 2 quest in Kiava Gamma affects the etudes InterrogatorQuestGoodOutcome and InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome - both affect his act 4 quest and the endings.

His act 4 quest has him acting differently depending on these etudes and sets / unlocks doubtful/stoic Heinrix flags- these can affect the ending too.

Here the toybox screenshots

Look under Etudes or Search'n Pick + Etudes and for "InterrogatorQuest" to get both Etudes. Romance can be started under Etudes too - etude name is just Heinrix (two entries).

Look under Search'n Pick + Flags and for "Heinrix" to see his DoubtfulHeinrix and StoicHeinrix flags.

Long story:

Harsh/mercy counter -> InterrogatorQuestGood/EvilOutcome

So far I noticed the Harsh/Mercy counters for Heinrix first quest on Kiava Gamma. When you speak with the Techpriest and when you encounter the mutants your dialog options set the harsh/mercy counter for Heinrix. This affects his response - if you have a higher harsh counter and then ask him for mercy/iconoclast he might not follow your request...

Here the tech priest dialog option:

Here for the mutants (it also checks the current value for the flags):

And here the effect of the flags if interacting with the cogitator:

Here in toybox it looks like the iconoclast option triggers the InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome. But: I tried it and took it and still I got the good outcome. So you can take it.

The outcome will set the Etudes InterrogatorQuestGoodOutcome and InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome which affect his endings (-> depending on other conditions - if he is romanced and leave the inquisition it seems it doesn’t have an effect).

2. Doubtful/stoic Heinrix Flags

There are also the two doubtful/stoic Heinrix flags. They are set in his act 4 quest (Emelina) depending on your choice. His responses here are also affected by the InterrogatorQuestEvil/GoodOutcome Etudes.

Depending on your dialog choice (Emelina asks you what you would have done) you will unlock doubtful or stoic flag:

His dialog is also different depending on the InterrogatorQuestGoodOutcome or InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome.

In the InterrogatorQuestGoodOutcome he will kill Emelina (directly)

in InterrogatorQuestEvilOutcome he will keep her alive to interrogate her and to extract information.

3. Endings in different combinations

I used my run (iconoclast/sided with Xavier but he gets killed in the epilog) and played around with the values. Here are the endings if non romanced:

InterrogatorQuestGoodEnding + Doubtful flag (unlocked):

InterrogatorQuestEvilEnding + Doubtful flag (unlocked):

InterrogatorQuestGoodEnding + Stoic (unlocked):

InterrogatorQuestEvilEnding + Stoic (unlocked):

InterrogatorQuestGoodEnding - no doubtful/stoic

- > same as stoic

InterrogatorQuestEvilEnding - no doubtful/stoic

-> same as stoic

Romanced

If he stays with RT:

No difference found between interrogator evil/good outcome or stoic/doubtful points if he stays with you (requires min. 3 corruption points -> starts etude Heresy). There is also an ending where he is not Master of Whispers - not clear yet how it is triggered.

If he remains with the Inquisition:

You get the romance slide that you have a long distance relationship until you both die and additionally the ending slides for what he does while he is in the inquisition (depending on the flags/etudes set in his quests).

I hoped this answers your question. There are more conditions for the endings of course, such as Xavier not dying for example. From what I heard, making Jae a shadow baron might also help Heinrix to stay alive when he would otherwise be assassinated....

[pheedraws]

[holly-bearie]

got to their first feast and was Not Disappointed holy Shit

[blesby]

Narrator: and now they’re full of cum

Been too tired to do anything with substance have a summary of their relationship