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#the thing with elodie i thought was complicated. i wish we knew some more about her or that shed been mentioned a little earlier
dayurno ยท 18 days
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#i will warn you only once: tsc spoilers#literally just finished it as i am drafting this its 5am where i live#so you may be subjected to some nonsense#that all being said i have thoughts.and feelings#the kevin was lovely and tasted delicious! jean defending him at every turn even when he swears to hell and back he'll kick his ass#the kevjean was surprising i was only half expecting that#the dog metaphors i have to say i need this one cashed in. nora run me my check#im joking of course dont quote me on it#jean taking kevins promise to the end and living on it is seriously so. well.#'be careful with him' 'take kevin's name out of your ignorant mouth' 'you promised me'#also kevin getting called the court's queen had me tender and on my back oml#jean's relationship with the trojans is sweet and he is very interesting and complicated#a character with many moving parts im sure#there were a few things i did not care for#namely jeremy and the trojans felt remarkably flat to me bar lucas (by far the most interesting) and catalina on occasion#i didnt quite enjoy jeremy's pov and felt like he spent perhaps way too much time worrying over jean? if that makes sense#i wish he had some more complexity to him or really anything to catch a hook on#all we know is hes attractive and smiley and gets along terribly with his family#so much of his character is sucked out by jean he didnt feel like much more than a plot device to me#which i wouldnt mind if jeremy wasnt the literal main character alongside jean#i was living for everything jean thought but had to drag myself through jeremy's pov if im honest#uuuuh what else. neil! funny. deranged. i have to love him#andrew couldnt give less of a fuck about jean which is funny as all fuck#two bugs placed in the same habitat ignoring each other#the thing with elodie i thought was complicated. i wish we knew some more about her or that shed been mentioned a little earlier#but im assuming thats a topic to be revisited#uuuuuuuh yeah so thats most of it. i think my first thought and the one that sticked out the most to me is that the book felt remarkably#pedestrian#not necessarily in a bad way#it lacked to me one of the main appeals of aftg which were the numerous interesting side characters
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goldenpctals ยท 3 years
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PARENT INTERVIEW
this is the interview of: gwan elodie. (ooc: ilovehersm sheโ€™s my baby)
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๐Ÿท๐Ÿถ ๐š€๐š„๐™ด๐š‚๐šƒ๐™ธ๐™พ๐™ฝ๐š‚ ๐™ฝ๐™พ๐šƒ ๐™ป๐™ธ๐™ฝ๐™บ๐™ด๐™ณ ๐šƒ๐™พ ๐šˆ๐™พ๐š„๐š ๐™บ๐™ธ๐™ณ(๐š‚).
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐œ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ž๐ซ ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ?ย โ€œiโ€™m an actress, mainly known for k-dramas.โ€
๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ž๐ง๐ฃ๐จ๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ข๐ญ?ย โ€œyes, i genuinely love my career.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐œ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฏ๐ž?ย โ€œseoul, south-korea.โ€
๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฆ๐š๐ซ๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐?ย โ€œno, iโ€™m divorced.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐š๐ฒ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐š๐ฆ๐ž ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐๐ž๐ฌ?ย โ€œmy loyalty. not just to my career, but to my loved ones too.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐›๐ข๐ ๐ ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ ๐œ๐ก๐š๐ง๐ ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎโ€™๐ฏ๐ž ๐ž๐ฑ๐ฉ๐ž๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐ง๐œ๐ž๐?ย โ€œafter graduating, i feel like a lot has changed for the better.โ€
๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎโ€™๐ซ๐ž ๐จ๐ฅ๐๐ž๐ซ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ก๐š๐ ๐š ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐œ๐œ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ ๐œ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ž๐ซ, ๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐›๐ข๐ ๐ ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ ๐จ๐š๐ฅ ๐ข๐ง ๐ฅ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ž?ย โ€œthat my daughter is healthy and looked after.โ€
๐ฐ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐๐ž๐ซ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฌ๐ž๐ฅ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ฆ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ?ย โ€œi think so?โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐ข๐ ๐š๐Ÿ๐ญ๐ž๐ซ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ ๐ซ๐š๐๐ฎ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง?ย โ€œi stayed with my parents for the first few months while i got ready to permanently move to south korea.โ€
๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐š๐ง๐ฒ ๐ซ๐ž๐ ๐ซ๐ž๐ญ๐ฌ ๐š๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐ž ๐ข๐ง ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐๐ž๐ฌ?ย โ€œno, iโ€™ve learned that everything happens for a reason.โ€
๐š€๐š„๐™ด๐š‚๐šƒ๐™ธ๐™พ๐™ฝ๐š‚ ๐™ฐ๐™ฑ๐™พ๐š„๐šƒ ๐™ฟ๐™ฐ๐š๐™ด๐™ฝ๐šƒ๐™ท๐™พ๐™พ๐™ณ.
๐ฐ๐ก๐จ ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐ž๐ง? ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฆ ๐ข๐ง ๐š๐ ๐ž ๐จ๐ซ๐๐ž๐ซ.ย โ€œi only have one daughter, young mi.โ€
๐ข๐Ÿ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ ๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐›๐ข๐ซ๐ญ๐ก, ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ž๐š๐ฌ๐ข๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ ๐ง๐š๐ง๐œ๐ฒ? ๐ข๐Ÿ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐ข๐๐งโ€™๐ญ, ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ ๐ง๐š๐ง๐œ๐ฒ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐Ÿ๐ž๐ž๐ฅ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐š๐ง๐ฑ๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐š๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ.ย โ€œunfortunately, my pregnancy with my daughter wasnโ€™t easy. there were complications during my second and third trimester. but lucky enough, she turned out to be perfectly healthy.โ€
๐๐ข๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐š๐ง๐ฒ ๐›๐š๐›๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ก๐จ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ ๐ž๐ง๐๐ž๐ซ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐š๐ฅ๐ฌ? ๐ข๐Ÿ ๐ฒ๐ž๐ฌ, ๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐จ?ย โ€œme and my former husband went to violet springs and we held our baby shower/gender reveal with my family in the uk.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ค๐ข๐ง๐ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐ž๐ง ๐๐ž๐ฌ๐œ๐ซ๐ข๐›๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐š๐ฌ, ๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค?ย โ€œiโ€™d like to think that she says that iโ€™m a good mom.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐ฌ๐ญ๐š๐ ๐ž ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ก๐š๐ซ๐๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ: ๐›๐š๐›๐ฒ, ๐ญ๐จ๐๐๐ฅ๐ž๐ซ, ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐, ๐ญ๐ž๐ž๐ง๐š๐ ๐ž๐ซ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐  ๐š๐๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ?ย โ€œbaby.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐ž๐ง ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ฏ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ž ๐ฆ๐ž๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ž๐š๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐?ย โ€œthe way she laughed whenever i tried to get something for even cheaper on local markets on our family holidays.โ€
๐›๐ž ๐ก๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ, ๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎโ€™๐ฏ๐ž ๐ก๐š๐ ๐š๐ง๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฌ ๐š๐ฌ ๐š ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ?ย โ€œyes. especially during the first few months after my pregnancy.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐จ ๐ฐ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐š๐ฌ ๐š ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ?ย โ€œthat i trust my daughter enough to let her explore life on her own now thatโ€™s she an adult. i do get protective at times, but she never has done anything to break that trust.โ€
๐ก๐จ๐ฐ ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐œ๐ก ๐ข๐ง๐ฏ๐จ๐ฅ๐ฏ๐ž๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐จ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ข๐ง ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐โ€™๐ฌ ๐ฅ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ž?ย โ€œa lot. young mi goes to st judes and lives my parents.โ€
๐š๐ฌ ๐š ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ, ๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฆ๐ž๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎโ€™๐ซ๐ž ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ž๐š๐ซ๐ง๐ข๐ง๐ ?ย โ€œi think like many parents, there are so many things that weโ€™re still learning about.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ง๐ง๐ข๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฆ๐ž๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฌ๐จ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ซ?ย โ€œyoung mi is so curious about life and adventurous. there was a moment where we went on a vacation with just the two of us after my divorce and she was so talkactive with the tour guide. the tour guide came up to me and asked if she was really 4 years old and not some 50 year old soul trapped in a childโ€™s body.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ง ๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐Ÿ๐ž๐ž๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ง๐ž๐ž๐๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ?ย โ€œduring her trainee days.โ€
๐™น๐š„๐š‚๐šƒ ๐™ต๐™พ๐š ๐™ต๐š„๐™ฝ, ๐š†๐™ท๐™ธ๐™ฒ๐™ท ๐™ฒ๐™ท๐™ธ๐™ป๐™ณโ€ฆ if you have just one child, you can just say if theyโ€™d do the stuff or not.
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ž๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐›๐ฅ๐ž?ย โ€œyoung mi can be very sensible. she even taught me how to be more sensible.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ž๐ฉ๐ž๐ง๐๐ž๐ง๐ญ?ย โ€œthere are moments where i think she doesnโ€™t need anyone because she grew up so fast, itโ€™s insane.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐š๐ฅ๐ฐ๐š๐ฒ๐ฌ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ข๐œ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐š๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐›๐ž๐ข๐ง๐  ๐Ÿ๐š๐ฆ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ž ๐๐š๐ฒ?ย โ€œyoung mi knew from a pretty early age that she wanted to be a k-pop idol like her father, so i always hoped that sheโ€™d be able to realise and achieve her dreams.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ก๐š๐ซ๐๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ค ๐š๐ฌ ๐š ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐?ย โ€œshe was an easy child.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐œ๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐/๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ž๐ ๐จ๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ? โ€œthe only period where i was stressed was when she moved to the united kingdom. the thought of not being there within a second was not very pleasant.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ญ๐ข๐๐ข๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ซ๐จ๐จ๐ฆ? โ€œshe says she has, but she can be a bit messy.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ž๐ฌ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ? โ€œi only have one, haha.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ž๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ญ๐จ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ž๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐›๐ข๐ซ๐ญ๐ก๐๐š๐ฒ? โ€œyoung mi reminds her family and friends daily once the 1 week countdown has started.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ข๐ฌ/๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐š๐œ๐š๐๐ž๐ฆ๐ข๐œ? โ€œshe is a good student, i donโ€™t think she fails a lot.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ข๐ฌ/๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ฅ๐ž๐ญ๐ข๐œ? โ€œshe trained so much over the last few years, she doesnโ€™t have the motivation from my side.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐›๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐š๐ง๐ง๐จ๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ? โ€œthis isnโ€™t annoying, but whenever i try to be strict, she knows her ways to get herself out of trouble and it works.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐š๐ฌ๐ค๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ? โ€œshe rarely does.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ž๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฏ๐ž ๐ข๐ง ๐›๐š๐œ๐ค ๐ก๐จ๐ฆ๐ž? โ€œi think, once she has graduated, that young mi would move back in. she knows sheโ€™s always welcome.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ก๐ž๐ฅ๐ฉ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ? โ€œonce it was just the two of us and she was old enough to help me with the little chores in house, she would help.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ž๐ง๐ฃ๐จ๐ฒ๐ž๐ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ ๐ซ๐จ๐ฐ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฎ๐ฉ? โ€œshe loved disney, especially the little mermaid.โ€
๐™ฑ๐™ด๐™ธ๐™ฝ๐™ถ ๐™ฐ๐™ฝ ๐™ฐ๐™ฒ๐™ฐ๐™ณ๐™ด๐™ผ๐šˆ ๐™ฟ๐™ฐ๐š๐™ด๐™ฝ๐šƒ.ย 
๐๐ข๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐š ๐ฌ๐š๐ฒ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐š๐œ๐š๐๐ž๐ฆ๐ฒ(๐ฌ) ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐(๐ซ๐ž๐ง) ๐ฉ๐ข๐œ๐ค๐ž๐?ย โ€œwe definitely discussed her options but in the end, it should be her decision since itโ€™s about her career.โ€
๐ก๐จ๐ฐ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐Ÿ๐ž๐ž๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ง ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ž๐œ๐ข๐๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐š๐ง๐ญ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ ๐จ ๐ญ๐จ ๐š๐ง ๐š๐œ๐š๐๐ž๐ฆ๐ฒ? โ€œof course i was proud of her and itโ€™s nice that she chose a familiar place, but the fact she isnโ€™t closeby can be hard at times.โ€
๐๐จ ๐š๐ง๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐ž๐ง ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐š๐ฆ๐ž ๐š๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐ข๐? ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ฅ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ, ๐ž๐ช๐ฎ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ž ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐œ๐œ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ง ๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ๐ž? โ€œno! she studies music, like her father did. i definitely think she is more succesful than me. i think my career really started after true beauty.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ง ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐(๐ซ๐ž๐ง) ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ ๐ž๐ซ, ๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐“๐‡๐ˆ๐๐Š ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒโ€™๐ ๐ž๐ง๐ ๐ฎ๐ฉ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ค๐ข๐ง๐  ๐š๐ฌ? โ€œlike i said, young mi and i both knew she wanted to be an idol from a young age.โ€
๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฆ๐ž๐ญ ๐š๐ง๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐โ€™๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐ง๐๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐ญ๐ง๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ? โ€œyes, i have.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐›๐ข๐ ๐ ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐š๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐ž๐ง ๐›๐ž๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ข๐ง ๐š๐ง ๐š๐œ๐š๐๐ž๐ฆ๐ฒ? โ€œonce her name gets more out there, there are going to be a lot mixed emotions. i just hope that she doesnโ€™t let comments get to her.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐จ๐ง๐ž ๐ฉ๐ข๐ž๐œ๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐š๐๐ฏ๐ข๐œ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎโ€™๐ ๐ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐š๐ซ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฃ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก๐ž๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ก๐š๐? โ€œonce she enrolled, i told her that itโ€™s going to be a journey of a lifetime and that itโ€™s an unpredictable road. but that no matter what, she should always follow her heart and that no matter what, sheโ€™s going to be okay.โ€
๐™ผ๐™ด๐™ผ๐™พ๐š๐šˆ ๐™ป๐™ฐ๐™ฝ๐™ด.
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐ฏ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ ๐ซ๐š๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ž๐ฌ/๐Ÿ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐จ๐ง ๐ซ๐ž๐ฉ๐ž๐š๐ญ ๐š๐ฌ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐ž๐ง ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ ๐ซ๐จ๐ฐ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฎ๐ฉ?ย โ€œthe little mermaid. i think iโ€™ve watched that one like, twice a week.โ€
๐ก๐š๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐/๐ก๐š๐ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฆ๐ž๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ก๐š๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐š๐๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฉ๐š๐ง๐ข๐œ? โ€œyes. itโ€™s a long story.โ€
๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฐ๐š๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ก๐จ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐š๐ฒ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐จ๐ง ๐š๐ฌ ๐š ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ๐ฅ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ? โ€œit was thailand with my former husband and once it was just the two of us, we went to india.โ€
๐œ๐š๐ง ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฆ๐ž๐ฆ๐›๐ž๐ซ ๐š ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎโ€™๐ฏ๐ž ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐›๐ž๐ž๐ง ๐œ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ž๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐œ๐ข๐ฉ๐š๐ฅ๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ข๐œ๐ž? โ€œthere has never been a moment.โ€
๐ฌ๐š๐ฒ ๐จ๐ง๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐š๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒโ€™๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ, ๐›๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐งโ€™๐ญ ๐ž๐ฑ๐ฉ๐ž๐œ๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐š๐ฒ: โ€œyouโ€™re two years younger than i was when i first started in st judeโ€™s but youโ€™re definitely more smarter, wiser and independant than i was and i wish i couldโ€™ve been like that.โ€
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Let me start by apologizing for the ridiculous lengths I took this anonymous thing to but I wouldnโ€™t have been able to send this to you otherwise. My shyness isโ€ฆ bad. But I also thought a submission might be better - less copying and pasting for you and you can do all sorts of editing.
So, I was wondering if Marvelโ€™s Elektra and Orestez Natchios have come up here before? A cursory search says they havenโ€™t, only Greek mythologyโ€™s Electra and Orestes. (The different spellings are correct as far as I know.) Elektra has featured in many Marvel comic books and has two live-action portrayals I know of - by Jennifer Garner in the early 2000s movies โ€œDaredevilโ€ and โ€œElektraโ€ and by Elodie Yung in the Netflix Marvel shows โ€œDaredevilโ€ and โ€œThe Defendersโ€. I should say that I havenโ€™t read any comic books myself. The 2005 โ€œElektraโ€ turned me onto the character, Iโ€™ve watched both the movie and the show โ€œDaredevilโ€, but not โ€œThe Defendersโ€. So the things I can reference are limited but Iโ€™ve also done some research with the help of Wikipedia, the Marvel wikia, comic book panels Iโ€™ve collected etc, so Iโ€™ll make it work.
Thereโ€™s nothing canon about Elektra and Orestez, as far as I know, and what amounts to little interaction most likely. But thatโ€™s never stopped most of us before, has it?
So, Elektra and Orestezโ€™s parents were a Greek diplomat, Hugo Kostas Natchios, and his wife, Christina. According to Wikipedia, there are two contradictory accounts of the Natchiosโ€™ family history. In both, however, Christina Natchios is assassinated while pregnant with Elektra, to whom she gives premature birth just before she dies. In what I imagine to be the prevalent account, in the โ€œElektra: Root of Evilโ€ series, Christina is a very promiscuous wife who sleeps with a lot of men and brings shame to her husband, and her son Orestez resents her for it, so he hires assassins to kill her and the baby he doesnโ€™t think could possibly be his fatherโ€™s. However, his father is also injured in the attempt and they also eventually learn Elektra was Hugoโ€™s biological daughter, so Orestezโ€™s biological sister, as well. In light of all that, Orestez feels such shame that he exiles himself.
Nine years later, Orestez saves a young Elektra from sexual, I assume, assault by a group of men and returns her to their father, advising him to teach Elektra how to protect herself. The next day, Hugo brings a sensei to teach Elektra.
Some helpful links that are basically where I got the above from:
Elektra Natchios (Wikipedia)
Hugo Natchios (Wikipedia)
Elektra Natchios (Marvel wikia)
Orestez Natchios (Marvel wikia)
Orestez Natchios (some vague Marvel sort of wiki)
OK, so the Orestez in the Marvel wikia entry is not who I had in mindโ€ฆ Heโ€™s a novelist? And looks middle-aged? Obviously, given their family history, Orestez is a lot older than Elektra, but middle-aged novelist is not what Iโ€™m here for. The picture they have of him looks like it might be from the relatively recent โ€œThunderboltsโ€ series, so I can just ignore it. The Orestez in that vague Marvel sort of wiki entry, who is a martial artist, is the one I knew from my first research into Elektra.
I know Iโ€™ve just dropped a bunch of comic book facts on you without ever really talking about the relationship I see between Elektra and Orestez, but I donโ€™t have a lot to say, if Iโ€™m been honest. I just really love Elektra and I loved that she had a brother like Orestez (the only version that counts), a master martial artist much like her, and he reappeared briefly in her life just to save her and is essentially whoโ€™s responsible for her training in martial arts, and of course thereโ€™s the complicated family history, what Orestez did to their mother and attempted to do to Elektra herself, even though he wouldnโ€™t have done it if heโ€™d known Elektra was his biological sisterโ€ฆ I just wish there was so much more of him in all the stories that have been told about her. They have so much potential. And of course, he didnโ€™t feature much in the comic books, so there was no hope really for him in any live-action adaptations. In the 2003 โ€œDaredevilโ€, we only see Elektraโ€™s father and thereโ€™s no mention of other family members. Then in the 2005 โ€œElektraโ€, thereโ€™s one mention of Elektraโ€™s parents thatโ€™s not even really that. Love interest comments on her name, โ€œElektra. Like the tragedy. Your parents must have had a sense of humor.โ€ To which she responds, โ€œNot really.โ€ Like, what an opening. But unsurprisingly, we got zilch. (Iโ€™ll be frank and say that it wouldnโ€™t have made sense for her to say anything further, but Iโ€™m still bitter.) Then in Netflixโ€™s โ€œDaredevilโ€โ€ฆ sheโ€™s adopted unless thatโ€™s changed in โ€œThe Defendersโ€? Itโ€™s not even worth touching.
So, this was it. Long and boring and a good reason to consider asking for payment for all these therapy sessions, where we vent and you treat us so nicely. How are you so nice??? Thanks for everything. *heart emoji times 3* I also have another submission about a totally different thing that Iโ€™ll send to you in a while.
Youโ€™re absolutely right, we have gone on less before. This blog has never been about evidence, itโ€™s just about what we like.ย 
I had no idea that Elektra had a brother in the comics. His is a very intriguing story - assassinating his mother because she is shaming their family and isnโ€™t loyal to their father, but then exiling himself when he learns that her baby was from within the marriage, and then looking after his little sister from a distance. Thereโ€™s a lot of potential there and quite a lot to pick apart about Orestezโ€™s character.ย 
Can you imagine how it must feel for her to know that she has a brother out there who cares for her, but also heโ€™s responsible for their motherโ€™s death?
I had heard of Elektra as a companion of Daredevilโ€™s - I knew about the Jennifer Garner movie and saw gifs of her from Daredevil here on tumblr but Defenders is the only thing Iโ€™ve really seen her in. Itโ€™s a shame these screen adaptions didnโ€™t explore her family more, especially with a wild backstory like that, but as you said, itโ€™s unsurprising.ย 
Iโ€™m glad you wrote so much and shared your thoughts and feelings about these two with us.ย 
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