Crazy how anyone-- creators, fans, in-canon characters, even Spike himself-- could possibly think his love for Buffy would ever stop. I'm reading the S12 comics again with the intent to fix them and I'm just like... everything he does is FOR Buffy. Every single action of his post-Fool for Love, or arguably post-Intervention, has been because he loves her. For better or worse.
The actively avoiding doing evil. The playing nice with her friends and family. The risking his own life for her and her loved ones. Staying with Dawn and helping the Scoobies when she was dead. The months he was spiralling into darkness with her. Even Seeing Red.
And the soul definitely helped keep him on a strictly not-evil path once he got it, but he's still not quite as selfless on his own as he is when she's in his life. And whatever good and heroic acts he does by himself, they're supported by a soul he got FOR HER. It's a burden he carries for her; it's a brand, something he knew would change him forever, that is more permanent than any wedding vow.
None of this is to say Spike wasn't, or couldn't be, good on his own, without her or without a soul. I'm not saying that at all. What I am saying is that he was completely reborn by his love of her, and to entertain even the possibility of that love ending, even by him, is pretty ludicrous.
Because EVERY time you see him, from mid-s5 onwards, right down to the the murkily-canonical comics, he is only standing there and doing or saying whatever he is because he loves her. And that kind of depth and connection between two characters is something I've never seen before.
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most tragic death on btvs was Spike's eyeliner and mascara game once he got a soul
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11.11.23 The Devout 🪲
The full Slay the Princess game is finally out! @blacktabbygames continue to thrill and surprise.
My take on a hypothetical route of “The Devout”.
In this one you “convince” The Princess of the correct path, much to the relieved bewilderment of The Narrator. You know what they about foxholes.
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I have solved the mystery of why Spike feels so off in AtS Season 5. Because I'm rewatching Buffy's cameos in S1 of Angel and she feels the same way, in that she just doesn't feel like Buffy, at all. She's bitchier, whinier, way more self-absorbed, which was kinda the problem with Spike in AtS S5 as well.
And I can't help but wonder if that's because it's how Angel secretly sees them, so that's how they're portrayed on his show. It explains why he's such a dull hunk of wood and Spike is just charisma and sexiness and love and devotion and danger and pain on BtVS. Because that's how Buffy subconsciously sees them. Of course the actions are still the actions, obviously, however they're perceived, but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean that the characters were written and created from the POV of the protagonist, and even the actions we're not fond of just came along because the protagonist expected nothing less of them.
Would have been interesting to have a Spike series and see how he views these two lol. I'm guessing Angel as one of those French aristrocrats in a powdered wig and Buffy as a sword-wielding queen of the fairies.
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Editing to add that I actually think there is a very clear divide on who belongs on which show. Angel, Cordy, Wesley, Faith, Harmony, Dru, and Darla THRIVED on AtS character-wise, and I actually liked every single one of them so much better on that show than I did on Buffy.
Spike and Buffy belong on the original. I'm a strong believer in crossovers, but only in micro doses, haha, and not destroying the stories that BtVS had been so carefully building.
Andrew can bop around on whatever show he wants, he's good at picking up the flavor of whoever he gets close to, like a mushroom.
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