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just a request for the proshippers - if you make rickorty content can you please use the main tags even if it's not morty prime and rick c-137. if you only tag the versions of them that appear in your work (eg. rick x morticia, evil morty x rick prime) then they don't get filtered by ppl who exclude the general rickorty or rick sanchez/morty smith tags.
(i'm anti censorship. idc what you do but i don't want to see it. it's a genuine trigger.)
#pls reblog w the proship tags#i have them blocked#this isn't a discourse post and i'm not trying to censor anyone#but part of pro shipping is tagging ur work correctly#so please#rick and morty#rick sanchez#rick n morty#r&m#rnm#rick c 137#rick c137#rick#ram#pro ship#proship#anti anti#whatever the tags r
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Public service reminder: I love y'all for your support in what I do here, but (a very gentle but) I want to make it clear that this isn't the way-

Names are censored for obv privacy reasons and I don't want to put any of my own readers on blast because I trust comments like these are made with good intention. I appreciate y'all for loving what I do here and putting it out there for others to read along, but I don't do it for this. As much as Rekindled is indeed a parody redraw of LO that's trying to "fix" a lot of the original comic's issues, at the end of the day it's still just a Tumblr project that I'm doing here for fun and I don't want to see it used as ammunition in the comments sections dedicated specifically to LO (for clarification, this was in the @webtoonofficial announcement post for LO winning its third Eisner).
Whether or not it's "better" than LO is subjective and irrelevant. I obviously can't pretend like I didn't have my own motivations to "fix" what I felt was broken, but the act of "fixing" was for those of us who saw it as broken, not for those who love LO as is.
I also can't reasonably ask anyone to keep their opinions about Rekindled to themselves, it's a piece of work that is publicly available and therefore that will put it under the lens of public opinion, but from me to you, this ain't the way. I host it on Tumblr and DH precisely to keep it out of the main view of the fans/stans, because this work isn't for them, it's for all of you who share my disappointment in the original series. I want to be able to run this space free of any extreme fandom discourse - this is also why you won't see me using general LO tags on Tumblr/IG - but the only way that can happen is if we all play nice and don't let the heat of the discourse get to us. Rest assured, I will always stand by my work and what I do here because I love it and have found my lost joy in what LO used to mean to me through it as well as a community of amazing writers and creators... but prevention is better than the cure and I don't want any of that heat getting thrown back my way through weaponizing of my work with or without my knowing in the first place.
Am I pissed about the comic's third win? Absolutely. And as much as I feel it isn't worth anyone's time or energy to get into bickering matches with the stans in these comment sections, those opinions regarding the comic pre-exist my participation in this fandom and would have, one way or another, hit that boiling point regardless (and it's been wild to watch that comment section go down, I can't lie lmao) But this is not the way. Rekindled is - to me, and hopefully to you, too - a reclaiming of the love and passion people like myself used to have for LO, and a celebration of Greek myth and transformative fiction as a genre, above everything else it stands for or could be interpreted as. It's not a weapon meant to be used in discourse. Let's please do our best to be mindful of that so we can keep having fun in this special little space we've carved for ourselves and not make ourselves into the monsters we're often made out to be just for critically discussing and transforming a piece of media that, in spite of all its flaws, brought us together in the way that it did. Let's keep being the best for each other instead of turning ourselves into the worst over others within this massive fandom who we were never going to agree with in the first place.
Thank you all, much love 💖 Do no harm, take no shit ✊️
#lore rekindled#ask me anything#ama#anon ama#anon ask me anything#lore olympus critical#anti lore olympus#lo critical#lore rekindled comic#lore rekindled ama
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A censored version of Nu: Carnival is coming to the app store... Which is not good
When this was first brought to my attention, I honestly didn't believe it at first. I mean, why would I? Nu: Carnival has advertised itself as an adult-only game since it's release. I rarely go on Twitter since it's a total shithole, but that's how I found out that the rumors were true. Nu: Carnival - Bliss, they're calling it. The overall plot, events, and gameplay will be the same. But many crucial changes will be done to the dialogue, CG, and audio. Long post ahead, but I'll be ranting about it below
Why is this a bad move?
There are multiple reasons as to why making a censored, teen friendly version of Nu: Carnival is a horrible decision. I might not get them all, but here are a few I can think of off the top of my head:
It is literally impossible to separate the nsfw from the source. Whether the devs like it or not, they made an nsfw game. After the first half of the prologue, the game opens with porn. You are introduced to two characters at the time — Aster and Morvay. That right there is already an issue. Morvay is an incubus. He is a sex demon who wears leather lingerie. While there is certainly more to his personality, his is very existence is sex. Sex is what keeps him alive and fed. Morvay is very open about his sexual desires and the topic of sex as a whole. He doesn't find it shameful or taboo. So... What are they going to do with Morvay? He can't be removed since he's bonded with Aster. Censoring him will have him take a MAJOR hit. Now that leads me to the second part of this bullet point: sex is a crucial part of the plot. Essence is what keeps Klein stable. Eiden and his clan's job is to use their essence to fix the gem altars so said altars can keep the essence regulated throughout the continent. While there are several ways to replenish one's essence, the most effective way is through sex. Sex also plays a crucial role in expanding on the plot and the characters. Sex scenes aren't just there for entertainment, there is genuine lore within the dialogue. Through sex, Eiden bonds with his clan members in the most intimate and personal ways. He sees his clan members at their most vulnerable moments, and through that they share a deep connection. You can see when sex scenes go from Eiden and whoever the clan member is having sex just to have it to having sex because they genuinely care for each other and want to physically bond. I could delve deeper into this topic, but I'm sure you all understand by now what I'm trying to say. Sex is not just an accessory or perk. It's part of the worldbuilding
Minors will not be able to escape nsfw within the fandom. Since the game's release, the fan base has been entirely made up of adults. Since we are all adults, we freely talk and post about the nsfw parts of the game. You go on any social media platform where Nu: Carnival is discussed, and you will see nsfw. It's a very casual topic in the fandom, and in a way it's something that bonds us together… As weird as that may sound. My point is, making a censored version of the game is pointless, because the source itself in inherently nsfw and the fan base is full of adults making nsfw content which is usually uncensored since the artists expect for anyone in the fandom to only be adults
Minors in fandoms often bring drama... Hear me out on this one. Not to sound like one of those "grr minors dni I hate minors" people, but kids in fandoms often bring drama and discourse. As aggravating at it is, I have to admit that it isn't entirely their fault. When you're in your early teens, you're starting to discover yourself. You become very opinionated and defensive over your beliefs because you're trying to figure out who you are and where you stand in life. You're trying to gain independence and autonomy. It's normal... But it's very draining. Since Nu: Carnival has an all-adult fandom, there isn't a lot of drama at all. Sure, you're going to have stupid people saying stupid shit to start drama, that happens everywhere, but those people are typically ignored because it isn't too common. With kids coming into the fandom and starting unnecessary drama, it'll be so much harder to avoid. Not only that, but kids don't have as much media literacy as adults do. It's not an insult, but simply a fact. Nu: Carnival delves in a LOT of heavy themes in the game. Some of which are stated outright while others require you to read in between the lines to pick up on them. Since the fandom is all adults, it's easier for us to handle these topics and discuss them maturely
Why are the devs doing this?
My guess? Money. The devs are part of a company after all. At the end of the day, all companies want to make money. By making a game they can put on app stores, the game becomes more visible to a broader audience. People who have never heard of Nu: Carnival before will see what appears to be an innocent anime game when it's far from that. All it will take is a simple google search for people to see the the game is very much nsfw and not something minors should indulge themselves in. It's dangerous for both parties involved, both the minors and the adults
But hey, whatever's bringing in the money, right? Sigh...
#not how i wanted to make my full time return but okay#btw guys hi i just finished my semester#i have like a month off so i'm planning on getting back into things i didn't have time for#this blog being one of them#god my autistic ass hates change so much#WE DON'T NEED KIDS IN THIS FANDOM#nu carnival#nu carnival aster#nu carnival morvay#nu carnival eiden#nu carnival yakumo#nu carnival edmond#nu carnival olivine#nu carnival quincy#nu carnival kuya#nu carnival garu#nu carnival karu#nu carnival blade#nu carnival dante#nu carnival rei#nukani
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I haven't posted in a long time.
My anxiety and depression have backslid a lot in the last year. My social anxiety and agoraphobia are particularly out of control.
I have fallen out of producing fandom content, frankly because I have been too afraid to. Fandoms have become a lot more charged than they were when I was younger. I keep trying to get into new fandoms that I hope are less problematic only to stumble across the same patterns, up to and including someone being harassed and told to 'kys' repeatedly over fandom drama to the point of ending their own life.
But being isolated is hard. I haven't stopped making content I just... Stopped sharing it. I don't really know what to do, or if any followers I have here are even still active. I got back into JoJo's and expected most of the discourse to be more 'gay vs not gay' type stuff but some parts are... Really, *really* bad. Worse even than KH. And inconsistent! Censoring myself to fit some fear mongering anti's agenda seems like an anathema, so I just haven't posted anything, even the stuff I have I know isn't problematic.
To me the 'right' thing to do would be to post anyway and stand up for a censorship free Internet and community, but I'm afraid that, especially right now, I just don't have the resilience.
I guess I'm asking people more in touch with a 2024 Tumblr what they think. If it's even worth it. What tools there are. I've spent half the day blocking hate in a tag and trying not to panic about it. As an actual abuse survivor, seeing some of these accusations fly over such inane things is just... Disheartening. Especially knowing my abusers will never be prosecuted, but I'm getting accused of those crimes by trying to cope through artistic expression.
Also if there is anyone interested in some of the 'problematic' ships I've tagged, please give me a ring. I might try finishing and posting some stuff after all of it will actually make people happy. But after seeing witch hunt posts calling for people to haze or blacklist certain crators? It's just... Really scary.
But I'm so tired of being alone.
#eljin has an existential crisis#giomis#brugio#brupro#fandom discourse didnt use to be this scary#remember when the standard for being upset at fandom behaviour was literally physically assaulting someone with a bucket at a con?#i miss 2012#guess i should add diadop and risodop and risopro#because it seems like even just liking squadra can get you antagonized?#back in my day jodio was just normal shit it wasnt controversial at all what happened with that?#i just like a good mudad au...#were mad at brugio but dont talk about gyjo being a bigger gap like i love gyjo dont cancel it but im also confused at the inconsistency?#everyone should go yt seach 'its okay to not like things'#please just... be kind to each other. im begging you. im so tired.
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you can say what you want now but you decided to start this campaign because she said stardew valley isn’t anti-capitalist. you targeted a trans woman for pedojacketing because she criticized your cozy farms game.
ok let me get this straight.i did not criticize her because she didn't like the ideology in stardew valley. i thought her take on incest shipping was dumb before that, it's why i made this post
i made this before i even saw the stardew valley take. and when i did post a take on it it it didn't use names and censored the names in the post i showed. as for it being a "targeted harassment campaign" my inital post only got like 70 notes before i deleted it and i didn't really expect she'd see it all. it wasn't until i woke up with death threats in my inbox that i realized she found out she saw it.
and i'm not saying i received death threats to try to garner sympathy, death threats are bad obviously, but even people who deserve to be harshly criticized receive death threats, doesn't mean they deserve it, but it doesn't suddenly make other criticism invalid. i'm mentioning said death threats because i genuinely would of not have made any more posts discussing this if i wasn't informed anyone important actually saw it.
i'm not sure how popular txttletale is, she regularly get's posts in the 20k but to be so do i sometimes? although most of my posts about this situation only get like 40 to 200 notes which them being split by positive and negative engagement, while her posts about the situation seem to get around 1k to 3k notes with most of them being positive? so it seems more people generally agree with her than me, which isn't to say that automatically "makes me in the right" or "the underdog" but you can see why i feel the need to defend myself and "double down" right?
like this isn't this first time i've been "harassed at a massive scale" but calling THIS that is admittedly an overstatement considering i've only recieved like 3 death threats and accusations of transmisogyny when i've gone through WAY worse, like when i got harrassed and sent death threats and drawn cp for saying "the arby waifu" is cringe (look that up), or sent deaths threats by radfems for linking an essay written by a trans woman that i thought was a great discussion on gender, or sent death threats for radfems for saying that i thought sex work was alright. oh also i got harrassed by pewdiepie fans but does anyone even remember him? so like yeah comparatively this is nothing
the only reason this DOES sting is because i've lost some mutuals over this, not even because "they chose her over me" or other dumb shit like that but because they were just tired of seeing the discourse which fair enough.
and to be honest i don't really think txttletale is like. a bad person or whatever. i'm sure she has been harrassed before, and i do genuinely respect some of her opinions like her more nuanced takes on ai or sex work or whatever. to be honest i wouldn't have made a big deal about the stardew valley take if it wasn't for that one incest post which is what i'm stuck on because they're are a ton of bloggers on here that i otherwise respect who occasional endorse or parrot beliefs i think suck because it doesn't have a big glowing "pedophilia is bad" button on it. i don't hate the take because SHE agreed with it, i think the take is bad no matter who it's coming from. i hate this idea that "age play" or "incest shipping" exist in a bubble because it doesn't, i do genuinely know people who were hurt by it, and it's just really sad seeing people i otherwise respect who seem to care about homophobia or transphobia or racism in media kind of just dismiss concerns of post's that could be potentially endorsing shitty beliefs. it's tiring.
so uh. yeah i guess that's it? any more questions?
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Hello Everyone!
My name is Jo, and i am the sole curator of this blog. This post will serve as both an introduction to me, as well as clearing up my intentions with this blog.
Let Us Begin!
So, to start, I should introduce myself.
As stated before, I am Jo! I use he/him pronouns. I identify as a binary gnc gay transgender man, though my identity itself is more complex than that(that isn't anyone's business, though.). My main account is @radspeon
I have always been interested in BL(boys love) content(also known as yaoi, though that is a more outdated term now.) to a certain extent. Recently, however, my interest in it has grown exponentially, and I decided to create a separate sideblog to post exclusively BL/yaoi-related content.
Intentions, Disclaimers, Et Cetera.
This blog will definitely showcase some problematic content, as most yaoi is, and I would like to make it clear that I don't support any unsavory themes that may appear in the media I talk about here. I am not a proshipper, nor am I an antishipper. I recognize that censoring art is bad, even if it is unsavory, while also recognizing that things like pornography depicting child characters(drawn, written, or otherwise) or drawing artworks of two siblings in a romantic relationship is bad. I also believe that declaring yourself to be affiliated with either side is a kind of pathetic thing to do.
I acknowledge the poor quality of the representation in most classic yaoi series, and loudly laugh at it. This blog isn't meant to be serious, as the way I'm writing this may mislead you to believe. My URL is from a joke post, for god sake lol. This is why I have employed the #good rep and #bad rep tagging system, because I know how terrible many of these anime's/manga's are about representation. I'm a gay man myself, I like to believe that I can recognize good and bad representation, though I highly encourage other gay men to correct me if I ever miss things that count as bad/good representation in a given media.
Do not bring "who can participate in consuming/creating mlm media" discourse here.
I mean it, don't. I understand that you think you have a shiny new point to bring up about the conversation that you'd adore to talk about, but I'm telling you that,
No, you don't.
Even if you did, I do not want to hear it.
This blog is for everyone to enjoy, MLM media is for everyone to enjoy, we should not try to limit the consumption and creation of MLM media to just gay men. It's ridiculous to try to restrict artists to your standards of the "correct creator."
Oh, and while we're on what I believe,
mspec lesbians and gays are valid, gnc trans people are valid, xenogenders are valid, neopronouns are valid, he/him lesbians and she/her gays are valid, non-dysphoric trans people are valid, people who use outdated terms to explain their own nuanced identity are valid, etc. etc. etc.
If you want to argue about this, do not be surprised when I block you.
TERFS, transmeds, exclusionists, all of you, get lost.
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IYO, any red flags/deal breakers one should look out for when following larrie blogs here? already blocked the GIF making ones (cuz they're mostly blouies) and the big ones, who loves the drama.
hmmm... I mean there are loads of blogs on here that seem like cool people but who I don't follow cause they post lots of stuff that isn't what I personally want to have to scroll through, be it full on deal breakers or just stuff that's uninteresting to me and untagged- like there's just a whole spectrum going from eh not for me to holy shit I wish I could fucking delete that blog. But you're asking about the far end of that spectrum, so... um I guess for me: people who state their theories as facts/ don't seem to understand the difference between theories and fact. People who want to delete other peoples' blogs tbh, like who think that if someone disagrees with their theory they need to be Dealt With and Schooled, so I guess I wouldn't actually delete anyone's blogs. I just don't like cops be it the real kind or just people acting like them, like thinking some fanfic is Bad and needs to be censored, or believing that not thinking Louis and Harry are married is punishable, or insisting that their lyric analysis is CORRECT and the only possible one, or who think taking a job pretending to be someone's partner publicly is morally Wrong and they are Bad People. IDK though, I think I have distanced myself so far from the really nasty shit that I'm forgetting some bigger bad flags maybe? in any event my personal shit under the cut why not
My personal NOs are: if someone is super negative and hateful all the time, be it about someone in the 1D-sphere or other segments of fandom (I worry that I'm one of these kinds of blogs to someone but I do try not to be), or who publish anti anons spewing their gross hate and nasty theories, even if its to make fun of them: hate just depresses me, even directed at targets I also dislike. It truly lowers my mood in a way that is hard for me to shake. Likewise if someone's blog is all asks or posts with the worst takes I've ever seen, regardless of how thoughtful their counterpoints, it's just not my thing. You can be hilarious or very correct in replying, but I already had to read that shit and it genuinely depresses me to be reminded how terrible people (and their takes) can be. It's the same reason I blacklist Tr*mp and shit like that you know? So with fandom, like the news, I'll go looking sometimes to see what's being said or to track down something I see people referencing but I want to be able to scroll without being blindsided by it. But maybe what ruins your day is something different? I have pals who find anti trolls hilarious and seek them out to see what they're up to, but flat out blacklist totally different stuff that I might roll my eyes at but not really be bothered by. But also my YESes! When I come on here I know what I wanna see: 1) a bunch of pics of Louis cause he makes me happy 2) some funny takes and memes 3) the people I follow having funny or insightful commentary on new pics or whatever in their tags or telling me some bts type info, I love knowing all the details and gossip 4) intellectually stimulating but emotionally low stakes discourse that doesn't involve anyone spewing hate at anyone else 5) enough UA type content to know what everyone is up to 6) enough clues about what's going on with the fandom or in the non-UA type updates (like, what did people figure out from that official post) to figure out if I wanna go find the drama and roll my eyes or comment. So that's what I look for!
#I would be worried about letting antis know hate bothers me#but they pretty obviously dont actually read my blog so lol#anyway stuff in my inbox doesn't the same way#I'm braced for it#but when I'm scrolling my dash I don't expect that shit#thrilling news everyone I FINALLY REMEMBERED THE READMORE FUNCTION EXISTS#will try to use more now#if your dealbreaker is people who write loooong posts#you dont have to quit me just yet!#maybe#maybe this will just encourage me#oh hot tip for newbies based on the ask- dont block people unless youre sure cause possibly one day#you will have been in this stupid fandom for like years all of a sudden#and will be like ugh maybe they're not THAT Bad actually but I blocked them so they blocked me back and now I can never ever reblog#anything they post#forever 😂#even if its interesting
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Long post ahead and I'm bad at summarising so you either read the full thing or you scroll past. This is about the pro-shipper vs anti discourse so be warned there will be a lot of heavy themes being talked about.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think neither pro-shippers nor antis are completely right. Like they both have good points but they see the world in such a black and white way they don't realise they're both doing more harm than good. I don't think everyone can be put into one of two boxes when it comes to such a complex issue as what is and isn't problematic and what kind of problematic content should he allowed or not. Different opinions exist outside of that binary, and you guys accusing everyone who disagrees on ONE THING with you of being part of the opposing group and then getting mad when they don't act like that group is counterproductive at best and dangerous at worst. And I'm not talking about all of you, some of you might be chill, I'm talking about the ones who actively go out of their way to harass others.
Now before you all bring out your torches, please let me explain, then you can bring out your torches if you still disagree I guess.
I think we should all have the freedom to post whatever we want on the Internet as long as it's not harming anyone irl. Now, does that mean that a piece of art potentially traumatising a child or triggering a mentally ill person should be always censored? No, I'm not saying that. Adults should have a place for themselves and parents are the ones responsible for keeping children out of those spaces, while still making it obvious that space is not for children in order to make them aware of that.
For example, if adult themes are portrayed in a movie, but that movie clearly states that it's for people ages 18+, then it's not the director's fault if a child decides to watch it and their parents don't pay them enough attention to make sure what they're watching is appropriate for their age. Same goes for online content. If you clearly state in tags and trigger warnings that your work has certain content that might not be suited for certain audiences, or you post it in a place where those audiences won't go to. Then it's the fault of that person or the one responsible of taking care of them if they're actively trying to view that content even after they were told that content isn't for them.
It's like someone who doesn't like furries downloading a furry p*rn app that clearly states that's what it is and then complaining about how it contains furry p*rn, or a child entering a p*rn site and then clicking on the "yes, I'm older than 18" button and then someone blaming the site for the child viewing it when they couldn't possibly know that child would go out of their way to see something that wasn't intended for them and their parents were nowhere to be seen. See what I mean?
People should also have the freedom to depict bad things happening in their art without everyone taking it out of context and thinking they support those bad things that happen in their art, while still being criticised if what they depicted is actually harming that community by spreading misinformation, and educate them if they are misinformed themselves. An abusive situation being in a show doesn't mean the show supports that kind of behaviour unless the show frames it as something good and healthy.
For example, the story of the gay guy who was killed at the beginning of IT because he was being attacked by a bunch of assholes was framed as a tragedy and those guys were framed as bigoted criminals who were even aided by the evil cosmic clown who tortured and murdered children. You can't take that out of context and say Stephen King supports hate crimes and child murder because it's framed in a way that's meant to make you feel scared and uncomfortable because that's what horror media is SUPPOSED to do.
Still, you should be held accountable if your piece of media actually harms others. Like JK Rowling writing a book reinforcing the stereotype that trans women are men who fetishise women and will r*ape and murder them because how she actively framed that character that way. Criticism can help you grow as a person and sometimes you have to accept that what you made was in poor taste and hurt others. Still, death threats, doxxing, sending your followers to harass someone else and spreading misinformation is still bad and you shouldn't do it no matter how shitty you think that person is. If you do something like that, then you're a shitty person as well and you're just making the person you're criticising want to defend themselves instead of hearing you out. Let's be realistic, who wants to listen to someone's opinion if they're actively attacking you, threatening you and harming you? And why should you listen to someone who's being awful to you? You're not helping anyone by attacking them instead of calmly explaining why what they did was wrong. And if they are the one who is going out of their way to be awful to you specifically, then you're still in your right to distance yourself from them or defend yourself however you can.
Furthermore, I don't think that everything considered "problematic" or "inappropriate" should be held to the same standards. A slur isn't as bad as a physical attack, for example; just as two teenagers of roughly the same age consensually exploring their sexualities shouldn't be the same as an adult forcing a minor to do that with them and it being framed as something acceptable; or someone stealing a phone shouldn't be the same as someone kidnapping someone else, and someone going to a children's site and posting a graphic horror movie there isn't the same as someone posting some vent art they made of their SH injuries with the proper trigger warnings applied.
Plus, it's not the same for a big company or a famous author to paint an abusive relationship in a good light in their content than one person on the Internet shipping enemies because they find their dynamic interesting. Not only are the former professionals who are supposed to know what they're doing and the resources to get information about those topics and advice on how to showcase those issues properly, but they also have a much bigger impact on the masses because of their huge platform.
Jumping to conclusions about someone else with no evidence to support your claims because you took one thing out of context or one person told you something about someone else doesn't help either. It becomes high-school gossip but to a much bigger scale. You can't say someone supports ped*philoa because they ship a 16 year old with an 18 year old just as you can't say someone supports cyber bullying because someone said they don't think a minor should be drawing explicit content and posting it on the Internet for everyone to see.
Besides, no one is perfect, people make mistakes and people also change. Something someone said when they were 14 will obviously not be their opinion once they're 25. I mean, who is the same way they were when they were teenagers once they turn into adults? Who even remembers everything they did back then? And if someone acknowledges that what they did was wrong and apologises, and then they don't do that ever again, then you don't have the right to keep rubbing their past mistakes in their face as if they've done nothing to improve. Imagine you forgetting to do the dishes for a week and then your partner forever being mad at you for that even thought you've been doing the dishes every day for a year now and you've apologised for not doing them back then. Wouldn't you consider that behaviour toxic?
You're all taking things out of context and putting everyone else into boxes while simultaneously putting yourselves in boxes and refusing to hear anyone else's opinion without considering things just aren't so simple.
I won't say go outside and touch grass because I know you can still be unwilling to hear people out even when they're not on the Internet if you're stubborn enough. Even though going out for a walk can he nice and a way to clear your head when you're stressed out and your brain is stuck without finding a solution.
Instead, I will urge you to try and listen to other people's opinions with a more open mind and not jump into conclusions unless you have at least some evidence to back it up, and to stop attacking others just because they disagree with you. If you're gonna go out of your way to criticise someone else, do it in a calm and rational manner if you can. If their content upsets you too much, you can always take a few minutes to process why that is and find what words are best to describe the way you feel. Also the report and block buttons exist and you don't always need to let someone know you're reporting or blocking them and why before you do so, you can just do it. And if you don't like someone, don't follow them just to hate on them, you're just making them more popular anyways. And, most importantly, if you see something that you actually like and enjoy, leave your support for the creator, even if it's just a comment with a heart emogi. I always prefer to avoid saying mean things to others on the Internet when I think about them and instead fucus my energy into boosting things I actually enjoy and making the people who created them smile.
That's all I think. I know a lot of you will disagree, and you have the right to do so, but I would prefer if told me why that is without insulting me and twisting my words into something I never said :3
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Ok I know this post is long and going to trigger some people, I hate dramas as almost everyone in this fandom but I'm honestly exhausted of finding a**holes around and I can't keep pretending nothing happens. I'm a polite person and I don't like to make names and point my finger at people, so let's keep this a general discourse.
So this happened between yesterday evening and this morning, I've posted this photo on my instagram stories this morning.
As I've already mentioned before, there's a bunch of people who hate Veronica Deacon (mind: this is not a simple "dislike her" for personal reasons/vibes, here's literally a movement of hate and canceling) and are adamant in spreading their hate towards her, intoxicating posts where she's mentioned or John's family role is mentioned, canceling her whenever there's a confirmed pic of her ("that's not her! That's *imaginary person never heard about*") mocking people for even liking her, let alone who enjoy John and Veronica together (I've been personally harassed on Facebook by some of these people) behaving very childishly despite their older age (also using the "I'm old so I know better" card to prove their points) and believing in absurd made-up "theories" on Wattpad that twist interviews, real facts and actually try to warp reality mostly with the function of "making Deac*ry real in real life". (Censoring the ships name just to not disturb sane shippers as I had already said once) For them every reliable source, included words by the direct interested, are lies to cover up these relationships. They use songs to "prove facts" when nothing is confirmed, pretending to be woke or smth I don't know really. Some time ago some idiot even told around that Veronica isn't the mother of John's kids, she used to abuse him and other stuff coming out of nowhere, but honestly that's an old discourse that thank the gods has been closed (because honestly even the dumbest people could sniff that it was all made up). ((They also hate Jim Hutton because of the same reasons, if you were asking.)) ((I feel so bad for responsible shippers that have these idiots on their boat, guys get rid of em plss))
This leads me back to this fanfic I found and that line that has been added in a petty way after deleting that comment.
You know I'm the last person who would say "stop writing fanfics about real people", we're a fandom that deals with real people and real or fanmade relationships, that's not remotely the issue here. It's not even the plot that as much basic it is it's quite common and I've read every kind of version of it with basically any ship in this fandom (tho Veronica is the most common one to fall in this trope, followed maybe by Chrissie) and that's kinda okay, I'm not here to judge anyone for that, write what u want, there are lots of well written fics with the same plot.
The issue here is the existence of that statement, "Veronica is a real cold hearted manipulative person". It implies that the author actually believes what they wrote is real. And what they wrote is a Veronica that's and absolute bastard with no reason to be it, she's just evil because yes, gets pregnant on purpose to stay with John, sends him away from Fred and enjoys seeing John being absolutely crushed after he had to leave fred like idk some kind of Scar who enjoys watching Simba running away after Mufasa's death. Because she's evil ok? That should be even ok (not really but you got the point???) if the author wrote that just as a dramatic angsty story with a boring villain, but the addition of that line is the issue here, the author feels like that woman is seriously like that. I honestly struggle to believe anyone could be so serious about this but yes there are people who are and try to spread their hate like this, towards a person they don't even know and has done nothing against them to "deserve" to be hated.
When I posted that pic in my stories today I had numerous people writing me that they couldn't believe someone would seriously hate Veronica to the point of doing this, that's why I'm making this post. There are lots of ppl who have no idea of this issue of the fandom that's more serious than it seems, it has to be put under the sunlight.
You don't have to love Queen's real relationships if you prefer fanmade ones, but please at least respect them. Respect Queen's wives and husband, they are real people. Respect Queen's real lives even if they made questionable things and mistakes. You can't fix them anyway and you're not entitled to change what happened in the past. Please be aware of the sources you get informations from, use reliable sources and believe them, keep songs as they are: poetry, be aware that what you find/create in fanfictions (and some fanarts) is not real. Respect creators that draw/write ships that aren't your faves.
And please ignore these idiots who claim to ""know the truth"" about Queen's private lives. They feel empowered by their age and by the doubts and misteries around some aspects of Queen's lives and they won't change their minds if you present them facts. Shut them off with an "ok" and ignore them. Thanks for reading until now, I hope this has been somehow helpful.
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Signature discussion: large images
Hi FVC! Idk when this will be posted (I'm used to a drama blog with a faster flow woops) but I've been inspired by the signature talk to go and grab some clear examples of what used to bother me back when I played.
I played a ton of virtual pet (FR, Aywas) and avatar games (mainly GaiaOnline), where these elements would be similarly annoying to see. I also don't play FV often so I don't have any sour feelings to anyone in particular. Just posting examples here without editing signature/post content, cutting out the username sidebar.
I don't intend to attack anyone here, just point out examples. If you think I am or attack this post/me, I'll consider it a donation to the salt gods :)
So onto the sigs!
For reference, I am on a smartphone. I'm not sure if people use Stylish or are between mobile/desktop, but I used to be one of those users that go vanilla FV between different devices.
From my phone, it's easy to see giant blocky signatures with multiple images. Sometimes these signatures would be 5x bigger than a one liner post (or most post content):





https://i.imgur.com/El4VPbT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pr8liOz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9UCmPgR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YnnDmOn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KV8HdOP.jpg
Sometimes, all a signature is, is one giant block image that still manages to be bigger than the actual post.


https://i.imgur.com/EotMZ6m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Wz3yGlN.jpg
And even if the image isn't solely horizontal-spanning, a vertically large image still stretches a signature to be quite giant.


https://i.imgur.com/4hBeh74.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/23dp6Bn.jpg
While I do love customization and self expression, these signatures are giant, clunky, and remind me of the MySpace days when everyone's page was 90% blocks of animated decoration and glitter and 10% legible content. When a thread is mostly signature and not actual content, it feels cluttered. And while I can block these images or turn off signatures, I do like small, simple sigs. I can submit another set of examples of what are smaller, less cluttersome but equally appealing sigs if anyone was curious.
I'm of the school that signatures should be an accent that doesn't overpower the actual post. To achieve it should be somewhat easy if you adhere to dimension guidelines: GaiaOnline suggests 500x500px maximum (though most users know how to artfully go under that), and FlightRising usually goes for 500x100px, leading to skinny horizontal banners.
This can even be achieved by resizing some of those images to be smaller, cropped smaller, or formatted in a way that it isn't vertically stretching. I'm not suggesting censoring anyone or their taste in art/gifs/self expression, just that given that the medium they post in is a forum for mostly text-based discussion, and text doesn't tend to take up much screen space compared to large images, a little mindfulness can help make one's posts and thus the overall forum look cleaner.
I hope that this post generates some awareness and discussion whether good or bad! :) I don't expect FV or its users to take kindly to criticism, but I do think that talking about signatures is valid and even fun. Whose signatures do we like or dislike, and why? Is our forum-reading experienced hampered by gigantic signatures or can it be averted enough that it shouldn't be an issue? The opposite of salty discourse is peaceful discussion, and I'm happy to try and post an opener to either.
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1/2 Can I add something to the slur debate? I hate how when you reject a word, people will accuse you of being eg: A terf when I reject the word "Queer" for personal reasons, including that I'm not American/English and I view it as being specific to that history, and it's just not a term I identify with. So do not like it used about me. I do not speak against people who've reclaimed it personally, and if it's their identity I'll use it for them. I just don't like it as a "World wide descriptor"
2/2 for anyone of any LGBTQIA+ identity. It also feels like it often is used in certain contexts, to erase divides in LGBTQIA+ identities, which need to be acknowledged and should be, because the experiences can be so different, not just from cis/het people, but also from within. I constantly have deal with ppl claiming "not using queer is terf behaviour" or have been and seen others be told "It's not a slur, we've reclaimed it" when that isn't how it works, since you can't speak for everyone.
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on the post, I mentioned how "once I had to censor the word schizo in a server, in the comment "I'm a schizo-spectrum person, and it's literally the word for our disorders, so banning all use of it doesn't make sense", and that's fucking ridiculous." and schizo is undoubtedly used as a slur, that doesn't mean you can go "I don't like it, so it's not the group term", as the post says, queer history, queer studies, etc, are very very established terms and fields, and not liking the word isn't going to change that. in that context, it is not a slur, it is not being used as a slur - like I said trying to have "X is a slur and Y is not" boxes where X and Y are specific words just isn't helpful or productive because that isn't how it works - it's not being used as a derogatory term towards LGBT+ people, just like gay isn't a slur when you say "gay people" but it is if you say "those fucking gay weirdos". you can dislike the word, just like you could dislike gay, if that had been used against you (as it has been for lots of us), and you've got every right to not want to be called it and you're not a terf for that, but you can't change established fields and the names for them based on your own comfort with one word. it's also not used to erase divides in any context I've seen - there's a lot of the overlap in issues faced by LGBT+ people, and while sometimes some issues are more often specific to one group, there's a fuck tonne of grey area. there's not really a situation where somebody can't face bigotry that's typically directed at a group they don't belong to - from mistaken identity to unique situations or circumstances, weird stuff happens in the world and there's a lot more overlap than is found by using lazy analysis that wants to put everyone in boxes. any two given bi people could have wildly different experiences from each other, and a bi person might have nearly identical experiences to a gay person, because everyone is an individual - there are trends, yes, but those trends aren't rules. some people find queer easier to say than LGBT+ when you're talking, some people study queer studies, some people have dealt with a lot of people using "LGBTQIABCDEFG alphabet people" type rhetoric and don't like LGBT+ as a result, and it's all just weird out there, and while people can try to be respectful of what is comfortable for you in an interpersonal dialogue, but if the whole world changed language based on what slurs each person wanted to ban then we would quickly run out of words to use at all. you're not a terf for your preferences but there was a whole online psyop pushed almost exclusively by terfs and exclus people in order to demonise ace, aro, trans, enby, etc, people, and that's why people say it's a terfy thing. that's the root of the discourse lately.
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