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I don't have time to get into this right now and I'm happy to expand on it later when I have a minute to sit down, but: Do not give your money to zines runs by antis.
Do not participate in zines run by antis.
Do not trust people who have never participated in your fandom until they show up trying to make money off of you.
ZINE DRAMA is not ~fandom drama~. Zines are independent small businesses. Any time money is exchanged, you risk sharing your legal name. Any time physical media is purchased to be mailed, you share your home address.
Do not trust antis with your personal information. It is not safe.
I really try not to engage in drama and bullshit on here because I think it's irresponsible and wastes everyones time, but when this type of money and personal safety is involved I think it's absolutely crucial to be aware of it. This is not drama, it's very basic safety.
Especially in this fucking fandom, with its history. There is a reason we have not had zines, and they would know that if they actually spent time here before trying to monetize your work. I say this due to their handling of it and also in case fandom folks around here don't have zine experience and don't know what red flags to look for, since we haven't had any. There is a mature and responsible way to navigate this new territory and this is absolutely not it.
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quiznakchronicle · 7 years
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A collection of discourse/vent asks
So over the last few weeks we’ve gotten a bunch of discourse/vent asks, mostly from people frustrated at the number of events in the fandom and/or how they’re being managed. We understand that people turn to us because we’re the ones in the thick of all these events, but please keep in mind that this isn’t a discourse blog. We’ll answer all the asks we have in one shot in this post (under a cut) because we don’t want people thinking we’re ignoring them or don’t care about what they’re saying, but after this we won’t be answering such asks publicly anymore. In the future we’d ask that if you have a grievance regarding events in this fandom please either talk to us in private about it (send an off-anon ask to this blog or DM Mod Pidge at @ace-pidge) or make a separate post about it on your blog. If you just want to anonymously vent/rant at someone may we suggest something like @vld-rage-confessions
Thanks for understanding <3
- Mods Pidge & Shiro
Anonymous said: 12 days ago regarding that anon complaining about event capacity, I think it might be helpful to also bring up a discussion about how certan events are run. Some events are run very smoothly by mods that are mature and act professional, while others are either run by well-intentioned newbies or people who don't have the skill to run the event they are. I have had to drop out of several bangs because the mods have refused to use email for sign-ups or check-ins, instead forcing all the work on participants1/2
2/2 They put all of the responsibility for both creating the piece, communicating with partners and performing check-ins on the participants and then people drop out due to poor communication and confusion. I have asked mods to please use email and send out confirmation / check-in emails and many have been rude and self-righteous about it, calling those that ask for better modding skills lazy or entitled. I am frustrated since I have always handed my work in on time, but have had to drop
3/2 from events due to absolute silence on the part of mods. It is not good practice to run your entire event out of tumblr / twitter and expect all participants to keep checking your blog / check in with you. It is teh responsibility of mods to send out emails and check in with participants, not the other way around. it is the responsibility of mods to make sure the communication is there, and the responsibility of participants to do the work and hand it in.
4/2(sorry) I don't wnat to make a c=major call-out post or shame particular people, but I feel like this is a trend that needs to stop. Certain events (big bangs, I've noticed) are being run like drag-and-drop set-and-forget events that mods don't need to put effort in to beyond putting up a tumblr. Running a big bang is a HUGE amount of effort and if you're not willing to put the effort in to run it properly, you run the risk of burning the entire community. We need to focus on a few well-run events. Sorry, finished. (no need to publish this ask)
I think this is a very good point and in fact I was partly thinking of this ask when I made my events etiquette post with my list of advice to organizers and participants. The importance of good and consistent communication during events simply cannot be understated, it’s what will make or break your event
Anonymous said: 12 days ago thank you so much for posting the thing about too many events. i'm thinking about not accepting zines if i get in because i don't think they'll sell and i don't want to work on something for nothing and i don't know how to get that across to these mods because they think selling a hundred is good but i get more kudos on my ao3 fics than that
Honestly the situation with zines has me particularly worried, because there is actual money involved. In previous fandoms I’ve only ever seen a few zines overall, never this many and all at once. It really does saturate the market. The last thing anyone wants is for people to put in all that work only for it to flop at the end because few people actually order it. It’s not any one person or zine’s fault, because all of them have neat concepts and themes. The problem is in having them all at once.
Anonymous said: 12 days ago I don't know how recently the problems with dropouts have started getting worse, but it could also have something to do with school starting back in a lot of places. If students didn't think about school starting or didn't expect to have more work this year than last year, they might be dropping stuff because of that. Oversaturation is definitely a problem we have, but things might even out a little bit in a few weeks once people adjust and it might get a little bit better? Hopefully?
That’s definitely a possibility. As I’ve said in the past it’s very important to consider your long-term life/work/school schedule when considering whether to run or sign up for an event. I have noticed in the past week or two less new events have popped up, so either I’m not finding them lol, or we’re heading into a lull which will hopefully allow things to even out
Anonymous said: 12 days ago on top of "too many events", there are a lot of /competiting/ events. 3 keith zines (for example) are all gonna compete with each other, period. people only have so much money to give, so someone buying 1 keith zine can't spend THAT SAME money on the other 2. (nor can they spend it on a lance zine, klance zine, etc). thinking these don't compete is the 1st mistake. creators are gonna spend time making things no one will buy and the mods are gonna lose money producing it.
Yeah, I touched briefly on the situation with zines a bit further up. I think the one saving grace for these zines is that while they may all be in production more or less at the same time they don’t go on sale at the same time. But I definitely hear you. We all want all the zines to do well, but like you say people aren’t made of money
Anonymous said: 12 days ago confession: im in an event run by the worst mod ever and its incredibly fucking frustrating. it feels like they dont give a shit about the event. i applied to their zine before i knew that but if i get accepted i WONT participate and in the rejection i will tell them why (its been over a month). they havent done ANY check ins as scheduled have basically disappeared and my artist hasnt replied either. im so mad i want to cry and drop out and never do an event again. this hurts us too you know
Aw Nonny I’m so sorry you’re stuck in this situation... The flipside of poor event management is fandom creators like you being turned off from participating in projects and that’s really upsetting. Fandom events should be a source of fun and creativity, not stress and anxiety. I’m so sorry, I hope in the meantime since you sent this your situation has improved ;A;
Anonymous said: 12 days ago Guys please don't encourage mods who are continuously late on their dates or end up canceling their event due to their poor planning. I get that you want to treat them well but not giving honest feedback ("please keep to the schedule in the future" or "I'm disappointed this was cancelled") tells them that there are no consequences to their bad management. But there are: one week only had 2 participants. Zines aren't making money. Too many events + bad mods = poor participation. I'm sick of it.
This is important. If the way something is being run isn’t working it’s important to say so, otherwise how will the mod grow and learn to do better in the future. I know it feels like “calling out” but it needs to be said. Seeing an event to completion is a partnership between the organizer(s) and the participants and both sides need to be proactive and be willing to listen to each other
Anonymous said: 10 days ago My 2 cents on the events discourse: they're optional so don't sign up. Personally I'm sick of having shitty mods and terrible experiences so i won't be doing anymore vld events. Sucks because i love fandom events but apparently no one who runs them gets the point of them so...
Yeah, I’m seeing more and more people saying they’re just not gonna participate in anything anymore and it sucks that it’s come to this. I totally understand though ://
Anonymous said: 8 days ago dear people who follow QC: we do not have unlimited money. zines for profit are going to continue to do worse because more people will hit their spending limits. we do not need multiple character zines, ship zines, or race zines (galran/altean/etc). if you think galra keith, nature keith and gen keith don't compete with both each other AND the lance zines then please take an econ class before launching. we have plenty more seasons, let's not run this fandom into the ground, shall we?
Anonymous said: 6 days ago I'm quitting fandom events. There are so many bad mods and it's made this experience really terrible for me. I'm telling you in hopes that you publish this ask so people who see it will think about if they're modding for 15 min of fame or if they're taking it seriously. Enough is enough
I think I’ve pretty much said everything further up, so I’ll just leave these last two ones here like this
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huntypastellance · 7 years
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When antis are too lazy to research & you gotta do their homework for them.
Masterpost of current fuckery (still missing some stuff)
Still think Lord Pastel Lance is reaching? (If you want direct links, shoot us a BLOOD tribute/ask. We used screenshots so you can’t pull the “lol who cares about your link sources bye” card.)
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The infamous Shalluragate happens after Wondercon reveals that Allura is a teenager & not an adult. Antis implode & start mass-deleting all their Shallura content. The “Allura is a lesbian” movement is started in response to this: as antis had used Shallura’s “diversity” before as a weapon against Shaladins. Now, they’re using lesbian Allura as their new tool of performative wokeness against the evil “racist” shippers. Shitllurans make up tons of excuses to ship shallura while still attacking & harassing shaladins for being “nasty”. A petition is started to get the ages from the staff (which fails). (1)
Hypocritical anti causes a PR scandal for an Anime Convention. (1, 2)
An adult anti chases after an underaged Shaladin even after the Shaladin blocks them for being creepy. (1, 2)
The adult anti makes a different account blog & sucks up to an adult Shaladin to try to get that Shaladin to tell the minor that the anti made an apology post. (1)
The adult anti gets tired of being ignored & goes to an underaged minor anti to be comforted.
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Antis later put the minor on the Shaladin block list instead of protecting the minor from the creepy adult anti. (1)
Klance14 (an anti) tries to blackmail Studio Mir over the Voltron photo leaks. Antis & Klancers refuse to do anything about it & try to pin the blame on Shaladins without any proof. (1)
[Fairymatsu, the troll with like a hundred other accounts (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
IMPORTANT NOTE: They are neither an anti or a shaladin. They are a troll with a long history of harassing people in other fandoms. If you have received a message like this:
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then that means the account was made by Fairymatsu. Check the archive link on the sidebar of Our blog to see how to avoid them & what Fairymatsu has done. Currently, they’ve escalated to gorespamming.]
Klancer anti blames US for being Fairymatsu & obnoxiously replies to every MirGate post. (1)
Infamous harasser spacerangerpartners/keith-mcclains continues to bother & threaten voice actor Jeremy Shada. (1) NOTE: They have since then apologized & deleted the comments. (But from their attitude when We spoke to them, We do NOT believe that they are actually apologetic about it. They seem more mad that they were caught & called out on it rather than actually being sorry for it).
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StrawGate, in which tons of antis attack Bex-TK over a few joke comments & she finally snaps back. (1)
Operation Shalanonymous: in which 2 underaged Shaladins expose leaks from an allegedly “child-safe” anti discord filled with Shaladin porn, cyberstalking, sexual harassment & death threats towards minors & ignoring an actual rape blog. Antis later tried to do damage control by claiming that the minor had sent them all rape footage in an attempt to traumatize them & that the screenshots were taken out of context. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)
[Fairymatsu, the troll with like a hundred other accounts, impersonates me to harass both antis & shippers. Twice. (First time was the blog shalanonymous).
(1, 2) - first attempt The blog “shalanonymous”
NOTE: Upon contacting that blog, it turned out that it was NOT Fairymatsu, but instead an anti & the whole thing was some sort of inside joke with antis.
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AnarcheryLesbian (Allura-of-Altea) gets her friends, quiznah & klanced, all Big Name Fan antis, to encourage their followers to harass voltronwlwmonth, a month started by Shaladins. They made up lies about the mod & later Anarchery was exposed that she shipped a pairing of a teen girl with an adult woman in a different fandom & could not tell them apart by age. (Even though it was blatantly obvious). The antis’ month, vld-wlw-month, does not even follow their own rules & had a Broganes prompt at one point.
Starryklance (creator of the Shipper Block List) later made excuses for her saying stuff like “She didn’t know, she doesn’t ship it now” & had the audacity to tag it as “Don’t rush to conclusions & accuse people right away without any proof” even though she, quiznah & klanced had all made false claims about the shaladin mod of voltronwlwmonth. (1, 2, 3, 4)
The Voltron House: how VLD kins abused a toddler in real life & nearly killed a trans teenager IN REAL LIFE. (1)
Antis attack Bex for supporting shaladin ships & for shipping Pance, calling her homophobic slurs & a traitor to the gay community. Fairymatsu calls Bex slurs & antis immediately deny all responsibility. Antis also threaten to physically attack Bex & call Bex a child abuser when she tells them that she’s not afraid of them.
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An anti plagiarizes MisterPoofOfficial’s Sheith fanwork & opens a floodgate for other antis to attack & spam Poof’s page. Meanwhile, the antis constantly crow about how Klance is “sin” because the plagiarized piece was NSFW Klance porn. Interview with Poof was done with permission & the final post was approved by Poof. (1)
for-submissions, an anti, harasses Minty, an underaged shaladin & threatens to report her friends to a British Federal website for reporting cases of child abuse & child rape if she doesn’t give the anti her personal info. The anti refuses to believe that Minty is underaged &, although later apologizes for reporting Minty to that site, later brags about reporting other shaladin blogs to the website. WHICH IS ILLEGAL. (1)
List of antis making death threats at & condoning sending death threats to shaladins, compiled by anti-anti-survivor. (1)
An anti claiming that shaladins should be fed needles like the Taiwanese Undertale artist who nearly died at the convention in England. (1)
Vorgtron & other klantis sexually harass Karen Lance, a real estate agent, verbally online to get her twitter handle @ klance. Vorgtron fakes a hoax where one of their members is arrested by the cops after Karen called the cops, then makes excuses for the hoax, lies about Karen being inactive & repeatedly slanders her online. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Lancestan/Klanti, Lynn, steals $1400 from a McHanzo (Overwatch) charity zine to buy Lance badges & fanmerch for her SECOND Lance-themed ita-bag. The antis make excuses for them, lying that she’s a minor who was Robin-Hooding a bunch of gross “incest” shippers who allegedly infested the zine (rival shippers were not allowed in the zine because it was a McHanzo-ONLY zine). (1, 2, 3)
Update: Lynn fucked people over one last time by sending them poorly made zines with no artist credits & no return address. People are planning on suing her over this. (1)
Vorgtron member brags about forcing the kids she was babysitting to watch Voltron with her & then illegally films them & uploads it online publicly to show the kids talking about how Sheith is “sexual assault” & “Klance is canon & gay” for discourse points. Vorgtron & other antis support her & excuse everything disgusting about it & how she fed the kids lines & misconceptions about sexual assault & Voltron. One member then claims that the people calling them out are worse than the rapist who assaulted them as a kid. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)
Antis make jokes about shooting Bex, the VA, & brag about having access to guns. They turn the whole thing into a meme & scream abuse when other people tell them that they could be arrested for making terroristic threats like that. (1, 2)
Anti troll screeches that their 11 year old sister found klance porn & trans Lance stuff on tumblr. This “traumatized” her, ESPECIALLY the trans Lance stuff, & the anti blames the shaladins for this for some reason, hurling death threats everywhere. (1, 2)
Antis make up lies & claim that Minty, from the Shalanonymous wank, was the one who started calling Shiro’s brains “scrambled eggs”. What really happened was that she was QUOTING ANTIS who called him that (one of their many attacks to demonize Shiro in order to make Shaladin ships abusive). They also  claim that they DID report a rapists’ blog after they were traumatized by a rape video of an underaged girl, from a “report this rapist” post that Minty linked them, which would have been impossible because you can’t actually watch the video without PMing the rape blog for the video file first. (1)
Anti tries to remain a pure defender against sheith & shaladin but openly goes gaga for Devilman Crybaby, a series that should have made their heads explode considering the “problematic content” in it. They even try to bar shaladins from the fandom, claiming that the “antis” were there first despite being a 17 year old & the original Devilman manga being made in the 70s. They also attempt to shame & scold the Devilman fandom before getting blasted by both antis & shaladins for being such a hypocrite. Eventually they shut their inbox & went on hiatus.
http://archive.is/isakashi.tumblr.com <- the first 5 pages of their blog in case they delete (showcasing their willful ignorance & them openly ignoring netflix rating systems & being all “well just because i didnt say that it’s not okay for canon to show it, that doesn’t mean that i support it!” about shit) (1, 2, 3)
A Klanti (the same one who wrote the 50k+ “Klance is canon” meta) starts a war against the Korrasami & Bubbeline shippers on twitter for no fucking reason other than to be obnoxious because “Klance is SUPERIOR to Korra x Asami (Legend of Korra) & Bubblegum x Marceline (Adventure Time)”. Put together with misc. anti bullshit like keith-against-sheith claiming that ace headcanons of the paladins is sexualization of minors & sourwolf-wot screeching about “nasty shaladins” sexualizing minors while openly saying that people only ship shaladin because they’re “sick fucks who’ve only been in abusive adult x minor relationships & think that that’s the norm”. They also seem to be okay with Wincest (Supernatural) but think that sheith is incest & used Klance porn as their blog header at one point despite Lance being a minor. (1)
Vldflops, a hate group full of antis, starts reposting people’s art (heith, shaladin, langst) to mock & deride on Instagram, often calling the artist a pedophile & an abuser. They even went so far as to post uncensored photos of REAL SUICIDAL/DEPRESSED PEOPLE slitting their wrists & then had the nerve to “educate them” (in a condescending & insultingly uncaring manner) not to “romanticize self-harm”. They even accused one of the people in the photos of being langstdreams* (which it WASN’T & langstdreams SAW that).
They keep getting reported to instagram, having their accounts deleted & then remaking a new account to continue harassing people (you cannot get them to take down your art because they will insult you if you DM them & make up a fake abuse backstory to get you to feel bad about “harassing” them).
They even went so far as to encourage their followers to cyberstalk & send death threats to people & when one victim said that they were going to commit suicide, vldflops immediately posted cropped (in a biased way) screencaps of the DMs on their instagram & cried to their followers about how their victim was giving them anxiety by trying to commit suicide over a ship. (Which is 100% a lie & vldflops has gone back to harassing those same people AGAIN).
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*langstdreams is a shipper who had been harassed & stalked by antis who repeatedly told them to kill themselves & deliberately misgendered them. (1)
Barlee is harassed by antis because she drew art of Shiro & Keith & called them bros. The antis attempted to throw the shaladins under the bus until Barlee clarified that it was the hundreds of Broganes comments from antis that caused her to lock the post’s comments. (1)
Kihyun Ryu also gets spammed by the antis on all the blatantly romantic Sheith art he drew on his instagram. He also received hate on his memorial art, for a friend & Studio Mir coworker who passed away in a car accident, from antis who claimed that the art was fatphobic & disgusting because Hunk was drawn serving food. Antis also accused him of being racist by coloring Hunk too pale, which is a huge fucking lie. (1, 2, 3, 4) - album showing the hate comments will be compiled on imgur soon!
Klantis illegally record Jeremy Shada accidentally breaking his NDA at an autograph signing (he spoiled some stuff about future seasons) & upload footage of it online, titling it as “Jeremy confirms canon Klance!”. It is literally nothing like that & now Jeremy is in legal trouble. Antis ignore this (other than the few who deleted the footage & posts of it) & celebrate Jeremy “escaping Lauren’s basement to confirm that Klance is canon”. They openly tweet at Lauren that Jeremy hates her & is “Klance cannon king”. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Antis bring up an old post about Josh from a whole year ago & start making fake accounts of him on twitter claiming that he is a pedophile & sending him & his family death threats. They harass him NONSTOP for 2 whole days & continue this even when he reports their accounts. Josh ends up caving to the antis & they openly celebrate his surrender, make fake apologies or excuses (”they’re just meme vines, not REAL death threats!”) for their behavior & continue to send him MORE death threats.
This leads to a tremendous amount of antis either doubling down on their “right” to send Josh & his family death threats or claiming that they had no idea that any of this was happening despite openly supporting their friends (who were sending the threats) & constantly shittalking the cast & defending people sending them threats for over a whole DAMN YEAR. (Check the Bex knife threats to see examples of that.)
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Update: A sheith shipper made an anti block list after this blew up only for antis to attack & stalk her by claiming that being on the list opened them up to attacks & gave them anxiety. They apparently completely forgot about the MULTIPLE inaccurate lists that they made about shaladins & that HAVE been used to attack shaladins in the past. Some antis also threw a fit because they weren’t “antis” anymore & were outraged that they were on the list (real ex-antis were only mildly annoyed). Some antis even bragged that they should be on the list, basically admitting that they supported the same people who sent Josh Keaton death threats. (1, 2)
Afterwards, many antis claimed that antis who send death threats to people aren’t welcome in the fandom & made posts claiming that Shaladins were equally in the wrong. However, those same antis have been documented sending death threats to people, too. (1)
Anti accuses Lauren of “queerbaiting” the fandom with Klance & says that she should drive her “Klance-fueled car” off a cliff & calls her a cunt. (1)
Another anti whines about Lauren talking with a Sheith shipper at a convention & threatens to scream “Broganes” at her to ruin the conversation while accusing them of being incest-loving pedophiles (that last part is implied). (1)
Joaquim talks about ships being like “forbidden fruit” & Klantis immediately take his quote out of context to make it sound like he was homophobic & attacked him until he apologized & clarified his statement, something that he shouldn’t have had to do. (1)
Insane klanti tricks their klanti friend into stealing a Sheith fan-edit (telling them that it was from the show) & letting the friend photoshop it into a Klance edit. After the klanti was accused of art theft, their friend ditched them & threw them to the shaladins because who would believe that someone would be so douchey as to trick their friend like that? (1)
Klantis harass Jeremy Shada on instagram for saying that “Keith & Lance have a brotherly relationship” in an interview. (1)
Anti harasses 2 adult Sheith cosplayers over their lap dance at an 18+ con & claims that they’re harassing the Shiro cosplayer because “they hate black people”. (1)
Kihyun Ryu’s art gets attacked by antis for being too “Sheith-y”. (1)
An anti by the name of bluepaladinstan harasses an underaged VLD cosplayer on twitter for being a shaladin. The harassment has been going on for MONTHS. (1)
Antis literally defend their racist caricature fanart by saying that the canon skin colors are “too boring” & that anyone who criticizes them is a racist. (1)
Anti admits that they will not confront people in real life over problematic choices (like buying 50 Shades of Grey) but that’s it’s “safer” for them to attack people online, despite this having less impact than doing it irl (because they really don’t care that much about their own cause - they’re a coward). (1)
Anti makes up bullshit story about how fanfiction led her “sweet” friend sexually assault children and pet dogs & how fanfiction is worse than “doing lines of crack cocaine”. (You can’t even do lines of crack cocaine! It’s physically impossible!) (1)
Anti rants about their best friend of 3 years being a Shidge shipper & another anti encourages them to dump their friend. (1)
Anti is so disgusted by Shaladin ships that they became grossed out by their own boyfriend (20) being 2 years older than them until they remembered that they turn 19 in a few months. (1)
Klantis attack the Voltron Cafe event solely because the staff went to an event run by shaladins (despite the event being ship-free). (1, 2)
An anti, keilua, makes a GoFundMe page to take them to Dreamworks HQ to punch the entire staff in the throats. (1)
Antis attack black comic artist for “drawing the VLD comic cover too ugly”. They even celebrate when the cover is pulled (not due to harassment but due to other circumstances). (1)
Sinningpaladin, aka sinpal, abuses antis & uses them to slam Shaladins & gain popularity with a flimsy lie that they were a Dreamworks intern, (claiming that Sheith was disgusting & that Dreamworks intended Klance to be endgame). This isn’t found out (by the antis anyway) until sinpal goes too far with the power the antis gave them. Later, they “apologize” by blaming it on their meds & mental illness. (1, 2)
Antis accuse POC Lance cosplayers in Shamus’ “Lance is Bi” article of brownfacing despite literally being presented a photo of the cosplayers’ faces. They suddenly retreat after the cosplayers themselves refute them on twitter. Meanwhile, an anti doubles down on it & claims that Shaladins using this incident as proof that antis are racist are even MORE racist & that it’s okay for antis to accuse POC of brownfacing so long as they get “educated” about it. They also rant that lightskin POC shouldn’t care about being accused of brownfacing because they will never suffer as much as darkskin POC. (1, 2)
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They also attack Lion Forge (a POC-run company) over the VLD cover being “whitewashed” despite the fact that it was another company handling the covers & there was no way for Lion Forge to get it fixed. (1, 2)
Klantis make Jeremy’s selfies with his girlfriend all about Klance instead, claiming that the rainbow is proof of Jeremy supporting Klance, (this was an actual rainbow & not the LGTBQ+ flag btw). They also make endless disrespectful jokes about Lauren locking the cast in the basement & drew fanart of that, too.
Klantis draw fanart of Jeremy x Steven for Klance & secretly recorded their white classmates, (claiming that they’re Klance whitesonas because they’re wearing red & blue shirts), while accusing Shaladins of doing the same thing for Sheith. They continue spouting the term “whitesona” with zero irony. (1, 2)
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