#telic

[c0l0rsp1k3]

Thinking of getting a Speak & Spell because idk why tf not they're silly and i have an addiction to collecting old tech

Btw my collection currently contains: IBM Thinkpad, one stationary phone of unknown origin, 2 Alcatel stationary phones, one Gigaset AS 405 stationary phone, and Lars the Alcatel Telic 1 Minitel Terminal!

[acupressureforfeeet]

Telic Recovery Sandals – Do They Stop Foot Pain?

[ghostywind]

I re-read old D2 lore which was, regrettably, a gay mistake. Sft WIP of my beloveds.

[amphitheresarewingednoodles]

Me, casting a spell of "make native English speakers' heads hurt": Hail and well met! Pray tell, why are "I bake cakes" and "I baked a cake" fine but "I bake a cake" so utterly wrong?

Other examples include: >> I build houses✔ / I built a house✔ / I build a house✖ >> I write letters✔ / I wrote a letter✔ / I write a letter✖ >> I make diners✔ / I made a dinner✔ / I make a dinner✖

[aggravateddurian]

Storm Commandos

Don't mind me, just trying to find a way to look screenies from Arma 3 look good. Still working on it, will get there soon hopefully.

I call these four defenders of the New Order 'Telic Squad' (for no reason than I wanted to name them after British military operations):

Nerd shit below the cut for the Star Wars fans and Durian OC enjoyers:

From L to R (no names yet, we're working on their lore):

Trooper IC-6943: Former Stormtrooper, recently graduated from training, eager to prove himself to his commander and to the Empire

Sergeant IC-6391: Veteran Storm Commando. Holds a bitter hatred of the Rebels for killing his family in a terror attack. Very Crosshair-coded in the way he talks and interacts with others.

Commander IC-3507: Veteran Storm Commando. Believes that the Empire will save the galaxy and that the Rebels will get everyone killed. Fights in the hopes that Palpatine's promises of peace, freedom, justice and security will one day be all true.

Corporal IC-6869: Has been with the squad for a few missions now. Mostly keeps to herself.

If the Stormtrooper Corps are the Star Wars equivalent of Marines, then the Storm Commando branch are the equivalent of Marine Force Recon. Also known as the Shadow Scouts, they are probably the most versatile Imperial special forces. They were Inferno Squad before Inferno Squad was cool.

And, they get pimpin' rides:

(Image credit: Fractalsponge)

This is a TIE Hunter. It is literally the Empire's direct equivalent to the T-65 X-Wing. It looks rad as shit and I want one for real.

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[vieraslaji]

just so you know unless it's explicitly required by the verb I am 100% guessing every time I use the partitive. this is a fine strategy and I see no reason to discontinue it

[tanadrin]

I’m kind of spitballing this, but: I think it might be useful to distinguish “ideal societies” as falling into the following types:

Eschatological societies are ideal societies or conditions of humanity imagined as the result of a process of divine intervention, in fulfillment of some divine process or purpose. They are telic—a product of a process working toward a definite end—but that telicity is divine, not human, and humans cannot create this society; they can only prepare for its imposition by divine forces. A useful type specimen here might be the New Jerusalem of Revelation.

Edenic societies are sort of their inverse: ideal societies springing from the unmarred or undisturbed state of nature. They are often pre-civilizational in character. They cannot be returned to because the world has irrevocably changed since their downfall, and we no longer exist in a state of innocence or wisdom sufficient to realize them. The Garden of Eden is one example; the Golden Age of Hesiod is another.

Idylls are societies or conditions of humanity that are better than our own in many ways, but not as a process of telic development or divine intervention. They’re representative of one ideal or another, but they’re not the endpoint of history or its beginning. If anything they are most useful as a tool of fiction to draw the reader into a world, without necessarily embodying a specific didactic viewpoint. The Shire feels like such a society, a modern and particularly English treatment of the pastoral setting.

Utopias are specifically ideal societies that are the endpoint of a process of historical or philosophical development. They’re conceptually final, even if not literally eschatological, because the concept usually precludes anything but trivia improvement or alteration without corrupting the utopia. They are in one sense secular eschatology; though most utopias are not presented as inevitable in the same way the eschatological end of history is. Ironically, Utopia itself might be more of an idyll than a Utopia under this scheme—it depends on how much you think Utopia represents More’s own views on how a society is to best be governed.

(The dystopia isn’t really a separate category here, it’s just an artistic inversion of the utopia. I think that for various reasons dystopias are of particular interest to modern writers, especially after the horrors of the 20th century, and they’re a way to critique or interrogate the whole concept of a Utopia. They’re not ideal societies in the same sense—they are imagined, and are usually an exploration of an *idea*, but they are not an expression of *idealism.*)

Utopias also stand out as the one member of this category that really bridges the conceptual-real divide. Like, they’re the thing people can work toward in the real world—people go out and found utopian communities all the time! Utopias can be a call to action in the way Eden or the eschaton isn’t (because both are beyond human power to create), nor even the idyll (because it’s not a culmination of a telic process). Even if you cannot ever create an actual utopia, you can (or so the hope goes) asymptotically approach it.

[headspace-hotel]

I've developed a method of generating names using InferKit and it's to click "random generator" on fantasynamegenerators website, select one name from the generator given, repeatedly click "random" until you have a list of names from a random assortment of generators, then give the list to InferKit. this foolproof method creates the utmost randomized fantasy names

Selected results:

Jorath Flechte

Hendzel Marca

Bivvar, the Axeman of Love

Marban Xax

Edin Baxard

Osombrating One [lowkey love this]

Tinted Nichemaker

Quaggy Jim

Solondral

Lytrion Nagual

Korben Roan

Smutius

Jhoss Thong

Fleckit Azal

Falepuffin

Dook'o

Pique Camomile

Galuzir of the Third Burial

Ivril Tuul

Chaffeet

Marvus Crilshar

Sporkbender

The Hague Noob [fave]

Eadne Applefritz

Sminty Auzaro

Thrixe Masquerain

Alun 'Tendril of the Callous' Eliasson

Flickers

Telic Feccle

Longtone Bee-Root

Tethe'lan

Hardtack Ari

Deste Daizee [absolutely using this at some point]

Malee Mehli

Martmuff

Paragon of Sin

Porze Quenlan

Captain Crunch, Heartless Lord

Curtainschuft

Joma Twisp

Farassim Farsniks [flawless consonance going on here]

Tally Ho Big Shadow

Peregild

Knut Oxensturr

Decibel Drears

Medley

Black Market Narcotic Dealer [a little on the nose don't you think?]

Whimsmith

Qubag the Loose Brocade

Horsecutter

Tina the Macaroni Master

Willam Boxx

Maelstrom Twistedfeather

Balageer Snif

Elega-Gallbladder

Klaugetunes

Lucius Ah, I Shall Scream!!

Divine Spine

Latchlin Snowfox

Gemmick

Machelle Toi

Eroril Léki

Daehlaakth Parro

D'Reekle

Armored Rider Tyrannosaur

Jackalforn

Uurd-Gildo

Azurag Perfidious

Huzzix

Seffran Ten Armour

Edsel D'Prey

Bowstraker Slothripper

Adam Jerkini

Monocorn

[play-now-my-lord]

This is going to be a little abstruse for tumblr, but I think the monomanic focus on genocide as mass murder by largely white queer people misses the forest for the trees on what's being done to trans people in America. The Holocaust - the one genocide everyone here knows - didn't fall from the sky on the crisp morning of January 20, 1942, nor on the blustery afternoon of September 15, 1935. It followed a thousand years of gentile Europeans hemming in the communal, cultural, religious, and economic lives of european Jewry, for the dominant classes' own gain and for their own reasons, and was in a sense an abnormal intensification of a historical "event" that stretched from the time of William the Conqueror to the present day. It was related to, and its course relied on, similar long-duration historical events by which race and nationality was constituted by the European political system.

Likewise trans people are conceptualized two ways by the system of the world: as a captive, relatively docile market for gendered labor and niche product consumption, and as sand in the gears of the binary gender system that a lot of the machinery of patriarchy depends on. Both frameworks necessarily hem in our communal, religious, cultural, economic lives! Even if none of us ever see the inside of a concentration camp there's still a genocide happening, it has been happening longer than we've been alive, and to be perfectly frank many of the people claiming to be our allies in the face of exterminationist rhetoric and courting our votes by gesturing to it are in on the scam. I think the "stages of genocide" talk is very silly and telic, betrays an incomplete understanding of this kind of ethnic/social cleansing

[protoindoeuropean]

btw not enough people are aware of the other triple reflex in Ancient Greek: the labiovelars

τέλος (→ telos, telic, teleology etc.)

πόλος (→ pole, polar etc., via Latin polus)

κύκλος (→ cycle, cyclic etc.)

– all of these words go back to different formations from the PIE root *kᵘel- 'to turn', with a different reflex of the initial labiovelar depending on the quality of the vowel in its immediate vicinity (*kᵘelos, *kᵘolos and slightly irregular *kᵘekᵘlos >> *kᵘₔkᵘlos > *kᵘukᵘlos respectively)

thus also Greek τίς = Latin quis 'who' (< PIE *kᵘis), Gk. ποῖος 'which' = Lat. quoius > cuius 'Gsg. who/what' (< PIE *kᵘosi̯os), as well as Gk. οὐκ < οὐκι 'no(t)' (< PIE *h₂oi̯u kᵘid) and so on

[acupressureforfeeet]

Does the Telic Dream Clog Work for Plantar Fasciitis?

[ghostywind]

I re-read old D2 lore which was, regrettably, a gay mistake. Sft WIP of my beloveds.

[transgenderer]

The capacity to be "in love" is sort of strange. It feels maladaptive evolutionarily. Presumably people have done it forever. But it's often chaotic and fleeting in a way that makes it seem bad for long term pair bonding to raise young. AND it often causes group cohesion problems. It's like some sort of glitch of the usual social urges, from the telic perspective of evolution.

[luxe-pauvre]

Taking a walk in the countryside, like listening to a favourite song or meeting friends for an evening of conversation, is thus a good example of what the philosopher Kieran Setiya calls an “atelic activity,” meaning that its value isn’t derived from its telos, or ultimate aim. You shouldn’t be aiming to get a walk “done”; nor are you likely to reach a point in life when you’ve accomplished all the walking you were aiming to do. “You can stop doing these things, and you eventually will, but you cannot complete them,” Setiya explains. They have “no outcome whose achievement exhausts them and therefore brings them to an end.” And so the only reason to do them is for themselves alone: “There is no more to going for a walk than what you are doing right now.” As Setiya recalls in his book Midlife, he was heading toward the age of forty when he first began to feel a creeping sense of emptiness, which he would later come to understand as the result of living a project-driven life, crammed not with atelic activities but telic ones, the primary purpose of which was to have them done, and to have achieved certain outcomes. He published papers in philosophy journals in order to speed his path to academic tenure; he sought tenure in order to achieve a solid professional reputation and financial security; he taught students in order to achieve those goals, and also in order to help them attain degrees and launch their own careers. In other words, he was suffering from the very problem we’ve been exploring: when your relationship with time is almost entirely instrumental, the present moment starts to lose its meaning. And it makes sense that this feeling might strike in the form of a midlife crisis, because midlife is when many of us first become consciously aware that mortality is approaching — and mortality makes it impossible to ignore the absurdity of living solely for the future. Where’s the logic in constantly postponing fulfilment until some later point in time when soon enough you won’t have any “later” left?

Oliver Burkeman, Four Thousand Weeks

[ranahan]

What I would have done differently

Nobody asked, but I was thinking about this the other day so you get it anyway. I think I’ve mentioned previously that I’ve reused parts of an old conlang project that happened to have basically identical design goals for my version of Mando’a. So I got to thinking, what were the bits that didn’t make the jump to Mando’a? Or in other words: what did I do so differently it wasn’t compatible with canon?

To be clear, these are just idle musings about conlanging, not a serious proposal to make changes to Mando’a.

More elaborate pronoun system

My conlang had a more elaborate pronoun system inspired by Sámi and Polynesian languages.

Singular, dual (for battle buddies), and plural number

Obviate, distal, and further distal pronouns (like English this, that, yonder)

I don’t know if mandos make heavy enough use of the battle buddy system to justify the dual number, so no hard feelings about that. But I am a little disappointed about tossing the obviate/distal/further distal distinction—that would seem like a really handy feature for discussing e.g. terrain or strategy, or a handy way to distinguish between multiple people that isn’t gender. Imagine if English she/he/they (sg.), but she referred to somebody standing close by, he referred so somebody a little further away, and they referred to somebody who isn’t present. My conlang actually had this distinction in basically all persons, but that’s another story because some of the combinations are not intuitive.

Also considering how much time mandos devote to squabbling about who is or isn’t a proper Mandalorian, you’d think Traviss would have given them an inclusive/exclusive “we” distinction like Polynesian languages, lol. But maybe it’s better that they don’t have it.

Absolute direction

Cardinal directions (north/south/west/east) instead of left/right. Some aboriginal Australian languages have this feature and it’s extremely cool. But while it made sense for a language spoken by outdoorsy people on Earth, I’m less sure about using it for spacefaring Mandalorians, since there are no cardinal directions in space.

I did however, retcon it in a bit. Mando’a has two sets of left/right words: staabi/payt and kad/kal. So if you use kad/kal for armour pieces, presumably you would also use it for hands (since that’s where it comes from: sword arm and blade arm, since apparently mandos don’t do shields lol) and other parts of a person. So what would you use staabi/payt for then? I thought that could be starboard/port, which is basically absolute direction on shipboard. It could even be extended for buildings etc (absolute orientation relative to the main entrance—or just use cardinal directions). So basically a person has a swordarm and a sidearm side that are relative to them, but they’re going to take a bow/stern/staabi/payt turn inside a ship, and that’s always going to be the ship’s bow/stern/starboard/port of the ship, not theirs.

tldr: I found it a little odd that there are two left and right words in Mando’a, but I think that could be explained by mandos being a nomadic culture and using starboard/port more often and for more things than e.g. English does. Also fun opportunities for “lost in translation” moments, lol.

Aspects

My language had essentially a four-way verbal conjugation, where each verb was marked for stative or progressive and atelic or telic aspect (and you might already guess, but adjectives were actually just one conjugation of verbs). Time was marked by adverbs.

Progressive vs. static aspect—compare “I’m dressing up” vs. “I’m dressed”/“I’m wearing (it)”.

Completive/telic aspect—marking task completion, compare “I shot at the bear (but the bear may still live)” vs. “I shot the bear dead”.

I don’t think having a few conjugations would add that much complexity to the grammar. Kind of the contrary, actually: you need some way to express these things anyway, so I find encoding them in the verb phrase to be a rather simple solution. The progressive/static aspect can also shoulder some lexical load, allowing you to make double use of some verbs (like dress/wear being expressed by the same verb).

I wouldn’t do aspects exactly the same way in Mando’a as I did them in my old conlang. But I would perhaps add a preverbal or sentence final completive particle (like in some creole languages) and some easy and common way to talk about non-punctual aspect (probably a locative expression).