#the exile Fate

[bright-red-sunsets]

i feel more and more like i was made for you

[sesamenom]

@general-illyrin @tar-thelien @who-needs-words I think you all mentioned being interested in the reverse gondolin au - is anyone interested in helping with wrangling the timelines, especially the second age stuff? Here's the current outline:

(Edit: anyone feel free to help out if you're interested!)

YT 14365 - Birth of Lomion

YT 14373/FA 1 - Death of Argon

FA

2 - Aredhel adopts Lomion

300 - Birth of Idril

316 - Turgon & Idril kidnapped by Eol

400 - Turgon & Idril rescued. Death of Eol

465 - Finrod more-peacefully passes throne to orodreth while on Quest. Everyone except beren still dies

472 - Nirnaeth. Turgon named High King of the Noldor.

476 - Turgon abdicates official title. Aredhel named High King of the Noldor.

496 - Tuor comes to Gondolin

502 - Wedding of Idril and Tuor

503 - Births of Earendil and Elwing. Idril begins to have foresight dreams about the Fall.

506 - Second Kinslaying. C^3 dead, celebrimbor stays in gondolin. Aredhel denounces the oath/kinslaying and disowns C^3

Elwing survives & is found by Oropher & Thranduil // Galadriel & Celeborn. oropher, thranduil, oropher's wife, and thranduil's then-gf // galadriel & celeborn take Elwing to Gondolin as refugees. The Silmaril is left hidden in the woods of melian's domain.

507 - Elwing comes to Gondolin.

509 - Idril captured by Morgoth. Idril reveals the location of Gondolin in exchange for an Oath to not harm her family (Turgon, Tuor, and Earendil). Idril rescued.

510 - Gondolin prepares for war with Morgoth.

513-522 - Siege of Gondolin. Deaths of Duilin and Rog. Gothmog slain by Aredhel the Huntress. First use of the Three Rings by Lomion and Celebrimbor in defense of Gondolin. House of the Hammer of Wrath destroyed.

523 - Maedhros believes a Silmaril is with Elwing at Gondolin.

525 - Earendil weds Elwing. Lomion weds ???. Adoption of Gil-Galad

532 - Births of Elrond and Elros.

538 - Third Kinslaying at Gondolin. Death of Amras. Elrond and Elros kidnapped by Maglor. Deaths of Elwing and Turgon. Second use of the Three Rings by Lomion and Celebrimbor. Deaths of Maedhros and Aredhel. Lomion named King of Gondolin and High King of the Noldor. Deaths of Salgant, Penlod, and Tuor. Earendil named Lord of the House of the Wing.

540-549 - War declared between Gondolin and the Feanorians of Himring over the Third Kinslaying and kidnapping of Princes Elrond and Elros.

549 - Elrond and Elros recovered. Feanorians and Gondolin severely weakened. Celebrimbor // Gil-Galad declared heir to the High Kingship.

552-554 - Second Siege & Fall of Gondolin. Third use of the Three Rings by Lomion and Celebrimbor. Deaths of Ecthelion, Glorfindel, Egalmoth, and Turgon. Idril and Celebrimbor lead survivors through the Secret Way.

555 - Gondolithlim refugees arrive at Sirion.

556 - Idril departs for Valinor.

558 - Earendil searches for Valinor.

560 - Havens of Sirion destroyed by Morgoth. Gondolithlim/Doriathrim survivors scattered. Elrond and Elros rescued (as adults) by Maglor.

572 - Morgoth controls Beleriand. Earendil and reembodied Elwing come to Valinor and rally the Host.

575-617 - War of Wrath

618 - Maglor claims the Silmaril from Eonwe's camp and casts himself into the Sea. Death of Maglor.

620 - End of the First Age.

SA

1 - Founding of the Grey Havens and Lindon under High King Lomion

2 - Elros becomes the first King of Numenor

c. 500 - Sauron returns to Middle-Earth in the East.

650 - Eregion is founded

1000 - Galadriel is given Vilya; Lomion wields Nenya

1170 - Annatar comes to Lindon and Lomion turns him away. Lomion warns Celebrimbor of Eregion of his suspicions.

1200 - Annatar comes to Eregion. Celebrimbor takes him in to monitor.

1250 - Celebrimbor creates the Seven; Lomion creates the Nine.

1410 - Annatar is kicked out of Eregion.

1600 - The One Ring is forged. Sauron remains in hiding.

1610 - Sauron begins to gather and prepare armies in the East.

1673 - War of the Elves and Sauron begins.

1675 - Sauron invades Eriador.

1677 - Fall of Ost-in-Edhil. Celebrimbor and Lomion remain at the House of the Mirdain. Death of Celebrimbor in battle // Fourth use of the Three in battle. Sauron does not learn of the Seven. Founding of Imladris.

1678 - Sauron defeated by the Numenoreans and the Elves of Lindon.

1679 - Sauron flees to Mordor. First White Council held.

3147 - Civil war in Numenor.

3225 - Ar-Pharazon seizes the Sceptre.

3228 - Elrond claims the Sceptre. Ar-Pharazon disowned. Tar-Miriel named Ruling Queen.

3232 - Sauron taken to Numenor as a prisoner.

3274 - Elrond kicks Sauron out of Numenor and outlaws the morgoth cult.

3310 - Morgoth cult publicly reappears.

3319 - Downfall of Numenor. Tar-Miriel leads a greater force of the Faithful away.

(green // blue means two main options, red means i need to think about it more)

The main details I'm figuring out right now are

does Celebrimbor still die at Eregion - I don't think he's getting captured/tortured, but he could still die in the battle. On the other hand, he could probably survive by using Narya & Lomion using Nenya, but that would definitely have repercussions further down the line

how does Idril's deal work - I'm currently thinking of Idril exchanging the location of Gondolin for her family's guaranteed safety, because it seems in character for Reverse Idril? But on the other hand, even if I limit it to immediate family at the time of the oath (tuor, turgon, earendil) then idk where turgon dies? Maybe Maglor can kill him but that seems kind of random

where and how does Turgon die

how does Prince Elrond's character even work

how does Numenor still fall when factoring in Prince Elrond - I'm thinking that the morgoth death cult gained enough traction during the time sauron was there that even after Elrond kicks him out, the cult still sticks around and reemerges later? The Fall still happens, but they never go to attack valinor and there's a good deal more Faithful (maybe 40-60%?)

[punkrangerdraws]

Cordelia Blackwater, otherwise known as The Overseer

from @exilethegame

[awkward-sultana]

Magnificent Century + Faceless Sultanas: Hafsa Sultan

[tubbytarchia]

I really want Jimmy to just snap and sucker punch the fuck out of someone making fun of him and then cry

ME TOO PLEASEE. I need him to kill someone and then cry about it and then feel all better afterward

[forcedhesitation]

crazy how he just ignores everyone else and speaks directly to wyll. it's like wyll is like one of the most important characters in this game, or something.

[gennsoup]

A man's destination is not his destiny, Every country is home to one man And exile to another.

T. S. Eliot, To the Indians who Died in Africa

[aweirdofangirl]

In my opinion, in the books, nothing is crueler than what Cassandra Clare has done to Simons generation of shadowhunter academy graduates. Julie DIED so Beatriz lost her parabatai, Marisol is alone in all the ways that matter because Jon got his HEAD CHOPPED OFF, and I will never be over George. Like that's malicious. These were characters that we rooted for, that overcame their own prejudices, and formed a good group of friends, and she just murked them. I know the shadowhunter community was in shambles at the time, but they were the hope for better. They could have been used for anything else.

[raayllum]

am i spending my morning listening to "one of us" from the lion king 2 and thinking about callum, aaravos, and rayla? you bet your ass i am

[dmitriyuriev]

So, about Douman's beheading scene in Abe no Seimei Monogatari...

[avernusfuries]

bg3 general ship tags.

[holyguardian]

@exiled-turk | X

It wasn't the first time Veld had crossed into their new lives on the run.

Though it was a surprise to see him again after all these years. He left them well enough alone, until now. Which meant something had changed.

Ifalna knew that information would come soon enough. So, she treated him as she would any other welcome guest — Glenn had differing opinions on the matter, but Veld was welcome in their home. He could have hindered their peace, could have shattered it, but he hadn't. Instead he sat at her table and offered a warning.

Exhaling a steadying breath, she slowly took a seat across from him at the table.

Their bags were always packed. They were prepared to uproot their lives at a moment's notice, and she was already failing. She should have used her burner phone to place the call to Glenn. He'd recognise the number, even if he didn't pick up, he'd know what it meant and what needed to be done.

But she stalled. Because to summon Glenn, to put their sudden move into motion, meant she would be without answers of her own.

"... your intel only locates two of us? The company isn't aware of Roran?" That was the question that burned her the most. Aerith was already known, but her son had been hidden away from them. As it stood, Shinra still had an outdated photo of Aerith when she was a child. All good signs, but she had to be certain.

Her fingers tapped silently over the tabletop, there was no reason to hide her nerves, not now.

Another moment passed before she reached across, gently holding her hand over one of his. "I know you can't work miracles. I know this is a selfish ask. Is there any way to save this house? To scrub our lives from its walls? Shinra will take Cosmo Canyon from us, but I can't bear the thought of losing another home."

[waterfall-ambience]

do you think captain luna should try sending damien to new zealand

[awkward-sultana]

"Cihangir, my lion son..."

[daughter-of-winterfell]

Alicent and ‘The White Princess’

I really feel that people who are so aggressively against Alicent Hightower’s actions in House of the Dragon should watch The White Princess, as it demonstrates exactly what her sons’ fates would be if Rhaenyra inherited the throne.

The White Princess begins with the marriage of Elizabeth of York to Henry Tudor, and covers the early years of his reign after winning the War of the Roses. Much of the show is about the many Yorkist rebellions Henry faced, as the remaining York loyalists sought to place a York once again on the throne.

One subplot in The White Princess is about Edward Plantagenet, the Earl of Warwick, who had a claim to the throne and was potentially seen at one point as a successor to Richard III. Very soon after Henry takes the throne, Edward - referred to as Teddy - is imprisoned in the Tower. Despite his sister’s constant pleas for his freedom, he remains there for over a decade until he is implicated in a plot to escape and is exceuted.

The main conflict is about Perkin Warbeck, who claims to be Prince Richard, one of the Princes murdered in the tower. In the show, he is confirmed to be Prince Richard - making him a legitimate York heir as the son of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville - and he gains the support of much of Europe, raises an army, and invades England. The plot of The White Princess goes on, and ultimately he is imprisoned alongside Teddy and excecuted as well.

Both Teddy and Perkin Warbeck were seen as threats to Henry Tudor’s reign because they were York heirs with strong claims to the throne. Factions were constantly mobilising in support of their respective claims and fighting the Tudors in their name. And so they were eliminated to secure Henry’s reign.

The politics of Westeros does not directly correlate with the politics of Tudor England, but still, if Rhaenrya inherited the throne, Alicent’s sons would face the same fates as these York heirs - either longterm imprisonment or exceution.

As Aegon and Aemond are both the trueborn sons of the last king, it seems even more likely that they would share the dire fates of Teddy and Perkin.

In the final episode, Elizabeth of York encourages Henry Tudor to pretend to kill Perkin Warbeck to remove him as a threat to their rule (although, for plot reasons, the real Perkin does also get excecuted). And she says to Henry:

If you applied this to Rhaenyra it would be: The only way I can protect my sons [and my crown] is by telling the world I killed [Aegon and Aemond].*

This is what Alicent is protecting her sons against. This is one of the reasons her anger and fear is completely justified.

*Helaena may be safe, as Viserys didn’t alter the rules of succession for Westeros, so she wouldn’t really pose a threat to Rhaenyra or her children inheriting the throne. Though any sons she had would be in danger... 

This is all explained far better by @hellsbellschime​ in their post How Alicent Hightower Was Forced Into War; this just illustrates how it likely would play out just as it did for the York claimants in The White Princess.

+ Also, I sympathise with Alicent’s actions because of what Elizabeth of York says in the same scene, about the right to rule:

(And by ‘given’, she means the right to rule being given by God)

Why shouldn’t Alicent work to take the right to rule for her children, when their lives are at stake?

[active-suicide-risk]

I think the algorithm fate might be trying to tell me something