#thinky-thoughts

[gaypirateslife4me]

Dread pirate, scourge of the sea (and queer icon)

Or

Zero rizz, silly lil subby kittieboy (and queer icon)

[capricorn-0mnikorn]

A few more thoughts from a "Sideways" One Piece fan

(I'm mostly following the series through recap, and review, channels on YouTube. Some of them are covering the very beginning anime and manga. Some of them are covering the most recent stuff. I figure sooner or later, they'll meet in the middle. I'll try to be vague, if I can't be spoiler-free)

I don't like the explanation we have now, in canon, for why devil fruit users can't swim in the ocean. And I hope there's a twist that gives us a different reason.

I think the two calm belts will turn out to be engineered, rather than wholly natural phenomena.

Did you know that in Norse mythology (as recorded in sagas written by Christians) that the jötnar (often translated as "giants")* were depicted as adversaries of the main gods? That makes me go: "Hhm." 🤔

*serious scholars point out that's not quite right. But Oda can use any idea he wants as inspiration.

[kariachi]

Okay, so, topic of the day is Tetramand engagement customs, as presented to us through Princess Looma and her multiple engagements (this poor girl). We’ll be touching on the length of engagements, the custom of an engagement challenge, the opening of a lady to challenges right up until her marriage is made official, and the custom of presenting gifts to one’s in-laws.

That last one we’re hitting first so I can just straight up say, I am disregarding the majority of that fucking rhyme. It’s shoddy worldbuilding, and while that’s fine within the show because all it’s worldbuilding is shoddy, I am a grown adult who does not have to perpetuate that shit. So, this alien species does not somehow have a traditional rhyme that just so happens to closely mimic one utilized in the language-united countries of a backwoods mudball with only one change to reflect their own culture. No.

But. We can keep the conquering. Because that does make sense with the very competitive, high-combat culture we’re given with the Tetramand, that something like that would come into being. Presumably this a form of bride price, or a method of proving to one’s in-laws that their child will be well cared for. Since it seems to be done early on in the process as well, it could also serve as a way of attracting more, possibly better, suitors by showing what a man’s family stands to gain access to.

(Side Thought: There’s no indication that anything like this went down in regards to Looma and Kevin’s engagement, implying that he if nothing else presented himself as an orphan. There’s also the fact there’s no indication that Ben received an engagement gift from Looma’s father, which brings up the question of if that was potentially tied to Kevin’s orphan status. Of course there’s also the fact the gift was tied to an interest he and Kevin (and Looma) share, and that despite what could easily have led to bad blood he’s very affectionate and pleasant with Kevin the next time he sees him after the failed wedding, so the whole thing could just be that he’s specifically fond of this scruffy young alien.)

((Somebody give me an AU fic where Argit and Gar are in constant communication conspiring to make sure Kevin and Looma will work out))

This brings us to the next point on the list, which is these engagement challenges. Now, as we know them on Earth engagement challenges can take many forms, including challenges to the young woman herself, but they tend to be very one-and-done. You win, you get the woman, that’s it. But this is very clearly not the case for Tetramand, at least not those in Looma’s kingdom. One can be challenged at any point prior to the finalization of the marriage.

Remember, Ben becomes engaged to Looma at her wedding, and this is in no way considered odd. In fact it’s such a known option that Kevin twists things to go that direction to get out of the engagement himself.

This fact, combined with the length of traditional engagements- three years Earth time- leads to one very, very big question.

Why?!? Why is this the case? What, culturally, leads to this?

So, what are our facts? Tetramand women are stronger than the men, and can be up to half-again the size of them. To earn the chance at her hand a Tetramand man is expected to defeat the woman he’s eying in combat. Once he’s managed this, there’s a three year (Earth time, we don’t know how that translates to Khoron time) span wherein other men can come in and win his woman right out from over him.

I think we can safely say right off that these challenges are not intended as tests of strength. A culture where the women are half-again the size of the men and understandably stronger? Is not expecting men to overpower women to get their hand- no man would marry, or at least very few would, and we’ve both got no indication that men having multiple wives is a thing and direct indication that kids outside of wedlock are not considered valid, at least among the upper classes, so these women are getting married somehow. Presumably these fights are supposed to be challenges of skill, strategy, and cunning- three things that would let a man defeat a woman vastly stronger and larger than him.

(It would also add another layer to why Looma keeps beating all these men- she’s presumably Kevin’s age- so, 17 as per canon- and already a military commander, which is an accomplishment even for a royal in a highly militarized culture. Presumably, leaving aside the show being... itself, she’s got skill and strategy to spare if nothing else.)

This doesn’t answer the question though of ‘why do men keep getting chances at a woman once she’s found one’? There’s multiple possible answers, from women being a hot commodity- given the size and strength difference they’re probably the primary warriors, and childbirth is risky for anything, so women being the less common sex wouldn’t be too unreasonable- to some form of religious doctrine to encourage humility, to what I think might be most likely- giving men ample opportunity for upwards mobility.

Hear me out. There is no way in fuck Tetramand are not matriarchal. Again, the women can be half again the size of the men, this is not a patriarchy. Not unless the men have some serious shit going on, and we have no indication of that. Presumably Looma’s father is either acting as regent until she can take over or, if you follow DJW’s claim her mother is still alive just off on campaign, doing the classic ‘queenly’ duty of running things while the fucker actually in charge is off at war.

We see on Earth that marriage is often used, classically, as a way of climbing the social ladder. Depending on what determines social status among Tetramand, it may even form the primary way in which a man climbs the ladder, outside of possibly hoping his mother or sisters can climb the ladder and pull him up with them. And I think we may have some evidence for this in Kevin’s engagement to Looma. It serves as proof of a key detail- a man’s social position has no bearing on whether he can challenge and win the hand of a woman. These two are on completely opposite sides of the social ladder- one a royal heir and the other a foreigner with seemingly nothing to his name but a ship and a friend. This is a direct contrast to most Earth cultures of a similar bent, where a man would be expected to be in the general social range of the woman in question. And it’s not like Looma was desperate at this point, she was like 14 with plenty of time on her hands.

So, running with this theory, you get the long engagement to ensure that one guy doesn’t run in and snatch a young woman, presumably of status, up without anybody else getting a proper shot to prove themselves. If you combine that with potential religious aspects to the whole thing, it could make for an interesting bit of culture. Especially if we ask the question of ‘can you challenge someone twice’.

Since we’re here though, we should probably hit on a major factor to take into account- Looma’s social status. Looma is a princess, meaning two things here- 1) She probably had far more suitors than your average young woman would have. Royals are desirable, that is some social and financial security there. Most people probably only have a few challengers, if that. 2) All the rules? Really really matter for her. While status comes with power, it also comes with a lot of eyes and a lot of judgement along with them, royals and the like are generally expected to hold stronger to tradition than others, to maintain the proper appearance and the proper reputation. This means that while your average woman could probably get away with fudging rules, stretching them, ignoring them even, Looma most likely doesn’t have that luxury. Which is part of why she ends up desperate- she has to have a man who beat her while somebody of, say Gwen’s status, would probably be able to get away with fudging those rules.

And I was going to touch on the end of Rules of Engagement at this point, but it became a vaguely off topic rant so I will instead move it to it’s own post. Instead we will end with a repeat of a comment from my first post on this topic.

It’s definitely traditional for men’s relatives- most likely sisters and female cousins- to guard the venue during the wedding specifically to prevent last-minute challenges. Their guy managed to keep the woman for at least three years (more if you can rechallenge a woman you’ve lost) like fuck they are risking having to start over from scratch.

[realtacuardach]

One difference between the Lord of the Rings books and the Peter Jackson films that I find really interesting is what the hobbits find when they return to the Shire.

In the books, they return from the War, only to see that the war has not left their home untouched. Not only has it not left their home unscathed, battle and conflict is still actively ravaging the Shire. They return, weary and battle-scarred, to find a home actively wounded and in need of rescue and healing. All four launch themselves into defending their home and rousting those harming it, and eventually succeed. But their idyllic home has been damaged, and even once healed, is never quite again the Shire they set out to save.

In contrast, in the Jackson films, they return to a Shire shockingly untouched by the horrors of war. The hobbits of the Shire talk, in the Green Dragon in Fellowship of the Ring, about not getting involved with issues "beyond our borders," and it seems those issues have not invaded their sanctuary. After having been bowed to by kings, dwarves, elves, and men alike at the coronation in Gondor, their only acknowledgment upon returning home is a skeptical head shake from an older hobbit.

One of the most poignant scenes to me in Return of the King (and there are a considerable amount) is the scene where Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin are sitting in the Green Dragon. The pub patrons bustle around them, talking loudly, clapping excitedly, drinking cheerfully, just as they had in the beginning of the story. But the four hobbits sit silently, watching almost curiously at what was once familiar but is now foreign to them. Their home has not changed. But they have.

Which is the deeper hurt? To come to your home to find it irrevocably changed, despite all you did to keep it untouched and the same? Or to return home but no longer feeling at home, because it is only you that is irrevocably changed?

[purpleminte]

Not me getting secondhand anxiety looking at the absolute chaos of this hypothetical discord user’s life based on these messages-

This person is apparently

• Travelling internationally likely very soon

• Currently having homework for an active biology class

• At least somewhat present in the moderation of a server

• Actively involved in competitive sports

• Has an engagement or event currently planned (that is understandably being ignored)

Maybe I’m lazy or something but this is enough to make me curl up and die

[thebibliosphere]

With hindsight, I probably should have realized I was polyamorous/ambiamorous sooner than I did. (And to be clear, I realized it pretty young. I just didn't have the terminology for it.)

Ignoring the fact that five-year-old me used to watch Signing In The Rain! on a loop and was already making up stories about Don, Cosmo, and Kathy all living together in Don's big house and *gasp* holding hands (maybe kissing), I was never any good at shipwars.

Like someone would ask me, "What's your OTP?" and I'd be like, "Well, I guess I like X/Y, but also Y/Z is good too..."

And they'd be like, "No. I mean your one TRUE pairing," and I'd just blink at them like, I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.

I'm sure they thought I was trying to stir shit or being deliberately annoying, but I just... couldn't wrap my head around it. Why did I need to pick one thing? There were multiple options with different things that made them appealing. That's like going to an all-you-can-eat buffet and just drinking water. Which is fine! If water is all you want, great. But you don't get to go to an all-you-can-eat buffet and judge people for eating different foods...

And when I eventually found out multi-shipping was a thing, I was like, "oh neat, that's what I do!" and while there was a definite feeling of having found my people, it was weird having the moral judgment from other people who seemed to think multi-shipping was a symptom of a greater moral character flaw. Like my inability to settle on just one thing meant I was more likely to cheat irl.

This wasn't helped by the fact that I... kinda already didn't care about monogamy? Not the way my friends did. I didn't mind that my then-boyfriend liked Sarah, too. What I minded was that he went behind my back and kissed her when he'd told me I couldn't kiss anyone else.

It was the betrayal of the agreement that hurt. Because we'd agreed. He'd asked me to be exclusive with him, and I did. And then he... didn't. And my friends couldn't grasp that.

It was all, "How could he kiss someone else?!" and my chief complaint was, "Why didn't he tell me first?!"

Anyway, if I could go back in time, I'd tell teenage me, you're not weird and amoral, you're just queer, polyamorous, and have ADHD, lmao.

[justabrowncoatedwench]

Dragon Age NPC Ages in DA: The Veilguard

This assumes that the 9 10 years between Dragon Age Inquisition and Dragon Age: The Veilguard refer to the Trespasser DLC (as in the last time Varric would have seen Solas; confirmed in Dev Q&A on 6/14/24). This places DAV in 9:54. Characters who showed up in a previous game will not be repeated in the lists for later games they also appeared in (i.e., Leliana is under DAO, not DAI).

Read more for length & spoiler reasons. The ages listed are assuming they have not had their birthday in 9:54 yet.

ETA1: I used the ages & evidence summarized by @dalishious in this post, superseding those ages with newer evidence where available or my own interpretation of textual evidence (when given a range I personally favor smack in the middle more often than not).

ETA2: Changed year/ages to reflect the Q&A information that Veilguard is 10 years post-Trespasser, not 9 as originally stated.

Dragon Age: Origins - 9:30 - 24 years prior

Alistair Theirin - 43

Morrigan - 49

Leliana - 50

Zevran Arainai - 48

Oghren Kondrat - 66

Wynne - RIP (would've been 71)

Shale - Eternal

Sten (now Arishok) - 67

Loghain Mac Tir - 75

Anora Mac Tir - 50

Dragon Age: Awakening - 9:31 - 23 years prior

Nathaniel Howe - 53

Anders - 54

Sigrun - 48

Velanna - 48

Dragon Age 2 - 9:30-9:37 - 24-17 years prior

Hawke - 48

Carver/Bethany Hawke - 43

Fenris - ~54

Isabela - 54

Merrill - ~47

Sebastian Vael - 46

Aveline Vallen - ~59

Varric Tethras - 53

Dragon Age Inquisition - 9:41-9:44 - 13-10 years prior

Josephine Montilyet - 41

Cullen Rutherford - 42

Cassandra Pentaghast - 50

Solas - ~2000 (appears mid-40s)

Sera - 33

Vivienne de Fer - 57

Blackwall/Thom Rainier - 58

the Iron Bull - 50

Dorian Pavus - 42

Cole - Ageless (appears 20, or he may have aged into his 30s if he were made more human in DAI)

Kieran - 22

[brightwanderer]

The more I think about hbomberguy's "Plagiarism and You(tube)" video essay the more I'm struck by a couple of his insights in particular regarding why people plagiarise - specifically, the combination of disdain for the people they steal from and entitlement to the things they steal.

Which has arranged itself into my head as: there is a kind of person who sees art - all art, including a witty one-liner or an essay on queer themes - as A Shiny Thing That You Put On Your Shelf So People Can Admire It And Compliment You On Owning it. When they see that Shiny Thing on someone else's shelf, they make a judgement on whether or not the creator deserves to have it. Is the shelf big enough? Fancy enough? Is the Shiny Thing being Properly Displayed?

And if the answer they come up with is "no"... well, then obviously it's fine to take it and Properly Display It. I mean, it's WASTED on that small-time creator who nobody knows about, right?

[amuseoffyre]

I have pondered on this many a time before and came to the conclusion that the whole Find-the-Lady game that happened with the babies was God's misdirection to drop off the Messiah when no one was expecting it, with all eyes on the Antichrist. After all "of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." (Matthew 24:36)

Let me lay out my brain logic:

Johnson is a name that comes from Son of John. John means "God is gracious". God-is-gracious-son. ("What was it he said that got everyone so upset?" "Be kind to one another")

The Christ part of Jesus Christ comes from the Greek word Christos which literally translates to anointed one. Anointing is generally done with oil. Grease is "a thick oily substance". So we have Anointed God-is-Gracious-son.

Jesus was famous for hoarding fishermen who became fishers of men and also for doing fishy miracles. Also Ichthus, a symbol still used in the church today, is a fish. Greasy Johnson won prizes for his fish.

The Antichrist was prophesied to be a rival to Christ - Greasy Johnson and the Johnsonites were rivals to the Antichrist and the Them.

Based on the Nativity stuff, Jesus was born via a human the first time around so it makes sense for the same to happen second time around (unlike Adam, as far as we know - Sister Mary asked and we never got an answer to it and he turned up in a basket)

From what I remember, when Neil and Terry mentioned the potential sequel, it was going to involve America. In the Nativity, Jesus and his family had to go back to the place where his human parents came from. If Greasy Johnson does a DNA test, it will lead him back to America and to Harriet Dowling.

[stagefoureddiediaz]

So these pictures are gonna be an end of episode Eddie reassuring Buck that nothing will ever come between them isn’t it - it’s the I love you to the core scene.

This is the shift in things that we’ve been waiting for and need - because Buck getting jealous is gonna push him into looking at why he’s jealous.

Is it next week yet?!

[half-bakedboy]

I just think that Buck feels like just a little guy with Tommy. He gets to be the little spoon (literally) and the tippy toe kisser (kinda) and he can hide his face in Tommy’s chest when he’s embarrassed and blushy and lean back again his boyfriend with arms around his waist and cleft chin on his shoulder and I just— 🫠🥰 He deserves to be the little guy, you know?

[illmetkismet]

I'm thinking about how in RE4 Ashley is pretty much the same age Leon was in RE2. I'm thinking about the contrast between these two photographs of them we see in the game, where they're both 20/21:

Leon's is taken presumably right after he got out of Raccoon City, traumatised all to hell. Ashley is smiling in her picture, before everything that's happening to her went down.

I'm thinking about Leon, so determined to save her, to be there for her in a way that no one could be there for him, when he was her age. Telling her to keep going even though she's so afraid (he was so afraid too).

He tells Ada he's changed after Raccoon City, but she doesn't think so, and I think she's right. Despite what happened to him, Leon stayed.... Kind. He empathizes with Ashley, understands the fear she feels all too well, because he's been there when he was her age, and by saving her he saves that part of himself that's been slipping away for the past six years.

[Bonus:] I think the photograph of Luis and his Dream Team was taken shortly before the Raccoon City incident too, because it's implied they worked on Nemesis, so that would make him roughly 21 also in this photo:

He helps Leon and Ashley as a way of atoning. Ashley's the same age as he was when he (boy wonder, cocky genius) did this horrible thing, and meeting her gives him the opportunity to redeem a part of his soul that's stuck back there in that picture, young and thoughtless.

So yeah. Three very different photos of three very different people who were irrevocably changed at that same point in their lives. People who came together and each, in their own way, reclaimed something they lost.

[bearotonin-international]

Cocoa and Butter are having a real Thinky Thoughts Thursday that's for sure

[kariachi]

Welcome back to Achi climbing out of bed in the middle of the night to ramble. Tonight’s topic: MasterSinger Merelan.

Now I’ve mentioned before how fucking weird it is that in the Menolly books and beyond it’s treated as this shocking, weird-ass thing that a girl could be a proper student at the Harper Hall. Everyone acts like your only options are to be a fosterling/paying student (aka ‘you aren’t here to learn music you’re here to make connections’), be somebody’s wife, or be a general worker. Everyone acts like this has always been the case, or at least the whole of the case in living memory.

But Merelan. The last two MasterHarpers were directly related to this woman, who was very clearly not only a member of the Harper Hall but also incredibly well respected. Yet both of them act like the very idea of considering that maybe a girl could be taken in as a proper student in any capacity is tantamount to asking the Weyrs not to fly Fall. I could understand them being reluctant to do anything that could even hint at being replacing her, but to act like the idea is entirely unprecedented just- What the fuck dudes?

(And this isn’t even getting into the DLG giving us a lady Harper who ended up marrying the Lord of Ista in the far past. Yadda yadda ‘the DLG isn’t canon’, it’s only as contradictory as the books themselves, and it’s statement that ladies have been allowed in several Halls for a good while and the Harpers just got dramatic about it, presumably to present themselves as progressive, tracks better with the sudden ‘what no ladies can’t be Harpers ladies have never been Harpers don’t you dare look at that portrait behind that curtain’ shit than the proper books do.)

And that brings us to another thing buzzing in my brain right now- Meralan is referred to as just Singer multiple times, but is also given the full title of MasterSinger. This is, such a big fucking deal and I don’t know how other people haven’t seemed to notice, how did I not notice-?

First up, Singer as a title brings up some interesting concepts about the potential inner workings of the Halls. We know Harpers as teacher, composer, musician, singer, but for Singer to exist as its own title means it’s its own distinct subcategory. Which leads to questions, the main ones being 1) is this a distinct ‘ladies can’t be Harpers so we’ll call them this’ situation (in which case why not recommend Menolly for the position), 2) if it’s not, is ‘harper’ the generalized term/title (like how you would call your cardiologist ‘doctor’ even though there’s a specific job title), 3) or is ‘harper’ more a term for generalists (people who teach and compose and sing and play etc) while specialists get the more restricted title (singer, player, teacher, scholar, etc), 4) if any of these are true, then are there similar situations in other Halls (does the Minecraft Hall have Miners, Cartographers, Lapidarists, etc?) and if so what are they?

We don’t learn much to help is those questions, though we do know that Merelan was considered a Master in her own right, that she was a Big Deal, and that she had her own students.

But, more than that, much more than that, she’s titled MasterSinger. One word.

A Harper who’s reached Master rank is a Master Harper. A Smith who’s reached Master rank is a Master Smith. Master Miner. Master Healer.

MasterHarper is the title of the head of the Harper Hall. MasterSmith is the title of the head of the Smitchcraft Hall. MasterMiner heads the Minecraft Hall. MasterHealer heads the Healer Hall.

MasterSinger...

I don’t doubt Anne didn’t give a second thought to what that title says about her worldbuilding, but I’m not Anne and so I can. MasterSinger Merelan having that title, in a singular word, implies that she’s not just a singer, not just a Singer, but in charge of all the other Singers on Pern.

Singer is never treated as it’s own crafthall in the series, not to my knowledge, and that makes sense. The Harper Hall covers everything else music and with it the oral histories of the civilization, so it makes sense that Singers would also be lumped in there. But for there to be a MasterSinger says a whole lot about 1) the status of Singers (namely, that they’re likely equal to Harpers as far as Crafthall politics if nothing else, if this was just a minor position among the hierarchy, or even just ‘we give women this so they can be included’, likely there wouldn’t be a MasterSinger), and 2) that one way or the other they were more-or-less self-governing within the Harper Hall. Again, single word Masters, everywhere else in the series, are treated as more-or-less on par with Lords and Weyrleaders as far as power and status goes. It’s a big deal. Meaning that it’s entirely possible that MasterSinger is supposed to be either second only to the MasterHarper or, more likely I think, on equal footing with the MasterHarper.

The power imbalance in place by Merelan marrying Petiron and him being... Himself, may well have fucked up what was supposed to be functionally a dual position- with the MasterHarper managing composing, teaching, and that whole branch and the MasterSinger being in charge of the actual learning to sing and to play. It would also make sense with just how expansive the Harper Hall’s jurisdiction is, if it was more of a split-but-united deal. It’s the Harper Hall because that’s what it’s been forever, but the Singers are a distinct subset within it with power and import of their own.

 Which then brings up the question of wtf happened to the position of Singer? Because Merelan had students, and a very blatant rank of her own for those students to take. And for her to be MasterSinger she can’t have only just started getting students, that would’ve started when she was just Master Singer.

So we’re left with four questions Merelan’s existence and title drop unceremoniously on us-

What is a Singer in the context of the Harper Hall?

What happened to Merelan’s students, of which there can’t only have been the ones we meet?

What happened to the concept of Singers in general, that is never comes up again chronologically?

What the fuck bug crawled up Robinton and Petiron’s asses that despite there being a position in the Hall that explicitly allowed ladies, one that they’ve both been alive to see, one that would likely have been The Norm when Petiron was a student and teacher given Merelan’s position doesn’t seem to be questioned, both of them pull the ‘well you know the Hall hasn’t taken a female student in half of forever if ever, but maybe I can make something work for you’ game?

And we are never going to get a fucking answer so damnit we better start coming up with some for ourselves because nobody else is gonna touch it.

[realtacuardach]

One of my favorite takes on Frodo, and why I value him so much as a character: unlike so many central characters in fantasy, he was not a Chosen One.

Instead, he was the One who Chose, and that made all the difference.

[isagrimorie]

The more I dig into the Voyager rewatch, and the more I see Janeway is giving in more and more to the Valkyrie she's always inside. The more intriguing Janeway is. I already think she's great but digging deeper into Janeway is amazing.

I keep thinking of how Janeway holds on to the Starfleet regulations and it makes me think of that Doctor Who quote and how she fits the description to a tee:

"Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many."

I feel this is Janeway -- she has rules for a reason, she's not evil but she also knows she can go very, very far.

Janeway has been through a brutal border skirmish in the conflict with the Cardassians. She downplays it but, how Kate Mulgrew, it feels like there was a lot more there.

She ranked up from Lieutenant, not because of being a Science Officer but because she's a decorated vet in a bloody siege, where they won.

As we've seen from Sige of AR-558 and the episode in Strange New Worlds ground combat is a whole different beast from ship-to-ship battle.

(Tom looks like a zombie in the last one btw)

Also, IMO, she's one of the more inventive tacticians in Starfleet-- the way she used the torpedoes in Year of Hell as a mine was amazing!

That's a great naval tactic shit. Hot girl navy.

But also, Janeway fits so much the Doctor Who, Good Man Goes to War rhyme:

Demons run when a good man goes to war. Night will fall and drown the sun, when a good man goes to war. Friendship dies and true love lies, night will fall and the dark will rise, when a good man goes to war.

It's also true of Janeway that when the three people that form the basis of Janeway's mental health died and/or became very sick, Admiral Endgame Janeway happened. And then she destroyed the Borg.

Janeway needs rules for a reason.

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