#shiloh fields

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one beach and so many memories 🤧

[buried-in-autumn-leaves]

Thinking ab if Baxter had been put in XOXO Droplets like he was going to be........ Stupidly pretentious musician. Probably gets along with Everett in a 'we both think we're cool and alternative' way. Similar to Shiloh in terms of popularity due to excessive people pleasing. Passes his classes with seemingly no effort (pisses off Nate). So many possibilities idk.....

[one12345two]

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Us: WHY IS SHILOH LIKE THAT?! WHAT ARE HIS MOTIVATIONS?! WHAT WOULD HE DO IN (X) SCENARIO?!

Gb Lady:

You get it

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Do you know what influences the different versions of Shiloh that appear in the wedding DLC? Do the choices from Step 1 influence it or is it only Step 3?

It's actually completely random. When deciding on a Shiloh, the game rolls for a number anywhere from 1 to 5, as there are five different Shiloh you can get (technically four but I'll explain more below).

If that answer doesn't satisfy you, there is a way to "guarantee" a Shiloh if you don't mind going back on saves, but you need to set some things up first.

Number one, be "alright" with Shiloh by the end of Serendipity, which you can do after Liz makes him apologize by either accepting his apology (literally "I'll accept your apology.") or feeling relieved (You gave him a faint smile, feeling sort of relieved.).

If you choose neither, then you'll have to be "unsure" instead ("Were you pretending to have a good time with us today?" or You couldn't give him a straight answer.) and then choose to stick around when Liz asks (followed by either "I still like Shiloh." or "I'm kind of interested to see what'll happen next. I'll stick around." or "Well, it's not as if I was that surprised."). The last option only appears if the MC knew that Shiloh wasn't an honest person back in Step 1 and said "I knew it. I knew you weren't being honest back then." after Shiloh admits to what he did when you were kids).

Next, during the ending of Step 3, call Shiloh (after you're done at the restaurant with yours and Cove's family). The actual details of the call don't matter as long as you called him. You'll need to do this regardless to be able to invite him to the wedding.

Once Step 3 ends, choose Cove's Step 4 and keep going until you have the option to say "Actually, you wanna know who else being here would make this extra perfect?"

It's once you choose to bring up "Shiloh" that the game rolls the random number, so you can save right before that happens.

After you pick it, if Liz says "I'm really not so sure about that. This is a big crowd and Shiloh is… an acquired taste." then you got Shiloh 1.

If Liz says "You know, it might actually be fun to have him join in with the full group. Too bad it's not gonna happen." then you got Shiloh 2.

If Liz says "Honestly, I'm not so sure about that, [MC's name]. You know Shiloh's an acquired taste and this is a big crowd… and it's not like he'd ever come anyways." then you got Shiloh 3.

If Liz says "Ah, [MC's name]? I know me and him aren't really talking right now, but I did learn that he doesn't go by Shiloh anymore. He only responds to his middle name, Leon." then you got Shiloh 4.

If Liz says "This is a big crowd, [MC's name]. I'm not so sure that he'd like that and… you know, Shiloh is a bit of an acquired taste." then you got Shiloh 5.

If you don't do these steps, then your Shiloh will be randomized the moment you start the Wedding DLC and there won't be any way to check until you actually get to see him.

Shiloh 1-4 have a set personality. Shiloh 1 has the "Shiloh" personality, Shiloh 2 has the "Mr. Fields" personality, Shiloh 3 has the "Shy" personality, and Shiloh 4 has the "Leon" personality. Shiloh 5 can have any of the others' personalities, as the game does another dice roll from 1-4 with him specifically and picks one of the four personalities I listed. Each personality also has a set appearance, so if you got Shiloh 5 then this is how you know which personality you got from him.

From left to right, the personalities go Shiloh, Mr. Fields, Shy, and Leon:

The rough differences between the four personalities go like so:

The "Shiloh" personality, predictably, is the closest to the original Shiloh. He is described in Step 4 as being part of "some kind of entrepreneurial venture" and adopted a dog named Roger. During the Wedding DLC, he will be settled in and talking comfortably with other guests when you approach with Cove and will greet you with the same enthusiasm that he uses with Liz.

The "Mr. Fields" personality is described in Step 4 as "studying to be an accountant" and has become more honest about his feelings, thus less difficult to figure out than he was as a kid. During the Wedding DLC, he'll be talking with other guests but with some level of discomfort, though will greet you and Cove more affectionately.

The "Shy" personality is described in Step 4 as "pretty internet famous" and "extremely hard to reach." He's called "Shy" by his fans and he's even less transparent than he was during Serendipity. During the Wedding DLC, he won't be talking to other guests despite paying attention to their conversations, greeting you and Cove with some restraint (similar to how Shiloh preferred Liz over you in Step 1).

The "Leon" personality is called as such because Shiloh is going by his middle name now. Not much is said about him in Step 4 besides the fact that he's distancing himself from the past. Likewise, during the Wedding DLC, he'll be entirely distant from all the chatter amongst guests and not even look at you and Cove when you approach.

Shiloh 5, despite being able to have any personality, is notable because he's the only Shiloh who has a girlfriend. If that's what you want for him but you also want a particular personality for him, you'll have to wait until the Wedding DLC when you're making your rounds and talking to people, saving at the text "Cove skipped ahead, buoyed by the brief, but fun interaction, and you went right along with him." and then resetting if you don't get the Shiloh you want.

Shiloh 1 (not Shiloh 5 with the "Shiloh" personality) will also set Jeremy to having the girlfriend instead, though this can be true of any Shiloh if you didn't call Shiloh at the end of Step 3 (though this is only relevant if you invite Jeremy to the wedding since by not calling Shiloh, you won't be able to invite Shiloh). Basically, by not calling Shiloh, Jeremy will have a girlfriend.

"Shiloh" and "Mr. Fields" will also have a blast with Liz at the end of the party rather than simply not minding attention from her, and they're the only ones who will participate in the bouquet toss (and will push Jeremy into participating if you invited Jeremy), whereas Baxter will single out (or group with Jeremy) a "Shy" or "Leon" Shiloh as "having a bit of snark" when speaking to you and Cove about how lovely your weddings guests are otherwise.

Hope that helps! The basic thing to know is just that the Shiloh you get is technically random, but you can reroll by going back on saves if you really want to get a specific one.

[ofoceansandtombsanew]

being petty to shiloh because i can lmao but yeah baby you tell him we're together <3

[otomes-and-tears]

thoughts on shiloh and jb,,,, theyre so fun to think abt as a dynamic no matter how u choose to slice it

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS, ANON!! I want to smooch your forehead. I'm so happy rn.

Okay so-- I like to think that Shiloh initially only agreed to date JB out of self-interest, but eventually developed genuine feelings for her that he's in denial about.

We all know that he chooses to closely associate with people who will offer him something in return, and being with JB is DEFINITELY beneficial for him in the beginning:

First, by going out with her he's setting himself apart from the other jerks. He already acts differently from them, being nice, cheerful and helpful, and dating someone who others would consider desirable would do good for his social standing (and we know that shiloh has a bit of a reputation for being a manwhore, so actually settling down with someone for once would make him appear better) and it would solidify the idea that he's in the jerksquad by mistake and that he's "totally normal you guys" for people who still didn't catch on to him being a snake.

We also know that part of the reason is literally just that JB is the one thing that all the jerks have in common. They're all attracted to her in some capacity, and Shiloh can rub it in their faces in his own way that he "won" by being with her.

I think that JB being physically attractive and fitting his type are just minor points for him. If it was down to just physical attraction he wouldn't have bothered with a romantic relationship. He did, canonically, have a bunch of flings, so we know that for him accept a serious, exclusive relationship meant that there was a lot of incentive for him to do so.

So by all accounts, this is literally the perfect scenario for him: He's with someone attractive and fun, he pisses Pran off, people will see him in a better light and, the best part of all, JB is aware that he has ulterior motives and doesn't care about what they are, just as long he's praising her and being amusing.

There doesn't need to be any actual feelings involved. It's a mutually beneficial relationship that hinges on both parts fulfilling their pre-assigned roles. It's straightforward and uncomplicated, even if their dynamic is kind of fucked up if you think too hard about it.

But... And maybe this is just the hopeless romantic in me, but I do think that Shiloh eventually starts developing actual feelings for JB, and it would be fucking terrible for him.

There's this one post where GB lady talks about Shiloh's loneliness, and I think about it way too much. Even if you choose to see him as someone who just discards and replaces people in his life as soon as they're not of use anymore, he still feels isolated and lonely, because of course he does! Shiloh spent his entire life not letting people in and just following whoever established themselves as a leader, he even admits to it himself in Our life.

Shiloh doesn't have any actual, meaningful relationships because he can't have them and still maintain that same pattern of behaviour that he's used to, and letting go of these old habits would be incredibly difficult for someone whose entire childhood socialization was built onto this foundation.

Like-- I know that is a clichê for people to trace back everything to someone's childhood, but I cannot stress enough how CRUCIAL childhood socialization is for human development. Of course, people can grow and change even if they had difficult childhoods, but you need a good foundation in order to build healthy habits, and while Shiloh did have loving parents who wanted to do good by him, the behaviours and thought patterns he picked up during his childhood are still things we can see he struggles with throughout his life.

Building long-lasting connections with people means that he needs to allow himself to be vulnerable and genuine, It means that Shiloh needs to let go of the safety of the "boss and sidekick" dynamic that he's used to, and that especially, he would need to let go of his habit of entering relationships with the expectation of leaving them eventually.

I don't think these are things he's incapable of doing, if you choose to believe that he was being genuine with Liz during their conversation in OLBA, but these are things that he has resistance to trying because they have outcomes that are difficult to predict, and Shiloh is as his most comfortable when he's able to read someone and be what they need him to be or manipulate them into giving to him what he wants. He thrives on predictability and control.

I believe that actually falling in love with JB would be something he'd be in denial about for a long time. I think it would be hard for him to rationalise having actual, genuine feelings for someone after he spent an entire life avoiding them, and it would be even harder for him to deal with the very real possibility of this relationship having an expiration date, or, even worse, him wanting to be with her past her usefulness.

And it's not like he has anyone to talk to about these things, or that JB would even believe him if he admitted to actually liking her. I do think that Shiloh is the kind of person who would try to bury these feelings inside as much as possible to try and regain some sense of normalcy and you'd never be able to tell, bc he's just acting like normal.

By the prom scene, I think he actually likes her. I think he purposefully takes advantage of the fact that she doesn't take anything he says seriously to say things he actually means. I think him opening up about his manipulation tactics goes beyond him just wanting to manipulate her further (though I do think that keeping her interested enough she doesn't want to break up is a good motivator for him to keep on manipulating her too) and is also Shiloh's way of testing her boundaries and just how much she's willing to put up with if he starts being honest with her.

I don't think he knows whether or not to break up with her by graduation. She's asking him, but he doesn't know what to answer. Being with her beyond high school and putting effort into staying with JB long-distance doesn't really benefit Shiloh like it did when they were both in high school, and staying with JB long-term would mean that at some point he'd have to look deep inside and ask himself if he's willing to change.

And yeah, he's lonely, and he loves JB, but is that worth giving up everything you know?

Buuut if you want my honest opinion, which I'm guessing you do because you read through this mountain of text, I like to think that him allowing Liz back into his life is a good sign. It, at the very least, means that he is willing to maintain one relationship and that he's willing to be at least somewhat honest with someone. That's already miles better from where he was when Xoxo Droplets started.

By the way-- if you agree or disagree with anything I said here I'd LOVE to hear people's takes on this topic! I love talking about them!

[sheynchankawaiiuwu]

I hate how Shiloh acts in the DLC(I've never played it but I read the wiki) but happy birthday to him ig

@gbpatchupdates happy birthday to Shiloh!

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You know how Cove's favorite colors of green, blue, and yellow match the colors of the dialogue choices? It just hit me on my latest playthrough that the Step 1 friend trio also matches those colors. Cove's hair, Shiloh's outfit, Lizzie's dress.

[oluever]

vampire shiloh fields??? i think yes

i love him sm grgrggrgr

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[j-nightingalesb1tch]

it's funny how each member of the xoxo droplets gang has an "enemy" but it just feels like they forced pran and shiloh to be enemies as it's only mentioned once or twice and just doesn't make as much sense as the rest of them.

also it makes me laugh how everett is basically the most hated one in the group and ends up being everyone's enemy despite jeremy being his TRUE enemy. i genuinely think he complains about shiloh just as much as he does jeremy.

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Oh nooooo I dropped a cute moment of Jeremy talking about JB that everyone should appreciate oh noooo

Uh-Oh I did it again this is so unfortunate omg

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I feel this more and more after every Shiloh post

Accurate 😔

[thatlittledandere]

Have an XOD Evening I'm so good at jokes