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Here is my recap of Everything’s Turning Up with Romy Rosemont episode of the podcast.

Today they have a really special friend and they are gabbing. They could talk all day. Kevin said I feel like you can get a good sense of what their relationships are like with all the people they have on and they are just kicking it and talking and having a good time.

Today is no exception because Romy Rosemont, Carole Hudson, Finn Hudson’s mother, who is a star and a sweet sweet person and an excellent baker and an excellent crier. The most fun person you will ever have on a tv or film set. Enjoy their conversation catching up with Romy Rosemont.

Jenna said lets go back to the beginning of Glee and asked Romy how she got the show. Romy said she was called in to audition for Jane’s part. She absolutely knew she wasn’t going to get it because she knew she needed to look like a cheerleader, like Megan Hilty, or look like Jane or Dot who have a presences. Kevin said they are are towering figures. Romy said they are just such a presences and she did the best she could. She knew she wasn’t going far because neither of them fit. She said she can tumble with the best of them. She can definitely do some comedy if someone wanted to lift her into a pyramid and fall down on cue. Then they called her in for Finn’s mom, Cory’s mom, when she saw it there were no lines. It was Ryan saying, she had to throw the milk carton and weep and yell, whatever that was, wear the bike shorts. Her hair was so large. She said when they were shooting the pilot, she worked for two days, Ryan was like and then I am going to do this and then I am going to do this. Jenna said and then you got inklings of things that were coming and knew that she was a recurring character, so she knew she was coming back. Romy said yeah but she never believes that. Kevin said you’ve been around too long and know better to trust that. Romy said so she didn’t know and all Ryan said was that he was interested in telling the story of a single mother with the high school quarter back who is in Glee club. She said they thinks they started where they were really poor and haggard and whatever and she was always asking so what does Carole do. What’s she do, does she work at a bank, nope no one? Kevin said that’s for you to figure out. Romy said that’s my back story but it didn’t matter because you never saw Carole away from the house which is Finn, Burt, or Kurt. She said that was their running joke that later in the season Carole was in the basement. Once she got married, once Burt happened, she was watching and was like they had prom and was like oh I’m in the basement. She said what was amazing is no one even referenced her and they didn’t even have to do that much. It was so hilarious at one time she was like did Burt kill me. I thought Burt murdered Carole. Romy said those were good times. Jenna said that basement was very cobwebby and dirty. Romy said it was.

Jenna said she was reading a document their wonderful producers made and it said Romy was in 18 episodes but it felt like a hell of a lot more of then that. Romy said that’s what people say. Kevin said only 18 episodes. Jenna said that’s what I’m saying. Romy said she thinks that because, Kevin joked smoke that imaginary cigarette, when she comes on their was a presence and she was somebody’s mom. She said what she treasures were those intimate scenes that she and Cory had that she thinks that kids could relate to. She said that is what she got from any kind of fans was I wish you could be my mom. Kevin said Carole and Burt were the model parents for anyone. He said he thinks also the complicated situations they were both in in your own right individually and how those characters navigated them so gracefully, eloquently, trying to say the right thing but as human as it is, it’s going to be a little imperfect which makes it even more relatable. He said watching you and Mike O’Malley at the standing at the alter was just..Jenna said the sweetest…Kevin said also you wear yr heart on your sleeve and he feels like a good gust of wind and you might tear up a bit which makes him tear up because she is the sweetest, most giving, caring person and then watching you two he was like oh god I can’t watch them. Then Mike O’Malley’s about to cry during the reception. Kevin was like these too. He said he has been told his whole life that he is cold. Romy said she does not find that at all. Kevin said no one gets him like Romy. He loses his shit and it’s a testament to her ability as an actor and her just as a person and that is why it feels like she was in more then 18 episodes. He said yes Jane and Dot have a presences but ooh so you do you.

Romy said she never understood why Carole and Kurt didn’t have a me independent relationship because he lost his mother and then his dad marries the woman who is the mother of someone who he has a massive crush on. To her their were opportunities to dive into those topics and discover it or just they did it with one scene, she knows they are doing Furt today, she said that scene where she thinks Finn got Quinn pregnant. She said she figures that is the difficult things about telling stories with recurring characters because no matter what the recurring character has to be there with whoever they are attached to but she doesn’t necessarily believe that. You can find that conversation that is just between Carole and Burt, it’s like for the parents. Romy said she has a stepson and in the beginning its hard because you don’t have a voice. It was kind of dramatic license that Burt was so involved in Finn’s life, Finn wouldn’t have been that embracing to someone taking, you know what I mean, that kind of wouldn’t happen. You honor the script that has been written and she appreciates that and thank you. Jenna said there also 25 characters on this show. Romy said and there also bright shiny objects that became important in selling it and the powers that be deciding that. She said you aren’t going to say if Sarah Jessica Parker, let’s say, says ooh I want to do some. As a business person you aren’t going to say no. She said also you guys wearing as many a hats as you guys do as business people which is why you have a successful podcast their are certain decisions you might not have made as just Jenna and Kevin. They both said you are right. Kevin said it’s like instead of doing this extra scene we could throw in another song and then put that on that soundtrack that is selling.

Kevin asked if Romy would have felt comfortable raising those thoughts to the posers that be or no. Romy said their wasn’t the room. She wasn’t invited to that room for that conversation so her job was to, she said she always looks at a job as a success if she walks away with a friend and was a good experience. She said it was overflowing with Glee. Kevin said you can’t get rid of us. Romy joked that she’s tried. She said she literally could have given birth to everyone, maybe not Jane and Dot, but on the whole. There are people that would have and in that way she respects the positions.

Jenna asked what was Romy’s experience or does she remember the first time she worked with Cory, the first scene they shot together. What was it like when they shot scenes together. Romy said she met Cory very briefly during the pilot because she didn’t work with adult Cory, she worked with child Cory. So she didn’t get to work with him until that scene where he hits the mailman. That very brief thing. Kevin said but one of the best. Romy said she was very taken with his manner. He was just such a sweet soul. Then when they had to do the more dramatic, intense, emotional stuff he was always like I can’t cry, I just can’t cry. Romy said you don’t have to but you definitely can. She said he thinks that he so much wanted to be good and she respected that. She remembers even when the shot Furt and they were at that weird churchy thing and he was panicked that the paparazzi were going to see and they would no the storyline. Jenna said aww. Romy said he would have his coat up and she was like we’re good. She said he believed in the show and wanted to protect the surprise and all of that. She said she considers herself very very lucky that they got paired because let’s face it they don’t look alike at all. Jenna said such a good pairing. Kevin said your chemistry together was unreal. Romy said she thinks he felt that too and that he felt like I get to act today. Jenna said, yep, totally. Romy said she was flattered and honored to be a part of that because it was just the two of them until Carole and Burt got married in the second season. Kevin said anytime their was sort of what they would say was an adult in the scene they were like oh god we have to get our shit together to keep up. They were used to being clowns in the choir room, singing a song, making ‘em laugh. The teen drama stuff is so funny and fun but when the adults came out you knew it was time. Romy said hopefully what they learned from the adults was that you can’t stop having fun. It freaks her out when people are too serious. She is like wait come on. Kevin said you are the reigning champ. You are the most fun on set. They have talked about the alcohol escapades before. Romy said it was this episode that started it. Kevin and Jenna both said it was this episode. Romy said everybody was done, everybody was done working and they were just sitting there. Romy said there was just a little bit of dance and whatever and she pulled out a bottle of patron. Jenna said she pulled it out of a black duffel bag, she was like what. Romy came in wearing a wedding dress with a black duffle bag and and pulls out a bottle of patron. Jenna said they were like Romy. Kevin said there is a reason I don’t remember doing that number at the reception. Romy said this was the first time she was like oh my god these kids can drink, holy crap. She said she was not, she loves her tequila and she has one maybe two. She said she doesn’t know if it was Lea or Heather might have ended that bottle or two. She can’t remember if she brought one or two bottles.

Jenna said there was another wedding day where they were like let’s do it it again. Romy said that was the one where the took shots with Gloria Estefan. Jenna said we did take shots with Gloria Estefan at the ranch for the Brittana wedding. Romy said Yes! Kevin said he as so excited and was like do you think Romy has the booze today. Romy said she has that picture and that is when she brought that snuggy. Kevin and Jenna got into it together and Jenna got scared. Kevin said what a weird time, Gloria Estefan, Jennifer Coolidge, and Gina Gershwin…what is happening. He said he remembers being in crafty with Gina Gershon and I don’t know, I don’t think I can, I have to leave. He said he couldn’t be alone with anyone, he was like I don’t know how to operate like a normal human. Jenna said it was an overwhelming wedding. Romy said totally overwhelming and she felt like she was old hat, she pretended to smoke a cigarette, and was like come on ladies follow me. Kevin said yes, they were in good hands. Jenna said the cast chairs were all the way down in like a really big trailer because there were so many of us. Romy said, yeah in that white trailer and it was freezing. Jenna said hey we’re in heels and their was dirty everywhere. Kevin said in the mountains. Romy said that wardrobe they put the moms in was just something. They were definitely something. Jenna said it was fancy. Kevin said you know what we could have more of us was more mom musical numbers. Jennas said definitely. Kevin said that was a treat. He said by that point he didn’t know what was happening, he doesn’t know if he didn’t read the script, talk about being unprofessional. Jenna said definitely didn’t read the script. Kevin said when the moms started performing and they are in the scene he was like wait what is this. Romy said this was the first time she really experienced Chord. Kevin and Jenna just laughed. Kevin said one of his favorite things is for people to experience Chord for the first time. Romy said she was like huh, alright, yeah I like it, it was definitely like okay I can’t believe this has taken me this long. Kevin said such a character. Jenna said it was Brad Buecker. Romy said because she didn’t have a wedding in real life, she eloped, for her wedding that was a full blown wedding. She has only worn wedding dresses on film. She said her own wedding dress she got for $63 dollars at Lowmans. Kevin said that’s right. Romy said it was because she was going to walk into the water. Jenna said you wear it once and it goes into a box. Romy said that Jenna’s was so gorgeous that Emma’s got to wear it. Jenna said she preserved it and hopes Emma breaks it up and makes little purses. Kevin said a crop top. Jenna said their is this woman that this gorgeous Japanese fabric from her great-grandmothers wedding and was like I can’t wait to take this and make it into purses for my brides maids. It was like the most gorgeous dress and people came at her. Jenna said she can do what she wants with it but the people online came after her and were like you are going to make it into purses and rip it up. Kevin said did she do it. Jenna said I don’t know, I want to know, I’m sure she did. You are gong to do what you want to do and you should. Romy said it’s her dress. Jenna said exactly her grandma gave it to her. Romy said people got to get out of other peoples business. Jenna said everybody thinks they have liberties.

Romy said because A. I am not a name and B. I’m always playing sympathetic characters on a whole she kind of dodged the hecklers so to speak. Kevin said they have had a couple people on and they have talked about playing an unlikeable character and the stuff they would get online, the hate, was omg. Jenna said horrible. Romy said it’s insane. Romy said a friend of hers from high school has been on the Young and the Restless literally since the dinosaur age, don’t repeat that because its rude. She said she has built herself such and amazing career but she used to get followed in her car. They were in peoples homes int he middle of the day, everyday, and they are positive they know them. Romy said she would get threats and it was insane. Jenna said those day times soaps are something. Romy said it’s a religion. Kevin said he grew up watching General Hospital with his mom. Jenna said Guiding Light. Romy said the summer between her freshman and sophomore year and her sophomore and junior year in college she worked for General Hospital. The first summer she worked in the front office and the second summer she worked for the writers.

Kevin said when did you decide, you worked all these jobs from the age of 12. Romy said her dad was a producer. Kevins aid you clearly were in the entertainment business from childhood, Romy said was exposed to it, but when did you start actually being like I need to be in front of the camera, I need to act. Romy said she always wanted to but she was insecure. She said she was never pretty enough or character enough and so confidence that she was funny, she knew that but ther was no bells and whistles to it. She didn’t have a funny voice and wasn’t really charactery. She said it still happens but people didn’t know what to do with her because she didn’t know where she fit in. She did a lot of improve in college and thinks like that. When she graduated she worked in ICM and CAA for a year and a half. Kevin said did you do acting in college, did you go to school for that? Romy said she was a theatre major and switched to radio, tv, film, at Northwestern. That is where she discovered improv and hat her brain worked that way. She said it took her a long time and she pushed like nobodies business in comedy and that is the worst thing you could do. She said she really didn’t know she could do drama and she did the 100th episode of Ally McBeal and she was like oh god crying comes easy. From then on, people were like, oh she know, Jenna said cry, Romy said she could cry so she was always the crying mother. She said they used to joke around that she should have a reel of snot cry, choke cry, hysterical crying, all of that. It would be like a menu. Jenna said which would you like. Romy said then just give me a minute to listen a sad song. Jenna said that is when she remembers meeting her for the first time. She remembers Romy being on set, maybe it was when Finn was singing to the sonogram, she remembers Romy was listening to her ipod. Romy said do you remember this, Jenna and Lea came up to her and said the had seen something, they were so sweet. She was aware that Jenna was not in the first cast of Spring Awakening and she was listening to Pretty in Summer, the one where she is saying she was molested, she was listening to that and was just like what this is crazy. Jenna said that is where she got the music from when they decided Tina was gong to cry all the time. Romy said it literally says crying list. She said if the material is good. She said especially if you’ve got ADD, her ability to carry on many conversations at once is high, but if her job is to do this then she was like oh I need a way to stay in that because she won’t. That’s why she will put on music. Kevin said that is interesting. Romy said people saw the headphones coming out and she would be amazed when they would be like what are you listening to, are you listening to something to make you cry. Jenna said what did you eat this morning. Kevin said are you good at crying. Romy said just finished playing something were she plays a very officious person to the nth degree and she got home and was like I kind of missing crying, I kind of want to cry. She said it’s been awhile since she had to pretend cry. Jenna said that’s really really funny. Kevin said he could have used that playlist trick, he could have used that. Jenna said she needed it because of her crap wasn’t about crying or about sad content, that’s the thing, it came out of nowhere. She was cringing while singing My Funny Valentine and you are like how do you make that work, it’s supposed to be funny, but she still had to cry.

Romy said there were times she would get the the first draft and be like Carole has some good stuff, then she would get the second she would be like okay I can still make that work and then she would get the shooting script and she would have Hitchcock coming up to her and being like I’m so sorry we’ve taken out all the transitions. She said that happened when she told the truth about Finn’s dad. There was supposed to be this whole thing leading up to that and they took it all away and she had to literally go from 0 to 60 and you are like everyone out of my way, I’ve got some snot to make. Jenna said, yes, yes, yes, exactly. Kevin said you and Viola Davis. Romy mentioned Truly, Madly, Deeply. She said be ready it’s emotional. It’s with Juliet Stevenson and Alan Rickman. She said it’s kind of like Ghost. She said Juliet had scene where she is a full on, you know those times where you are crying so hard you choke, it’s coming out of everywhere. It was this independent film and she was mesmerized because it was so real. It’s hard to make network stuff real because there is a formula and people have to be brave and try to make it be real but you can’t be brave unless you have stature sometimes. Kevin said he as going to ask how you do it. Network stuff is hard to make and making grounded network stuff is hard to make. Glee wasn’t the necessarily the most grounded show on the planet but your stuff always was. Are you conscious of genere, like the type of show you are on, or is it a scene by scene basis, these are the scenes I am in and this how they read to me so this is what we are doing or are you thinking on a larger scale, macro level of what the show is and the network it is on? Romy said not network, not any of that, she said she thinks you need have to get the tone of the show but in those moments because she does believe that as wild and Glee was you have to have the other stuff or it’s too much. Jenna said totally. You literally have to have that quiet moment. It went from Finn singing to a sonogram, bonkers, to his mom coming in being like what are you, and then realizing oh shit, he’s gotten someone pregnant. She said to her the only way to do that is to play it real. Her trick if there are no transitions is you talk like a human. People don’t talk everything out like it’s a script. We do pause or mumble, or repeat ourselves or whatever. She said that’s what she does, she tries not to rehearse it even in her head as much. She really trusts, to her if its in something where you’ve got another partner, she tries to find a common ground Brent the partner, whatever that is, and therefore there is a chemistry. She said we can all pretend their is chemistry between someone but you can’t replace the real stuff. She said that is what is unique about all of you guys is that all of you had chemistry together. That was rare and it was definitively a unicorn. It wouldn’t have if you was just you were watching separate things. Kevin said you can feel that as a viewer, you might not be conscious that is what you are feeling but you know it’s not exactly right or as magical or magnetic as it could be. Romy said it’s part of the job so she always thinks when she gets something really bad and she has to do it she just does it.. Kevin said it if it’s particularly something you don’t think is of quality it can be another challenge of how do I make this work. Romy said she did two seasons of something. She said on a television show when you have a bunch of characters of different ages and stuff like that it has to be represented. Kevin said people talk differently.

Romy said when you have a younger single person dialogue it’s going to be mom dialogue so her job is to throw in the noises. Kevin said the acting school of Romy. Kevin and Jenna said that is what I need. Romy said she just finished something with Pete Holmes. She is 5’4 and he is 6’6 and she as his superiors in this show, they were interrogation agents. She said some of the stuff they had to keep repeating and a lot of her stuff was looks and at some point she was like I am fresh out of, I can’t. She was back and forth and she was like I think I need a little bobo right up here. Kevin said bobo is Botox for those in the know. Romy was like not too much, then it hit, and she was in make-up and there was no surprise. She said I will never do that again. She said their was a lot of big eyes and mouth open. Jenna was laughing. Romy was like oh dear that is not going to turn out well. Jenna said it is always fun to work with funny people. She said they were always sitting and there was a scene where she was standing and all of a sudden he goes you’re tiny. Jenna said you just figured this out now. Romy said your 6’6 and he goes we are always sitting. She said and think about it Cory was 6-3, she is always with super tall people. Jenna said they were in like four different cars going from one city to another on the Hot Topic tour very early on in the the Glee life and they stopped at a gas station to pee and get some snacks. Cory gets out, all the girls had finally taken their heels off, and he looks at them at the gas station and was like fuck I’m tall. Kevin laughing said I remember this. Jenna said Cory said you are short and they were like we know, it was Jenna, Amber, and Lea all next to each other and they are like average 5’2 maybe. Cory was like god. Kevin said had completely forgotten about that, he was in the next aisle. Romy said that is hilarious.

Jenna said so you came back even after Cory passed away, she said obviously that isn’t what we were thinking about but did Romy think oh that’s it for my character or did you think there was stuff because of Burt and Kurt and everything. Romy said no she didn’t think she would be back. She said when she found out they were doing that we don’t know how Finn passed she said she hoped she would be part of that. She said when Jenna and her had a scene, in a hotel room at regionals, she never thought she would be back. Kevin said that makes sense. She said you know because Chris wasn’t even there because it was later on. Jenna said yeah he was off in New York. Romy said she was very very very surprised. Jenna said she didn’t even think about that. Romy said she wasn’t in the last season of a Million Little Things, it was a half season, she was only in 9 episodes. Jenna said wow. Romy said when you are dealing with an ensemble cast there are so many stories to tell, that is the kiss of death for a recurring unless the arc is about that person. Kevin said what we would have done. Jenna said and obviously the last one where everyone came back. Romy said remember Furt, Carol Banker directed it, she remembers everyone walks down and then she walks down, and cut. Carol goes you are mouthing the words but don’t need you to sing. Romy said yes oh my god. Romy said time and time again she just got so into the Marry You song she was no I’m not and Carol was like I have it on film. She said she remembers it was crazy for everyone else if you think about production but it was super fun. Jenna so much fun. Kevin said we have a blast. Jenna said she remembers this one. There are some episodes that kind of go by the way side and there are some like Furt that are very vivid. Kevin said it is also help connecting to a place that is different then what they were used to seeing every single day and the Tequila. That was memorable. Jenna said of course. Romy said Tequila brings people. Kevin said oh it did, when that happened they were like she is amazing. Jenna said can we have Carole come back all the time. Romy said she bakes.

Jenna asked Romy what is the feeling that Glee leaves you with now. Romy said that she takes away all the positive stuff which was friends and it was definitely an opportunity for her. There was the negative parts of it which was like that she never got to audition for anything else on Fox for 6 years but only did 18 episodes. When she found that out she was like wait this is keeping me from potential working. That was upsetting on another level. Jenna said an actor level. Romy said also on a what is fair level. It just didn’t seem totally fair. She said she always gets excited to see all of them in real life and that wouldn’t happened if they didn’t have that. She said she might have gotten disappointed in the lack of stuff sometimes but the experience for her was only positive. She wished she had more or a stronger storyline or a more challenging one but when she was there she always had a blast. Jenna said they always had a blast with her. Kevin said you made it a blast for everyone else too. Jenna said you also brought us a lot of bake goods. Romy said you helped me think about tiny bites even though it didn’t turn into anything. She brought muffins and everyone would only eat half. She was like no that doesn’t work and brought them in as balls and then squares. Kevin said he remembers the trays. Jenna said she remembers the tiny bites a lot. Kevin said delicious. Romy said you could totally double fist. Kevin said he wouldn’t have left half a muffin. Jenna said Kevin would never have left half a muffin but she might have left half a muffin. Romy said because you had to get into those costumes. Jenna said exactly. Kevin said everyone is so tiny, as he has been watching he noticed everyone is so little, and skinny. Romy said you guys were young. Jenna said exactly they were in their heyday. Romy said Chris was 18 and asked Kevin if he was the next youngest. Kevin said yes, until Chord came around. Chord is between Kevin and Chris. Jenna said what a time, children, truly children. Romy said now you have your own, that is bonkers. Jenna said that is such bonkers. She said they were watching an episode the night before and her husband turned to her, because she makes him watch them all with her, and said that’s Emma’s mom and she was like that’s really sweet. Kevin said aww. Romy said that’s so sweet. Jenna said you don’t think about it that way, but then she was like oh god she will never watch this show…I’m just kidding, one day. Romy said when she starts dancing and stuff like that. Jenna said her nieces started watching it when they were little, just the musical numbers, except for Push It.

Jenna said anyways, we love you, and they are so grateful to have her as a friend. Romy said I love you guys and thank you. Kevin said thank you for spending this much time with us today. Romy said you know I wish that it was in person. Jenna and Kevin said I love you to her and Romy said bye bye.

Jenna said we warned you. Kevin said we could talk for days. So much love. It doesn’t have to be about anything, we just talk. Jenna said I know, got to love her.

Until next week.

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