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[saimotass]

unfortunately i do like the coffin of andy and leyley. however! i'm not one of those weirdos that ships andrew and ashley together, and you shouldn't be either! anyway more thoughts on my stance below the cut

i'm not a fan of the fact that the incest is there - i understand why, as another way that ashley can manipulate andrew's emotions and affections, and it's supported as an interpretation in the text. but their relationship could still be just as toxic and codependent as it is in-game without that being a canonized route. the overtones and subtext will be there regardless, and i do view it as part of andrew's character that he has a subconscious attraction to ashley, but there are other ways for their dynamic to change other than canonizing and romanticizing the romantic undertones of their relationship.

i understand that it's fictional and that it's also not the only morally reprehensible thing that the graves siblings do in the game. however, the incestuous dynamic between them only manifests on the route where they're both still alive and both coming to more of an understanding with one another. while, yes, neither route is a particularly good one for either of them, the questionable route being an offshoot of the burial route (the route where ashley continues to get everything she wants out of andrew) inherently paints the dynamic as a better solution than ashley and andrew getting their comeuppance for their crimes.

i am aware that not every story needs a moral backbone - some of the best stories have reprehensible things happen in them and their perpetrators never see retribution. however, when people outside of those stories read them, they affect reality and their perception of it. all good stories do. no matter what, fiction does affect reality and the way we interact with it, because fiction is inherently based in reality - even sci-fi, fantasy, speculative fiction.

people actively shipping and glorifying the incestuous dynamic between andrew and ashley affects the perception of incestuous dynamics in the real world for those people. ignoring the manipulative tactics that led to that route leads to more tolerance of those manipulative tactics. even when people claim that they know better, it still affects their perception, even the slightest bit. and people who aren't aware of the context seeing their incestuous relationship being glorified will assume the context makes the situation more palatable than it actually is.

ashley's been really good at manipulation thus far, it stands to reason that she could probably figure out a way to keep andrew along without resorting to incest. he's already pretty clearly devoted to her as an older brother, she could keep using their familial relationship as a means of manipulating him, or hell, eventually if andrew ends up fighting back there could be a route where she kills him and ends up using another person later, this time with romantic and/or sexual motivations. i've seen suggestions that it could even end up being julia, which would both make sense and add to the fucked up nature of ashley's motivations and manipulation.

andrew's underlying attraction to his sister could be refuted more openly and clearly. his reactions to other people noticing their dynamic could be more overtly against the idea. he could start trying to distance himself from her as a means of putting a boundary. he could be more forceful with setting up that boundary with her when she teases him about it. all of the reactions in-game lead people to assume that andrew wants this, potentially even more than ashley, and that because of that, it's okay because they're "consenting" to it.

there is no consent in this relationship - ashley has been manipulating him since they were kids, their power dynamic is uneven and leads to ashley taking advantage of his emotions, and ashley's been essentially grooming him into seeing her as the only woman in his life for years at this point. not saying andrew is without fault here, but putting myself in that position, if i had a younger sister who threatened me for a murder i was an unwilling accomplice to, all because she was jealous that i was starting to have a life of my own with people that aren't her, i would have felt similarly helpless.

[saimotass]

not to be contrarian and showing my whole anti-ouma ass here but i think a lot of ppl misinterpret ouma as a character in favor of making him their uwu soft boy seme that did nothing wrong.

ouma is not uncomfortable with lying to the group. ouma does not lie in order to help everyone around him (at least, not until around the end of chapter 4 going into chapter 5). ouma's lying is not meant to be a benefit to anyone else. ouma does not lie for noble reasons.

ouma is lying in order to stay alive. he is lying so that he can always have a leg up on everybody else. he lies so that he can win the game. he tells lies specifically for his own benefit, even if it costs everyone else their lives. and sometimes, he lies simply because he sees it as a fun distraction and a way to confuse everyone.

there is no nobler strategy for ouma when he lies to people. he's not lying so that he can save everyone else. he's not lying because he's scared for the others.

kokichi ouma lies because he's scared for himself and himself alone.

[saimotass]

danganronpa but the wheel decides what ships are the best (part 1)

these are all THH ships. there are 119 total 2-person ships here. (that is excluding despair sisters because they're literally sisters and if you ship them i do not want you ANYWHERE near me and i hate you.) i randomize the wheel twice prior to each spin so it's truly random. full ranking (according to the wheel) is below.

Kyouko x Touko (first wlw ship on the list)

Celes x Sakura

Leon x Mukuro (first het ship on the list)

Aoi x Kiyotaka

Chihiro x Mukuro (first nb ship on the list)

Kiyotaka x Leon (first mlm ship on the list)

Byakuya x Kiyotaka

Touko x Yasuhiro

Sakura x Yasuhiro

Byakuya x Junko

Chihiro x Hifumi

Aoi x Hifumi

Kyouko x Mondo

Celes x Chihiro

Leon x Sakura

Celes x Sayaka

Byakuya x Touko

Mondo x Yasuhiro

Aoi x Celes

Kiyotaka x Sayaka

Kiyotaka x Sakura

Kiyotaka x Makoto

Celes x Kiyotaka

Hifumi x Kyouko

Junko x Makoto

Byakuya x Chihiro

Byakuya x Mukuro

Hifumi x Junko

Aoi x Leon

Hifumi x Mukuro

Leon x Touko

Chihiro x Sakura

Celes x Junko

Aoi x Yasuhiro

Celes x Mukuro

Celes x Mondo

Byakuya x Kyouko

Makoto x Mukuro

Hifumi x Sayaka

Chihiro x Leon

Chihiro x Yasuhiro

Aoi x Sakura

Aoi x Mukuro

Kiyotaka x Kyouko

Kiyotaka x Mondo

Celes x Yasuhiro

Byakuya x Mondo

Hifumi x Leon

Junko x Mondo

Leon x Sayaka (first canonical killer x victim ship on the list)

Chihiro x Makoto

Byakuya x Leon

Hifumi x Sakura

Makoto x Sayaka

Byakuya x Hifumi

Chihiro x Kyouko

Celes x Makoto

Hifumi x Yasuhiro

Mondo x Touko

Leon x Mondo

Hifumi x Makoto

Kyouko x Makoto

Kyouko x Leon

Celes x Hifumi

Byakuya x Sakura

Junko x Touko

Hifumi x Kiyotaka

Sakura x Touko

Junko x Kyouko

Byakuya x Sayaka

Junko x Leon

Chihiro x Sayaka

Kyouko x Sayaka

Byakuya x Makoto

Kiyotaka x Mukuro

Aoi x Junko

Junko x Kiyotaka

Sayaka x Touko

Byakuya x Yasuhiro

Aoi x Touko

Kyouko x Sakura

Hifumi x Mondo

Leon x Makoto

Mukuro x Sayaka

Byakuya x Celes

Sayaka x Yasuhiro

Leon x Yasuhiro

Mukuro x Sakura

Sakura x Sayaka

Mondo x Mukuro

Kyouko x Yasuhiro

Aoi x Sayaka

Aoi x Byakuya

Mukuro x Touko

Celes x Kyouko

Hifumi x Touko

Celes x Touko

Aoi x Chihiro

Mukuro x Yasuhiro

Kiyotaka x Yasuhiro

Makoto x Mondo

Kyouko x Mukuro

Junko x Yasuhiro

Junko x Sayaka

Makoto x Sakura

Makoto x Yasuhiro (last mlm ship on the list)

Mondo x Sakura

Mondo x Sayaka

Chihiro x Junko

Chihiro x Touko

Chihiro x Mondo (last canonical killer/victim ship on the list)

Celes x Leon

Junko x Sakura

Kiyotaka x Touko

Aoi x Kyouko (last wlw ship on the list)

Chihiro x Kiyotaka (last nb ship on the list)

Aoi x Makoto

Makoto x Touko

Aoi x Mondo (last het ship on the list)