#spn lucifer (derogatory)

[woundlingus]

“This is unacceptable. Ketch, who's wily, it’s possible he could fly under the radar. But the archangel? The archangel! I should at least detect a blip. We're connected...”

[mlobsters]

supernatural s3e3 bad day at black rock

points were made

[quietwingsinthesky]

anyway. thinking about it/its and she/her Lucifer now. I was talking earlier about Michael’s gender/sense of identity and how it contrasts against Lucifer’s. Michael builds himself up in opposition or in support of something which is. Fine? But that’s not really an identity of his own, something that’s only his. Take those others in his life away and he flounders for purpose and identity, yeah?

Whereas Lucifer, its had to build up its own identity, but it is still an angel. (Michael’s not exactly original when it comes to his approach of building (or not building) a sense of self. Most of them are defined a lot by their relationship to heaven/other angels in their garrison, and real individuality is discouraged to punished at worst. Even “higher ups” like Zachariah like. He’s doing his job. He’s there to do his job for Michael. That’s who he is.)

But Lucifer doesn’t have that. can’t have that. Not anymore. So what does it have? Titles and roles. The lightbringer, the Morningstar, the devil, and it takes them, all of them, and fits them into itself. Turns the puzzle pieces until they can be jammed together to make a being who knows what they are (or at least, thinks they know what they are.)

And so, when taking a vessel, wearing flesh and blood, human words and ideas filtering through a borrowed brain, why would she not take on these roles as well? Fit them to herself. She introduces herself in the image of Nick’s wife, as Jessica, and it’s not so much that she’s feminine/a woman but that the words can be molded into its identity.

The good and the bad of the roles, too. She did not shy away from what being the devil meant, after all, the terrible things she would do. She stands before Nick and Sam as a ghost first, vengeance in a white dress second, and these are pieces of her, right?

This is rambling, I know, but thoughts. Thoughts. Lucifer’s identity may be one she can construct internally, one she can keep ahold of even when she’s alone, but it is still heavily influenced by the views of others and how she absorbs that perception.

[t4tsaileen]

[vessellisms]

[starsstillshine]

destiel goes canon this destiel goes canon that. why bet on it going canon for the millionth time in british in good omens 2 when cas was already mentioned in lucifer and mollins would be ass out for netflix

[incarnateirony]

Okay, so anyway--some of you from POLOL know the backstory, but some don't.

Basically, we were laughing at bronlies thinking "the military" has any particularly strongly exclusive miltary-y feelings about Supernatural. It started chuckling about why SPN has a strong, white non-urban demographic to begin with--people who mostly COULDN'T make it in the military but Love Gunz. Very little real combat experience. Most military people would want to take away Sam's gun and smack him across the face from it from Jared's shooting stance--which I can't tell if it's a matter of not knowing how to shoot, or just trying to keep his long assed arms in a shot.

Either way, it moved into talking about one of my favorite topics that rarely goes anywhere in this fandom: the individual guys' fighting styles. Actual military guys in it for military fighting would be mostly interested in Castiel's style, especially before Misha's hip started going out (but they kept what parts of it they could).

So first, I got people talking about the difference in styles--

Castiel using territory, making people come to him, maintaining footing, using a lot of CQC and reversals and the general rhythm of his fighting; he is ACTUALLY CHOREOGRAPHED as military trained.

Cas actually being fairly consistent in a three quick beat, strike or gesture string before a fourth heavy followup, suplex or other major followthrough. R h y t h m.

Dean being a very forward and through think-on-your-feet street fighter/scrapper ("daddy's blunt instrument") --

the interchange of these in the real world where Castiel's style is basically designed to floor people with Dean's style.

The fact that Sam barely has a physical style, is mostly given concussions in physical fights (we located one physical brawl he actually won in without magic or guns, but he was hopped up on demonblood pcp so take that as you will), but is also the calculate-your-shot marksman (or magician) at range

while Dean unloads whole clips most of the time,

literally even the pilot fight Sam only "won" after Dean won and didn't, you know, kill or seriously harm his brother to knock him out.

and so on.

ANYWAY, I pointed out, for example, that if Cas actually barges towards an enemy, something is very wrong. Either for once he has truly been absolutely overcome by anger, which is rare for him--or it's a task he doesn't expect to come back from. For example: 12x23, barging through the portal towards Lucifer.

Let's be real, Castiel had no thought in his mind of suddenly being able to kill Lucifer with his pigsticker. His only intent was to get in there, burst past Sam and Dean, and give them the time they needed to get out (and seal Lucifer in.) With him there. Dead or alive. Probably dead. Because general power structure.

So anyway this long post of observations aside, I pointed something out that... I thought everybody thought? Cuz someone was like

"Just marched right up to Lucifer, stabbed him in the stomach, and we don't see it but the sequence is probably him just leaving his blade there inside Lucifer, turning, and marching right back into the portal. the Lucifer strike was supposed to be fatal or hinder him for enough time for the portal to close but I guess it was too quick"

And I was like nah-- nah--

This Dued (derogatory) — Today at 3:31 PM

I don't think so

I think lucifer threw him threw the portal hence the winded look assessing environment instead of staying in motion

then dropping

Let them see each other before losing it all

If cas marched back out he would have stalked back to sam and dean

Not stood there taking a breath like The Fuck

Im pretty sure lucifer yeeted him just to fillet him in front of sam and dean

Anyway, this got me yelled at.

Anyway enjoy

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#5

CreationENT (derogatory)

27 notes • Posted 2021-10-16 22:03:49 GMT

#4

We should stop asking Misha questions about destiel, and just ask solely about Jensen from now on. It's what he wants to talk about anyway, apparently

102 notes • Posted 2021-11-07 02:39:16 GMT

#3

The destiel censorship was absolutely insane, homophobic, and is still infuriating to think about! For years and years we were forbidden to talk about something that is now literally canon! It’s like we had said, “I would like to ask about Sam freeing Lucifer from the cage, something I saw with my own eyes” and TPTB going “No, you’re just imagining that happened, and talking about it would ruin things for everyone.” 

AND it wasn’t just Creation! Curtis Armstrong saying he got in trouble for his glorious destiel tweet is just extra vindication that we were right about the homophobia in every level of the show. 

Atone for your sins! I demand atonement! Also, next, please confirm cockles censorship at cons

169 notes • Posted 2021-09-06 06:02:13 GMT

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Hey J*red shut the fuck up

.......no that’s it

177 notes • Posted 2021-10-17 01:15:16 GMT

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So Jensen’s gonna be in a western?

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[soysaucecas]

oooh for the ask game 24, 30, and 44!

MAGPIE MY BELOVED HELLO

24. What are your favorite episodes?

The only episodes I've really watched are TMWWBK (which is my favorite episode and I'm certain would still be my favorite if I watched every single one because it has the only SPN character and the only SPN line), The French Mistake (which was funny enough but honestly in the Just Okay category for me, which makes me pretty sure I wouldn't enjoy actually watching SPN if this is one of the funniest/highest-rated eps), and Reading Is Fundamental (my best friend was watching it and asked me if I wanted to hop on Discord, I thought it might be fun to see Kevin's first introduction but instead this ep found the two of us taking like 90 minutes to get through it bc we kept pausing and screaming (derogatory) as the model minority stereotype jokes piled up and up and up... Unfortunately not a favorite even if we got Meg AND the "pull my finger" joke AND the "Sorry" shot). Other than TMWWBK, from clipping and transcript-reading, I like Wayward Sisters (who doesn't?), The Things We Left Behind (Claire!!!! Cas trying to be a dad! The diner scene aka my favorite destiel scene of all time bc being in love just looks so good on Cas! Also the parallels between Claire and Randy and teen Dean and the adults at that club in his story... woof.), Golden Time (Eileen gets to be HERE and be sad and loved and fight people with ghost powers and Cas gets to do a cool speech and a stabbing and do the Asian community a favor), and Lucifer Rising (just immensely sexy on all counts for Ruby, Sam, Cas, and myself). Also I am SO fond of Steve!Cas so I'll add Heaven Can't Wait even if I barely know anything about it.

30. What is an unpopular opinion or headcanon you have about the show?

Ooh okay hm I think. So I adore confession scene, but I don't think the "I cared about the whole world because of you" is like. The Objective Truth the way that most bloggers seem to take it. Cas was lobotomized tons of times before he met Dean, he was described as coming off the line with a crack in his chassis, he's always been the weird little angel who likes humanity too much! I don't think Dean came first, and although gay love was part of what helped Cas invent free will, he *Ruby voice* didn't need the feather to fly, Dumbo! I do think Cas believes what he says in the moment, but I also think he sorta... made himself believe it? This is probably just me deciding that cas-coding should go both ways, but like. I very much crush as a coping mechanism and I very much overascribe my actions to love because it simply seems more noble/poetic to do so. Being miserable because school is hard is cringefail but being miserable because of unrequited love is Good Shit. And I have been in unrequited love with my best friend for at least 7 years (probably 9 but I didn't realize it earlier) and if you asked I would 100% say that she taught me love and defined love for me and that she will be my first and last, but I also know that that is not entirely true; it's just the narrative that I like for myself. And I think that being in an Empty deal contingent on whether or not he LETS himself feel happy would lead Cas to do plenty of mental maneuvering, which I think involved intentional self-poor-little-meow-meow-ification via overascribing his choices and happiness to Dean (and I also think he'd already been doing that for a while just because of personal self-worth issues and because it's a nice narrative). I know as Cas's last Moment on the show it was probably written to be The Objective Truth, but I am perceiving him and I say no.

44. If you could write an episode of Supernatural, what would happen?

Oh scream okay! This is a fun one! I am going to start out with two ideas from other people:

1. Months ago Nate from the pocnatural discord had the idea of an episode from the "monster"'s perspective where the Winchesters are just clearly the antagonists while not doing anything different than they usually do. I think the idea was that all these supernatural beings live in a self-regulating community together and we have one Very Likable pov character who's a member of this community, but one of the newer members messes up one day and kills someone and the Winchesters come on a case and wreak havoc on this Very Much Functioning (there was going to be a whole rehab and reparations thing for the new member who messed up!) system and kill pov character and in the end you just HATE Sam and Dean for it.

2. It's hard to adapt anything from bad moon rising (aka my favorite spn fic) very well because the point of an Arab Winchesters season 1 rewrite is that it doesn't really work with the white characters we have now, but I think I could see a version of chapter 2 adapted as long as Haley (an Ojibwe hunter who lives in the area affected by what Sam and Dean are hunting) takes the lead. I'd especially like to see this section:

Dean laughs, a little disbelievingly. The question has never crossed his mind. “Do you like it?”

This gives Haley no pause at all. “Yeah,” she says. “I mean, it’s not really about killing monsters, though, for me. Or, it’s not always about killing monsters. It’s about community. Not violence. It’s a spiritual thing to build a home, you know?”

“Oh,” Dean says. He can’t think of anything else to say. It has never crossed his mind before that hunting could be compatible with a community.

I don't have any original episode ideas to add to the hunting discourse, so we're on to my ideas about character-driven eps. I think I would like to see a version of my sastiel possession fic (ty again for beta-ing that! you're a real one) as an ep around the time of 9.11 because Sam deserves to work through their trauma, but idk what the Dean plot should be for that. Another thing I would like very much is TFW drunk history storytime (so like. Tall Tales bass boosted), where for some reason they all need to go over what they were doing during Stanford era but each of them is telling someone else's story. It's gonna be either Sam->Dean->Cas->Sam or Dean->Sam->Cas->Dean. It starts out very funny (they all have terrible wigs and makeup in the flashbacks. Cas is Jimmy wearing a giant mask with googly eyes on it.) but as it goes on it gets increasingly sad how much these three don't really know each other.

In the Sam->Dean->Cas->Sam episode, Sam's telling of Dean's past veers wildly between "crushing pussy and killing things" and "feels like absolute shit all the time" and it's funny but Not Right and afterwards Dean goes "I didn't know you thought of me that way" and Sam says "... I am basically reading off the voicemails you left me back then" and Dean has to sit there and contend with the mythology he himself wrote for Sam to believe in. Dean->Cas provides the comedic beats for the episode as Dean awkwardly narrates Cas's Life As A Weird Little Guy who watches trees grow and heals babies and in the end Dean goes "so how did I do" and Cas is like "well actually I was either getting lobotomized or murdering people so like 3/10?" The moral of this plot line is that Dean is bi. Cas gives a fairly faithful retelling of Sam living her trans little life at Stanford and veering between trying to be Normal and being a total weirdgirl and feeling guilty and angry and happy and free. It becomes clear that Cas admires Sam a lot (but also feels like. guilt and some self-recrimination for not being that) for rebelling from their dad and exploring their queerness during a time Cas was still to his knowledge in total soldier mode, and Sam is having an a_good_soldier's Thesis 5 moment about how she failed the kid she used to be and how very sorry they are about all the things that happened to them, and Dean hates that this is the first he's hearing about so much of this but is also quite emo about the parts where Sam is struggling. The ep ends with them all in the same room not looking at each other and not knowing if they want to group hug or never talk again.

Dean->Sam->Cas episode is similar but the storytelling dissolves a lot faster as it becomes clearer way faster how much their own emotions are getting in the way. Dean is upset that Sam could leave their family so easily and probably swing a normal life, Sam keeps wondering what it would be like to live millennia just KNOWING that you were right and good and clean, and Cas is gay and veering between fitting Dean's life into a larger Righteous Man narrative and just being very tender (and sad and angry) about Dean's pain. Episode ends in a rather cathartic shouting match where they all end up apologizing to each other for many things.

Oh also I would like to see Cassie again but I don't have an episode in mind there. Also would love to see Kaia adjusting to life in Sioux Falls and befriending the others and dealing with Bad Place trauma.

tysm for the questions sorry for taking so long!

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[navajolovesdestiel]

Hello! I’m new to the SPN fandom and wondering, why do people not like Lucifer? Is it a character thing or is it more about the actor? Just confused.

Well, for me, it’s both. I feel like Lucifer was just a time filler in this past season. Him took time away from the real plot line.

Mark Pelligrino is, in my humble opinion, an asshole. He is very right wing in his political views, and has in the past made derogatory comments about Muslims and Trans people. I have no time for that.

[quietwingsinthesky]

Rate your blorbos on how good they are at sex and why

I'm assuming, anon, that in coming to a spn blog, you will not be insulted if the majority of these are spn blorbos. I'll go from best to worst. Also, can't tell if you mean "objectively good at sex" or like "good at sex in my opinion." I'm gonna assume the latter because it's funnier.

Gomez & Morticia Addams - 20/10 - They would both score very high separately, but you cannot separate them. That's illegal. Canonically they are hot and they are fucking. Probably use knives in interesting ways, and that's on vanilla days.

Nick spn - 15/10 - I feel like Nick should not be up this high?? i'm sorry, i'm not immune to sad pathetic wife man. Again, canonically? he fucks. Pros: i could definitely top this man and he would be very into it. Cons: is in love with the devil? I mean, that's not so much a con to me but ymmv.

Kratos (God of War) - 13/10 - Oh! My newest blorbo! Look at him! He's huge! He's got big muscles! He is capable of both cutting someone's head off with a ax and also great gentleness! I REPEAT: CANONICALLY FUCKS! FUCKS SO WELL HE LANDED A HOT GIANT LADY!!!

Agnes Montague - 12/10 - Okay. Here me out. In the thirty seconds before all the flesh melted off your bones, Agnes Montague would blow your mind. And then, yes, literally blow your mind. But it would be so, so, so worth it. To me.

Raphael - 10/10 - I should be clear that I'm not rating Raphael so much on actual skill as on like. Vibes. Did you see that lightning? The drama? Imagine that, but during sex. Would you end up with some weird scars? Maybe. But the experience would be worth it.

Gabriel - 9/10 - Objectively probably pretty good at sex. He's been around a long time. However, it would also be extremely weird. This man thinks lava lamps set the scene. Sex is half a performance and half an experiment. And you know what? I love that. I want in. I wanna see what weird shit he'd get up to trying to be sexy.

Sam Winchester - 9/10 - Ruby/Sam sex scenes awoke something in me and I haven't been the same since. 'Nuff said.

Will Graham - 7/10 - Definitely cries during sex. This is not a con to me. He is weird and feral, and I dig that in a man. Probably gives good head.

Cersei Lannister - 5/10 - She is blonde and scary. Also, has a lot of experience. Canonically fucks? Taking points off for most of that experience being with her other family members, but I Am Not Immune To A Hot Mess On A Throne.

Lucifer - 4/10 - Canonically fucks (derogatory.) You can't tell me that sex with him would not be awkward as all hell. Best case scenario is that he's a bossy pillow princess. Worst case scenario is that you get exploded into very unsexy meat chunks. However... that tongue tho....

Blue Oak - 3/10 - Let's just say, I don't think their sex lives is what's holding the Blue/Red Alola marriage together.

Michael spn - 2/10 - Has the same problems as Lucifer except he's just regular bossy. Will present you with a spreadsheet describing how well you performed afterwards.

GLaDOS - 1/10 - No. No. Absolutely not. Well, maybe- NO.

Jonathan Sims - 0/10 - Canonically does not fuck. Good for him. Probably a terrible cuddler, too.

Michael Afton - -100/10 - That's a corpse, sir.