#support: clive

[winterstorm032802]

Clive and Jill have real romance. None of the "Don't do it, I know they hurt you, but don't stoop to their level" thing. Jill is like "I want to kill this man cause he tormented me for years and abused my powers." And Clive is like "Yeah, no problem, I'll fight everyone else who gets in our way and you kill that fucker."

[aethersflood]

Since the moment we first met, you have always been an important part of me. The half that makes me whole. When times are darkest, you are my light. When I am lost, you are my guiding star. You are just what I need. You are all I need. You are the greatest gift.

[kasztanek86]

Clive Szczyl

(Szczyl [sh-tch-yl], a word of polish origin in slang: meaning a bastard, shitling, stupid fuck, etcetera, etcetera. used in a humorous way as a play-on-words for the character's last name because it sounds similar.)

[neentje]

Clive and Pam? Clive and Pam.

[infernaleikon]

[moonilit]

Thinking about these two beautiful strong ladies becoming best friends 💙🤎

*psst* chapter 19

[hadesknockedupintheunderworld]

One flavor of Tereclive I think about probably the most often is post FFXVI canon, Clive is the only one who survives Origin, and the two of them just have this slow burn that starts with them both ending up bonding over losing their most important people.

To me, their love wouldn't be passionate. It wouldn't be that of soulmates, or of two people just filled with this love they need to express. It would be this domestic love, a getting married later in life kind of love, love between two people who are tired and trying to continue living without that person who was their everything and need each other now. Sure, it doesn't have to be each other necessarily, but...it seems to work best that way.

Terence's second love isn't the same as falling in love with your best friend, pledging to be there for him his entire life, and getting to navigate teenagehood and relationships and fresh adulthood with him. It is not the same kind of love, but it is love all the same. There is love in the way his arms wrap around Clive as they sleep. It doesn't banish the nightmares, but it grounds him. It's not the same when he cuddles into Clive's chest (It doesn't feel the same, Clive doesn't smell the same either), but the experience is still unique to him. Dion can't be here for him, but at least Clive is alive and willing and truly cares for him. There is love in the way Terence teaches him cooking techniques, the way he'd attempted to some time ago for Dion. Sometimes, when Clive furrows his eyebrows, annoyed and frustrated with his progress, Terence can't help but smile. Clive is cute, and it's nostalgic. Sometimes, in moments like those, he can imagine Dion standing there with them, softly glowing, laughing until the corners of his eyes tear up. Most likely, Terence figures, this could never have happened if Dion hadn't, well... Of course, he'd choose to have Dion back in a heartbeat if he could, but there is something painful and sad about the fact that he couldn't have come to love and be with Clive if things had gone differently. That version of him wouldn't know this love they share, although that version also wouldn't have to suffer the finality of losing Dion for real. It's hard for him not to envy that version of himself.

But he's grateful for Clive too. Even though none of this was planned, though Clive didn't have to (or Terence for that matter), he stuck with him in the end. Terence's second love is an unremarkable thing, a grounding force, a love borne from loneliness and shared experiences. Terence's second love is deep, yet, and no less true.

As for Clive, he's been through the ringer with love. When he lost Joshua the first time, it nearly broke him. That smoldering ember that was his desire for revenge was about the only thing keeping him going after those thirteen years. And then, just as he'd started to heal and find his way in this world, he'd lost Cid. If not for that having been his second time, if not for Otto and Jill and Gav and everyone else who supported him the five years following, he may not have been able to accomplish all he had come to. He wasn't doing amazing, necessarily, but he was doing better than before. And then...and then of course Ultima ripped Joshua from him. His brother had lived, he hadn't actually killed him, and he'd barely any time to appreciate it before he was gone again, leaving another gaping hole in his heart. Terence... Terence could probably never be as important as they were to him, but that's okay. He'll be hung up on making the world a place Cid and Joshua and everyone else he's lost could be proud of for probably the rest of his life, the way Clive knows Terence will be for his prince. When it comes down to the wire, when things feel at their most hopeless, Clive knows he and Terence can find that strength to go on with each other. Having someone in your corner (and you theirs) who knows what you're going through can be a beautiful thing. Joshua was his world, Cid was the guiding star he chose to follow, and Terence...Terence is like the ground. He's there for him, he's supportive, he holds Clive through his nightmares and considers his needs. He's unassuming, but strong, solid. He can understand now why Terence, despite being one of the background characters of history, was so dear to the Dragoon prince. Terence isn't the kind of person one devotes themselves to, but he's...a really good friend. It inspires Clive back to try to be cognizant of his needs. Awkward though he is when people get emotional, he does his best to listen when Terence opens up about his loss. And when Terence holds his hand, a silent gesture, as Clive allows himself to open up about his own loss, a day comes where he no longer has to try not to pull away. Terence becomes a source of comfort for him.

Perhaps in another universe (one where his most important people hadn't died), this relationship of theirs would never have come to be. After all, it was one of circumstance. However, in that other universe (one Clive, admittedly, does wish he lived in), he pities the Clive Rosfield who might choose to overlook Terence, who doesn't choose to make his acquaintance at least.

But, all that aside, he's glad he has Terence. Terence doesn't expect anything from him, but he shows up (and Clive is all too happy to return that favor). This love of Clive's is not passionate, but it is true, and it runs ever deeper as time passes.

After going through all he has, Clive knew deep down when Joshua died again and he'd happened to live that he could never have chosen to leave this world. Even with Dion dead, Terence had chosen to persist. Dion would have wanted him to live on, he knew (and watch out for Kihel), and there was a piece of him that could not bear to choose to give up. It was hard, so hard to behold the state of the new world after the fall of Ultima, and to figure out what to do now, that it left them both a bit floundering inside trying to figure out "What now?" Just because Clive had the advantage of having an ideal he wanted to uphold didn't mean he had working plans. But together...they are able to assist each other, striving to make the world a place their loved ones and important people would be proud of.

[quotelr]

If you learn to develop an abundant mentality you will not be envious of others, you will celebrate their successes, you share in their joys and pains; don't see life as a competition but a complimentary.

Bernard Kelvin Clive

[cliji]

calling cliji warfield is insane like who are you and why are you inside our house in warville county, population: discord server, ao3 writers, tumblr users, and ppl who like and retweet user vax247 and babigonice and the occasional big artist’s fanarts ❓

[beliscary]

argh dion and jill parallels because when jill is like I have to kill this guy clive is like YEAH you do and when dion is like I have to kill my stepmom and her kid terence is like YEAH you do

[sacredechoes]

Clive and Fernand's support chain from Sacred Echoes. Functioning somewhat more like a memory prism and unlocked after the game's completion, this reveals the backstory of Clive and Fernand's relationship as we follow its deterioration across several years.

[aethersflood]

My boy, there was a time people called me the "Executioner". Or was that my axe? No matter, heads will roll all the same!

[looker-bureau]

Imagining Clive in Dissidia Opera Omnia is so fun even if none of these happen:

"So what are summons like in your world?" "We uh, are the summons..." "WHAT?!"

"Whats Cid like in your world?" Clive, not wanting to talk about Cid's death, "I am Cid." (Omg the main character is Cid!)

Clive 🤝 Rinoa use dog in a fight.

I wonder if Clive's FR would be with Rinoa or would a summoner be funnier?

Everyone owing their journeys to the blessing of the Crystals Vs. Clive's journey destroying the Crystals and their curse. (I wonder what that convo would be like.)

I just like imagining Clive becoming Ifrit in a pinch and someone just slowly puts their summon stone away while watching in awe.

Clive not knowing how his joruney ended and not getting memories on how it ended because of the ambiguous ending.

Not Clive, but I think a Lunafreya and Jill FR would be perfect for the Shiva association.

Welcome to the club, Clive, and co.

[brambletakato]

Flora doesn’t have a confirmed age so it was difficult figuring out what ships were and weren’t okay,,, In the end I decided to include the last two because of different interpretations regarding her age (which headcanons range from 13 to over 18).

[randomnameless]

Artbook stuff !

If you headcanon Drakengard having baseball as a national sport... Then the devs did it first !

(I know some things weren't translated in the app :( )

I wonder if the odd "elvish" words in the eng/fr (I couldn't check in other languages) versions were completely made up by the localisation teams, or if the devs gave them a thumbs up and shared some ideas they had about "Fevrith's elvish".

I believe "Jarna" is "Yahna" ? Who might be from Cornia but was set to be/have ties to Elheim?

My bad on Soldraga, I thought it was more based on "draco" to keep with the dragon themed kingdom, but why not, iirc it's mentionned after you liberate the castle that it becomes a meeting place for mercenaries?

Also, it's nice to have the reminder here'n'there that Travis'n'Berengaria are technically high ranked nobles from Drakengard (iirc their dad was Ludwig/Gilbert's master at arms?) but even if they come from a noble backgroud - lampshaded with Travis' love for books ! - they also live through the same nonsense everyone does during the Zenoiran occupation, they had to turn to banditry/merc life, etc etc and befriend Bruno, who's, uh, let's say not a noble at all. The status card isn't pulled out, they're partners/friends, and that's it.

[moonilit]

Jill seeing Metia fade at the end of the game: *cry* My wish is not granted

Metia flashing a morse code: GO.GET.YOUR.BF.HE.IS.AT.44.W.43.N-