I don’t think I talk about this alot here, but I enjoy historical Chinese and Korean dramas.
Just finished Ruyi’s Royal Love in the Palace. Had a blast. Planning to watch Empresses in the Palace next. 👌
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How exactly do consorts and concubines get the "names"? In Legend of Ruyi, we hear names like Xian, Yu, Jia, Shu, etc. Do these names have any specific meaning?
The names like Xian, Jia, Shu etc. are granted titles or fenghao 封号 given to consorts. Usually only those with the ranks of pin and up will have granted titles, because only ranks of pin and up 1) have formal ceremony (册封) to canonise their title and 2) only pin and up would be entitled to wear court attire and attend formal rites and ceremonies.
Of course in dramas you will see concubines lower than the rank of pin have fenghao and it’s either just not explained (Yuyan as Jia Guiren) or passed off in the drama as at the discretion of the emperor (Zhen Huan as Wan Changzai).
Anyway, fenghao are likely chosen by the Ministry of Rites 礼部. The meaning of each fenghao can have pretty broad interpretations because of the way Chinese works, one character’s will have a general meaning but the specific can change depending on when you pair that character with another, but generally characters used as fenghao would all carry auspicious meanings or highlight the virtues of consort.
娴 xian - elegant. I’m reading way too much into this, but in the context of Legend of Ruyi, I wonder if there is also some subtle messaging considering part of the title contains the character 闲 which means idle, leisurely, unoccupied, which is basically the life that Ruyi wishes she has, for every to just leave her the hell alone and she’ll leave them alone, but never could have. Also another person who wishes for this and can’t have it is Fan Xian, whose name is actually is xian 闲.
愉 yú - pleasant, pleased, delighted. Hailan was granted this title when she gave birth to Yongqi and Qianlong explained it was because she had pleased him by having a son. Not to be confused with 豫 yù which is Eyinzhu’s title which also means happy.
慧 hui - intelligent. The Empress Dowager had a whole spiel about how this title for Xiyue is ironic because she really is…not. Which could just be Qianlong going I wish she would be more intelligent.
令 ling - The Chinese Wikipedia says that this title derives from the Manchurian word mergen which means intelligent and wise, so clearly Qing dynasty fenghao also take into consideration the Manchurian equivalent/meanings of the words.
嘉 jia - blessing/praise; 純 chun - pure; 舒 shu - comfortable, leisurely
An aside re fenghao in Legend of Zhen Huan
It’s always so funny to me that when An Lingrong was made a consort, the officials initially prepared as one of the choices for her fenghao the character 丽 (meaning beautiful) and Yongzheng vetoed it because it the character 丽 is part of some saying that extols the harmony between husband and wife, and Lingrong can’t bear this title because she’s not his wife, and this is the reason Zhen Huan suggested modifying the title to 鹂, a type of bird, probably knowing that Lingrong would hate it.
And I’m just…
WHO THE HELL IS THIS THEN??
Of course, the whole thing with Lingrong’s title is also just to highlight how precarious Lingrong’s situation then is and her promotion was a pity promotion because she was pregnant and she’s not actually that in favour.
Anyway, other concubines of lower ranks would be called by title of address 称号 chenghao, which are usually a character from their surname, their father’s name or their own name. Hai Guiren comes from Hailan’s name, An Lingrong was called An Daying/Changzai/Guiren/Pin for a long time from her surname.
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If I said I wanted to write a transmigration fic where Qianlong dies, gets jumped by his ancestors (specifically his aunties) and then had to do life all over again from the day he ascended the throne and NOT screw up this time, would anyone read that?
I'll probably write it anyway, but like, lemme know if you want to see it
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i haven’t been so excited about a game in a long time!! i’ve been hoping someone would make a game with similar themes for a while and i’m definitely here to follow this game wherever it goes
That’s so sweet, thank you! And I feel you. There’s such a lack of palace drama games I basically had to make my own to cope. Rewatching magnificent century, Zhen huan and Ruyi wasn’t enough.
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