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agentrouka-blog · 2 months
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“Sandra Bolton” and “Sandra Lannister” reek of victim blaming, probably from people who fancy themselves feminists, but only for their right kind of girl/woman.
I think it goes beyond victim blaming to a gleeful pleasure they take in Sansa's suffering.
You see, for some "feminists" forced marriage or violent abuse are fully acceptable punishments. For the right kind of girl/woman, as you say.
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okay. gonna go through the members of the cpds one by one and try to figure out why they are in university for a bizarre amount of time. basically just need most of them to still be there in 2016 (ppgw filmed), and at least a few in 2017 (accgw). in my timeline of events, tptgw took place in 2012, and the staged version of ppgw (i believe the staged and filmed versions are two separate things that happened at different times, because it better suits my timeline) happened in 2014.
chris: presumably on the wealthier side (described as a philanthropist in the tptgw programme, and in a different version of it, he was the one who received a large inheritance from his grandfather, not max) so it’s plausible that he easily did another degree. alternatively, since the polytechnic thank him for said philanthropic efforts, he may have just stuck around, even if not actually studying.
robert: this one’s fine, because it’s said in the ppgw programme that he’s not actually studying at the polytechnic (he’s working as a janitor). so he can be there as long as he wants.
max: only in his first year of studying during tptgw. this means it should last until 2014/2015 if he completed it first try. him being here longer than that is fairly easy to explain though — it’s incredibly plausible that he had to repeat a year or two like trevor did, because we know max isn’t the brightest (affectionate). he also has a rich family, so he could also have easily taken another course, but i believe it’s the first because according to one version of the tptgw programme, this was already his second time at a uni (before attending cornley polytechnic, he graduated from rada).
sandra: this one i’m not sure what to do about. in tptgw programme, it’s said she’s been there for almost 3 years (or 11 seasons) which means by that point, she should be almost finished her degree. i don’t think it’s as plausible to say she had to repeat, since she seems like she’d be dedicated to finishing, and even if she had to repeat one year only once, that’s still nowhere near enough. i suppose that means she took another course, but i don’t know how many more rich members i can handle. she’s a major question mark for me.
dennis: same as max, he’s only in his first year during tptgw, and i would very much believe he had to repeat, probably several times.
annie: kind of figured out? in tptgw, she’s been there for 3 years, meaning she’s getting close to finishing her course. she’s one i definitely believe came back for a second course — it says that she’ll be leaving for an internship at the bolton octagon, so that implies to me that this is after finishing her current course. given that that’s presumably a stage managing job, i’d assume she studied something in that area during those years. by the time of staged ppgw, she’s back, and now studying cognitive behavioral therapy and pottery. if we say her first year was 2014, that plausibly gets her to 2016 at least, probably 2017 (if it’s a four year course). she never gave me the vibe of being a nepo baby, but according to her twitter account, her father owns an oil company, which screams rich to me.
jonathan: another question mark. we don’t know when he started attending the polytechnic, but i’d guess he isn’t in his first year. like sandra, i don’t find it as believable that he’d have to repeat, so that implies a new course again, but cmon how many of them are doing that.
trevor: probably the one we know the most about, in terms of his courses. we know he was on his final year for the third time in staged ppgw. but i’m not sure how he stuck around. do i really believe he had to repeat his final year another two or three times? no not really. in a different version of the ppgw programme, it says he’s studying music production, so ewe could potentially move that so that he did that after finishing engineering, but that doesn’t feel right to me. so i’m not sure about him either.
so really, the main uncertainties are sandra, jonathan and trevor. robert and annie i’m fairly confident in, and max and dennis i believe are sorted. i’m a little unsure about chris, but i think there’s ways to explain him. any suggestions to justify sandra, jonathan and trevor would be greatly appreciated.
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bookclub4m · 9 months
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Episode 186 - Suspense Fiction
This episode we’re discussing the fiction genre of Suspense! We talk about crime, mysteries, horror, and even suspense!
You can download the podcast directly, find it on Libsyn, or get it through Apple Podcasts or your favourite podcast delivery system.
In this episode
Anna Ferri | Meghan Whyte | Matthew Murray | Jam Edwards
Things We Read (or tried to…)
Ascension by Nicholas Binge
The Best American Mystery and Suspense 2023 edited by Lisa Unger and Steph Cha
Malice by Keigo Higashino
Dead Woman Walking by Sharon J. Bolton
Alice in Borderland by Haro Aso (Wikipedia)
Night Fever by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips
Reckless by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips
A Solitude of Wolverines by Alice Henderson
Read But Not Mentioned
Find Me by Anne Fraser
Ghost Eaters by Clay McLeod Chapman
The Midnight Line: Jack Reacher #22 by Lee Child
The Phantom Scientist by Robin Cousin, translated by Edward Gauvin
Wyrd, vol. 1 by Curt Pires and Antonio Fuso
Colorless, vol 1 by Kent
Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir
Kiss the Girls and Make Them Cry by Mary Higgins Clark
Other Media We Mentioned
Scalped by Jason Aaron, R.M. Guera, and others 
Case Histories by Kate Atkinson
At the Mountains of Madness by H. P. Lovecraft (Wikipedia)
Welcome to the Goddamn Ice Cube by Blair Braverman
Small Game by Blair Braverman
Links, Articles, and Things
Hark! Podcast
Category:Fiction about death games (Wikipedia)
What Matthew described as “escape room fiction”
Final girl (Wikipedia)
20 Suspense Novels by BIPOC Authors
Every month Book Club for Masochists: A Readers’ Advisory Podcasts chooses a genre at random and we read and discuss books from that genre. We also put together book lists for each episode/genre that feature works by BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, & People of Colour) authors. All of the lists can be found here.
The Decagon House Murders by Yukito Ayatsuji
Dirty Laundry by Disha Bose
A Person of Interest by Susan Choi
When No One is Watching by Alyssa Cole
Sleeping with Strangers by Eric Jerome Dickey
The Between by Tananarive Due
Shutter by Ramona Emerson
The Other Black Girl by Zakiya Dalila Harris
We Lie Here by Rachel Howzell Hall
The Mantis by Kotaro Isaka
My Sweet Girl by Amanda Jayatissa
The Leftover Woman by Jean Kwok
Are You Sara? by S.C. Lalli
Cherish Farrah by Bethany C. Morrow
The Man in My Basement by Walter Mosley
Ride or Die by Gail-Agnes Musikavanhu
Fish Swimming in Dappled Sunlight by Riku Onda, translated by Alison Watts
Sinister Graves by Marcie R. Rendon
There Should Have Been Eight by Nalini Singh
In the Dark We Forget by Sandra S.G. Wong
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Michael Bolotin (born February 26, 1953), known professionally as Michael Bolton, is an American singer and songwriter. Bolton performed in the hard rock and heavy metal music genres from the mid-1970s to the mid-1980s, both on his early solo albums and those he recorded as the frontman of the band Blackjack. He became better known for his series of pop rock ballads, recorded after a stylistic change in the late 1980s.
Bolton has sold more than 75 million records, and recorded eight top 10 albums and two number-one singles on the Billboard charts, as well as winning six American Music Awards and two Grammy Awards. He has performed with artists including Lucia Aliberti, Patti LaBelle, José Carreras, Tony Cetinski, Ray Charles, Celine Dion, Plácido Domingo, Renée Fleming, Wynonna Judd, B.B. King, The Lonely Island, Luciano Pavarotti, Percy Sledge, and Zucchero.
Early Life
Bolton was born in New Haven, Connecticut. His father, George Bolotin, was a local official in the Democratic Party, and his mother, Helen, was a homemaker. He has a brother, Orrin, and a sister, Sandra. By age 7, Bolton was able to play the saxophone. He began writing songs at age 9. At age 14, he formed a group, the Nomads, that were signed to a singles contract by Epic Records when Bolton was 16. With his parents' permission, he dropped out of high school and left home at age 15 to travel cross country along U.S. Route 66 and pursue music full-time. He took odd jobs, including as Paula Abdul’s babysitter.
Hard rock and songwriting
Bolton began recording in 1975 at The Church Studio in Tulsa, Oklahoma. This first album was self-titled using his original family name of Bolotin. Early in his musical career, he focused on hard rock, with his band Blackjack once opening for heavy metal artist Ozzy Osbourne on tour. It was rumored that in 1983 Bolton auditioned for, but was denied, the lead vocalist position with Osbourne's former band, Black Sabbath. Bolton later stated this was untrue, saying "That rumor about me auditioning for Black Sabbath was only a rumor, I don't know how on earth it started." In 2015, Bolton's 1980 song "Maybe It's the Power of Love" with Blackjack was sampled by rapper Kanye West for his song "Never Let Me Down".
After anglicizing his family name to Bolton, he gained his first major hit as a songwriter, co-writing "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You" for Laura Branigan, previously best known for singing the pop hit "Gloria". Narrowly missing the Top 10 on the US pop chart, Branigan took the song to number one on the Adult Contemporary chart for three weeks in 1983. The two sought to work with each other again, and their next collaboration was when Bolton co-wrote "I Found Someone" for Branigan in 1985. Her version was only a minor hit, but two years later, Cher resurrected the song, and with it her own singing career. Bolton co-wrote several other songs for both singers. Bolton recorded his own rendition of "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You" in 1988, which reached number one on the Hot 100.
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Bolton achieved his greatest success as a pop singer in the late 1980s and early 1990s. He performed songs written by or co-written with major hit songwriters of the era including Diane Warren and Desmond Child (as well as "Steel Bars" penned by Bolton and Bob Dylan). but also had several hits that were remakes of 1960s soul classics. One of his first major hits was his 1987 interpretation of the Otis Redding classic "(Sittin' On) the Dock of the Bay". Redding's widow, Zelma Redding, said she was so moved by Bolton's performance "that it brought tears to my eyes. It reminded me so much of my husband that I know if he heard it, he would feel the same." Always interested in soul music and Motown classics, in 1989, Bolton released a cover version of "Georgia on My Mind" by Ray Charles, with which he had another hit. In 1991, Bolton released the album Time, Love & Tenderness which featured his Grammy Award-winning cover version of "When a Man Loves a Woman", first recorded by Percy Sledge.
From 1987 to 1995, Bolton had four top ten albums and seven top ten songs in the U.S. He had even greater success on the adult contemporary chart with where her had a string of 14 consecutive top ten hits including eight number ones.
Bolton also had 12 top ten songs in Canada, but was less successful outside of North America with four top ten singles in the UK and a few others in various other European countries.
Bolton's work during the period has been criticized for being derivative, and in 1992, the Isley Brothers filed a lawsuit against Bolton, claiming his 1991 hit song "Love Is a Wonderful Thing" plagiarized their 1966 song of the same name. A fifteen-year legal battle resulted in a $4.2 million payment to the Isleys from Bolton, his co-writer and their publisher. A previous similar lawsuit regarding "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You" had been settled in Bolton's favor.
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Bolton's last Top 40 single in the US was the 1997 hit "Go the Distance" (from the Disney animated movie Hercules), which peaked at No. 1 on the US adult contemporary chart. He hired conductor Larry Baird, the orchestral musical director, conductor, and arranger for The Moody Blues, Three Dog Night, and Al Jarreau, for his 2001 tour.
Later Work
Bolton's popularity declined in the late 1990s, but he continued to have adult contemporary hits through the mid-2000s. He released albums every year or two through the mid-2010s. His album Only a Woman Like You was released in 2001 with the title song co-written by Shania Twain. In 2006, Bolton and Nicollette Sheridan, his fiancée at the time, sang a duet, "The Second Time Around", for the album Bolton Swings Sinatra. For Over the Rainbow, an album which was recorded in five days, Bolton recorded the song "New York, New York", which was also on his Bolton Swings Sinatra album. This was for an episode of the TV series, Challenge Anneka. The proceeds from the album went to children's hospices across the UK. Bolton released his album One World One Love in the UK on September 21, 2009. The first single, "Just One Love", was released one week earlier. In June 2011, Bolton collaborated with Indian musician A. R. Rahman for a song recorded for Gems – The Duets Collection. In 2013, Bolton released the album Ain't No Mountain High Enough: A Tribute to Hitsville U.S.A., which featured duets with Kelly Rowland, Melanie Fiona and Orianthi.
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In addition to his recordings, Bolton has continued to perform publicly. In March 2007, he toured South Africa for the first time, where he was the headline act at Jacaranda 94.2 FM's two-day concert. He performed a duet entitled "Il Mio Amico" with the Italian singer Anna Tatangelo at the Sanremo Music Festival 2008. The song was originally sung by Tatangelo alone, but the duet version contained English lyrics as well.
In May 2011, Bolton was featured as a guest vocalist in The Lonely Island's song "Jack Sparrow" on their Turtleneck & Chain album. His performance with the comedic hip-hop trio focused on his (intentionally) off-topic chorus and miscommunication with the group, and the video featured him dressed in costumes as Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean, Forrest Gump, Erin Brockovich, and Tony Montana from Scarface.
Bolton has also performed his music in other media. In August 2006, Bolton he one of Lucy Lawless's duet partners on the Fox Broadcasting Company network's program Celebrity Duets, which Simon Cowell's Syco Productions Company produced for the network. In late 2013 and early 2014, he appeared in Honda commercials in which he sings. In 2015, he sang on an episode of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver concerning the IRS. In the same year, he performed in a Pizza Hut commercial singing Jingle Bells while a family opens up their pizza order. Bolton contributed "Upbeat Inspirational Song About Life" and its reprise to Teen Titans Go! To the Movies, which was released on July 27, 2018. He also voices the Tiger that sings the song in the film. In 2021, he guest-starred in season six of The Masked Singer where he sang Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" with Faith Evans as "Skunk". In 2023, he competed in season nine as "Wolf". After he was eliminated on "DC Superheroes Night", he took the time to promote his upcoming album and did an encore by performing "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You". Bolton competed in the American Song Contest, representing Connecticut and performing the song Beautiful World, with his first performance in the first week, on March 21, 2022. He made it to the finals, finishing in seventh place.
Film Career
Bolton has made several cameo appearances in feature films and television, usually appearing as himself, such as in Meet Wally Sparks (1997), Two and a Half Men (2012),and The Nanny (1998).
In September 2010, Bolton was a contestant on the 11th season of Dancing with the Stars. He and his dance partner Chelsie Hightower were the second couple to be eliminated, on September 28, 2010.
On May 15, 2018, American Dream: Detroit, a documentary produced by Bolton, premiered in the Redford Theatre. Bolton loves Detroit and wanted to highlight its economic comeback. The documentary features interviews with several business moguls, singers and other Detroit natives, including Christopher Ilitch, Jerry Bruckheimer, Francis Ford Coppola, Aretha Franklin, Smokey Robinson, and Alice Cooper.
Although he has been rumored to have appeared as an extra in Dune (1984) as a "spice-eyed" drummer, Bolton has stated in interviews that it is not him.
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Personal life
Bolton describes himself as a "rebel Jew". He was raised in a liberal family, describing his childhood home as decorated with both a Hanukkah menorah and a Christmas tree. His grandparents kept a kashrut household. He left Hebrew school at age 12 when his rabbi forbade him from returning unless he stopped joking around. Nevertheless, Bolton became bar mitzvah at age 13 and maintains some beliefs in Judaism.
Bolton has been a vegetarian since 1970.
In January 2013, Bolton published an autobiography, The Soul of It All: My Music, My Life.
Bolton lives in Westport, Connecticut.
Relationships and Family
Bolton was married to Maureen McGuire from 1975 to 1990. They have three daughters together, each born two years apart: Isa, Holly, and Taryn. He became a grandfather for the first time in October 2010, through his daughter Taryn. As of February 2019, he has six grandchildren.
Bolton was introduced to actress Nicollette Sheridan in 1992 by adult contemporary/jazz saxophonist Kenny G. Bolton and Sheridan dated until breaking up in 1995. They reunited again in 2005, becoming engaged in March 2006, However, it was confirmed in August 2008 that they had broken off their engagement.
Since 1975, Bolton has released 24 studio albums and 35 singles. Nine of his singles have peaked at No. 1 on either the Billboard Hot 100 or the Hot Adult Contemporary Tracks charts in the US.
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sunnyanddumb98 · 1 year
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Four people to my left. There's who I believe is a film screenwriter I like. In the middle seat in the middle row. She has an isosceles triangle nose, her face looks like it's from a Tim Burton movie, her hair is greasy and separated into strands by the oil, that unsaturated brown hair, like the dark hair of a rat.
I talk to my mother about it and we scheme a plan. I'll wait for her to go to the bathroom, so I can walk behind her and wait as if it were a coincidence. Of course. When she comes out, I'll ask her, 'Wait, aren't you an independent film screenwriter?' Her face will light up, she'll be excited, and proud to be recognized.
But what if she never goes to the bathroom? I'm sitting right next to a couple, what if I need to pee in the middle of my deep writing? When I was six years old, I peed in class, the teacher's assistant, Aunt Sandra, took me to her house from my school uphill. just one block away. She had a box of underwear in plastic bags and a box of tights at her house. She made it seem like it was a regular event for her. I cleaned and changed, but she helped me with the tights.
I also I peed at a birthday sleepover once. Everyone from my class was there, I knew not to have liquids after six. My doctor told me I had an immature sphincter. I woke up wet on the couch, Consuelo, Cony, she talked really loud, she asked me, probably to tease me. I was about to admit my guilt when Aunt Andrea intervened, Nini's mom, and told everyone that she had spilled a glass of water and apologized to me. Maybe wetting myself is the right career move for my writing. If she sees me so embarrassed, she'll feel sorry for me, take the initiative. If she pities me enough, she might share her story, and we could become friends. Maybe she'll take me under her wing.
But I have to do it at the right moment, early enough to talk about myself, my editorial line, and my vision. But late enough for the other passengers to endure the smell for the shortest amount of time. If this group of complete strangers has to pay for my career, politeness dictates that the situation should last as little time as possible. After all, I don't want an ungrateful and self-centered reputation. Those kinds of reputations are reserved for middle-aged men with alcohol problems, the Hemingways, the Kings. We, women writers, don't have that luxury. We can be bohemian and promiscuous, but never ungrateful.
The more I look at her, the more this whole situation makes sense, as if we're connected. My writer and I and the pee, like we're part of a bigger plan. I can feel it, quoting Troy Bolton, 'the start of something new.' I know she can feel it too. She's asleep, but I know we are kindred spirits. It's like we're in the womb, filled with warm yellow liquid gestating something. A new life. Stories of the future. She hasn't looked at me all this time, she must be so confused feeling all these emotions and having no idea what's going to happen.
We're suspended in this creative fluid above all the other passengers, connected with the stars, streaming from the glass of my window to us. I feel a hand on my shoulder, and the lights dazzle, in the morning or noon. I startle, thank the flight attendant, and apologize for being the last one to exit. And I pray that the love of my life isn't a telepath on this same flight.
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arcanomayor6 · 1 year
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Cuatro personas a mi izquierda. Esta quien creo que es una guionista de cine que me gusta. En el asiento del medio en la fila del medio. Tiene una nariz de triangulo isósceles, su cara parece sacada de una película de tim burton, su pelo está sucio y separado en mechones por la grasa, es ese cabello café sin saturación, como el pelo oscuro de una rata.
Hablo con mi madre al respecto y amamos un plan. Esperaré a que vaya al baño, así podré caminar detrás de ella y esperar, como si fuera una casualidad. Por supuesto. Cuando salga, le preguntaré, "espera, ¿no eres una guionista de cine independiente?" Su rostro se iluminará, estara emocionada, orgullosa de ser reconocida.
Pero, ¿qué sucede si nunca va al baño? Estoy sentado justo al lado de una pareja, ¿qué pasa si en medio de mi profunda escritura me hago pis? Cuando tenía seis años, me hice pis en clase, la auxiliar del profesor, la tía Sandra, me llevó a su casa desde mi colegio cuesta arriba. una cuadra Tenía una caja de calzones en bolsas de plástico y una caja de pantis en su casa. Hizo que pareciera que era un evento habitual para ella. Me limpié y cambié, pero ella me ayudó con las pantimedias.
Otra vez me hice pis en una pijamada de cumpleaños. Todas en mi clase estaban allí, sabía que no debía tomar líquidos después de las seis. Mi doctor me dijo que tenía un esfínter inmaduro. Desperté en el sillón mojada, Consuelo, la Cony, ella hablaba muy fuerte, me preguntó, probablemente para burlarse de mí. Estaba a punto de asumir mi culpa cuando tía Andrea intervino, la mamá de Nini, y les dijo a todos que había derramado un vaso de agua y se disculpó conmigo. Tal vez orinarme sea la decisión correcta para mi carrera de escritura. Si me ve tan avergonzada, sentirá lástima por mí, tomará la iniciativa. Si me tiene suficiente lástima, podría contarle mi historia y podríamos ser amigas. Tal vez me protegerá.
Pero debo hacerlo en el momento adecuado, lo suficientemente temprano para hablarle sobre mí, mi línea editorial y mi visión. Pero lo suficientemente tarde como para que los demás pasajeros soporten la menor cantidad de tiempo con el olor. Si este grupo de completos desconocidos tiene que pagar por mi carrera, lo educado es hacer que la situación dure el menor tiempo posible. Después de todo, no quiero una reputación ingrata y egocéntrica. Ese tipo de reputaciones están reservadas para hombres de mediana edad con problemas de alcohol, los Hemingway, los Kings. Nosotras, las escritoras mujeres, no tenemos ese lujo. Podemos ser bohemias y putas, pero nunca ingratas.
Mientras más la miro, más sentido tiene toda esta situación, como si estuviéramos conectadas. Mi escritora y yo y el pis, como si fuéramos parte de un plan más grande. Puedo sentirlo, citando a Troy Bolton, "el comienzo de algo nuevo". Sé que ella también puede sentirlo. Está dormida, pero sé que somos espíritus afines. Es como si estuviéramos en el útero, lleno de líquido amarillo cálido gestando algo. Una nueva vida. Las historias del futuro. No me ha mirado en todo este tiempo, debe estar tan confundida sintiendo todos estos sentimientos y sin tener idea de lo que va a pasar.
Estamos suspendidas en este líquido de creación por encima de todos los demás pasajeros, unidos con las estrellas, que cruzan desde el vidrio de mi ventana hacia nosotras. Siento una mano en mi hombro y las luces deslumbran, en la mañana o el mediodía. Me sobresalto, agradezco al asistente de vuelo y me disculpo por ser la última en salir. Y rezo para que el amor de mi vida no sea un telepáta en este mismo vuelo.
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kateofthecanals · 7 years
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Show-Arya: “Oh MAN I was SO MAD when I heard someone else got to kill Joffrey!!”
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Sandra Bolton: “I KNOW, me too, I WISH it was me who had killed him lololol!”
Sansa Stark:
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sayruq · 6 years
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i don't mind that people dislike sansa. i dislike many characters myself. the problem is that they don't just dislike sansa and be done with it. they invent reasons for their dislike by exaggerating events or making shit up. they delight in the awful things that happened to her. that's where my defensiveness comes from, not from my insecurities (same as other sansa fans).
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ferperss · 6 years
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Who wore it better?
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wally-b-feed · 4 years
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bolton wifi sandra
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blacksmithgendry · 7 years
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Sandra: "the lone wolf dies...but the pack survives"
me: tHe LoNe WoLf DiEs BuT tHe PaCk SuRvIvEs
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reallyhardy · 3 years
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went through the goes-wrong-verse playbills/programmes - that is, ‘the play that goes wrong’ and ‘peter pan goes wrong’ (thank you @cornleypolytechnicgoeswrong​ !) trying to piece together each society member’s career within the society PLUS if possible whatever it was they were doing at the polytechnic (university) course-wise, along with whatever other character snippets they give. this is mostly to inform me when writing but i thought it’d be useful for other mischief/goes wrong fans!
chris bean:
as of TPTGW is the ‘newly elected’ head of the drama society, and is known at the university for his charitable & philanhropic work. he has six acting credits within the polytechnic to his name.
i was going to presume his choice of course at the uni was acting or directing, but his PPGW bio states that his ‘dacting’ (directing and acting) is all self-taught, so who knows. maybe he’s just in the society because of his aforementioned charitable work.
robert grove:
has starred in 40 productions with the society since 2002 (when he began work at cornley polytechnic as a caretaker - i’m taking this to mean he was never actually a student there.) anyway wow explains why they call him a “veteran actor” lol.
he offers acting lessons (reacting, gesturing, emotioning and acting) and can be contacted via twitter @robertgoodactor. i’ve looked this twitter account up and it does exist it’s just not been used since 2017 - that said there are some in-character photos of henry lewis as robert and nancy zamit as annie on there and plenty of tweets.
he runs an extremely dubiously safe cornley youth theatre program and can be contacted at his email [email protected] (membership fees are non-refundable.)
trevor watson:
in TPTGW is arbitrarily from ‘the north east’ (rob falconer’s portrayal, whereas chris leask’s portrayal is firmly and specifically scouse.)
he has a twitter account (rob falconer’s portrayal) @trevtechie, with i think probably the most tweets of the cornley twitters. stopped being updated in 2017.
his participation in haversham was to complete an electronics module - as the light and sound technician i’d assume his course was in this kinda field.
he states that after haversham he wants to never work with the cornley drama society again, but as of PPGW he’s “following in his parents footsteps” and has pivoted to possibly actually studying stage management. (his PPGW bio states that he’s in his final year at the uni for the 3rd time running. so it could mean his staying on with cornley is like partially due to failing his course?)
dennis tyde:
in his TPTGW bio it states that he joined the drama society after failing to get in to any other societies.
he didn’t live on university campus and commuted in from his parents’ house. he mostly just wanted to make friends - he’s interested in snooker and wants to meet like-minded people.
in his PPGW bio he still wants to make friends and says you can reach him via twitter @dennistyde. i checked this account too and again it does exist but hasn’t been used since 2013, and there are only 3 tweets so its much more bare-bones than the others. i like his one tweet about drinking a mug of bovril to calm his nerves before a show.
as of 2021 in promotional vids we learn that dennis and robert now live together.
max bennett:
in TPTGW bio it says he was a first year studying human geography and crime which i was surprised about but sure okay. it also says here that he happily donated “a large portion of his recent inheritance” to the society to help fund it.
at the bottom of TPTGW’s cast page it states that the west end performance of the play is “made possible by a generous legacy from claude bennett” who’s presumably max’s grandfather? or just father? idk
his TPTGW bio also says his favourite movie is the legend of bagger vance which i’ve never seen but is apparently a will smith golf movie.
his hobbies as listed in his PPGW bio are chess, cooking & hanging out with friends and fam. he also dedicates his performance in PPGW to his grandma claire, which is sweet.
annie twilloil:
as of TPTGW she’s designed, built, painted, costumed & stage managed every cornley show for the past 3 years. in the PPGW bio, it states she’s studying cognitive behavioural therapy and pottery, and has taken up life drawing at the student’s union (as the model.)
after haversham, she apparently had an internship lined up at the bolton octagon.
she has WILD backstory in her PPGW bio that says she dedicated her performance to her estranged husband julian who she hoped was in the audiance and two children frangipani and ylang-ylang. not sure if the kids are with her or with the husband but either way, wild. nuts. pretty funny but also pretty tragic.
she’s also got an ad out looking for a new bloke (i suppose if her husband isn’t in the audience) apparently she’s been left by boyfriends previously for an air hostess, a stripper, and a coal miner.
she also enjoys knitting and playing the banjolin (an instrument she made herself.) her email address is [email protected].
she has a twitter account that again hasnt been used since 2017 (@annietwiloil). a couple tweets chronicle dave hearn’s shoulder dislocation but as max so i guess its canon that max also dislocated his shoulder, but he did it while trying to open a twix? lmao
sandra wilkinson:
in her TPTGW bio it states that haversham manor is her 11th production with the company. idk how frequently they put on shows.
she won some kind of local kids beauty pageant in 1998 and did some modelling for a local restaurant (the sunam balti house, which apparently the cornley crew frequent? or have at least been to - seems they struggled with spicyness levels there, especially dennis.)
nothing on her course at the university, i might just take a stab and assume she was actually doing acting, since her bio is mostly about her being a performer.
she’s a big fan of jeremy irvine, they mention him in both of her bios.
jonathan harris:
is a total health & fitness guy. his course at the uni is in physical education and he’s also a model, though who’s to say what for. in PPGW this is expanded and he’s moved on to being a combo model/actor/photographer/lifecoach.
he loves his outdoor sports: mountain biking & kayaking are noted.
he had a bath salts advert out and he hoped it was gonna go national.
lucy grove:
her surname IS grove! i wasn’t sure, but that’s confirmed. not really much about her in there, because the bio is written by robert and he just used it to gas himelf up.
can’t tell if she’s a student at the university or just in the society through robert. genuinely there’s just not a lot to go on when it comes to lucy.
another note is that the murder at haversham manor and the version of peter pan that the cornley crew perform are both written by ‘susie h. k. brideswell’ who i guess either chris knows or chris is a big fan of?
other notes... they try so hard to make out like the characters aren't all the same age like implying that robert is genuinely older than most of them etc etc but ofc the cast featured in the TV broadcasts are all visibly the same age... ofc all this is just comedy innit so you can take it or leave it
also i realised that the american version of TPTGW calls it “the cornley university drama society” since i guess you guys dont have polytechnics over there. a polytechnic is like... a university that offers the arts (among the classics you know science law what have you) basically. by 2021 in promotional videos etc. shields in character as chris has dropped “polytechnic” altogether from the group’s name (but varies between calling it ‘the cornley drama society’ and ‘the cornley amateur dramatics society’) i assume to reflect how much time has passed since the group put on their first production under chris’ leadership - and that now they’re simply operating unattached to the university because they’ve become a real family. love love love, sillyness and love.
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One thing that has always baffled me about the fandom is how Sansa's mistakes are difficult to forgive than say the acts committed by other characters which are worse . It could be an unpopular opinion but I don't think it's rooted in misogyny even though a good chunk of it is . ASOIAF as a saga operates on POV structure and perception that we have as readers of a POV character is coloured by the said POV's interactions with other POV characters .
For example , in AGOT we have Sansa butting her head with her father and her younger sister both of whom are introduced positively . Then in ASOS we have her clash with Tyrion even though it isn't as active as the one she had with Ned and Ary@ . Obviously she clashes with Cersei who is another POV character but we don't get Cersei as POV till AFFC . Now there are 3 active POV characters with whom Sansa interacts and all of them are fan favourites and have underdog coding . So a zero sum analysis is framed while analysing Sansa wrt to them " Sansa the mean pretty girl to noble tomboy @rya" , " Sansa the vapid shallow daughter to noble Ned " or " Sansa the shallow ungrateful pretty maiden to kind ugly Tyrion " is how these dynamics are juxtaposed because Sansa as a character doesn't have underdog framing in comparison to those characters who have tropey underdog framing . It's interesting about how one day I was going through some old reddit forums about the topic of Sansa Tyrion marriage and I was surprised to see how the tone against those topics have shifted throughout the years . Earlier it was about sad Tyrion but now most of them are geared towards about how Sansa instead of being the shallow princess who has the upper hand is actually the one with the lack of agency . It's also interesting how in the recent years Ned's parenting failures are acknowledged in the fandom and that how Blackwater was an attempted assault rather than sexual tension culminating into wet dream . It's really a refreshing transition and thanks to the Jonsa fandom for that . That is why you have accusations about how Jonsas aren't true Sansa fans and that they are trying to make everything about Sansa and how we don't understand her character .
Regarding POV interactions , another interesting example is J@ime , a character that is easily forgived by readers once he gets his POV and I think that is one of GRRM's intentions . Yes, he clashes with the Starks but the thing is when he is introduced to us a POV, it is in ASOS at his lowest and halfway the book we get a flashback to his character about the things he had to commit while he was young and they are painted with tragedy . Later as I said about POV interactions , the ones he clashes with is his villain coded twin and that is how the POV trap is birthed in J@ime's arc and the so called redemption because this clash with a villain is to make the reader think that he was always a good person who was corrupted by his twin and is now taking strides to better himself . I have always wondered why Grrm didn't introduce him as a POV in the first book and the things that he does - throwing a kid and supporting the corrupt Lannister regime ( cuckolding the king ) would be pained in a negative light by the narrative and the funny thing is even after being assigned a POV , he is doing the same things in Feast Dance only this time it is under the garb of Goldenhand the Just instead of the damned Kingslayer .
Coming back to Sansa one of the accusations in her show version was that her S6-8 self was inconsistently written and that was because she clashed with characters . It's really interesting how the vitriol that was geared towards her in the later season is quite similar to that of the first season and the common factor in both of them is that she clashed with fan favourites . In S1 it was Ned and @rya and in later season it was Jon, @rya, D@ny . That's why I always lol when ppl say how they love book Sansa but hate Sandra Bolton when AGOT Sansa is perhaps one of the most hated characters in the entire fandom . If the later books have her in conflict with fan favs then the same worshippers will throw her under the bus .
I think whatever we perceive of a character is mostly not derived from canon characterisation but from POV placements ( when they are introduced as POVs and how they clash with other POVs ). I was reading an essay about a critic on GRRM's incoherent writing on Sansa and one of the accusations was that her transition from AGOT to ACOK was a bit incoherent as if there was some off page character development and growth . The thing was Sansa's act of kindness of saving Dontos in ACOK seemed a bit ooc to the essayist considering how she was penned by the author in AGOT . The problem is her first act of kindness in the books was not saving Dontos but consoling S@ndor in AGOT and as I said how POV placements color the view of the characters - in this respect it was the essayist's just because she clashes with underdog fanfav @ry@ , most people seem to think that her entire AGOT arc is being mean to her sister and betraying her family when it is not so . Thats why one of the judgements about Sansa's is that she garners sympathy for what she had to go through but that doesn't mean she is a kind person because her rude awakening made her think .
Regarding POV placements , it's interesting how D@ny hasn't had a conflicting POV character interact with her in 5 books ( Barristan doesn't count ) . We haven't had seen her clash heads with a POV character and maybe that will change as she journeys towards Westeros starting with Tyrion in TWOW .
Anon, I was gonna hit like and reblog and then remembered this was an ask so all I can do is hit post. You explained this all so well, nothing else needs to be said!
Actually, one thing I to add to the mix is that I think Martin is pulling from some classic lit that features naive/innocent heroines, and he may have not realized how modern fans who don't have the same literary background would respond to such a character, might despise those things that make her vulnerable. Naive is not stupid and it isn't a ruse to hide evil, it's innocence. I assume the fandom simply can't accept that because this kind of character doesn't feel familiar to them.
The combo of that and the POV issue makes me want to be sympathetic to them, but Sansa fans have been churning out content for years explaining her, so now those excuses don't quite cover the fandom's insistence on their negative interpretation. People lose all perspective when it comes to Sansa (in my experience), so I'm really surprised that you found Sansa positive content on Reddit which was the worst when I stopped going in 2018. I’m so happy that even there she has defenders!
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Like, kateofwhatever made her own version of the Blackwater scene because the show version wasn't romantic enough. She jumps on other people's Sansa gif sets to talk about Sandra bolton and how much s*ndor would hate Sansa now when she's grown and no longer innocently takes all the abuse meted out to her but fights back. She's a vile, vile person. I used to be interested in the san/san dynamic but people like her and their very thinly veiled hatred of Sansa cured me of that.
That explains a lot. I’ve noticed most of them don’t seem to care for Sansa both in the books and show. I’ve come across a couple that genuinely love Sansa and I’m cool with them and will reblog their Sansa content despite my feelings towards who they ship her with but it’s the overall fandoms treatment of Sansa that gets me.
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Even if grrm never finishes asoiaf, do you think that he will publish his ending? Or, like, if he dies before ados (I’m hoping we’ll see twow maybe in a few years) maybe his drafts or ideas will be published? He’s not the only one who knows the ending, so perhaps his editors/assistants will have mercy on us and tell us how the story ends? And then we will find solace in fanfics, lol
Hi there!
my biggest fear is that GRRM will pull a Kafka and write in his will that everything should be burned.
If he does that I will never forgive him.
Anyway, for the tenured professors of ASOIAF only GRRM’s ending will count. If he dies before he has finished the books and his wife or his editors or whoever says that the ending of ASOIAF is like the show (or worse that there will be Jonsa), they’ll all be ridiculed as dirty delulu Jonsas or Sandra Bolton stans. I can already picture them doing that, now, that you gave me the idea!
We’ll be forever in a limbo and the discussion will never stop.
Thanks!
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